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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/nov/11/two-tory-mps-take-gambling-jobs-before-review-of-betting-laws

It's also being reported that the investigation into Kendrick has also been surpressed.

The claims expenses scandal was huge but to me this,and the ppi stuff is even worse.

You would think at some point, people who are struggling to survive would see this and say enough is enough.But apathy reigns supreme.

The labour party should be collating all this stuff and bury them with it ,once the pandemic is over but I cant see it.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

"

Personally I'd increase the salary but prohibit them from taking advisory roles.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

"

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking "

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

Personally I'd increase the salary but prohibit them from taking advisory roles."

I'm going to agree with both posters here.

E

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union"

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool

The tradition of unions sponsoring mps was abolished 25 years ago.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"The tradition of unions sponsoring mps was abolished 25 years ago."

Not according to the guardian, they were still handing over the cash to them.in 2002

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

"

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government. "

I’d say, about 4 years

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

I’d say, about 4 years "

Who knows, that's what happens in a democracy, democrats even accept the result,

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"The tradition of unions sponsoring mps was abolished 25 years ago.

Not according to the guardian, they were still handing over the cash to them.in 2002"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/labour-to-end-union-backing-of-mps-1595245.html%3famp

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

Personally I'd increase the salary but prohibit them from taking advisory roles."

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"The tradition of unions sponsoring mps was abolished 25 years ago.

Not according to the guardian, they were still handing over the cash to them.in 2002

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/labour-to-end-union-backing-of-mps-1595245.html%3famp"

Try looking up the guardian report of june 2002

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government. "

Well when you find a report on a labour mp doing as those 2 do..you can post it on here.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

Well when you find a report on a labour mp doing as those 2 do..you can post it on here."

Connor Mcquin was mentioned in the independent and ex labour deputy leader tom Watson took a job with the owner of paddy power, no doubt using his contacts to good affect.

Both sides do it and it's wrong. As usual your hate for the Tories blinds you to anything anyone else does wrong..

Que the deflection or distraction, dont bother I'm off to bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/nov/11/two-tory-mps-take-gambling-jobs-before-review-of-betting-laws

It's also being reported that the investigation into Kendrick has also been surpressed.

The claims expenses scandal was huge but to me this,and the ppi stuff is even worse.

You would think at some point, people who are struggling to survive would see this and say enough is enough.But apathy reigns supreme.

The labour party should be collating all this stuff and bury them with it ,once the pandemic is over but I cant see it."

Starmer was a QC I'd bet a few quid there's plenty of work going on behind the scenes.

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

Well when you find a report on a labour mp doing as those 2 do..you can post it on here.

Connor Mcquin was mentioned in the independent and ex labour deputy leader tom Watson took a job with the owner of paddy power, no doubt using his contacts to good affect.

Both sides do it and it's wrong. As usual your hate for the Tories blinds you to anything anyone else does wrong..

Que the deflection or distraction, dont bother I'm off to bed."

The link I posted was about 3 tories.

The ppi is coming from the government.

I'm not saying no labour mp has ever took on such a role but why would a company hire a labour mp as an adviser when he or she will have very little influence?

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

You asked for an example I gave you some, why firms want "advisors" is their business and no doubt they think the cash spent is worth it.

It goes on everywhere and in other countries too

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

Well when you find a report on a labour mp doing as those 2 do..you can post it on here.

Connor Mcquin was mentioned in the independent and ex labour deputy leader tom Watson took a job with the owner of paddy power, no doubt using his contacts to good affect.

Both sides do it and it's wrong. As usual your hate for the Tories blinds you to anything anyone else does wrong..

Que the deflection or distraction, dont bother I'm off to bed.

The link I posted was about 3 tories.

The ppi is coming from the government.

I'm not saying no labour mp has ever took on such a role but why would a company hire a labour mp as an adviser when he or she will have very little influence?"

The poster makes a good point.

If you're genuinely against these actions, you must be against them from all party's, surely?

And if you are, why only post things related to the Conservative party?

You're a great advocate of fair play in your posts which is admirable. Sometimes you appear blind in one eye though.

