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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. " I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter." its already cost them an MP | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter." I think it will cost them. In the minds of certain right wingers, foreigners are these faceless far away people up to who knows what. But starving British kids... they're much closer to home and much more blameless | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter.its already cost them an MP" Who has been slated by her colleagues. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. I think it will cost them. In the minds of certain right wingers, foreigners are these faceless far away people up to who knows what. But starving British kids... they're much closer to home and much more blameless" They will simply put it out there that some of the kids are not English. Its amazing that people are actually surprised at this.Do they have the attention span of a gnat? | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. I think it will cost them. In the minds of certain right wingers, foreigners are these faceless far away people up to who knows what. But starving British kids... they're much closer to home and much more blameless They will simply put it out there that some of the kids are not English. Its amazing that people are actually surprised at this.Do they have the attention span of a gnat?" Noooo we'll see demonising of the poor as the main excuse. That will sway certain readers of right wing bilge. But I think many other people will be genuinely disgusted by this recent Tory move. | |||
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"Silly me thought this was about starving kids and the tories " It is. Not sure what your point is. | |||
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"Silly me thought this was about starving kids and the tories It is. Not sure what your point is." so why bring up foreigners and right wingers will the torys loose votes I think so is it enough to loose the next GE not sure | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. " No one has voted to deny starving kids food. That is a ridiculous statement. Those who voted against the proposal are probably the more responsible members of society who believe that public expenditure should be directed towards those most in need and not given out on a blanket basis . Steps have already been taken via amendments to the Universal Credit system to address the issue in addition to more local authority funding during the crisis for a variety of key areas . Any fool can vote for additional expenditure when it is not their money. At least those voting against the request are taking a responsible attitude. Maybe the issue to be addressed is how parents are spending their Universal Credit and child benefit . Help is available on an individual basis for those most in need | |||
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"Silly me thought this was about starving kids and the tories It is. Not sure what your point is. so why bring up foreigners and right wingers will the torys loose votes I think so is it enough to loose the next GE not sure " Huh? I brought up foreigners to illustrate the mindset of certain right wingers. As stated above. Certain right wingers have been known to vote Tory. And maybe after the starving kids thing, they won't. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. No one has voted to deny starving kids food. That is a ridiculous statement. Those who voted against the proposal are probably the more responsible members of society who believe that public expenditure should be directed towards those most in need and not given out on a blanket basis . Steps have already been taken via amendments to the Universal Credit system to address the issue in addition to more local authority funding during the crisis for a variety of key areas . Any fool can vote for additional expenditure when it is not their money. At least those voting against the request are taking a responsible attitude. Maybe the issue to be addressed is how parents are spending their Universal Credit and child benefit . Help is available on an individual basis for those most in need " Yup that's the old demonising the poor line. I wondered how soon somebody would raise it. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. I think it will cost them. In the minds of certain right wingers, foreigners are these faceless far away people up to who knows what. But starving British kids... they're much closer to home and much more blameless They will simply put it out there that some of the kids are not English. Its amazing that people are actually surprised at this.Do they have the attention span of a gnat? Noooo we'll see demonising of the poor as the main excuse. That will sway certain readers of right wing bilge. But I think many other people will be genuinely disgusted by this recent Tory move." Cant see it. You cant go out and vote for the likes of Johnson,reece mogg,gove,Mcvey etc and then be surprised when they act like cunts. If it doesn't affect turn directly, people won't be arsed. | |||
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"Silly me thought this was about starving kids and the tories It is. Not sure what your point is. so why bring up foreigners and right wingers will the torys loose votes I think so is it enough to loose the next GE not sure Huh? I brought up foreigners to illustrate the mindset of certain right wingers. As stated above. Certain right wingers have been known to vote Tory. And maybe after the starving kids thing, they won't. " so yr answer is yes they will loose votes same as me then lol | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. No one has voted to deny starving kids food. That is a ridiculous statement. Those who voted against the proposal are probably the more responsible members of society who believe that public expenditure should be directed towards those most in need and not given out on a blanket basis . Steps have already been taken via amendments to the Universal Credit system to address the issue in addition to more local authority funding during the crisis for a variety of key areas . Any fool can vote for additional expenditure when it is not their money. At least those voting against the request are taking a responsible attitude. Maybe the issue to be addressed is how parents are spending their Universal Credit and child benefit . Help is available on an individual basis for those most in need " Glad to see brainwashing still works well. | |||
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"Silly me thought this was about starving kids and the tories It is. Not sure what your point is. so why bring up foreigners and right wingers will the torys loose votes I think so is it enough to loose the next GE not sure Huh? I brought up foreigners to illustrate the mindset of certain right wingers. As stated above. Certain right wingers have been known to vote Tory. And maybe after the starving kids thing, they won't. so yr answer is yes they will loose votes same as me then lol" Yes. I just explained my reasoning above. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter." You could probably imagine tory voters justifcation for supporting this immoral act. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. You could probably imagine tory voters justifcation for supporting this immoral act." Some will justify it, yes. See the old blame the poor excuse that was trotted out above. But I think, for others, this act will be the final step. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter.its already cost them an MP" She is still a Conservative MP, just not in the top tier. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. You could probably imagine tory voters justifcation for supporting this immoral act. Some will justify it, yes. See the old blame the poor excuse that was trotted out above. But I think, for others, this act will be the final step. " I hope so, especially when the comparison is made to the billions handed out willy-nilly to companies run by mates, that have failed to deliver on their contracts. The number of cases the Good Law Project have on the go against the Government at the moment is shocking. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? " At this moment there will be zoom meetings with the likes of the daily mail,discussing the best way to spin this. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? At this moment there will be zoom meetings with the likes of the daily mail,discussing the best way to spin this. " Rishi is on at 16:00, be interesting to see what he has to say... | |||
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It was a joke, but don't mention it to Priti Patel. | |||
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"I suppose that instead of deporting the homeless EU citizens, the Tories could cook them and feed them to hungry kids instead. That would kill two birds with one stone.
