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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. " He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad  | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad "Correct and next in line is Gove  | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad "Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election. "Precisely. Boris could shit gold bars and some people would still complain | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election. "Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?  | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Precisely. Boris could shit gold bars and some people would still complain "If he did something for the people of Britain, instead of for himself and his mates. That would be a start. That's probably too radical for a Tory though, so never going to happen. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Precisely. Boris could shit gold bars and some people would still complain "To be honest though the gold bars would only have a Tory ministers wife / husbands name on them.... | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? " Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? " I reckon a baked potato could do a better job than Boris. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? " They wouldn't have handed over £1 billion in contracts to their mates crappy businesses. That would have been an improvement. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They wouldn't have handed over £1 billion in contracts to their mates crappy businesses. That would have been an improvement." | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know "  | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They wouldn't have handed over £1 billion in contracts to their mates crappy businesses. That would have been an improvement. "Great comeback! So much faith has been placed in Johnson and given how his handling of the year's challenges has panned out, it's clearly misplaced. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? " They would have took it serously at the start They would have attended the cobra meetings There would be no ppi scandal Cummings wouldn't have been around We would have had a circuit break as opposed to the full lockdown They would have listened to the science more They would have attended press conferences on time We wouldn't have had a buffoon running the country The NHS would feel more valued | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They would have took it serously at the start They would have attended the cobra meetings There would be no ppi scandal Cummings wouldn't have been around We would have had a circuit break as opposed to the full lockdown They would have listened to the science more They would have attended press conferences on time We wouldn't have had a buffoon running the country The NHS would feel more valued " Tell us what tomorrow nights winning lottery numbers are going to be Lionel, please?  | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They would have took it serously at the start They would have attended the cobra meetings There would be no ppi scandal Cummings wouldn't have been around We would have had a circuit break as opposed to the full lockdown They would have listened to the science more They would have attended press conferences on time We wouldn't have had a buffoon running the country The NHS would feel more valued Tell us what tomorrow nights winning lottery numbers are going to be Lionel, please? "Well ask a silly question. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They would have took it serously at the start They would have attended the cobra meetings There would be no ppi scandal Cummings wouldn't have been around We would have had a circuit break as opposed to the full lockdown They would have listened to the science more They would have attended press conferences on time We wouldn't have had a buffoon running the country The NHS would feel more valued " Love your blind faith in corbyn mate its admirable but thought you was a remainer and he has been anti eu all his career. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They would have took it serously at the start They would have attended the cobra meetings There would be no ppi scandal Cummings wouldn't have been around We would have had a circuit break as opposed to the full lockdown They would have listened to the science more They would have attended press conferences on time We wouldn't have had a buffoon running the country The NHS would feel more valued Love your blind faith in corbyn mate its admirable but thought you was a remainer and he has been anti eu all his career. "Where does Brexit come into that?  | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? They would have took it serously at the start They would have attended the cobra meetings There would be no ppi scandal Cummings wouldn't have been around We would have had a circuit break as opposed to the full lockdown They would have listened to the science more They would have attended press conferences on time We wouldn't have had a buffoon running the country The NHS would feel more valued Love your blind faith in corbyn mate its admirable but thought you was a remainer and he has been anti eu all his career.
Where does Brexit come into that? "Just saying | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad "I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?"Probably to do with those rumours flying around And the fact that is he hopelessly out of his depth | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Probably to do with those rumours flying around
And the fact that is he hopelessly out of his depth "there’s always rumours lol there just cock teasing us | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?"Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions "that’s true of every leader tho doesn’t mean he will go ? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions that’s true of every leader tho doesn’t mean he will go ?"Just look at his history, give me a reason why he would stay? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions that’s true of every leader tho doesn’t mean he will go ?
Just look at his history, give me a reason why he would stay? "because he will never be in a job woth more power than he as now the bigger the legacy he leaves the more money he will earn | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions that’s true of every leader tho doesn’t mean he will go ?
