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"I read a report where he tried to link food vouchers to crack dens and brothels. I dunno where he's going but the ones I use usually prefer cash!" Indeed. His reasoning is that a very small minority (by his own omission) misuse the food vouchers and so hence nobody should get them. 1) If your parents are spending their money on crack dens and brothels instead of your lunch, then you are probably the most in need of a free school meal. 2) So if a small minority of MPs misuse their expenses, then none should have them? -Matt | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?" and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong." Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! " Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference." The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. " Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. | |||
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" The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. " i agree.... but sometimes the tories don't help themselves and the reputation they have.. I thought one of their aims was "compassionate conservatism"...... the probably as Teresa may once said is they have the reputation of being "the nasty party"... | |||
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" The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. i agree.... but sometimes the tories don't help themselves and the reputation they have.. I thought one of their aims was "compassionate conservatism"...... the probably as Teresa may once said is they have the reputation of being "the nasty party"... " Surely that's an oxymoron? | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest." I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. | |||
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" The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. i agree.... but sometimes the tories don't help themselves and the reputation they have.. I thought one of their aims was "compassionate conservatism"...... the probably as Teresa may once said is they have the reputation of being "the nasty party"... " This is an own goal of huge proportions, and will haunt the Conservative Party for a long time to come. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. " So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. | |||
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" The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. i agree.... but sometimes the tories don't help themselves and the reputation they have.. I thought one of their aims was "compassionate conservatism"...... the probably as Teresa may once said is they have the reputation of being "the nasty party"... This is an own goal of huge proportions, and will haunt the Conservative Party for a long time to come. " I completely disagree. If there is one thing we learn from these forums it's that Tory voters do not give a fuck about feeding starving kids, cheering the denial of pay rises to the NHS, giving hundreds of millions of pounds to mates of the PM, blaming poor people for being poor etc. They will still support and vote for them no matter what. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. " I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. " I suppose it comes down to what you're prepared to accept, heated rhetoric or hungry children. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. I suppose it comes down to what you're prepared to accept, heated rhetoric or hungry children. " Neither are necessary. | |||
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" The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. i agree.... but sometimes the tories don't help themselves and the reputation they have.. I thought one of their aims was "compassionate conservatism"...... the probably as Teresa may once said is they have the reputation of being "the nasty party"... This is an own goal of huge proportions, and will haunt the Conservative Party for a long time to come. I completely disagree. If there is one thing we learn from these forums it's that Tory voters do not give a fuck about feeding starving kids, cheering the denial of pay rises to the NHS, giving hundreds of millions of pounds to mates of the PM, blaming poor people for being poor etc. They will still support and vote for them no matter what." Tory voters up and down the country must be saying..what they are blaming poor people for their own predicament Well that's The last time I'm voting for them | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. " There is no irony whatsoever. Some people are disgusted with their actions over the last few days and the rhetoric has got completely heated. In another story some crackpot believed the right wing nonsense and went out to kill a labour mp. There is no irony. There is no correlation They are completely separate | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. There is no irony whatsoever. Some people are disgusted with their actions over the last few days and the rhetoric has got completely heated. In another story some crackpot believed the right wing nonsense and went out to kill a labour mp. There is no irony. There is no correlation They are completely separate " Haters hate and a seed has been planted. I've seen many of the online debates, the tweets, the language used. Do you support #toryscum? | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. I suppose it comes down to what you're prepared to accept, heated rhetoric or hungry children. Neither are necessary. " The ship sailed a long time ago. Pleading for civility and moderation in language now is hypocrisy. Dog whistles and pantomime stage winks are ok but speaking in a straightforward way isn't? The likes of Johnson and Farage rode to success using vile loaded language, when challenged was speaking sarcastically or ironically. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. There is no irony whatsoever. Some people are disgusted with their actions over the last few days and the rhetoric has got completely heated. In another story some crackpot believed the right wing nonsense and went out to kill a labour mp. There is no irony. There is no correlation They are completely separate Haters hate and a seed has been planted. I've seen many of the online debates, the tweets, the language used. Do you support #toryscum? " I'm not on Twitter Go and have a look at see how many people died under austerity and you are more concerned that someone on the internet called them a nasty name? | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. So why are you mentioning jo Cox then? Its completely irrelevant. I'm not sure if you can't or won't see the irony. People of all political persuasions are always entitled to their opinion. Just a shame that the hate has to start somewhere. There is no irony whatsoever. Some people are disgusted with their actions over the last few days and the rhetoric has got completely heated. In another story some crackpot believed the right wing nonsense and went out to kill a labour mp. There is no irony. There is no correlation They are completely separate Haters hate and a seed has been planted. I've seen many of the online debates, the tweets, the language used. Do you support #toryscum? " Both Priti Patel and Boris Johnson have been using inflammatory language towards immigration lawyers recently, and in at least one case it has almost lead to drastic consequences, yet Patel has carried on with the rhetoric. The Tories really can't complain about provocative language when both the PM and home secretary are happily indulging in just that themselves. | |||
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"It's funny, I remember campaigning for remaining in the EU in 2016. I went onto a Council estate to canvas. Everyone was voting leave as they were convinced it'd usher in a government that would take better care of working class and poor people who were British. Same Council estate in 2019. Sentiments were often the following to paraphrase, "I'm voting Tory to get brexit sorted, then the government is accountable to us here and we'll get some change and support." Agreed with what they wanted, just didn't agree with the plan to get it. The stories were echoed by friends canvassing in the North and Midlands. I want to know what the people who voted Tory for the first time, think of their purchase." That's really heartbreaking to hear. The people who voted for this are often those who will suffer the most. I know that there seems like there is little sympathy for leave voters on here. But the reality is, they were sold a pack of lies over decades in a concerted effort to blame the EU for all their woes. | |||
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"Oh and yet another tory - Morgan - defended voting down the free school meals because the Tories had been called scum. So the Tories voted not to give food to needy kids because their poor feelings were hurt?and now because Angela Rayner quite rightly called them scum they have written to kierstarmer trying to blame Labour for the public vitriol thats coming there way good old tories deflect deny obfuscate when ever they are caught in the wrong. Forgotten Jo Cox MP already? Even Marcus Rashford has called for the abuse to stop! Jo Cox was killed by a far right radical Tories have been called cunts for an inhumane decision Slight difference. The language being used and the sentiments are exactly the same. Words of hate have no place in politics. Calling someone scum and knife ing someone to death are not comparable in the slightest. I never said they were. But if you think that campaigns like #toryscum are acceptable, then carry on. It is a campaign that Marcus Rashford has disassociated himself from, and quite rightly. " Probably, if you don’t want to be called scum for denying starving children a meal, you shouldn’t vote to deny starving children a meal. | |||
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"It's funny, I remember campaigning for remaining in the EU in 2016. I went onto a Council estate to canvas. Everyone was voting leave as they were convinced it'd usher in a government that would take better care of working class and poor people who were British. Same Council estate in 2019. Sentiments were often the following to paraphrase, "I'm voting Tory to get brexit sorted, then the government is accountable to us here and we'll get some change and support." Agreed with what they wanted, just didn't agree with the plan to get it. The stories were echoed by friends canvassing in the North and Midlands. I want to know what the people who voted Tory for the first time, think of their purchase. That's really heartbreaking to hear. The people who voted for this are often those who will suffer the most. I know that there seems like there is little sympathy for leave voters on here. But the reality is, they were sold a pack of lies over decades in a concerted effort to blame the EU for all their woes." I've got very little sympathy I must admit. They were pissed of at a labour gmnt which had moved to the centre ,so when presented with the opportunity for change, en masses they voted for the likes of johnson and Farage. If you generally believe that lot give a flying fuck about working class people,you deserve all you get. | |||
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"Ben Bradley also said that working class men should get a vasectomy or we would soon be “drowning in a vast sea of unemployed wasters”" Is he an mp? | |||
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"Ben Bradley also said that working class men should get a vasectomy or we would soon be “drowning in a vast sea of unemployed wasters” Is he an mp?" Somehow, yes. | |||
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"Ben Bradley also said that working class men should get a vasectomy or we would soon be “drowning in a vast sea of unemployed wasters” Is he an mp? Somehow, yes." Well that's what the bright people of Mansfield get for voting in a former young conservative | |||
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"Ben Bradley also said that working class men should get a vasectomy or we would soon be “drowning in a vast sea of unemployed wasters” Is he an mp? Somehow, yes. Well that's what the bright people of Mansfield get for voting in a former young conservative " I'm guessing his majority might shrink a tiny bit next time. | |||
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