It was a joke, but don't mention it to Priti Patel. "Don't give her ideas! | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? " You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’  | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’ "I saw that, too. Amazing. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’ "Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. No one has voted to deny starving kids food. That is a ridiculous statement. Those who voted against the proposal are probably the more responsible members of society who believe that public expenditure should be directed towards those most in need and not given out on a blanket basis . Steps have already been taken via amendments to the Universal Credit system to address the issue in addition to more local authority funding during the crisis for a variety of key areas . Any fool can vote for additional expenditure when it is not their money. At least those voting against the request are taking a responsible attitude. Maybe the issue to be addressed is how parents are spending their Universal Credit and child benefit . Help is available on an individual basis for those most in need " This is a very eloquent way to say "fuck the poor". | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. No one has voted to deny starving kids food. That is a ridiculous statement. Those who voted against the proposal are probably the more responsible members of society who believe that public expenditure should be directed towards those most in need and not given out on a blanket basis . Steps have already been taken via amendments to the Universal Credit system to address the issue in addition to more local authority funding during the crisis for a variety of key areas . Any fool can vote for additional expenditure when it is not their money. At least those voting against the request are taking a responsible attitude. Maybe the issue to be addressed is how parents are spending their Universal Credit and child benefit . Help is available on an individual basis for those most in need This is a very eloquent way to say "fuck the poor"." It's worse than that. It's more like "blame the poor." That always seems to be the reasoning that's pushed when it comes to this sort of issue. And far too many people buy into it. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English. "Second time! Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject? 
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
"Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! " You think we still have a benefits culture? | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart."And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject? | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?"It was obviously a joke aimed at Farage. You do seem keen to derail this thread. Do you have any thoughts on the actual thread topic? | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! " To resolve this we would then have to pass judgement on parents and assess then.( which to many would be an unacceptable concept ) Maybe the meal element of their benefits for children could be cut and instead used to supply meals for their children. It would however be quite expensive to administer. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?
It was obviously a joke aimed at Farage.
You do seem keen to derail this thread. Do you have any thoughts on the actual thread topic?"Thread was already derailed 5 posts in when the first racist connotation was introduced to the subject.. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! To resolve this we would then have to pass judgement on parents and assess then.( which to many would be an unacceptable concept ) Maybe the meal element of their benefits for children could be cut and instead used to supply meals for their children. It would however be quite expensive to administer. " Tory instinct right there. If it's money for anybody who needs it, cut cut cut. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?
It was obviously a joke aimed at Farage.
You do seem keen to derail this thread. Do you have any thoughts on the actual thread topic?
Thread was already derailed 5 posts in when the first racist connotation was introduced to the subject.."So you can't be bothered to address the topic at all. Good to know. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?
It was obviously a joke aimed at Farage.
You do seem keen to derail this thread. Do you have any thoughts on the actual thread topic?
Thread was already derailed 5 posts in when the first racist connotation was introduced to the subject..
So you can't be bothered to address the topic at all. Good to know."In fairness he has. I'm assuming he is a Tory voter? (Apologies if not). But it's an excellent example of how it literally doesn't matter what the Tories do, people will defend them and vote for them regardless. If they the children of population they're supposed to be working for, starve. It matters not a jot. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?"I can't be arsed taking it off topic Why dont you carry on defending a gmnt who is happy to see kids starve? | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids "You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death? | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?"The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating? | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?"So... you're happy if children starve a bit? As long as they don't starve to death? | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?"There is a difference between starving and requiring medical attention for starvation. | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?
So... you're happy if children starve a bit? As long as they don't starve to death?"Ever been to Africa? You don't fucking know what starving actually is. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! You think we still have a benefits culture?" Yes sadly I do but the benefits system is too stingy for some and too generous for others | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?
So... you're happy if children starve a bit? As long as they don't starve to death?
Ever been to Africa? You don't fucking know what starving actually is."Really? You can do better than that surely? | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?
There is a difference between starving and requiring medical attention for starvation."Just feed your kids and cut the bullshit, eh? | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?
So... you're happy if children starve a bit? As long as they don't starve to death?
Ever been to Africa? You don't fucking know what starving actually is."It seems you don't know what words mean. Starving doesn't only mean "to death". | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! You think we still have a benefits culture? Yes sadly I do but the benefits system is too stingy for some and too generous for others " I doubt v much its stingy at all. I think there was a dispatches show on ch 4 a while ago.. see if you can catch that. | |||
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"If kids are starving in the UK, they must be blocking the hospitals with medical cases requiring treatment for malnutrition. During Covid time, it's not good to have so many starving children taking up bed spaces. Feed your kids
You realise there is a difference between going hungry and starving to death?
