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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?)" Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost  | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?)" It's a question that makes my teeth gnash! Superficially, he has done stuff that appeals to his core. The evangelical Christians will always follow him for his (apparent) pro life stance, despite the obvious lies, business failures and adulterous relationships he's had. Even as a casual observer Biden, to me, comes across as a honest person who wants to unify Americans, I can't believe his policies are so odious that his personal qualities compared to Trump are completely ignored. | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?)" Micheal Moore did a short video explaining his appeal to the rust belt. (a bit pertinent to the appeal of brexit in the uk as well) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMm5HfxNXY4 The evangelicals were promised a conservative supreme court and repealing Roe v Wade. Mainstream republicans don't fall in love, they fall in line. But he didn't do alone, all it took was efforts of an entire religion, a disinformation campaign from a foreign government, a 24/7 dedicated propaganda network, and a decades-long campaign by the right of anti-intellectualism. | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. " Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate? | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. " Don't get me wrong. I don't think Biden is going to be a great leader. Personally, I think a good chunk of his votes came in simply because he's not Trump. I just think Trump is very good at simple messages about complex issues. That's enough for a lot of people who neither understand or care about the day to day business of politics. | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate?" Depends on how well Biden preforms. If he is more a centralist like he wants to be probably not. But I don't see that happening. This election shook up the house they are worried. Don't think Trump will run. The push is for Dan Crenshaw in vet community 2024. | |||
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"Isnt it ironic how some say they simply didnt believe in "Bidens Message" whereas Trump as we all know is a god fearing man who would not let a lie pass his lips. Has Trumps message about the wall Mexico is paying for or. His record in mismanagement that has seen 200k of his fellow americans die. Of a virus he called a "Democratic hoax". Or how he only hires the best people...Well only crooks and family it seems.As long as he or his company profit of course...Oh and dont mention porn actresses.....Yes plural...how those evangelicals can look in a mirror really does take some amount of self delusion...Yet it is Biden some doubt ??? lol xx" We are not evangelists. What is wrong having a different political views? We care more for our country then the rest of the world. Just like UK people and Brexit. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart." I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways" In what ways are Trump and Corbyn similar? Most intelligent people think Boris and Trump are more similar | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate? Depends on how well Biden preforms. If he is more a centralist like he wants to be probably not. But I don't see that happening. This election shook up the house they are worried. Don't think Trump will run. The push is for Dan Crenshaw in vet community 2024." I read up about this Dan Crenshaw before when you mentioned him. Do you think he needs to modernise some of his political stances on say women's rights, or on science? He's more progressive on environmental issues and LGBT rights than the "old fashioned" republicans like Trump and Pence. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways" Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites. | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate? Depends on how well Biden preforms. If he is more a centralist like he wants to be probably not. But I don't see that happening. This election shook up the house they are worried. Don't think Trump will run. The push is for Dan Crenshaw in vet community 2024. I read up about this Dan Crenshaw before when you mentioned him. Do you think he needs to modernise some of his political stances on say women's rights, or on science? He's more progressive on environmental issues and LGBT rights than the "old fashioned" republicans like Trump and Pence. " If he is more twords women's rights he would be a great candidate. | |||
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"Isnt it ironic how some say they simply didnt believe in "Bidens Message" whereas Trump as we all know is a god fearing man who would not let a lie pass his lips. Has Trumps message about the wall Mexico is paying for or. His record in mismanagement that has seen 200k of his fellow americans die. Of a virus he called a "Democratic hoax". Or how he only hires the best people...Well only crooks and family it seems.As long as he or his company profit of course...Oh and dont mention porn actresses.....Yes plural...how those evangelicals can look in a mirror really does take some amount of self delusion...Yet it is Biden some doubt ??? lol xx We are not evangelists. What is wrong having a different political views? We care more for our country then the rest of the world. Just like UK people and Brexit." I don't agree with your politics but I respect the way you post with out resorting to nonsense and insults. | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate?" The Republicans are backed into a corner because if Trump demands a free pass to run they have to give it to him as if he peeled off to be an independent he takes at least 30 million Republican voters thus they are out of office for years. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways" This should be good. How were corbyn and trump alike? | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate? The Republicans are backed into a corner because if Trump demands a free pass to run they have to give it to him as if he peeled off to be an independent he takes at least 30 million Republican voters thus they are out of office for years." Same for Democrats they got to lean more centered. The house proved that point. | |||
