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"This is doing my head in..... Can we just call it what it is..... no deal... You keep trying to shine the “no deal” turd by calling it other things! The WTO deal..... the bespoke deal... the bespoke arrangement.... and now the Australia style deal! If the Australia style deal was so good... why are the bloody Aussies negotiating a new deal with the eu.... Stop polishing the turd.... the turd is still a turd! "  | |||
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"We were always heading for a no deal in my opinion. Which begs the question how much money and time we have wasted. " About £200 billion, | |||
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"The negotiations arnt over yet ppl are jumping the gun again chill out only a few weeks to wait lol" Hold on, Boris has just told us to prepare for a no deal? Why would he do that? | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. " Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? | |||
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"It is now obvious that there will be no, no deal, despite his bluster boris and his puppet masters are terrified of a no deal scenario, all deadlines pass with the UK side bluff being called,all the dealines have passed with the UK comprising on there red lines, of course the canny eu know all this, they have been negotiating with far bigger players than the ukfor the last 60 years, before xmas the eu will get everything they want, and the UK will become just another economic vassal state like Norway or Switzerland, history will be much kinder to Teresa may when in a few years it will become apparent that the deal offered to her was the best that any British prime minister could possibly have gotten from the EU, " so the U.K. have a no deal and the eu have gotten everything they want how does that work then why are the eu even bothering to turn up for talks ? You do know nothing has happened yet tho I’m just playing along lol | |||
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"It is now obvious that there will be no, no deal, despite his bluster boris and his puppet masters are terrified of a no deal scenario, all deadlines pass with the UK side bluff being called,all the dealines have passed with the UK comprising on there red lines, of course the canny eu know all this, they have been negotiating with far bigger players than the ukfor the last 60 years, before xmas the eu will get everything they want, and the UK will become just another economic vassal state like Norway or Switzerland, history will be much kinder to Teresa may when in a few years it will become apparent that the deal offered to her was the best that any British prime minister could possibly have gotten from the EU, " | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? " Nothing to do with boris or this deal I'm talking every EU deal ever. All these bureaucrats love their moment in the lime light | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? Nothing to do with boris or this deal I'm talking every EU deal ever. All these bureaucrats love their moment in the lime light" I see, so it’s only the EU that ramp up the expenses? Tbh , Brexit will have cost the UK £200 billion but my the end of the year, a few million on hotels and food won’t make much difference | |||
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"still time... now the ball is back in the EU court. " Do you want the Boris deal or a no deal? I am struggling to work out what Brexit voters want these days | |||
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"still time... now the ball is back in the EU court. Do you want the Boris deal or a no deal? I am struggling to work out what Brexit voters want these days "They want what they're always wanted. Unicorns shitting rainbows. | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. " no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol" It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again | |||
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"still time... now the ball is back in the EU court. Do you want the Boris deal or a no deal? I am struggling to work out what Brexit voters want these days
They want what they're always wanted. Unicorns shitting rainbows."Freedom and sovereignty, innit | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again " like I say a few weeks we will all know at this time yr just guessing | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again like I say a few weeks we will all know at this time yr just guessing " I am not the one guessing, I am getting my information from respected news sources, I know one thing for certain, we won’t be getting an easy deal | |||
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"The negotiations arnt over yet ppl are jumping the gun again chill out only a few weeks to wait lol Hold on, Boris has just told us to prepare for a no deal? Why would he do that? " 2.5 months before leaving EU, a clown calls us to prepare for a no deal? He proved once again how big idiot he is. | |||
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"Maybe they're calling it the Australia style deal because we might end up resembling the world of Mad Max?" Anything is possible with such a great Government | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again like I say a few weeks we will all know at this time yr just guessing I am not the one guessing, I am getting my information from respected news sources, I know one thing for certain, we won’t be getting an easy deal "so come on then are you going to say we are defiantly getting a no deal ? | |||
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"The negotiations arnt over yet ppl are jumping the gun again chill out only a few weeks to wait lol Hold on, Boris has just told us to prepare for a no deal? Why would he do that? 2.5 months before leaving EU, a clown calls us to prepare for a no deal? He proved once again how big idiot he is. " Wait, what happened to his old oven ready deal? There have been so many lies by this point, I'm losing track. | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again like I say a few weeks we will all know at this time yr just guessing I am not the one guessing, I am getting my information from respected news sources, I know one thing for certain, we won’t be getting an easy deal so come on then are you going to say we are defiantly getting a no deal ?"It is far more likely that we are going to get a no deal then get a great deal, btw, which do you prefer, the Boris deal or a no deal? | |||
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"still time... now the ball is back in the EU court. Do you want the Boris deal or a no deal? I am struggling to work out what Brexit voters want these days
They want what they're always wanted. Unicorns shitting rainbows." | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again like I say a few weeks we will all know at this time yr just guessing I am not the one guessing, I am getting my information from respected news sources, I know one thing for certain, we won’t be getting an easy deal so come on then are you going to say we are defiantly getting a no deal ?