The OP says "starving", as do other posts. Are you implying that they're exaggerating?
There is a difference between starving and requiring medical attention for starvation.
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! To resolve this we would then have to pass judgement on parents and assess then.( which to many would be an unacceptable concept ) Maybe the meal element of their benefits for children could be cut and instead used to supply meals for their children. It would however be quite expensive to administer. Tory instinct right there. If it's money for anybody who needs it, cut cut cut." Except there was no attempt to make monetary cuts. Some posters have implied that a number of parents are incapable of feeding their children. The suggested resolution was to pay part of the existing benefits to an organisation to supply food to the children. This simply ensures that the benefits are used for the purpose intended .( namely feeding children ). | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! To resolve this we would then have to pass judgement on parents and assess then.( which to many would be an unacceptable concept ) Maybe the meal element of their benefits for children could be cut and instead used to supply meals for their children. It would however be quite expensive to administer. " Or we could just feed the kids for a few million and educate them towards a better life. Teachers can tell you who needs help.Their parents are probably too late to steer in the right direction. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! To resolve this we would then have to pass judgement on parents and assess then.( which to many would be an unacceptable concept ) Maybe the meal element of their benefits for children could be cut and instead used to supply meals for their children. It would however be quite expensive to administer. Tory instinct right there. If it's money for anybody who needs it, cut cut cut. Except there was no attempt to make monetary cuts. Some posters have implied that a number of parents are incapable of feeding their children. The suggested resolution was to pay part of the existing benefits to an organisation to supply food to the children. This simply ensures that the benefits are used for the purpose intended .( namely feeding children ). You really should get a job at tory hq" Wouldn't be surprised if they worked there already. | |||
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"Just looked at twitter. Here's a few things that are currently trending: ToryScumOut FreeSchoolMeals EatNowtToHelpOut FeedingBritain GuyFawkes I wonder, will the Tories perform a U-turn? You know it is bad when Farage has criticised the government, tweeting that they are a ‘mean and wrong’
Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?
I can't be arsed taking it off topic
Why dont you carry on defending a gmnt who is happy to see kids starve?"You already have - 5 posts in when you sadly felt it necessary to make racist suggestions . Why did you do this? | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Simply because there are no starving kids in UK. ! The UK has one of the highest rates of childhood obesity in Europe. In 2018, around one in 10 children aged four to five were classified as obese, and around one in five children aged 10 to 11 were. Tell you what you never see? I slim or under weight Labour MP Look up child poverty in the uk and starving children in the uk. It seems reality doesn't agree with your post. If their starving why 20% over weight ? Clinically obese to be procise. " I don't think the 20% of obese children are the ones going hungry.  | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Simply because there are no starving kids in UK. ! The UK has one of the highest rates of childhood obesity in Europe. In 2018, around one in 10 children aged four to five were classified as obese, and around one in five children aged 10 to 11 were. Tell you what you never see? I slim or under weight Labour MP Look up child poverty in the uk and starving children in the uk. It seems reality doesn't agree with your post. If their starving why 20% over weight ? Clinically obese to be procise. " Because parents are too lazy to feed their kids healthy food whether they work or not. Also fast food and processed foods contain lots of sugars. Poor kids and kids in abusive homes go hungry and should be looked after and I don’t give a fuck which side of political divide you sit that is just how it should be. Again education plays a part in why we have fat kids . | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Simply because there are no starving kids in UK. ! The UK has one of the highest rates of childhood obesity in Europe. In 2018, around one in 10 children aged four to five were classified as obese, and around one in five children aged 10 to 11 were. Tell you what you never see? I slim or under weight Labour MP Look up child poverty in the uk and starving children in the uk. It seems reality doesn't agree with your post. If their starving why 20% over weight ? Clinically obese to be procise. Because parents are too lazy to feed their kids healthy food whether they work or not. Also fast food and processed foods contain lots of sugars. Poor kids and kids in abusive homes go hungry and should be looked after and I don’t give a fuck which side of political divide you sit that is just how it should be. Again education plays a part in why we have fat kids . " So all children in abusive homes need taking into care. Ok that will solve all the problems. Oh who’s going to pay for this? As it costs 2 to 4 grand per week for one looked after child. | |||
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Just wait till someone tell him some of them arent English.
Second time!
Why are you trying to introduce racist connotations into this subject?
Because farage and racism are just completely worlds apart.
And your first attempt at introducing racism into the subject?
I can't be arsed taking it off topic
Why dont you carry on defending a gmnt who is happy to see kids starve?
You already have - 5 posts in when you sadly felt it necessary to make racist suggestions .
Why did you do this?