Just look at his history, give me a reason why he would stay? because he will never be in a job woth more power than he as now the bigger the legacy he leaves the more money he will earn "I am sure he loves the power but in reality he is not well paid and he can’t make money elsewhere . If he leaves next year he will be an ex PM, if he leaves in 3 years he will be an ex PM. If it wasn’t for COVID he might have stayed, I just can’t see it happening now. Only my opinion though | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions that’s true of every leader tho doesn’t mean he will go ?
Just look at his history, give me a reason why he would stay? because he will never be in a job woth more power than he as now the bigger the legacy he leaves the more money he will earn "Not sure he's leaving much of a legacy. Just a big mess for others to clean up. I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed on for a couple or years, or walked away. It's just down to whatever is more profitable for him and his associates' businesses. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad I can’t see him going like. Why do you think he will go bud ?
Because he can earn ten times as much for doing half the work elsewhere , Boris is only interested in himself, he has become PM , got ‘Brexit done’ he can now earn millions that’s true of every leader tho doesn’t mean he will go ?
Just look at his history, give me a reason why he would stay? because he will never be in a job woth more power than he as now the bigger the legacy he leaves the more money he will earn
Not sure he's leaving much of a legacy. Just a big mess for others to clean up.
I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed on for a couple or years, or walked away. It's just down to whatever is more profitable for him and his associates' businesses."we all only have opinions we all armchair experts really I think if it’s the money he will earn more if he completes his full term rather than a one yr pm | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election." So you think he is losing support? | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election." With gove at the helm? | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? " i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. " Fair enough, god knows who will replace him, the current crop of ministers are appealing, will the next leader have to be pro Brexit as well? | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. Fair enough, god knows who will replace him, the current crop of ministers are appealing, will the next leader have to be pro Brexit as well? " Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. Fair enough, god knows who will replace him, the current crop of ministers are appealing, will the next leader have to be pro Brexit as well? Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history." Come on, your an intelligent man, you know full well Brexit won’t be ‘done and dusted ‘ at the end of this year. We will obviously have left but the ramifications will last for years, it is certainly not the end of the Brexit story . The next leader of the Tories will still be dealing with Brexit so his opinions on it will be important | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. Fair enough, god knows who will replace him, the current crop of ministers are appealing, will the next leader have to be pro Brexit as well? Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. Come on, your an intelligent man, you know full well Brexit won’t be ‘done and dusted ‘ at the end of this year. We will obviously have left but the ramifications will last for years, it is certainly not the end of the Brexit story . The next leader of the Tories will still be dealing with Brexit so his opinions on it will be important " No mate we will either get a trade deal or mini trade deals or no trade deal we will be out of the transition period the end of the year and move on.Well us that have accepted the result will. | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. Fair enough, god knows who will replace him, the current crop of ministers are appealing, will the next leader have to be pro Brexit as well? Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. Come on, your an intelligent man, you know full well Brexit won’t be ‘done and dusted ‘ at the end of this year. We will obviously have left but the ramifications will last for years, it is certainly not the end of the Brexit story . The next leader of the Tories will still be dealing with Brexit so his opinions on it will be important No mate we will either get a trade deal or mini trade deals or no trade deal we will be out of the transition period the end of the year and move on.Well us that have accepted the result will. "I accepted the result a long time ago, the fact we are leaving isn’t disputed, but if you think Brexit just ends this year then you are being naive . Do you honestly expect all the trade deals and travel arrangements between countries to be finalised at the end of the year? I hope your right but I have my doubts | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history." C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. " Of course not trade deals go on all the time and for years 9well in the eu,s case) but how often do they make the news 24 hours a day? of course stuff will still be going on but there will not be the media speculation every day like there was before covid took over,just like trump in 6 months no one will be talking about it. | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. " If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat " There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality. | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. Of course not trade deals go on all the time and for years 9well in the eu,s case) but how often do they make the news 24 hours a day? of course stuff will still be going on but there will not be the media speculation every