It is far more likely that we are going to get a no deal then get a great deal, btw, which do you prefer, the Boris deal or a no deal? "the Boris deal and that’s what I think we will get still can’t see a no deal as both sides don’t want that but it will probs be an 11hr as always | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol It economically hurts every one involved, if Boris’s announcement today was another bluff he needs to try a different tactic because it won’t work, again like I say a few weeks we will all know at this time yr just guessing I am not the one guessing, I am getting my information from respected news sources, I know one thing for certain, we won’t be getting an easy deal so come on then are you going to say we are defiantly getting a no deal ?
It is far more likely that we are going to get a no deal then get a great deal, btw, which do you prefer, the Boris deal or a no deal? the Boris deal and that’s what I think we will get still can’t see a no deal as both sides don’t want that but it will probs be an 11hr as always "Fair enough, what is it about the Boris deal that you like? There seems to be a divide between Brexit voters though, some think a no deal is the best option and that is what they wanted all along  | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? Nothing to do with boris or this deal I'm talking every EU deal ever. All these bureaucrats love their moment in the lime light I see, so it’s only the EU that ramp up the expenses? Tbh , Brexit will have cost the UK £200 billion but my the end of the year, a few million on hotels and food won’t make much difference " Of course it was EU bureaucrats as up till 2016 all deals within the eu have been ALL eu bureaucrats, some of them have been brits of course now we are on the opposite side instead of being in the club and involved with the internal horse trading.. Got to laugh at the 200 billion figures how many times have remoaners dished thec350 million figure but of course the 200 billion is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and they call leave voters gullible and thick | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? Nothing to do with boris or this deal I'm talking every EU deal ever. All these bureaucrats love their moment in the lime light I see, so it’s only the EU that ramp up the expenses? Tbh , Brexit will have cost the UK £200 billion but my the end of the year, a few million on hotels and food won’t make much difference Of course it was EU bureaucrats as up till 2016 all deals within the eu have been ALL eu bureaucrats, some of them have been brits of course now we are on the opposite side instead of being in the club and involved with the internal horse trading.. Got to laugh at the 200 billion figures how many times have remoaners dished thec350 million figure but of course the 200 billion is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and they call leave voters gullible and thick" I read that all aloud in 1 breath. I woke up on the floor with a bloody forehead. | |||
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"We were always heading for a no deal in my opinion. Which begs the question how much money and time we have wasted. About £200 billion, "The cost to the taxpayer is irrelevant. It's always been about how much Johnson's hedge fund backers make when the pound collapses on the back of a no deal. | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol" Have you heard of the word ‘they’ and have you ever wondered why you never use it? | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? Nothing to do with boris or this deal I'm talking every EU deal ever. All these bureaucrats love their moment in the lime light I see, so it’s only the EU that ramp up the expenses? Tbh , Brexit will have cost the UK £200 billion but my the end of the year, a few million on hotels and food won’t make much difference Of course it was EU bureaucrats as up till 2016 all deals within the eu have been ALL eu bureaucrats, some of them have been brits of course now we are on the opposite side instead of being in the club and involved with the internal horse trading.. Got to laugh at the 200 billion figures how many times have remoaners dished thec350 million figure but of course the 200 billion is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and they call leave voters gullible and thick I read that all aloud in 1 breath. I woke up on the floor with a bloody forehead." | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol Have you heard of the word ‘they’ and have you ever wondered why you never use it? " there ya go pulling me up on me grammar again can I ask what do you get out of that then ? are you that shallow that you get a buzz out of it you just look like a wanker get a grip mate ffs | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol Have you heard of the word ‘they’ and have you ever wondered why you never use it? there ya go pulling me up on me grammar again can I ask what do you get out of that then ? are you that shallow that you get a buzz out of it you just look like a wanker get a grip mate ffs " Why don’t you try to sort it out instead of insulting me. Surely you must have heard of the word ‘they’? Make an effort instead of throwing your toys out of the pram! | |||
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"Doesn't a "no deal" really hurt the Irish? Lets see if any noise comes out of Dublin over the weekend briefings. no it only hurts the British the eu are only turning up for talks out of boredom as there’s nothing to worry about over there there doing great lol Have you heard of the word ‘they’ and have you ever wondered why you never use it? there ya go pulling me up on me grammar again can I ask what do you get out of that then ? are you that shallow that you get a buzz out of it you just look like a wanker get a grip mate ffs Why don’t you try to sort it out instead of insulting me. Surely you must have heard of the word ‘they’? Make an effort instead of throwing your toys out of the pram!" I write how I talk if I offends you that much don’t read it it’s simple you apolagized on here a few weeks ago for comeing across as arrogant woth yr posts seems you just can’t help yrself | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. " looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol"  | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol" You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol" Probably the first time I’ve ever used this word in any of my posts so you probably have an issue with the word ‘obsessed’ You probably don’t understand what it means either. Instead of throwing your toys out of the pram (second time), try to focus on the content in the message and tell us how your spaghetti is shaping up. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this "i did I was just pointing out how obsessed he seems with cock lol | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this "Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. "Sad but true | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol Probably the first time I’ve ever used this word in any of my posts so you probably have an issue with the word ‘obsessed’ You probably don’t understand what it means either. Instead of throwing your toys out of the pram (second time), try to focus on the content in the message and tell us how your spaghetti is shaping up. " same back mate instead of you going on about my grammar and spelling focus on the post btw I loved your post it made me laugh lol | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this i did I was just pointing out how obsessed he seems with cock lol"Yes of course | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. "so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ? | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ? "Should I stay or should I go | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go "maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol | |||
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"I would wager Boris is blustering before he backs down." Maybe. But it also feels like they've been pushing towards no deal for ages. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ? "We’ve already had that debate. I struggle to understand how somebody who doesn’t understand the word ‘they’can be a specialist on the ECJ or a no deal brexit. I gave you the example of a person trying to build a rocket but who doesn’t know his times tables. I can’t be clearer than this. There’s nothing arrogant about this. It’s just the sad truth. I don’t disrespect people who can’t spell the words ‘they’re’. I’m just saying that it makes them less credible when they write or talk about things as complex as Brexit or politics. It’s much easier to tell me that I’m insulting you ( which I am not) than fixing the problem. Maybe you should take 10 minutes to fix it. It’s really simple. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol"No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. "lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol"ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on this forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racist people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol
Ah ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on the political forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racists people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... "voted labour all me life except the last ge when I voted Tory for Brexit reasons like millions of others in the north and no need to bring bnp edl and racist into this don’t tar me woth that brush yr better than that | |||
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"No eu deal has been done until just past the deadline, why waste all those first class suites in swanky hotels eating 5 star food all on tax payers money. Because Boris and his cronies wont stay in cheap hotels?? Nothing to do with boris or this deal I'm talking every EU deal ever. All these bureaucrats love their moment in the lime light I see, so it’s only the EU that ramp up the expenses? Tbh , Brexit will have cost the UK £200 billion but my the end of the year, a few million on hotels and food won’t make much difference Of course it was EU bureaucrats as up till 2016 all deals within the eu have been ALL eu bureaucrats, some of them have been brits of course now we are on the opposite side instead of being in the club and involved with the internal horse trading.. Got to laugh at the 200 billion figures how many times have remoaners dished thec350 million figure but of course the 200 billion is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and they call leave voters gullible and thick" If the cap fits.. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol
Ah ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on the political forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racists people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... voted labour all me life except the last ge when I voted Tory for Brexit reasons like millions of others in the north and no need to bring bnp edl and racist into this don’t tar me woth that brush yr better than that "I’m not saying you’re a racist but effectively you voted in the same way as them.... Why do you think that is? | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol
Ah ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on the political forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racists people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... voted labour all me life except the last ge when I voted Tory for Brexit reasons like millions of others in the north and no need to bring bnp edl and racist into this don’t tar me woth that brush yr better than that
I’m not saying you’re a racist but effectively you voted in the same way as them.... Why do you think that is? "I’m sure there was racists who voted leave just like there was that voted remain you could easily of done yr post woth out even mentioning bnp edl amd racists why do you think you dine that then ? | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol
Ah ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on the political forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racists people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... voted labour all me life except the last ge when I voted Tory for Brexit reasons like millions of others in the north and no need to bring bnp edl and racist into this don’t tar me woth that brush yr better than that
I’m not saying you’re a racist but effectively you voted in the same way as them.... Why do you think that is? I’m sure there was racists who voted leave just like there was that voted remain you could easily of done yr post woth out even mentioning bnp edl amd racists why do you think you dine that then ?"I very much doubt that anyone racist will have voted ‘remain’ in the referendum. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol
Ah ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on the political forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racists people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... voted labour all me life except the last ge when I voted Tory for Brexit reasons like millions of others in the north and no need to bring bnp edl and racist into this don’t tar me woth that brush yr better than that
I’m not saying you’re a racist but effectively you voted in the same way as them.... Why do you think that is? I’m sure there was racists who voted leave just like there was that voted remain you could easily of done yr post woth out even mentioning bnp edl amd racists why do you think you dine that then ?