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! You think we still have a benefits culture? Yes sadly I do but the benefits system is too stingy for some and too generous for others I doubt v much its stingy at all. I think there was a dispatches show on ch 4 a while ago.. see if you can catch that. To give examples Personally after two births no more child allowance. You want more kids you pay for them My partner at the time worked in a secure rehabilitation centre for drug and alcohol abusers or just psychotic younger adults. It was three lovely spaced out dormitory bungalows all with en-suite private rooms. You got to go there if you tried to self harm or threatened others. The clients as they called them were given three meals a day plus, trips to the cinema, bowling m local theme park plus a help with shopping for personal items. On top of this they kept their benefit each week as it was saved for them so it built up nicely. Around 20% of the cases were genuinely in need, this was the lead doctors view. Now after the d*unk or drug addict had been cleared for release they would go out and party on their saved benefits until it ran out. Then true to form they would climb the nearest roof and tell the police I’m going to kill myself. Being unable to say well fucking jump then they were taken back for a few more months of treatment,. And so the cycle continues. Another example . I was waiting for a car to be serviced and watching through the glass standing next to a guy. I asked which was his and he pointed out the nearly new Volkswagen Touran 7 seater. Being polite I said nice car. His response was I got £17k mobility allowance towards it. My curiosity peaked I was subtle but asked I hope he was ok but what was his illness? I knew the answer before I asked because he was about twenty stone. He had a bad back so quit work. Looking towards his equally fat wife he said she gets allowance too. She used to work but again couldn’t work now. Whilst my rage at the fact he also gets a new car every three years was under control I asked why were you allowed a 7 seater. His reply , I told them I had to pick up my grandkids from school. Forgive if I’m wrong but isn’t that the parents problem not the taxpayers . My last point was a very distant relative of mine. He had chronic arthritis and had virtually every joint replaced. Now he received benefits to put a roof over his head and he had a scooter to go to the shops. I would visit with my kids but he lived a few hundred miles away and had no close family anyway. His life was watch the telly and sleep. Compare his life to the generous benefits for the drug addicts being taken to the cinema etc and the ridiculous people carrier for the fat bastard. You see the system fed him but gave him no life as he didn’t get any support apart from that money. The health worker visited but had no budget to take him anywhere and he couldn’t drive himself. He died alone and in pain. " I'd post a link here but I cant. A man from here weighing 6 stone who could barely walk was deemed fit to work,and his £67 a week benefits were stopped He was took into hospital and died a few weeks later of pneumonia. A few people blah the system.. fucking hell ,how many at the top do you think do it. But that example I gave is not something from a humane society. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! You think we still have a benefits culture? Yes sadly I do but the benefits system is too stingy for some and too generous for others I doubt v much its stingy at all. I think there was a dispatches show on ch 4 a while ago.. see if you can catch that. To give examples Personally after two births no more child allowance. You want more kids you pay for them My partner at the time worked in a secure rehabilitation centre for drug and alcohol abusers or just psychotic younger adults. It was three lovely spaced out dormitory bungalows all with en-suite private rooms. You got to go there if you tried to self harm or threatened others. The clients as they called them were given three meals a day plus, trips to the cinema, bowling m local theme park plus a help with shopping for personal items. On top of this they kept their benefit each week as it was saved for them so it built up nicely. Around 20% of the cases were genuinely in need, this was the lead doctors view. Now after the d*unk or drug addict had been cleared for release they would go out and party on their saved benefits until it ran out. Then true to form they would climb the nearest roof and tell the police I’m going to kill myself. Being unable to say well fucking jump then they were taken back for a few more months of treatment,. And so the cycle continues. Another example . I was waiting for a car to be serviced and watching through the glass standing next to a guy. I asked which was his and he pointed out the nearly new Volkswagen Touran 7 seater. Being polite I said nice car. His response was I got £17k mobility allowance towards it. My curiosity peaked I was subtle but asked I hope he was ok but what was his illness? I knew the answer before I asked because he was about twenty stone. He had a bad back so quit work. Looking towards his equally fat wife he said she gets allowance too. She used to work but again couldn’t work now. Whilst my rage at the fact he also gets a new car every three years was under control I asked why were you allowed a 7 seater. His reply , I told them I had to pick up my grandkids from school. Forgive if I’m wrong but isn’t that the parents problem not the taxpayers . My last point was a very distant relative of mine. He had chronic arthritis and had virtually every joint replaced. Now he received benefits to put a roof over his head and he had a scooter to go to the shops. I would visit with my kids but he lived a few hundred miles away and had no close family anyway. His life was watch the telly and sleep. Compare his life to the generous benefits for the drug addicts being taken to the cinema etc and the ridiculous people carrier for the fat bastard. You see the system fed him but gave him no life as he didn’t get any support apart from that money. The health worker visited but had no budget to take him anywhere and he couldn’t drive himself. He died alone and in pain. I'd post a link here but I cant. A man from here weighing 6 stone who could barely walk was deemed fit to work,and his £67 a week benefits were stopped He was took into hospital and died a few weeks later of pneumonia. A few people blah the system.. fucking hell ,how many at the top do you think do it. But that example I gave is not something from a humane society. I think the focus is on cost rather than need . The case you mention is truly horrific I seriously believe we don’t support those who need help enough and support those who don’t too much . My experience of benefits is limited and I suspect most people learn from tabloids . " I don't doubt people are playing the system But that happens everywhere. The problem is we have utterly demonized those at the bottom whilst the gmnt can handle out multi million pound contracts to its friends without a word being said. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! You think we still have a benefits culture? Yes sadly I do but the benefits system is too stingy for some and too generous for others I doubt v much its stingy at all. I think there was a dispatches show on ch 4 a while ago.. see if you can catch that. To give examples Personally after two births no more child allowance. You want more kids you pay for them My partner at the time worked in a secure rehabilitation centre for drug and alcohol abusers or just psychotic younger adults. It was three lovely spaced out dormitory bungalows all with en-suite private rooms. You got to go there if you tried to self harm or threatened others. The clients as they called them were given three meals a day plus, trips to the cinema, bowling m local theme park plus a help with shopping for personal items. On top of this they kept their benefit each week as it was saved for them so it built up nicely. Around 20% of the cases were genuinely in need, this was the lead doctors view. Now after the d*unk or drug addict had been cleared for release they would go out and party on their saved benefits until it ran out. Then true to form they would climb the nearest roof and tell the police I’m going to kill myself. Being unable to say well fucking jump then they were taken back for a few more months of treatment,. And so the cycle continues. Another example . I was waiting for a car to be serviced and watching through the glass standing next to a guy. I asked which was his and he pointed out the nearly new Volkswagen Touran 7 seater. Being polite I said nice car. His response was I got £17k mobility allowance towards it. My curiosity peaked I was subtle but asked I hope he was ok but what was his illness? I knew the answer before I asked because he was about twenty stone. He had a bad back so quit work. Looking towards his equally fat wife he said she gets allowance too. She used to work but again couldn’t work now. Whilst my rage at the fact he also gets a new car every three years was under control I asked why were you allowed a 7 seater. His reply , I told them I had to pick up my grandkids from school. Forgive if I’m wrong but isn’t that the parents problem not the taxpayers . My last point was a very distant relative of mine. He had chronic arthritis and had virtually every joint replaced. Now he received benefits to put a roof over his head and he had a scooter to go to the shops. I would visit with my kids but he lived a few hundred miles away and had no close family anyway. His life was watch the telly and sleep. Compare his life to the generous benefits for the drug addicts being taken to the cinema etc and the ridiculous people carrier for the fat bastard. You see the system fed him but gave him no life as he didn’t get any support apart from that money. The health worker visited but had no budget to take him anywhere and he couldn’t drive himself. He died alone and in pain. I'd post a link here but I cant. A man from here weighing 6 stone who could barely walk was deemed fit to work,and his £67 a week benefits were stopped He was took into hospital and died a few weeks later of pneumonia. A few people blah the system.. fucking hell ,how many at the top do you think do it. But that example I gave is not something from a humane society. I think the focus is on cost rather than need . The case you mention is truly horrific I seriously believe we don’t support those who need help enough and support those who don’t too much . My experience of benefits is limited and I suspect most people learn from tabloids . I don't doubt people are playing the system But that happens everywhere. The problem is we have utterly demonized those at the bottom whilst the gmnt can handle out multi million pound contracts to its friends without a word being said." I agree with all that you write | |||
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"Did I dream this or have the MPs themselves a £3000 pay rise recently? Hats off. Again, I’m so pleased we’ve taken back control. We do things so much better in our own parliament. It would be a shame to be forced to be inhumane by Brussels. What has this country become? Up in arms for a handful of migrants crossing the channel for three months every summer, shocked by the idea of poor kids getting free meals but OK for the boss of the Daily Mail not to pay any tax and the taxpayers to pay for Buckingham Palace to be tatted up! At what do the people who vote Tory start being embarrassed? " They dont. Said it before we are bred into it going back centuries. | |||
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"Actually to counter previous comments some of those children will actually be going hungry and that’s a fact. Witnessing some children’s lives in a school first hand they were exhausted as they didn’t eat proper meals at home. We fed them out of school petty cash before they went home. I was the financial governor so helped moved the cash to do this. It wasn’t big numbers and we just paid for our own school trips. Don’t blame the child and make them go hungry. Blame the education of the parents and their parents before them if you don’t educate people and keep them buried in the benefits culture you cannot then blame them for following the example of ealier generations. We don’t have true poverty in this country as it’s measured on average incomes. What we do have is an ever growing underclass that will never escape the dark depressing world they live in because they simply don’t know how to. What sort of society leaves a child to go hungry because their parents are shit! You think we still have a benefits culture? Yes sadly I do but the benefits system is too stingy for some and too generous for others I doubt v much its stingy at all. I think there was a dispatches show on ch 4 a while ago.. see if you can catch that. To give examples Personally after two births no more child allowance. You want more kids you pay for them My partner at the time worked in a secure rehabilitation centre for drug and alcohol abusers or just psychotic younger adults. It was three lovely spaced out dormitory bungalows all with en-suite private rooms. You got to go there if you tried to self harm or threatened others. The clients as they called them were given three meals a day plus, trips to the cinema, bowling m local theme park plus a help with shopping for personal items. On top of this they kept their benefit each week as it was saved for them so it built up nicely. Around 20% of the cases were genuinely in need, this was the lead doctors view. Now after the d*unk or drug addict had been cleared for release they would go out and party on their saved benefits until it ran out. Then true to form they would climb the nearest roof and tell the police I’m going to kill myself. Being unable to say well fucking jump then they were taken back for a few more months of treatment,. And so the cycle continues. Another example . I was waiting for a car to be serviced and watching through the glass standing next to a guy. I asked which was his and he pointed out the nearly new Volkswagen Touran 7 seater. Being polite I said nice car. His