day like there was before covid took over,just like trump in 6 months no one will be talking about it." COVID has completely over shadowed any news about Brexit , if the economy doesn’t recover as fast as hoped then someone will take the blame, that won’t be the EU anymore | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality." Their will if it is a shit storm, you seem to be forgetting that Brexit was mainly supported by the older generation and apposed by younger people. That older generation will be dying , the younger generation will be replacing them , it’s the cycle of life, you can’t stop it | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. Of course not trade deals go on all the time and for years 9well in the eu,s case) but how often do they make the news 24 hours a day? of course stuff will still be going on but there will not be the media speculation every day like there was before covid took over,just like trump in 6 months no one will be talking about it. COVID has completely over shadowed any news about Brexit , if the economy doesn’t recover as fast as hoped then someone will take the blame, that won’t be the EU anymore " Thats the challenge theres a whole world out there and up to business to take advantage of it. | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election. So you think he is losing support? i think he only had support to get brexit done other than that i dont think he would have been very popular as he is not everyones cup of tea.Brexit and the fact that he was up against an unelectable corbyn, KS if he can sort the corbynenista,s out in the next few years would be a different matter and im sure the tories know that.So yes he will go before the next election either by choice or being pushed no one is bigger than the party something labour did not understand by sticking with corbyn. " Corbynensita | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality. Their will if it is a shit storm, you seem to be forgetting that Brexit was mainly supported by the older generation and apposed by younger people. That older generation will be dying , the younger generation will be replacing them , it’s the cycle of life, you can’t stop it "That is very true so how long do you predict it will be until the uk asks to rejoin the eu? | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. Of course not trade deals go on all the time and for years 9well in the eu,s case) but how often do they make the news 24 hours a day? of course stuff will still be going on but there will not be the media speculation every day like there was before covid took over,just like trump in 6 months no one will be talking about it. COVID has completely over shadowed any news about Brexit , if the economy doesn’t recover as fast as hoped then someone will take the blame, that won’t be the EU anymore Thats the challenge theres a whole world out there and up to business to take advantage of it. " Yes, so we will wait and see what happens, but I can assure you, Brexit will not be old news on December 31st | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality. Their will if it is a shit storm, you seem to be forgetting that Brexit was mainly supported by the older generation and apposed by younger people. That older generation will be dying , the younger generation will be replacing them , it’s the cycle of life, you can’t stop it That is very true so how long do you predict it will be until the uk asks to rejoin the eu?"If Brexit is a success and the EU suffer without us, then never. If it is a shit storm and the younger generation of voters want to rejoin and pressure the government at the time then it could be in 10-15 years , | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know " We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E" No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead "I think the answer to that is pretty obvious. It's a shame we don't have a credible opposition. Politics is the worse for it. The Labour party has a few years to get it's shit together. I hope it does. E | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead
I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.
It's a shame we don't have a credible opposition. Politics is the worse for it.
The Labour party has a few years to get it's shit together.
I hope it does.
E"Hopefully, so you voted for Boris? Are you pleased with the way it is going? | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead "To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work."That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’ | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’ "A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead
I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.
It's a shame we don't have a credible opposition. Politics is the worse for it.
The Labour party has a few years to get it's shit together.
I hope it does.
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Hopefully, so you voted for Boris? Are you pleased with the way it is going? "Never make assumptions. E | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’ A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that."So you want strong opposition that has to agree with a government even though they keep making costly mistakes during a pandemic that is killing thousands? | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that."Very much this..... It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots. Party's pontificate about being for the people. Except of course when the people actually need them E | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead
I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.
It's a shame we don't have a credible opposition. Politics is the worse for it.
The Labour party has a few years to get it's shit together.
I hope it does.
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Hopefully, so you voted for Boris? Are you pleased with the way it is going?
Never make assumptions.