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"It's simple not very complex. We did not believe in Biden. Everyone has their own personal beliefs and political views. We didn't like Bidens message to the masses. Would you vote for trump if he decided to run for 2024 election or do you think he republicans should move on to another candidate? Depends on how well Biden preforms. If he is more a centralist like he wants to be probably not. But I don't see that happening. This election shook up the house they are worried. Don't think Trump will run. The push is for Dan Crenshaw in vet community 2024. I read up about this Dan Crenshaw before when you mentioned him. Do you think he needs to modernise some of his political stances on say women's rights, or on science? He's more progressive on environmental issues and LGBT rights than the "old fashioned" republicans like Trump and Pence. If he is more twords women's rights he would be a great candidate." I'll keep an eye on him over the next four years. Not sure he's entirely my cup of tea. But he'll be interesting to follow. | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost "But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick... | |||
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"We can scoff all we like. But truthfully, as incompetent he is at everything else. He speaks in very simple language, that people who are interested in politics can get behind. He's very effective at communicating to a wide audience of people who want simple answers to complex problems. The best example is when he was out of hospital after his covid thing. He stood on the Whitehouse lawn and talked about being blessed by God and it being a sign that he needs to do xyz blah blah. The content of what he's saying isn't even that relevant to this argument. You can find this monologue on YouTube. Anyway, that's my opinion." Spot on | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick..."Yeah, he has lost, it’s over, Trump is just being a bad loser, | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick..."Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too. | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it" Court proceedings in the US are reported. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites." I don't even want to hear an example. Probably be as silly as the initial statement.  | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites." They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent " That sounds more like Boris, do you think their policies are similar? | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it" The States are also saying they have no evidence of voter fraud, even Trumps lawyers arguing his case in court are saying they have no evidence of voter fraud. If a lawyer lies in court, then his licence is on the line. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent " Yep. I agree with the other poster who said we shouldn't have asked. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent Yep. I agree with the other poster who said we shouldn't have asked. " Told you! | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too."Lawsuits and recounts won't make a difference. Trump can't litigate his way out of this. | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it" He's brought this in front of, numerous judges. All of which have thrown out the cases for not having any evidence. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/11/trump-lawyers-suffer-embarrassing-rebukes-judges-over-voter-fraud-claims/ | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent Yep. I agree with the other poster who said we shouldn't have asked. Told you! "Lesson learned!  | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it Court proceedings in the US are reported." Yes of course but when building a case you don't go to the media first and then the court. If the court decides there's a case to answer then It's reported on. Still early days I suspect but if the limited reporting thus far is to be believed then there's a good/bad chance(whichever way you look at it)that there could be recounting and investigation into vote 'jiggery-pokery'.... If it flips to trump....expect civil war 2.0 to kick off. Just my opinion....don't have a dog in the fight | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent " Dont all politicians try to appeal to the masses? Trump doesn't have a dogma..he will say whatever he wants to stay in power. You realise there were 2 coups against corbyn and he never volleyed anyone of the party who conspired against him. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent Dont all politicians try to appeal to the masses? Trump doesn't have a dogma..he will say whatever he wants to stay in power. You realise there were 2 coups against corbyn and he never volleyed anyone of the party who conspired against him." Yes he did you are as biased as a Trump supporter you like dictators never mind | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it Court proceedings in the US are reported. Yes of course but when building a case you don't go to the media first and then the court. If the court decides there's a case to answer then It's reported on. " The proceedings are reported on, irrespective of the merits of the case, especially where a sitting president is contesting an election result and the significant public interest. So far 10 cases brought before a judge by Trump's lawyers have been dismissed as being without substance. Google Jonathan Goldstein's embarrassment. | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it Court proceedings in the US are reported. Yes of course but when building a case you don't go to the media first and then the court. If the court decides there's a case to answer then It's reported on. Still early days I suspect but if the limited reporting thus far is to be believed then there's a good/bad chance(whichever way you look at it)that there could be recounting and investigation into vote 'jiggery-pokery'.... If it flips to trump....expect civil war 2.0 to kick off. Just my opinion....don't have a dog in the fight" It won’t though, he has 17-0 success rate in trying to precede in court cases, 6 since the election | |||
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" Yes of course but when building a case you don't go to the media first and then the court." Ps on reflection, this is exactly what Trump would do! | |||
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"Media are saying 'no evidence' etc but in court you don't bring evidence to the media ...you bring it to the judge. Therefore no reporting on it Court proceedings in the US are reported. Yes of course but when building a case you don't go to the media first and then the court. If the court decides there's a case to answer then It's reported on. Still early days I suspect but if the limited reporting thus far is to be believed then there's a good/bad chance(whichever way you look at it)that there could be recounting and investigation into vote 'jiggery-pokery'.... If it flips to trump....expect civil war 2.0 to kick off. Just my opinion....don't have a dog in the fight It won’t though, he has 17-0 success rate in trying to precede in court cases, 6 since the election " For the sake of America I hope that's the case....and no I'm not a fan of O'biden either...war mongering, bank bailout bag of cocks that he is... | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too."Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt.. This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate.. | |||
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"Its really hard to say if you are not American I'm personally baffled why anyone would vote for the likes of that odious runt Farage,but they position themselves as not part of the political elite. Simpletons therefore think they have their interests at heart.I am baffled how anyone could vote for Corbyn and follow him he was no different to Trump in many ways Such a bizarre statement. Can you give an example of how Trump and Corbyn were alike? They're politically and personality wise, polar opposites.They both tried to appeal to the masses with big outdoor propaganda meets. They both do not follow political convention. Both base policies on dogma. Both think they are allways right and attack people who disagree with them within there own parties. Both never admit to being wrong. I could no doubt go on a lot more but hopefully get the jist of what I am saying.Thinking right/left wing is not relevent Dont all politicians try to appeal to the masses? Trump doesn't have a dogma..he will say whatever he wants to stay in power. You realise there were 2 coups against corbyn and he never volleyed anyone of the party who conspired against him.Yes he did you are as biased as a Trump supporter you like dictators never mind" In English? | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate.."Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate..
Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time "He is wrong but in order to protect democracy. Why have that what if if he is right.Cant have suspicions in every election. Media should wait until all votes are tallied. Not treat it as a circus. For democracy sake let it proceed. Hence why the GSA has not given approval yet. | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate..
Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time
He is wrong but in order to protect democracy. Why have that what if if he is right.Cant have suspicions in every election. Media should wait until all votes are tallied. Not treat it as a circus. For democracy sake let it proceed. Hence why the GSA has not given approval yet. "Of course, but what if it turns out he never had any evidence? He should be rightly criticised and prevented from ever running for election again as he was obviously trying to prevent democracy, | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate..
Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time
He is wrong but in order to protect democracy. Why have that what if if he is right.Cant have suspicions in every election. Media should wait until all votes are tallied. Not treat it as a circus. For democracy sake let it proceed. Hence why the GSA has not given approval yet.
Of course, but what if it turns out he never had any evidence? He should be rightly criticised and prevented from ever running for election again as he was obviously trying to prevent democracy,"2000 election set the precedent for this. | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate..
Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time
He is wrong but in order to protect democracy. Why have that what if if he is right.Cant have suspicions in every election. Media should wait until all votes are tallied. Not treat it as a circus. For democracy sake let it proceed. Hence why the GSA has not given approval yet. "It's been the way in your elections for decades that the networks call states etc and the president elect, bit of a stretch to be questioning that now when every Democrat and Republican President has been happy to go with that till now.. Also the head of the GSA is a political appointee by trump, if course she's not yet done so.. All this dies quite frankly is shine a not so pleasant light upon the Republicans and Trump and the country.. | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate..
Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time
He is wrong but in order to protect democracy. Why have that what if if he is right.Cant have suspicions in every election. Media should wait until all votes are tallied. Not treat it as a circus. For democracy sake let it proceed. Hence why the GSA has not given approval yet.
It's been the way in your elections for decades that the networks call states etc and the president elect, bit of a stretch to be questioning that now when every Democrat and Republican President has been happy to go with that till now..
Also the head of the GSA is a political appointee by trump, if course she's not yet done so..
All this dies quite frankly is shine a not so pleasant light upon the Republicans and Trump and the country.."How else you going to appease 70 million people ? To protect democracy in our opinion Trump lost. That what if factor remains. How you going to tell 70 million people that it is ok. When the 2000 election proved otherwise? Like I stated before hubby and I vets we don't want to see our country torn apart. When there is other avenues to look at. Worst is he was right and what if he is then what ? | |||
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"What was it about Trump that drew so many to vote for him? Is it because he just says it like it isn't? (Joking aside, even when losing hugely he did get a lot of votes. Why?) Not sure, I am sure a Trump fan will eloquently explain their reasons, it is all irrelevant though, because he still lost
But has he actually lost? I know the media called it at the weekend but I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive fly in the biden ointment if the swing states start flipping. I won't even pretend to know how US politics works but I think the electoral college has to call it in order for it to stick...
Lawsuits where filed . Georgia is doing a recount. Probably Pennsylvania too.
Trump and his advisors know they have lost, lead for Biden is in excess of 45 thousand in Pennsylvania and that won't alter massively I doubt..
This is about bolstering the vote in Georgia for the Senate..
Exactly, Georgia would have been a recount regardless because it was so close, Trump is just stalling for time
He is wrong but in order to protect democracy. Why have that what if if he is right.Cant have suspicions in every election. Media should wait until all votes are tallied. Not treat it as a circus. For democracy sake let it proceed. Hence why the GSA has not given approval yet.
It's been the way in your elections for decades that the networks call states etc and the president elect, bit of a stretch to be questioning that now when every Democrat and Republican President has been happy to go with that till now..
Also the head of the GSA is a political appointee by trump, if course she's not yet done so..
All this dies quite frankly is shine a not so pleasant light upon the Republicans and Trump and the country..
How else you going to appease 70 million people ? To protect democracy in our opinion Trump lost. That what if factor remains. How you going to tell 70 million people that it is ok. When the 2000 election proved otherwise? Like I stated before hubby and I vets we don't want to see our country torn apart. When there is other avenues to look at. Worst is he was right and what if he is then what ? "The what if is all conjecture, and as the court cases are progressing are being shown to be baseless.. It's grossly wrong to tell people a load of conspiracy theories in some sort of game, it's not about appeasement it's about falsehoods.. 2000 was not comparable in relation to the reasons and the methods by those who are there to govern the country 'for all'.. All they are doing is to further and incite more divisions in order to undermine Biden for when he takes office.. If he was right something of substance would have emerged by now instead you've got lawyers filing suits without anything other than hearsay, it looks shabby.. | |||
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"It's easy to form a opinion of your choice related to the media. But unless you living that opinion how can you judge others ? You are 3000 miles away. Right left centralist. People thrive on what is told to them facts or not." Tbh I formed my opinion of trump based upon my own morality and decency, I thought his lowest moment was when he ranted about John McCain who whilst I would not put myself politics wise in his camp I respect and recognise service and duty to ones country.. That was a vile attack by a person not fit to stand in John McCains shadow.. | |||