response was I got £17k mobility allowance towards it. My curiosity peaked I was subtle but asked I hope he was ok but what was his illness? I knew the answer before I asked because he was about twenty stone. He had a bad back so quit work. Looking towards his equally fat wife he said she gets allowance too. She used to work but again couldn’t work now. Whilst my rage at the fact he also gets a new car every three years was under control I asked why were you allowed a 7 seater. His reply , I told them I had to pick up my grandkids from school. Forgive if I’m wrong but isn’t that the parents problem not the taxpayers . My last point was a very distant relative of mine. He had chronic arthritis and had virtually every joint replaced. Now he received benefits to put a roof over his head and he had a scooter to go to the shops. I would visit with my kids but he lived a few hundred miles away and had no close family anyway. His life was watch the telly and sleep. Compare his life to the generous benefits for the drug addicts being taken to the cinema etc and the ridiculous people carrier for the fat bastard. You see the system fed him but gave him no life as he didn’t get any support apart from that money. The health worker visited but had no budget to take him anywhere and he couldn’t drive himself. He died alone and in pain. " So these experiences have given you this view. They are adults, not children. You can’t blame someone for being born into a situation which is beyond their control. You just create the next generation of mentally scarred adults if you don’t act now. But I guess you need that threat to continue keeping people down. Who are the real sick people in society? The ones who suffer? Or the ones who keep them suffering? | |||
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It costs a fraction of that when placed in Foster care, which is the preferred option of most authorities. "The actual published figures are £33k per child in foster care and £131-135k a full time care home. So the bottom end of Bensherman1’s estimate on his post is correct. Funding over the last 10 years has been cut in all areas . The worst area in London by 17% but that’s an exception as most in the South East is less than that. The average cuts in the North are 33% . This comes about with the governments biased and broken long running view that more money should go into successful areas. It’s the same reason Public transport spending in London is £3500-4500 per head, per year whilst in Newcastle it’s £300 Manchester £700 | |||
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"From a supporter of the party that had Jo Cox MP murdered... "..... Fucking tory scum have ensured that a million children will starve this winter." Words fail me. " Which party? | |||
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"From a supporter of the party that had Jo Cox MP murdered... "..... Fucking tory scum have ensured that a million children will starve this winter." Words fail me. Which party?" Sorry, my words didn't quite make sense there. Labour party supporter. | |||
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"Councils coming forward to say they will make provisions for school holiday lunches. Isn't this is what they should be doing anyway with additional funding they are being fed by the government? What's happening to this funding that is to be managed and distributed by local authorities to support those most in need? Are the families most in need not aware their local authority can provide support. " I think this is at least part of the problem, along with reluctance to ask for help. Universal Credit, was a good idea to simplify the whole complex system. Shame about the execution though. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. No one has voted to deny starving kids food. That is a ridiculous statement. Those who voted against the proposal are probably the more responsible members of society who believe that public expenditure should be directed towards those most in need and not given out on a blanket basis . Steps have already been taken via amendments to the Universal Credit system to address the issue in addition to more local authority funding during the crisis for a variety of key areas . Any fool can vote for additional expenditure when it is not their money. At least those voting against the request are taking a responsible attitude. Maybe the issue to be addressed is how parents are spending their Universal Credit and child benefit . Help is available on an individual basis for those most in need " Quite right, how else can we afford to keep paying our struggling consultant class 6600 per day if we just waste money feeding hungry kids. | |||
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"Marcus rashford is playing an absolute blinder today..... he is going to end up shaming the tories into a u turn.... Why doesn’t Rashford give a weeks wages" He already does more than that. Are you offering to do this as well? | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. I'd put money that wont cost them 1 single voter. You could probably imagine tory voters justifcation for supporting this immoral act. Some will justify it, yes. See the old blame the poor excuse that was trotted out above. But I think, for others, this act will be the final step. I hope so, especially when the comparison is made to the billions handed out willy-nilly to companies run by mates, that have failed to deliver on their contracts. The number of cases the Good Law Project have on the go against the Government at the moment is shocking." Not to mention the very nice pay rise all mp’s are getting | |||
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"Rishi Sunak has been “barred for life” from a pub in his own constituency after ministers refused to back free school meals for poor children over Christmas. The Mill pub and its restaurant Il Mulino in North Yorkshire’s Stokesley will refuse entry to the chancellor and three northern Tory MPs – Jacob Young, Simon Clarke and Matt Vickers – after they voted down a motion to end holiday hunger amid the pandemic this winter." Maybe they shouldnt have voted them in? | |||
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"Marcus rashford is playing an absolute blinder today..... he is going to end up shaming the tories into a u turn.... Why doesn’t Rashford give a weeks wages" That's your solution? What about we make the investment firms that the Tories own pay tax, the likes of Somerset Capital Management. Which is more important, some meals for starving kids, or Rees-Mogg not paying tax? | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Why are they starving don't their parents feed them? Does your state not pay out money to the unemployed? It does, and that's where the difficulty begins. Many of those affected are actually (on paper at least) still employed. But with lockdowns being enforced businesses are having to shut up shop. Government assistance to those caught is not sufficient, particularly if your 100% wage was crap to start. " Not enough then so kids starving in the UK wow | |||