E"Sorry, my bad, there is nothing worse than accusing someone of being a Tory when they aren’t | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
E"So you fully support and agree with everything the government are doing during the pandemic? | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
E"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’ A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
So you want strong opposition that has to agree with a government even though they keep making costly mistakes during a pandemic that is killing thousands? "I want an opposition that will work with a government during a national crisis they obviously are not what with the manchester fiasco. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
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I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. "Is that every tory? | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’ A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
So you want strong opposition that has to agree with a government even though they keep making costly mistakes during a pandemic that is killing thousands? I want an opposition that will work with a government during a national crisis they obviously are not what with the manchester fiasco."Manchester fiasco? What happened there then? I was under the impression that KS and Andy Burnham wanted a National lockdown? | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
E
I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. Is that every tory?"No, that is unfair, I think he was only referring to the tories in parliament | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’ A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that."Boris only wanted labour to stop being critical around the time the government decided to hide stats comparing us with other countries, mainly in Europe.. When he was spouting drivel about world beating track and trace it was all the governments good work and as it became apparent it was not even effective they wanted labour to come on board .. So later they can point the finger and say labour were in agreement with every aspect.. Starmer has held his position in publicly stating they will support where it's going well but reserve the right as the official opposition to raise issues where it should be better.. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
E
I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. Is that every tory?"Sorry, I meant as in elected Tories. There might be members of their party who do pretend to care. But those in Westminster never seemed to claim they cared. Not without laughing and/or crossing their fingers behind their backs. Anyway, the point being, that no one can be surprised at the Tory party disaster Capitalism, being their approach to the pandemic being. And focussing their efforts around how much cash they can make off it. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
E
I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. Is that every tory?
Sorry, I meant as in elected Tories.
There might be members of their party who do pretend to care. But those in Westminster never seemed to claim they cared. Not without laughing and/or crossing their fingers behind their backs.
Anyway, the point being, that no one can be surprised at the Tory party disaster Capitalism, being their approach to the pandemic being. And focussing their efforts around how much cash they can make off it." do you generalize everyone the same,blacks,jews,muslims etc or is it only tories? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad "Exactly. Careful what you wish for, as our American cousins say. Trump replaced with Biden is an upgrade. Boris replaced with Patel, Hancock, Raab, Gove, etc wouldn't be. Sunak doesn't really have form - and though they might be capable, Hunt and Javid are unlikely to get the nod. Things are shit enough - no need to make the even shitter. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves." That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality. Their will if it is a shit storm, you seem to be forgetting that Brexit was mainly supported by the older generation and apposed by younger people. That older generation will be dying , the younger generation will be replacing them , it’s the cycle of life, you can’t stop it "I doubt there will ever be a push not in our lifetimes anyway no one will want to go through this shit it would be political suicide for any party leader to try ppl have had to much brexit brexit brexit who In there right mind would want all this shit again | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality. Their will if it is a shit storm, you seem to be forgetting that Brexit was mainly supported by the older generation and apposed by younger people. That older generation will be dying , the younger generation will be replacing them , it’s the cycle of life, you can’t stop it I doubt there will ever be a push not in our lifetimes anyway no one will want to go through this shit it would be political suicide for any party leader to try ppl have had to much brexit brexit brexit who In there right mind would want all this shit again "Your probably right, as long as Brexit is a success there will be no need to re join? I just don’t know who will be to blame if it isn’t | |||
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" Of course not it will all be done and dusted the end of this year and brexit will be history. C'mon, this is borderline delusional. There will be many more negotiations to follow with the EU. If we leave on 'No deal', it doesn't automatically mean there will never be a deal. And we'll be analysing and debating the effects of Brexit for years. In time there will also be a push to rejoin. It may or may not be successful, but it will happen. If Brexit is a success , and all the promises have been met then I doubt their will be a push to rejoin. That is a big ‘if’ though, we all know that certain people in this country like to have someone to blame , the option of blaming the EU has now gone, if things go to shit then they will need a new scape goat There will be no push to rejoin your letting your dreams get in the way of reality. Their will if it is a shit storm, you seem to be forgetting that Brexit was mainly supported by the older generation and apposed by younger people. That older generation will be dying , the younger generation will be replacing them , it’s the cycle of life, you can’t stop it I doubt there will ever be a push not in our lifetimes anyway no one will want to go through this shit it would be political suicide for any party leader to try ppl have had to much brexit brexit brexit who In there right mind would want all this shit again
Your probably right, as long as Brexit is a success there will be no need to re join? I just don’t know who will be to blame if it isn’t "there’s zero chance of a mention of rejoining at the next GE then we will probs have a labour government in charge so it will almost be ten yrs by time of the one then it will depend on where we are then amd where the EU is at | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so?" Why isn't it? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? " Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
E
I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. Is that every tory?
Sorry, I meant as in elected Tories.
There might be members of their party who do pretend to care. But those in Westminster never seemed to claim they cared. Not without laughing and/or crossing their fingers behind their backs.