I very much doubt that anyone racist will have voted ‘remain’ in the referendum. "really so no racist voted remain just leave these leave voters who are racist leaving the eu which is mainly all white country’s and opening up to more country’s from Asia Africa south America have shit in there own nest then haven’t they lol | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No, like a proper Tory, you should try to better yourself. Don’t expect any empathy or pity from other people. Take the matter into your own hands. Sort it yourself. That’s what your idol miss Maggie would tell you. lmao I’m a labour supporter mate Maggie isn’t anyone’s idol in the northeast better myself iv dine very well for myself thank you better grammar won’t alter my life one jot how do you think it would change my life lol
Ah ok, so you’re a labour supporter who sounds like a Tory on the political forum. I struggle to see what’s labour about you. You’re another one of those labour voters who was on the same side as the most racists people in this country when voting for brexit. It’s probably the first time in your life that you voted in the same way as the EDL, the BNP etc... voted labour all me life except the last ge when I voted Tory for Brexit reasons like millions of others in the north and no need to bring bnp edl and racist into this don’t tar me woth that brush yr better than that
I’m not saying you’re a racist but effectively you voted in the same way as them.... Why do you think that is? I’m sure there was racists who voted leave just like there was that voted remain you could easily of done yr post woth out even mentioning bnp edl amd racists why do you think you dine that then ?
I very much doubt that anyone racist will have voted ‘remain’ in the referendum. really so no racist voted remain just leave these leave voters who are racist leaving the eu which is mainly all white country’s and opening up to more country’s from Asia Africa south America have shit in there own nest then haven’t they lol"Is there a different situation in the UK with "shit in own nest?" | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead. "Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”... | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”..."I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse. | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse. "Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point . Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”? | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
Actually, it shouldn't. I suggest you read the thread and my post again ... carefully."Ah ok... So your first paragraph ” Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying” is completely disingenuous.. Your second paragraph essentially says because spelling and grammar are poor the person has lesser credibility with the point they are making...  | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
Actually, it shouldn't. I suggest you read the thread and my post again ... carefully.
Ah ok... So your first paragraph ” Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying” is completely disingenuous..
Your second paragraph essentially says because spelling and grammar are poor the person has lesser credibility with the point they are making...
"Nope, but I'll let you have the last word, because I know it will make you feel superior and I'm magnanimous like that. Whether or not others will share your opinion? I'll leave it to them to decide. | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
Actually, it shouldn't. I suggest you read the thread and my post again ... carefully.
Ah ok... So your first paragraph ” Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying” is completely disingenuous..
Your second paragraph essentially says because spelling and grammar are poor the person has lesser credibility with the point they are making...
Nope, but I'll let you have the last word, because I know it will make you feel superior and I'm magnanimous like that.
Whether or not others will share your opinion? I'll leave it to them to decide. "I only asked as it was a good point you were making in the first paragraph... | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
Actually, it shouldn't. I suggest you read the thread and my post again ... carefully.
Ah ok... So your first paragraph ” Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying” is completely disingenuous..
Your second paragraph essentially says because spelling and grammar are poor the person has lesser credibility with the point they are making...