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"Marcus rashford is playing an absolute blinder today..... he is going to end up shaming the tories into a u turn.... Why doesn’t Rashford give a weeks wages That's your solution? What about we make the investment firms that the Tories own pay tax, the likes of Somerset Capital Management. Which is more important, some meals for starving kids, or Rees-Mogg not paying tax? Said it before and I'll say it again We haven't progressed since serfdom JRM wrote a book recently lamenting the loss of feudalism." Ha ha fuck off | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Why are they starving don't their parents feed them? Does your state not pay out money to the unemployed? It does, and that's where the difficulty begins. Many of those affected are actually (on paper at least) still employed. But with lockdowns being enforced businesses are having to shut up shop. Government assistance to those caught is not sufficient, particularly if your 100% wage was crap to start. Not enough then so kids starving in the UK wow " It’s the parents mostly that’s the problem not the state Like you have in the states we have parents who would rather by cable tv cigarettes and alcohol than feed their kids. The benefit money is tight so they can’t do both . | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Why are they starving don't their parents feed them? Does your state not pay out money to the unemployed? It does, and that's where the difficulty begins. Many of those affected are actually (on paper at least) still employed. But with lockdowns being enforced businesses are having to shut up shop. Government assistance to those caught is not sufficient, particularly if your 100% wage was crap to start. Not enough then so kids starving in the UK wow It’s the parents mostly that’s the problem not the state Like you have in the states we have parents who would rather by cable tv cigarettes and alcohol than feed their kids. The benefit money is tight so they can’t do both ." Clearly this could apply to some, but certainly not the vast majority. It is a tawdry trope used to bash the poor. If MPs can have a payrise Boris can spend £120m on a Brexit Festival and Failing Greyling can rent ferries from a company that has not boats - then looking after the poor should be easy! We haven’t even considered the £2bn ‘lost’ in paying furlough money to non existant employees. Don’t takeit out on the kids | |||
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"Look up Ben Bradley on twitter. He's managed to pour petrol on the fire. And I bet the Tories were hoping this would all go away quickly." If this thread is anything to go by. The average Tory voter doesn't have much empathy for starving kids and isn't going to stop voting for them. So they don't need to worry. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Why are they starving don't their parents feed them? Does your state not pay out money to the unemployed? It does, and that's where the difficulty begins. Many of those affected are actually (on paper at least) still employed. But with lockdowns being enforced businesses are having to shut up shop. Government assistance to those caught is not sufficient, particularly if your 100% wage was crap to start. Not enough then so kids starving in the UK wow It’s the parents mostly that’s the problem not the state Like you have in the states we have parents who would rather by cable tv cigarettes and alcohol than feed their kids. The benefit money is tight so they can’t do both . Clearly this could apply to some, but certainly not the vast majority. It is a tawdry trope used to bash the poor. If MPs can have a payrise Boris can spend £120m on a Brexit Festival and Failing Greyling can rent ferries from a company that has not boats - then looking after the poor should be easy! We haven’t even considered the £2bn ‘lost’ in paying furlough money to non existant employees. Don’t takeit out on the kids "I’m not bashing the poor. The majority of kids who are going hungry is because their parents don’t have a clue how to look after them combined with a lack of money. Low horizons and poor education. In some cases it’s just child abuse but I’m not qualified to talk on that and knowing the little I do I realise it’s just horrific. This government is showing it can beat all previous governments in wasting our money on friends and bullshit. I noted a comment earlier. We subsidise MP’s alcohol and food while they are supposedly at work but can’t agree to more money for hungry kids. ( I don’t care why they are hungry they are hungry today and so we should feed them and then deal with why) | |||
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"Look up Ben Bradley on twitter. He's managed to pour petrol on the fire. And I bet the Tories were hoping this would all go away quickly." He is the same idiot who said people on benefits should be sterilised | |||
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" If this thread is anything to go by. The average Tory voter doesn't have much empathy for starving kids and isn't going to stop voting for them. So they don't need to worry." That is exactly what the first response (about 25 metres up ^) said. And sadly, I suspect you are both right. But I do wish these conversations actually developed. And that people trimmed the quotes. </grump> | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them." I don't think there is call for this type of comment.  | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them." Superb! What next? A small sign on the front of their top so that we can recognise them. | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them." Have you voted conservative long? | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them. Have you voted conservative long? " Have you been unemployed long  | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them. Have you voted conservative long? Have you been unemployed long "Ha ha You are a little charmer aremt you? | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them. Have you voted conservative long? Have you been unemployed long
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"Another Tory mp had to apologise today after she tweeted "good to see all them business's helping to feed the kids that their business has picked up,so they will no longer require state help". Typical Tory mantra...if we cant starve the kids we will starve the people feeding them." In fairness. If they fed starving kids, they will have slightly less cash to give to their mates. | |||
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Calm down, calm down."Singer 1991 wants his Joke back | |||
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"If you can’t feed them, don’t breed them. Have you voted conservative long? Have you been unemployed long
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Wow
Did you just come up with that?
A career in comedy beckons.you are wasted on here.
Calm down, calm down.
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Wow
Did you just come up with that?
A career in comedy beckons.you are wasted on here.
Calm down, calm down.