Anyway, the point being, that no one can be surprised at the Tory party disaster Capitalism, being their approach to the pandemic being. And focussing their efforts around how much cash they can make off it. do you generalize everyone the same,blacks,jews,muslims etc or is it only tories?"Are you suggesting that people are born Tory? Tut tut. There is a difference between forming an opinion on someone based on their decision to be a Tory, and forming an opinion on someone based on their skin colour or religion. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so?" That's the power of propaganda for you! | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys?" Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour " Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys?" I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE | |||
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"Personally i think he will leave before his time is up not because someone tells the press he doesn't earn enough but to give the Tories a good chance of winning the next election." That shows you how crap he is. The guy is a disgrace. He is incompetent, shallow and lazy. This country deserves better. He should clear off ASAP. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE " What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? " Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories." it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE " Hopefully, but I doubt it, I don’t want to shock you but Boris and this Tory government have a tendency to tell lies, I think they will use the pandemic as an excuse not to give any extra money up here | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's " Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE Hopefully, but I doubt it, I don’t want to shock you but Boris and this Tory government have a tendency to tell lies, I think they will use the pandemic as an excuse not to give any extra money up here "it’s ok you haven’t shocked me mate iv sort of figured that out over the yrs if they want to stay in power they need the north that’s who put them in this time so they have no choice bud but time will tell | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's " You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE " Ha ha | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher?" Exactly , the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 , now who was the PM ? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 " Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher?" Yes. Your point is? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? " Record unemployment at the time of 3m? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me" I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Exactly , the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 , now who was the PM ? "What's the point in arguing with someone with a trumpian approach to the truth? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? " You said unemployment only falls under labour | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour "Read properly | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol" Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon." if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice " Look at the difference in how they have treated the north and the south in terms of covid. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice " Why should the tories worry? Brexit is going to be a great success in the north. Everybody will now have a job, earning much more money than they used to and with great hospitals thanks to the 365m. The tories have nothing to fear. They’ll walk the election in the north next time. Brexit über alles! | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Look at the difference in how they have treated the north and the south in terms of covid." What difference? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice " I get the point. They were in government prior to Brexit referendum and prior to Labour voters going to the dark side in the north. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice " Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Look at the difference in how they have treated the north and the south in terms of covid.What difference? " When the tier system was brought Merseyside,lancs and Manchester were offered 67%of their wages In the south it was 80% When he told lancs were going in it..he didn't even bother asking questions and wasnt even aware Wigan was in lancs.As a consequence several mps were not consulted. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative " If someone can be persuaded that Brexit is a good idea, they can easily be persuaded that voting Tory is a good idea too. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative " Course they dont. And it's going to be highly amusing when the penny eventually drops | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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It also rises even more under a Tory government? "What, once? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's You are are of a previous pm called Thatcher? Yes. Your point is? You said unemployment only falls under labour
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It also rises even more under a Tory government?
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour "The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative " great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit? "The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ?? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave " That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit? "Alright. So when unemployment goes up under Labour it’s because of Labour, when it’s under the tories, it’s because it is a time of change. Good job you’re working all day long unlike all of us. It means that people can get a break from this type of rubbish from 8 to 5 pm. Hopefully the tories will soon make the working day much much longer... | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
Alright. So when unemployment goes up under Labour it’s because of Labour, when it’s under the tories, it’s because it is a time of change.