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"It's easy to form a opinion of your choice related to the media. But unless you living that opinion how can you judge others ? You are 3000 miles away. Right left centralist. People thrive on what is told to them facts or not. Tbh I formed my opinion of trump based upon my own morality and decency, I thought his lowest moment was when he ranted about John McCain who whilst I would not put myself politics wise in his camp I respect and recognise service and duty to ones country.. That was a vile attack by a person not fit to stand in John McCains shadow.. " That's you opinion isn't democracy great ? | |||
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"It's easy to form a opinion of your choice related to the media. But unless you living that opinion how can you judge others ? You are 3000 miles away. Right left centralist. People thrive on what is told to them facts or not. Tbh I formed my opinion of trump based upon my own morality and decency, I thought his lowest moment was when he ranted about John McCain who whilst I would not put myself politics wise in his camp I respect and recognise service and duty to ones country.. That was a vile attack by a person not fit to stand in John McCains shadow.. That's you opinion isn't democracy great ?" At times.. Certainly better than some of the other options .. | |||
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"It's easy to form a opinion of your choice related to the media. But unless you living that opinion how can you judge others ? You are 3000 miles away. Right left centralist. People thrive on what is told to them facts or not. Tbh I formed my opinion of trump based upon my own morality and decency, I thought his lowest moment was when he ranted about John McCain who whilst I would not put myself politics wise in his camp I respect and recognise service and duty to ones country.. That was a vile attack by a person not fit to stand in John McCains shadow.. That's you opinion isn't democracy great ? At times.. Certainly better than some of the other options .." Least worst alternative, if I remember the quote right. | |||
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"Trump lost. Not by a little. By a lot. Being a pathological liar and a huge narcissist, he couldn't accept that. So he went on a bullshitting spree. This has nothing to do with keeping democracy safe. It's all about the ego and madness of 1 man who just won't admit he lost. There is 1 factor I didn't see mentioned. His court cases are baseless, but he is raising a lot of money from supporters off the back of them. I bet he'll pocket a lot of that money to pay off some of his personal debts." It not about his court cases it is about democracy... He has the right to challenge. Otherwise the system doesn't work. | |||
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"Trump lost. Not by a little. By a lot. Being a pathological liar and a huge narcissist, he couldn't accept that. So he went on a bullshitting spree. This has nothing to do with keeping democracy safe. It's all about the ego and madness of 1 man who just won't admit he lost. There is 1 factor I didn't see mentioned. His court cases are baseless, but he is raising a lot of money from supporters off the back of them. I bet he'll pocket a lot of that money to pay off some of his personal debts. It not about his court cases it is about democracy... He has the right to challenge. Otherwise the system doesn't work." It's really not about democracy. That's just what Trump and his cheerleaders want you to think. | |||
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"Trump lost. Not by a little. By a lot. Being a pathological liar and a huge narcissist, he couldn't accept that. So he went on a bullshitting spree. This has nothing to do with keeping democracy safe. It's all about the ego and madness of 1 man who just won't admit he lost. There is 1 factor I didn't see mentioned. His court cases are baseless, but he is raising a lot of money from supporters off the back of them. I bet he'll pocket a lot of that money to pay off some of his personal debts. It not about his court cases it is about democracy... He has the right to challenge. Otherwise the system doesn't work." How long does it go on, some of the suits have been disparaged by some of the judges.. If it becomes a farce democracy suffers.. | |||
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"Riddle me this. What sort of leader in a democracy demands that votes should stop being counted?" A deluded one, history will not forget Trump and his current behaviour, maybe that is what he wants, infamy | |||
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"Trump's currently tering democracy apart in your country." I admit he lost in our opinion. But like I said how are you going to tell the 69999998 other people without merit ? | |||
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"Trump's currently tering democracy apart in your country. I admit he lost in our opinion. But like I said how are you going to tell the 69999998 other people without merit ?" What am I going to tell who? | |||