Nope, but I'll let you have the last word, because I know it will make you feel superior and I'm magnanimous like that.
Whether or not others will share your opinion? I'll leave it to them to decide. "don’t let them get to ya it’s all they’ve got really makes them feel big like iv said before it’s never held me back iv done well in life I wonder if there superior grammar as done so well for them | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
Actually, it shouldn't. I suggest you read the thread and my post again ... carefully.
Ah ok... So your first paragraph ” Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying” is completely disingenuous..
Your second paragraph essentially says because spelling and grammar are poor the person has lesser credibility with the point they are making...
Nope, but I'll let you have the last word, because I know it will make you feel superior and I'm magnanimous like that.
Whether or not others will share your opinion? I'll leave it to them to decide. don’t let them get to ya it’s all they’ve got really makes them feel big like iv said before it’s never held me back iv done well in life I wonder if there superior grammar as done so well for them "I agree ... and your points and opinions are definitely not less credible.
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"This is doing my head in..... Can we just call it what it is..... no deal... You keep trying to shine the “no deal” turd by calling it other things! The WTO deal..... the bespoke deal... the bespoke arrangement.... and now the Australia style deal! If the Australia style deal was so good... why are the bloody Aussies negotiating a new deal with the eu.... Stop polishing the turd.... the turd is still a turd! " Nothing has changed since 2016. A large part of the leave movement was always based on meaningless, and misleading catchphrases. "Take back control" "£350 million a week for the NHS" "We want our country back" "Believe in Britain" "Get brexit done" "Easiest deal on history" "sovereignty arrrhhhh!" "Norway style deal" Etc etc. Just more of the same shit. | |||
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"This is doing my head in..... Can we just call it what it is..... no deal... You keep trying to shine the “no deal” turd by calling it other things! The WTO deal..... the bespoke deal... the bespoke arrangement.... and now the Australia style deal! If the Australia style deal was so good... why are the bloody Aussies negotiating a new deal with the eu.... Stop polishing the turd.... the turd is still a turd! Nothing has changed since 2016. A large part of the leave movement was always based on meaningless, and misleading catchphrases. "Take back control" "£350 million a week for the NHS" "We want our country back" "Believe in Britain" "Get brexit done" "Easiest deal on history" "sovereignty arrrhhhh!" "Norway style deal" Etc etc. Just more of the same shit." exactly bit like this post same shit different day lol | |||
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"This is doing my head in..... Can we just call it what it is..... no deal... You keep trying to shine the “no deal” turd by calling it other things! The WTO deal..... the bespoke deal... the bespoke arrangement.... and now the Australia style deal! If the Australia style deal was so good... why are the bloody Aussies negotiating a new deal with the eu.... Stop polishing the turd.... the turd is still a turd! Nothing has changed since 2016. A large part of the leave movement was always based on meaningless, and misleading catchphrases. "Take back control" "£350 million a week for the NHS" "We want our country back" "Believe in Britain" "Get brexit done" "Easiest deal on history" "sovereignty arrrhhhh!" "Norway style deal" Etc etc. Just more of the same shit.exactly bit like this post same shit different day lol"
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"Johnson isn't a fool. He needs a deal, and the price of no deal is simply too high to pay. No trade deal with the EU or the US and then the WTO trade rules is far from sunlit uplands Lets add in the economic fallout from Covid and the reputational damage for the UK from reneging on an international treaty. I really think this is just setting the stage to sell the deal he will have to accept. " The only thing I'd question in your post, is the statement that Johnson isn't it fool. The rest of it is spot on. | |||
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"Johnson isn't a fool. He needs a deal, and the price of no deal is simply too high to pay. No trade deal with the EU or the US and then the WTO trade rules is far from sunlit uplands Lets add in the economic fallout from Covid and the reputational damage for the UK from reneging on an international treaty. I really think this is just setting the stage to sell the deal he will have to accept. " This is an interesting point of view. I don't think Johnson cares about a deal. He's achieved what he wanted "getting brexit done". Anything else is superfluous to him. | |||
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"This is doing my head in..... Can we just call it what it is..... no deal... You keep trying to shine the “no deal” turd by calling it other things! The WTO deal..... the bespoke deal... the bespoke arrangement.... and now the Australia style deal! If the Australia style deal was so good... why are the bloody Aussies negotiating a new deal with the eu.... Stop polishing the turd.... the turd is still a turd! Nothing has changed since 2016. A large part of the leave movement was always based on meaningless, and misleading catchphrases. "Take back control" "£350 million a week for the NHS" "We want our country back" "Believe in Britain" "Get brexit done" "Easiest deal on history" "sovereignty arrrhhhh!" "Norway style deal" Etc etc. Just more of the same shit." The was never a catch phase with the words '£350 million a week for the NHS' | |||
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"Johnson isn't a fool. He needs a deal, and the price of no deal is simply too high to pay. No trade deal with the EU or the US and then the WTO trade rules is far from sunlit uplands Lets add in the economic fallout from Covid and the reputational damage for the UK from reneging on an international treaty. I really think this is just setting the stage to sell the deal he will have to accept. This is an interesting point of view. I don't think Johnson cares about a deal. He's achieved what he wanted "getting brexit done". Anything else is superfluous to him." Bumbling Boris is a role he plays, but that is not who he is. I think he treats the UK electorate like fools. Wait and watch Boris snatch victory from the jaws on a disastrous outcome. | |||
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"Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying.