Good job you’re working all day long unless all of us. It means that people can get a break from this type of rubbish from 8 to 5 pm. Hopefully the tories will soon make the working day much much longer... "Yeah, I reckon he should be working 60 hours a week at least, no break allowed | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ?? "I said that unemployment always rises under Labour | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked "we are used to been fucked mate | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate "You shouldn’t be, the north east is a great part of the country | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour "It rises more under the tories, 1984 12% 1985 11.3% 1986 11.2% 1992 10.5% 1994 10.1% | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate
You shouldn’t be, the north east is a great part of the country "we have always had the shit end of the stick tho it’s nothing new we just get on with it lol | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate
You shouldn’t be, the north east is a great part of the country we have always had the shit end of the stick tho it’s nothing new we just get on with it lol"That is why I really fear for the north east after brexit , I just hope I am wrong | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh"1980 7.4 1981 11.4 1982 13 1983 12.2 1984 12 1985 11.3 1986 11.2 1991 8 1992 9.8 1993 10.3 It goes up more than it goes down , duh | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh "Btw , the average employment rate since 1971 is 6.9 % a year, those figures I have shown are horrendous | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate
You shouldn’t be, the north east is a great part of the country we have always had the shit end of the stick tho it’s nothing new we just get on with it lol
That is why I really fear for the north east after brexit , I just hope I am wrong "tbh mate there’s a lot of money been invested up here at the moment teessport is looking good even better if we can get a free port | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate
You shouldn’t be, the north east is a great part of the country we have always had the shit end of the stick tho it’s nothing new we just get on with it lol
That is why I really fear for the north east after brexit , I just hope I am wrong tbh mate there’s a lot of money been invested up here at the moment teessport is looking good even better if we can get a free port "Fingers crossed | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh "You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave "You don’t get it, the tories have had the 10 worst ever employment rates , one was 13% , another was 12.2 % , they have 7 above 10 % when the average is 6.9 % . Now I will ask you again, why would a person on a low income in the north of England vote Tory ? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave "Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997 | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election. "What matters is the voice of the silent majority, not the vocal minority who have nothing better to do in their lives than criticise Boris . Boris delivered the only thing that matters - a lsnddlife victory. Everything else falls into place . Amazing to think that a year ago the liberal middle class thought that Jeremy Corbyn or Jo Swindon might be prime minister. They live in a world a long way detached from reality. . | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
You don’t get it, the tories have had the 10 worst ever employment rates , one was 13% , another was 12.2 % , they have 7 above 10 % when the average is 6.9 % . Now I will ask you again, why would a person on a low income in the north of England vote Tory ? "And I will tell you again, because there would be a good chance of having no income if they voted Labour | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997 "And what was the rate by May 2010? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997
And what was the rate by May 2010?"I can’t be arsed looking, enlighten me, cab you also give me 2011-2015 | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election. What matters is the voice of the silent majority, not the vocal minority who have nothing better to do in their lives than criticise Boris .
Boris delivered the only thing that matters - a lsnddlife victory. Everything else falls into place .
Amazing to think that a year ago the liberal middle class thought that Jeremy Corbyn or Jo Swindon might be prime minister.
They live in a world a long way detached from reality. ."Are you stuck on ‘repeat’? You must have told us 200 times that Bojo got voted in. People are not going to wait four years before debating his incompetence and his lies. Soak it up! Analysing, debating, monitoring, criticising etc is part of democracy. Unless the democracy you believe in is Trumpian. Next time you’re on the telly on the tory benches in the Lords or the Commons, give us a wave so that we can recognise you. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997
And what was the rate by May 2010?
I can’t be arsed looking, enlighten me, cab you also give me 2011-2015 "8% And when the Tories are thrown out of power again, which is highly unlikely any time soon, if ever, then chances are it will be less than that | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate "
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997
And what was the rate by May 2010?
I can’t be arsed looking, enlighten me, cab you also give me 2011-2015
8%
And when the Tories are thrown out of power again, which is highly unlikely any time soon, if ever, then chances are it will be less than that "Bloody hell, go back to work will you? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate
Then you're going to live post Brexit Britain. "did you mean love post brexit ? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? I think by the time of the next GE the torys will spend more money in the north than any party before them to bribe the north then labour will promise even more it’s just who you trust as the north have both party’s by the balls at the next GE What money? It's all been spunked on Brexit and covid/mates of the Tories.it will be the money they had planned for the south amd London lol Spending money on something that would help British people, and Northerners to boot, would be a bitter pill for most Tories to swallow. I would be surprised if they trashed all their own principles like that to stay in power. They've been in for over ten years without doing anything for anyone but themselves. So I don't see any radical change in policy anytime soon.if they want to stay in charge they really have no choice it was labour voters in the north that switched last GE because of brexit and corbyn that won them the vote like I say they have no choice Of course they have a choice, they will just blame COVID and concentrate on keeping their traditional voters sweet. They don’t give a shit about the Labour areas that decided to vote conservative great if they don’t give a shit then labour get in power so it’s a win win I’m a labour voter wouldn’t of switched last election if labour had backed leave That’s fair enough, I do hope brexit is a success for the north east because if it isn’t, your fucked we are used to been fucked mate
Then you're going to live post Brexit Britain. did you mean love post brexit ?"