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"Trump's currently tering democracy apart in your country. I admit he lost in our opinion. But like I said how are you going to tell the 69999998 other people without merit ?" I think the vast majority of them will have already accepted the result, there will be a smaller number who won't ever accept the result and it's those who he is feeding off.. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases?" You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ?" So when all the court cases are complete. Assuming there is no evidence of fraud. Will Trump then admit defeat? Or will he try to find some other way to cling to power. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ?" Trump's the one who's ranting. Have a look at his twitter feed. You'll see his rants there, frequently accompanied by notes from twitter that basically say he's talking shit. And you already have the truth. Biden won. There was no fraud. Trump's just a pathetic little man who can't admit reality. He'd rather tear your country apart. | |||
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"Trump's currently tering democracy apart in your country. I admit he lost in our opinion. But like I said how are you going to tell the 69999998 other people without merit ? I think the vast majority of them will have already accepted the result, there will be a smaller number who won't ever accept the result and it's those who he is feeding off.. " Exactly now your statement makes sense. You forget the majority of Republicans are armed to the teeth. Us normal Republicans don't want see something set off because we didn't follow all avenues. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ?" Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? | |||
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"Trump's currently tering democracy apart in your country. I admit he lost in our opinion. But like I said how are you going to tell the 69999998 other people without merit ? I think the vast majority of them will have already accepted the result, there will be a smaller number who won't ever accept the result and it's those who he is feeding off.. Exactly now your statement makes sense. You forget the majority of Republicans are armed to the teeth. Us normal Republicans don't want see something set off because we didn't follow all avenues. " Again I think the majority will look at the worst case scenario and just get on with life, who know what those on the extreme will do and how that's responded to.. Bed for me, nice chatting.. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? " No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative?" No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t " So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ?" Trump is possibly leading you on the path to civil war with this whole situation. All he had to do was admit he lost and commit to a peaceful transfer of power. Sadly, he did not do this. | |||
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"I am being honest here from my point of view. This is a powder keg. All avenues have to be explored. It is trying times for sure." And Trump is standing over the keg with a match. | |||
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"I am being honest here from my point of view. This is a powder keg. All avenues have to be explored. It is trying times for sure." So is this the new norm? Candidate loses the election, they scream fraud, provide no evidence then try to stop votes being counted and refuse to concede, he is making America a laughing stock | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ?" There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police " Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly." And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out" Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue." So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked " Exactly | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly " I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed " And the Democrats didn't invite violence by not allowing federal troops in Portland and Seattle ? Remember CHOP? Democratic governor and mayor's. But that is totally ok in your eyes and why is that ? | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed And the Democrats didn't invite violence by not allowing federal troops in Portland and Seattle ? Remember CHOP? Democratic governor and mayor's. But that is totally ok in your eyes and why is that ?" No , they are both despicable , your country is a sham | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed And the Democrats didn't invite violence by not allowing federal troops in Portland and Seattle ? Remember CHOP? Democratic governor and mayor's. But that is totally ok in your eyes and why is that ?" Btw, 2 wrongs don’t make a right, | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed And the Democrats didn't invite violence by not allowing federal troops in Portland and Seattle ? Remember CHOP? Democratic governor and mayor's. But that is totally ok in your eyes and why is that ? Btw, 2 wrongs don’t make a right," Depends on who is right and who is wrong. Hence what we stated if he wrong he is wrong. You can't deny 70 million people that until proven otherwise. That is the quagmire of the state of affairs atm. Justice or violence I want the former not the latter. | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed And the Democrats didn't invite violence by not allowing federal troops in Portland and Seattle ? Remember CHOP? Democratic governor and mayor's. But that is totally ok in your eyes and why is that ? Btw, 2 wrongs don’t make a right, Depends on who is right and who is wrong. Hence what we stated if he wrong he is wrong. You can't deny 70 million people that until proven otherwise. That is the quagmire of the state of affairs atm. Justice or violence I want the former not the latter. " Imagine living in a country that allows anyone to have a gun and thinks rioting is ok because the other side do it . Your not very civilised, it’s 2020 | |||