As someone has already pointed out, poor grammar and spelling are enough in themselves to diminish the author's point, so please, instead of attacking a poster personally, attack their message instead.
Hoping there is a typo in there and it should be ”are not”...
I'm not the grammar nazi, and I don't claim that my spelling and grammar are perfect. I don't really care if there is a typo, as I'm simply pointing something out, and not trying to be a smartarse.
Yes I know that - but you start by saying grammar and spelling would not be called out - it's bullying... But you then go on to say that bad spelling as grammar are enough to diminish the posters point .
Surely that should be ”bad spelling and grammer are not enough to diminish the posters point ”?
Actually, it shouldn't. I suggest you read the thread and my post again ... carefully.
Ah ok... So your first paragraph ” Spelling and grammar are not everyone's forte, and mocking people who are poor at both could be classed as a form of bullying” is completely disingenuous..
Your second paragraph essentially says because spelling and grammar are poor the person has lesser credibility with the point they are making...
Nope, but I'll let you have the last word, because I know it will make you feel superior and I'm magnanimous like that.
Whether or not others will share your opinion? I'll leave it to them to decide. don’t let them get to ya it’s all they’ve got really makes them feel big like iv said before it’s never held me back iv done well in life I wonder if there superior grammar as done so well for them " no idea why some feel the need to point out grammar errors but glad to see its not stopping you post your opinion which is just as valuable as everyone else's. | |||
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"Johnson isn't a fool. He needs a deal, and the price of no deal is simply too high to pay. No trade deal with the EU or the US and then the WTO trade rules is far from sunlit uplands Lets add in the economic fallout from Covid and the reputational damage for the UK from reneging on an international treaty. I really think this is just setting the stage to sell the deal he will have to accept. This is an interesting point of view. I don't think Johnson cares about a deal. He's achieved what he wanted "getting brexit done". Anything else is superfluous to him. Bumbling Boris is a role he plays, but that is not who he is. I think he treats the UK electorate like fools. Wait and watch Boris snatch victory from the jaws on a disastrous outcome. " What do you mean? Boris already has what he wants. He's PM. Has Brexit. Shit deal or no deal is irrelevant. The broad aim of transferring wealth and power from the people to the ruling classes has been achieved. Job done. I agree that he treats the electorate as fools though. | |||
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"Johnson isn't a fool. He needs a deal, and the price of no deal is simply too high to pay. No trade deal with the EU or the US and then the WTO trade rules is far from sunlit uplands Lets add in the economic fallout from Covid and the reputational damage for the UK from reneging on an international treaty. I really think this is just setting the stage to sell the deal he will have to accept. This is an interesting point of view. I don't think Johnson cares about a deal. He's achieved what he wanted "getting brexit done". Anything else is superfluous to him. Bumbling Boris is a role he plays, but that is not who he is. I think he treats the UK electorate like fools. Wait and watch Boris snatch victory from the jaws on a disastrous outcome. What do you mean? Boris already has what he wants. He's PM. Has Brexit. Shit deal or no deal is irrelevant. The broad aim of transferring wealth and power from the people to the ruling classes has been achieved. Job done. I agree that he treats the electorate as fools though." Johnson's negotiation tactic is to point the revolver at his own head. Threatening to collapse the talks for the benefit of the British fishing industry (0.12% of UK GDP is laughable. If Johnson is serious in his threats the outcome for the UK is very negative. John Hume (RIP) was known for saying 'you can't eat a flag'. Johnson might sell the nationalist brexit dream to England, but the reality will be very ugly. A no deal outcome will leave sides with a bloody nose, but the UK will have a concussion as well. I still think he is trying to appear resolute and a tough negotiator to the EU and for a domestic audience but he needs a deal and pursuing a no deal is political and economic suicide. | |||