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997
And what was the rate by May 2010?
I can’t be arsed looking, enlighten me, cab you also give me 2011-2015
8%
And when the Tories are thrown out of power again, which is highly unlikely any time soon, if ever, then chances are it will be less than that "Come back this time next year, btw, what was it in 2011 & 2012? we can go back and forth all night, the facts are based on a yearly average, unemployment is far worse under the tories than labour since 1971. | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
It goes down in those figures duh
1980 7.4
1981 11.4
1982 13
1983 12.2
1984 12
1985 11.3
1986 11.2
1991 8
1992 9.8
1993 10.3
It goes up more than it goes down , duh
You don't get it do you? Or don't want to get it. Why didn't you put 1997 4.7%? In other words unemployment fell from the time the Tories took power to the time they left. Whereas unemployment always rises from the time labour take power to the time they leave
Btw, Labour were in power from May 1997
And what was the rate by May 2010?
I can’t be arsed looking, enlighten me, cab you also give me 2011-2015
8%
And when the Tories are thrown out of power again, which is highly unlikely any time soon, if ever, then chances are it will be less than that
Bloody hell, go back to work will you? "I know, why is he on here instead of grafting, the work shy slacker | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay? "And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings. | |||
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"I can remember the same old arguments when people panicked about Corbyn coming on the scene. No real difference to the situation. The Torys won’t be going anywhere for the moment. Let the Brexit shit show pan out longer term and then see what happens. " But few want that, most just move to take the head of one leader then the next. Sadly politics here is not far removed from across the Atlantic, nor do the voters show much patience. The trend most are happy with is no change by putting down leadership. Few here would have the ability yet they know it all, even the future. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings."Your point? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings."Assuming you mean Blair? Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question? | |||
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"I don't remember the Tories ever even pretending to give a shit about people other than themselves. That's not fair - they pretend all the time. How the fuck do you think people keep voting for them; even when it's not in their interests to do so? Why isn't it? Can you explain how a low income working class person from the north of England will benefit from voting for the Torys? Because he'd more than likely become an even lower 'earning' non working person if he voted Labour Shall we compare standards of living, employment, wages etc with the last Labour government and the current Tory government? Fire away. Unemployment always rises under labour government's Does it, what are the current employment figures compared with 2001-2005 Can't be arsed to look, enlighten me I can’t be arsed , sorry, how about this, the highest unemployment rate recorded since 1971 was 11.9% in 1984 and you stated that employment always falls under Labour
The early 80's were a time of change. Would you rather we were still sending young men down t'pit?
The ten worst years for unemployment were all under the Tories, so, what is it you were saying earlier ??
I said that unemployment always rises under Labour
It rises more under the tories,
1984 12%
1985 11.3%
1986 11.2%
1992 10.5%
1994 10.1%
"So your conclusion would have some merit of the economy was reset each time, however, one minor fact you overlook is what the incoming government is handed. If a government is doing well, they rarely get removed so why didn't Labour remain in power or wasn't it quite as rosy as you would have us all believe? The main problem I see with a lot of fab politicians is that politics is black and white. Simple pat fixes seem to be the answers. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?"I think I said leaders  , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list. "Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?"There are light years between boris and Blair. | |||
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"So you all think that Corbyn and Abbott would have done a better job than Boris? Here we go with the whataboutery, maybe they would, maybe they wouldn’t, we will never know We'll never know because.............they were unelectable. E No point in comparing them then, why don’t people compare Boris with Jeremy Hunt, or Micheal Gove instead To get the best out of any government you need a strong opposition thats what makes democracy work its not about getting everything you want its about what is right, checks and balances from a strong opposition work.
That is what is currently happening, KS is scrutinising Boris every week and he is being accused of ‘playing politics’
A pandemic needs everyone to pull together and not to play politics.Totally different from everyday politics i thught you would have understood that.