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"And, yes as hinted at above, what sort of leader drags the reputation of the country and the office of the president through the mud by slinging baseless allegations, undermining democracy and bringing loads of spurious court cases? You can rant all you want but in the end run we will have the facts now won't we ? Let’s pretend that Trump has no evidence, all his attempts are thrown out of court, do you still support his right to stop democracy ? No I don't but for the sake of democracy don't you think it's if he wants to challenge and the rest of his supporters support that challenge right or wrong it's is worth the alternative? No, because every time someone losses an election they can cry foul and without any evidence try and stop democracy. If Trump provides credible evidence then he has every right to go to the courts, if he hasn’t he doesn’t So civil war we be a better alternative to you ? There will be no civil war, there is a very small minority of Trump fanatics who would be prepared to fight physically for him, most are all talk. They would shit themselves when confronted with Us Army and police Lol are you blind are you here are you seeing the discord on the vets pages. They are willing to sacrifice what they believe in for the greater good. Do you see riots atm ? What if Trump won ? You think if the left would stand down ? No we seen war it is ugly if this avenue is not approched this can get ugly. And? They are all talk, hiding behind their guns, the right wing nutters always crap themselves when their bullying tactics don’t work. Send in the army and they will sort them out Who is president atm ? Like he will send troops to quell that violence. Like the democratic governors didn't want federal help .You sir have no clue. So he will let cities burn? People get killed? No wonder your country is fucked Exactly I know the UK has its problems and a basket case of a government but compared to you we are civilised , you have a president who can’t except defeat and is trying to incite violence to get his own way? And you have the Republicans stand back and letting him do it? They should be ashamed And the Democrats didn't invite violence by not allowing federal troops in Portland and Seattle ? Remember CHOP? Democratic governor and mayor's. But that is totally ok in your eyes and why is that ? Btw, 2 wrongs don’t make a right, Depends on who is right and who is wrong. Hence what we stated if he wrong he is wrong. You can't deny 70 million people that until proven otherwise. That is the quagmire of the state of affairs atm. Justice or violence I want the former not the latter. Imagine living in a country that allows anyone to have a gun and thinks rioting is ok because the other side do it . Your not very civilised, it’s 2020 " We do and now you see which side rioted and which side is currently holding the peace. Scary thought isn't it ? | |||
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"Trump wants to maintain a strong military, economy and infrastructure. That’s what makes him appealing to me. He doesn’t want chaos and indifference amongst Americans, and his values aren’t for sale to anyone despite the number of Molotov cocktails they throw. I can’t think of another individual who has had to deal with so much hatred and I think it’s ridiculous. The fact that it trickles down so much that it’s become easy for people to call those like us who like him “simple minded” shows just how nasty politics are. Generalizations are just that, but it wouldn’t be fair to call every Biden supporter names because then it just gets ugly. Maybe you should ask why other than the false promise of free stuff, why Biden got so many votes. Two things get Democrats elected, the promise of free shit and the threats that republicans will take away free shit previously given. I feel some of President Trumps greatest accomplishments aren’t recognized at all by those who hate him so much, simply because they refuse to acknowledge he could possibly do anything good. I can’t understand why the thought of controlling a border is such a bad thing? I would think Europeans would understand that desire more than anyone. Or why isn’t the gesture of personally meeting with certain leaders considered the valiant effort that it actually is? Is it better to give a nuclear power and global threat billions of dollars to be friendly with them, or actually sit down at the table with them and attempt to develop a rapport? If I recall the term peace in the Middle East has sold a shit load of concert tickets over the last forty years, but now someone has done something about it, and there is a positive move towards peace. Isn’t that a good thing, or does everyone just deny that? Would people rather have conflict than peace if his name is involved just because they don’t like him? How messed up is that? Trump may not be good for the UK or their friends to the north, and any of us not from there have no business telling you otherwise, but he is good