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"Johnson isn't a fool. He needs a deal, and the price of no deal is simply too high to pay. No trade deal with the EU or the US and then the WTO trade rules is far from sunlit uplands Lets add in the economic fallout from Covid and the reputational damage for the UK from reneging on an international treaty. I really think this is just setting the stage to sell the deal he will have to accept. This is an interesting point of view. I don't think Johnson cares about a deal. He's achieved what he wanted "getting brexit done". Anything else is superfluous to him. Bumbling Boris is a role he plays, but that is not who he is. I think he treats the UK electorate like fools. Wait and watch Boris snatch victory from the jaws on a disastrous outcome. What do you mean? Boris already has what he wants. He's PM. Has Brexit. Shit deal or no deal is irrelevant. The broad aim of transferring wealth and power from the people to the ruling classes has been achieved. Job done. I agree that he treats the electorate as fools though. Johnson's negotiation tactic is to point the revolver at his own head. Threatening to collapse the talks for the benefit of the British fishing industry (0.12% of UK GDP is laughable. If Johnson is serious in his threats the outcome for the UK is very negative. John Hume (RIP) was known for saying 'you can't eat a flag'. Johnson might sell the nationalist brexit dream to England, but the reality will be very ugly. A no deal outcome will leave sides with a bloody nose, but the UK will have a concussion as well. I still think he is trying to appear resolute and a tough negotiator to the EU and for a domestic audience but he needs a deal and pursuing a no deal is political and economic suicide. " I honestly don't think he's interested either way. Makes no odds to him if there is some kind of shitty deal or if we just end up begging for scraps from Mongolia, Zimbabwe etc. He has no motivation to care either way. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care ." Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care ." Yes agreed. It makes perfect sense to stick to something the EU have been telling us is not possible. They have been consistent since the start. It doesn’t prevent the tories to tell us that it’s the EU’s fault if we are where we are. There are only two options. Either we stick to the unicorns and it’s no deal or we compromise. No deal would be bad economically. It would be perfect politically. It could be the end of the Tory party for 25 years at least. Bring it on. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way." He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... " So you're suggesting he's willing to further fuck the country just to save face within he party? I wouldn't put it past him. But I can't see "giving way to the EU" would effect the electorate in any way. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... " What does he have to lose? I thought Australia didn't have a trade deal with the eu? | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... What does he have to lose? I thought Australia didn't have a trade deal with the eu?" Sounds good though, way better than saying no deal. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... What does he have to lose? I thought Australia didn't have a trade deal with the eu?" They don't have a full on trade deal. Instead they have a series of small deals and agreements from the bits I read | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care ." If Boris believes. I'm not sure he does believe actually. He's an opportunist, who decided that backing leave would be more beneficial to Boris. All his tough guy posturing has achieved is to paint himself into a corner. He needs a deal or it's economic suicide and the fallout could well bring down his government, but if he backs down to the EU any further he loses face with his party and his days as leader are numbered. Hobson's choice really, but he's brought it on himself. Of course he could go for no deal and then resign in February citing long Covid. Wander off into the sunset with all the money he and his pals have siphoned off in tenders to shell companies and live happily ever after, whilst we all deal with the consequences. I wouldn't put it past him. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... What does he have to lose? I thought Australia didn't have a trade deal with the eu? They don't have a full on trade deal. Instead they have a series of small deals and agreements from the bits I read" So..once again he is talking out of his arse? I read they were in the process of renegotiating with the eu. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . If Boris believes. I'm not sure he does believe actually. He's an opportunist, who decided that backing leave would be more beneficial to Boris. All his tough guy posturing has achieved is to paint himself into a corner. He needs a deal or it's economic suicide and the fallout could well bring down his government, but if he backs down to the EU any further he loses face with his party and his days as leader are numbered. Hobson's choice really, but he's brought it on himself. Of course he could go for no deal and then resign in February citing long Covid. Wander off into the sunset with all the money he and his pals have siphoned off in tenders to shell companies and live happily ever after, whilst we all deal with the consequences. I wouldn't put it past him." I think there is a big faction of the Tory party behind him (those erg cranks) There is probally a powerful lobby in the background aswell who have wanted a no deal all along. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... What does he have to lose? I thought Australia didn't have a trade deal with the eu? They don't have a full on trade deal. Instead they have a series of small deals and agreements from the bits I read So..once again he is talking out of his arse? I read they were in the process of renegotiating with the eu." Again only read a little on this. They are negotiating a full trade deal or at least in the process. This would of course replace the lots of small deals. | |||