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" Who are the real sick people in society? The ones who suffer? Or the ones who keep them suffering? Great question! That's a thread in itself. " Thanks! Its a question that no one asks. | |||
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"There is an online petition, for subsidising MP meals to stop. Bit of an eye opener for them." Tbf its probally for everyone who works there..not just the mps. | |||
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"There is an online petition, for subsidising MP meals to stop. Bit of an eye opener for them. Tbf its probally for everyone who works there..not just the mps." I think because most MP’s are not going to parliament we should put them on reduced wages also. Walk a mile in their constiuents shoes for a bit. | |||
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"There is an online petition, for subsidising MP meals to stop. Bit of an eye opener for them. Tbf its probally for everyone who works there..not just the mps. I think because most MP’s are not going to parliament we should put them on reduced wages also. Walk a mile in their constiuents shoes for a bit." Maybe not voting utter cumts into power for 5 years may be more effective. | |||
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"Another Tory mp had to apologise today after she tweeted "good to see all them business's helping to feed the kids that their business has picked up,so they will no longer require state help". Typical Tory mantra...if we cant starve the kids we will starve the people feeding them." I saw that. Her name's Saxby. Every time I think I've heard the scummiest thing possible from a Tory, another 1 pops up to say something equally awful or worse. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Obviously, because they're Tories. It's in their nature; to set aside morality. This morning, they're under more pressure to change their minds - yet again. They might - but don't expect that to fundamentally change what they really are. By their deeds shall ye know them." Starving children??? Lets get real what the government is doing is not extending free school meal for school holidays. But what you need to ask is what has happened to the extra welfare money giving to Labour controlled areas, by the government to support vulnerable families. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Obviously, because they're Tories. It's in their nature; to set aside morality. This morning, they're under more pressure to change their minds - yet again. They might - but don't expect that to fundamentally change what they really are. By their deeds shall ye know them. Starving children??? Lets get real what the government is doing is not extending free school meal for school holidays. But what you need to ask is what has happened to the extra welfare money giving to Labour controlled areas, by the government to support vulnerable families. " Or you could ask why the Tories are giving their mates hundreds of millions of pounds? | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Obviously, because they're Tories. It's in their nature; to set aside morality. This morning, they're under more pressure to change their minds - yet again. They might - but don't expect that to fundamentally change what they really are. By their deeds shall ye know them. Starving children??? Lets get real what the government is doing is not extending free school meal for school holidays. But what you need to ask is what has happened to the extra welfare money giving to Labour controlled areas, by the government to support vulnerable families. What extra welfare money?" Oh no not you again, giz a job. Hows the fishing going? | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Obviously, because they're Tories. It's in their nature; to set aside morality. This morning, they're under more pressure to change their minds - yet again. They might - but don't expect that to fundamentally change what they really are. By their deeds shall ye know them. Starving children??? Lets get real what the government is doing is not extending free school meal for school holidays. But what you need to ask is what has happened to the extra welfare money giving to Labour controlled areas, by the government to support vulnerable families. What extra welfare money? Oh no not you again, giz a job. Hows the fishing going? " A grown up response. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Obviously, because they're Tories. It's in their nature; to set aside morality. This morning, they're under more pressure to change their minds - yet again. They might - but don't expect that to fundamentally change what they really are. By their deeds shall ye know them. Starving children??? Lets get real what the government is doing is not extending free school meal for school holidays. But what you need to ask is what has happened to the extra welfare money giving to Labour controlled areas, by the government to support vulnerable families. Or you could ask why the Tories are giving their mates hundreds of millions of pounds? veStarving children??? If your so concerned a child wefare why do you support a party that allowed thousands of children to be groomed and sexually abused??? Just asking where your true moral compass is. And when did this happen exactly?" Jokes aside seriously???don’t come on forums if you don’t know the political history and background of people your defending. | |||
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"Seriously, why did the Tories vote to deny starving kids food? Even if you set aside morality, they must have been able to see how incredibly unpopular this would be. Obviously, because they're Tories. It's in their nature; to set aside morality. This morning, they're under more pressure to change their minds - yet again. They might - but don't expect that to fundamentally change what they really are. By their deeds shall ye know them. Starving children??? Lets get real what the government is doing is not extending free school meal for school holidays. But what you need to ask is what has happened to the extra welfare money giving to Labour controlled areas, by the government to support vulnerable families. Or you could ask why the Tories are giving their mates hundreds of millions of pounds? veStarving children??? If your so concerned a child wefare why do you support a party that allowed thousands of children to be groomed and sexually abused??? Just asking where your true moral compass is. And when did this happen exactly? Jokes aside seriously???don’t come on forums if you don’t know the political history and background of people your defending. " Please tell me when this large scale child abuse happened? | |||
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" veStarving children??? If your so concerned a child wefare why do you support a party that allowed thousands of children to be groomed and sexually abused??? Just asking where your true moral compass is. see... that is called.. bait and switch... can't answer the question... switch the topic! so lets put some figures on it.... amount it would cost the government to pay for the free school meals.... £20 million amount the government gave out during "eat out to help out"...... £522 million so.... priorities? does making loopholes for the likes of wetherspoons and his buddies worth the twenty million it would cost to feed the kids?" I wanna hear about why the labour party allowed widespread child abuse to happen Was it when they knighted Jimmy saville? That was labour wasnt it? | |||
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" veStarving children??? If your so concerned a child wefare why do you support a party that allowed thousands of children to be groomed and sexually abused??? Just asking where your true moral compass is. see... that is called.. bait and switch... can't answer the question... switch the topic! so lets put some figures on it.... amount it would cost the government to pay for the free school meals.... £20 million amount the government gave out during "eat out to help out"...... £522 million so.... priorities? does making loopholes for the likes of wetherspoons and his buddies worth the twenty million it would cost to feed the kids?" That was far too hard for him to answer | |||
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