I genuinely enjoy reading your contributions, thank you.

E

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By *ionelhutz OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

Well when you find a report on a labour mp doing as those 2 do..you can post it on here.

Connor Mcquin was mentioned in the independent and ex labour deputy leader tom Watson took a job with the owner of paddy power, no doubt using his contacts to good affect.

Both sides do it and it's wrong. As usual your hate for the Tories blinds you to anything anyone else does wrong..

Que the deflection or distraction, dont bother I'm off to bed.

The link I posted was about 3 tories.

The ppi is coming from the government.

I'm not saying no labour mp has ever took on such a role but why would a company hire a labour mp as an adviser when he or she will have very little influence?

The poster makes a good point.

If you're genuinely against these actions, you must be against them from all party's, surely?

And if you are, why only post things related to the Conservative party?

You're a great advocate of fair play in your posts which is admirable. Sometimes you appear blind in one eye though.

I genuinely enjoy reading your contributions, thank you.

E

"

I said above mps should not be allowed to take on advisory posts with companies where they company can benefit.

This should apply to all parties.

If labour were in power now ,I'd genuinely say the same thing.

However it's the gmnt who are giving multi million pound contracts to their friend.

It's the likes if Chrisopher grayling getting paid grannds for a few hours week.

Saying "well everyone does it'is both factually incorrect and part of the problem.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

None of them should be able to earn a 2nd wage. All of my jobs have specifically denied this. Neither should they be able to work in a lobbying capacity for at leadt 2 years after they stop being MPs. They are shocking

We arent the only country that allows this I expect the excuse is it's better to have it out in the open.

Dont know if it still happens but IIRC some unions "sponsor" mps, think two jags was by the seaman's union

Opposition mps cant decide who gets juicy gmnt contracts.

They can still influence things and who knows when they might be in government.

Well when you find a report on a labour mp doing as those 2 do..you can post it on here.

Connor Mcquin was mentioned in the independent and ex labour deputy leader tom Watson took a job with the owner of paddy power, no doubt using his contacts to good affect.

Both sides do it and it's wrong. As usual your hate for the Tories blinds you to anything anyone else does wrong..

Que the deflection or distraction, dont bother I'm off to bed.

The link I posted was about 3 tories.

The ppi is coming from the government.

I'm not saying no labour mp has ever took on such a role but why would a company hire a labour mp as an adviser when he or she will have very little influence?

The poster makes a good point.

If you're genuinely against these actions, you must be against them from all party's, surely?

And if you are, why only post things related to the Conservative party?

You're a great advocate of fair play in your posts which is admirable. Sometimes you appear blind in one eye though.

I genuinely enjoy reading your contributions, thank you.

E

I said above mps should not be allowed to take on advisory posts with companies where they company can benefit.

This should apply to all parties.

If labour were in power now ,I'd genuinely say the same thing.

However it's the gmnt who are giving multi million pound contracts to their friend.

It's the likes if Chrisopher grayling getting paid grannds for a few hours week.

Saying "well everyone does it'is both factually incorrect and part of the problem."

"Saying "well everyone does it'is both factually incorrect and part of the problem"

Spot on.

Two wrongs etc.

E

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"They won't do it because no doubt there are plenty on their side taking money for 'advising' too.

No MP should be taking on second paid jobs.

Personally I'd increase the salary but prohibit them from taking advisory roles."

I agree with this and add no board memberships etc for at least two years afterwards. Keep them on 3/4 pay if needed. This gravy train with all the nice shoe in roles after Parliament is bad for democracy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If those M.Ps had to choose between

Being politicians or advisers ,

Quite a big lump of them would

resign from parliament ,Jacob he's Smug

earns somewhere close to £90k a month for

his role in his hedge fund .

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"If those M.Ps had to choose between

Being politicians or advisers ,

Quite a big lump of them would

resign from parliament ,Jacob he's Smug

earns somewhere close to £90k a month for

his role in his hedge fund ."

JRM gave up his monthly wage from SCM, when he became a Goverment Minister last year.

He does still retain a 14% shareholding in SCM.

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