for America, and the efforts he has made globally are good for America. " Trump is a product of the media which he claims he loathes. He acquired a mass following due to his starring role in a television programme. Despite what you say he's woefully unqualified for the job he does: No military experience History of failures as a businessman. No compelling personal development story (rags to riches tale). No prior experience of managing a state or government department. No interest in galvanising unity between Americans of differing views. Like in any other job where someone is out of their depth it leads to defensiveness (persecution complex), cavalier behaviour (rash statements and policy implementations) and insular thinking (appeal to the core). Any hatred directed at Trump is entirely of his own making, his pompous, self congratulatory behaviour, incessant lies, his hatred of the media/big tech etc, his hatred of anyone who opposes his views. Look how many people who've worked for him and been arrested? How many senior leaders has he sacked and derided? Some of them honest, honourable Americans, where's your concern for them. And finally the utter disgrace of disputing the outcome of an election in the way he has, to any normal person that should set alarm bells ringing about his character. | |||
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"Trump wants to maintain a strong military, economy and infrastructure. That’s what makes him appealing to me. He doesn’t want chaos and indifference amongst Americans, and his values aren’t for sale to anyone despite the number of Molotov cocktails they throw. I can’t think of another individual who has had to deal with so much hatred and I think it’s ridiculous. The fact that it trickles down so much that it’s become easy for people to call those like us who like him “simple minded” shows just how nasty politics are. Generalizations are just that, but it wouldn’t be fair to call every Biden supporter names because then it just gets ugly. Maybe you should ask why other than the false promise of free stuff, why Biden got so many votes. Two things get Democrats elected, the promise of free shit and the threats that republicans will take away free shit previously given. I feel some of President Trumps greatest accomplishments aren’t recognized at all by those who hate him so much, simply because they refuse to acknowledge he could possibly do anything good. I can’t understand why the thought of controlling a border is such a bad thing? I would think Europeans would understand that desire more than anyone. Or why isn’t the gesture of personally meeting with certain leaders considered the valiant effort that it actually is? Is it better to give a nuclear power and global threat billions of dollars to be friendly with them, or actually sit down at the table with them and attempt to develop a rapport? If I recall the term peace in the Middle East has sold a shit load of concert tickets over the last forty years, but now someone has done something about it, and there is a positive move towards peace. Isn’t that a good thing, or does everyone just deny that? Would people rather have conflict than peace if his name is involved just because they don’t like him? How messed up is that? Trump may not be good for the UK or their friends to the north, and any of us not from there have no business telling you otherwise, but he is good for America, and the efforts he has made globally are good for America. " The so called peace in the middle East is a sham, he's only stoking further tension in supporting Israel in further oppression of the Palestinians.. | |||
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"I am being honest here from my point of view. This is a powder keg. All avenues have to be explored. It is trying times for sure." Trump has set the agenda of fear in labelling Biden a socialist, talking about communist methods and policies.. He needs out and the cool heads to get some perspective on this last four years, you might not like Biden and that's fine but your country is being taken to a bad place and it's not good.. | |||
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"I see this slightly differently Trump hooked into the people’s desire for change not realising the machine they detest was behind him anyway. He was a break with the same old same old for people who didn’t look at the detail. He chose the Republican side as that’s his leaning and they saw a candidate who would win votes off the Democrats. He duly delivered the win and everyone was happy. Well republicans were. Remember a lot of his votes would have been from party faithful who maybe hated him but would never vote Democrat. The issues of his leadership then started to become an problem but it was too late he had the power to dictate and the party had to suck it up. Now here’s the problem. A lot of Republicans know he’s a nutter and want him gone. However if he decides to spin off from the regular party in a fit of temper he may take at least a third of the Republican Party supporters with him. If that happens the Republicans won’t be in power for a lot of years. I’m not sure of any legal restrictions regarding political party’s in America so please correct me if it’s not possible . "
They helped to create a monster and yes agree it's what they do now, not sure he himself to will run again but who knows..
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