Very much this.....
It should be about pulling together, not trying to score cheap shots.
Party's pontificate about being for the people.
Except of course when the people actually need them
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So you fully support and agree with everything the government are doing during the pandemic? "I don't see how you've taken that understanding or where that thought came from, from my reply. My reply and whether or not I agree with what the government are doing are not connected in any way. Are you just trying to be argumentative? E | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. " and register for a postal vote, - local elections next year, and we will probably still be socially distancing-it worked for Joe Biden. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. "Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory "Why is winning an election more of an achievement than doing something good as PM? | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory "Yep. The country is full of clueless simpletons. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory "So Blair will always be better than Boris until he wins 3 elections as-well | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?"You can indeed and smothers can have an opinion on what you think about current government and how you may think labour would have felt with it better. Sadly you won't know because they couldn't get in power, but what we are able to say is a big question mark would be over them with their past leadership. They would have had the same tools and resources to hand. Most other governments have been facing the same and most have been having similar outcomes, some a bit later or bit earlier, but nevertheless similar outcomes with this virus and pandemic. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory
Why is winning an election more of an achievement than doing something good as PM?"Because convincing simpletons with tree word slogans, social media and our tabloid tags is easy. Leading a country in these largely self-inflected troubled times is a different sport. Blondie is as useless as he’s been in all the jobs he has had in his career. Some things never change. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory
Why is winning an election more of an achievement than doing something good as PM?
Because convincing simpletons with tree word slogans, social media and our tabloid tags is easy. Leading a country in these largely self-inflected troubled times is a different sport. Blondie is as useless as he’s been in all the jobs he has had in his career. Some things never change. "Most people would accept that unless you win an election, you cannot put your plans into action . Consequenyly winning is the only thing that matters. Referring to the electorate as simpletons is hardly a vote winner . It might possibly explain a distinct lack of success in some areas. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory
Why is winning an election more of an achievement than doing something good as PM?"It isn't but some see it very simplistically as such. However what it often says as we've see repeatedly in this last year all around the work is.... We've had enough and people exercise their vote for something better or at least different. The devil you know and the devil you don't is really a great reason to stay as it doesn't open the door for new opportunities and possibilities. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay?
And labour leaders in recent years have been sterling stalwarts of fine leadership and exemplary thinking about human beings.
Assuming you mean Blair?
Are you suggesting that, because we had a shit PM from a different party in the past, we should accept our current shit PM without question?
I think I said leaders , and funny enough I hadn't factored Blair in that list.
Fair enough. But because someone like Blair was shit. Does that mean we can't have an opinion on Boris, and the shit job he's doing?
There are light years between boris and Blair. Or maybe a lot in common. Tony Blair was a very successfull Prime Minister and managed to win three elections. That in itself is a stunning achievement. The success of Boris last December is self explanatory
Why is winning an election more of an achievement than doing something good as PM?"Such a question is wasted on the electorate. I've brought this notion up a couple of times here. Winning an election and competency in what you are doing are two different things. Case and point: this Government and Brexit. | |||
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"With Trump out of the picture, now the focus is getting mini trump boris out, we got a few years left. So register to vote ppl, its going to be a long slog, but it will be worth it when we see the back of him. He will be gone at some point in 2021, what is worrying is that he might be replaced with someone just as bad
Why do you think he will go then? He delivered a landslide victory for the Conservatives and he has over four years before they could be punished for anything in a general election.
Because he is a grifter. He has already complained about his salary being to low , he will leave because being PM is to much like hard work and COVID has made it even harder. Once Brexit is ‘done’ (whatever that means) he will leave claiming he has achieved what he was elected to do and go and earn millions elsewhere. My question would be, why would he stay? "Boris is a political animal. He has always been ambitious. He got to be London Mayor and then set his sites on becoming Prime Minister. With some plotting and scheming, and one false start when he was stabbed in the back by Michael Gove, he achieved his goal. I don't think somebody like that just thinks "Actually, I don't like this after all" and just gives up. I don't see him walking away of his own accord and I don't see a significant push coming from his party either. | |||
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