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"Are we suggesting he would go down the no deal route simply because he dosn't care ? Surely by standing firm in what he believes does by its very nature prove he is committed and does care . Standing firm by the deal he originally voted against, then voted for, then changed at the last moment? But seriously, why would he care? He's got nothing much to win or lose either way. He has much to lose if he gives way to the eu - Party and electorate. Unless the eu come back to the table we will be on Australia trade terms with the eu... What does he have to lose? I thought Australia didn't have a trade deal with the eu? They don't have a full on trade deal. Instead they have a series of small deals and agreements from the bits I read So..once again he is talking out of his arse? I read they were in the process of renegotiating with the eu. Again only read a little on this. They are negotiating a full trade deal or at least in the process. This would of course replace the lots of small deals. " There is a draft legal text for the deal - most of which there is agreement . the 2 points where there is no agreement: Fishing and state aid rules. | |||
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"Sounds like you lot voted to shit on your bead and once you had shit on your bead you are complaining your bed is shitty and smelly. "Im not complaining at all mate just putting it out there why it was always going to be impossible to get a deal and a perfect example of why im glad we have left. I would think there are a few member states who will be pissed off with no deal because napoleon needs votes. | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol"No. But brexshit voters should be tested for intelligence and sobriety | |||
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"Brexit has always been about trying to show the world that we have a bigger cock than everybody else. That’s the only thing that matters. Brexiters have never given a toss about the financial or political consequences of their fantasies. And we know that people who brag about having a big cock are often the ones who have the smallest bean in their boxer shorts, like the brexiters. Little England with its small cock is trying to tell 27 other countries that it should be given what our brexiters cry babies want and demand. Well, it looks like the easiest and oven ready deal was like everything else in the brexit world: Bullshit and arrogance. It’ll soon be time to look at the small spaghetti in your pants and land on planet Earth. looks like you have a cock size complex mate your obsessed with cock lol You did not understand the irony and the message in this post. I'm not surprised by this
Irony? He doesn’t do words that contain more than four letters. so my grammar and spelling is poor does that mean I shouldn’t be in this forum then ?
Should I stay or should I go maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to vote either I should no my place lol
No. But brexshit voters should be tested for intelligence and sobriety "aw lovely post by you again lol | |||
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"Macron is well down in the polls his opponent in the next election comes from a fishing region he will never agree to fishing concessions so thats it no deal, he only cares about his self not 27 member states " How much is the fishing industry worth to our economy, it must be tens of billions ?? | |||
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"Sounds like you lot voted to shit on your bead and once you had shit on your bead you are complaining your bed is shitty and smelly. Im not complaining at all mate just putting it out there why it was always going to be impossible to get a deal and a perfect example of why im glad we have left. I would think there are a few member states who will be pissed off with no deal because napoleon needs votes. "I think they will be more pissed of with the Yeti | |||
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"Macron is well down in the polls his opponent in the next election comes from a fishing region he will never agree to fishing concessions so thats it no deal, he only cares about his self not 27 member states How much is the fishing industry worth to our economy, it must be tens of billions ?? " UK fishing industry is worth 0.12% of GDP. Approx £600 million. | |||
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"Macron is well down in the polls his opponent in the next election comes from a fishing region he will never agree to fishing concessions so thats it no deal, he only cares about his self not 27 member states How much is the fishing industry worth to our economy, it must be tens of billions ?? UK fishing industry is worth 0.12% of GDP. Approx £600 million." Really? That much | |||
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"Macron is well down in the polls his opponent in the next election comes from a fishing region he will never agree to fishing concessions so thats it no deal, he only cares about his self not 27 member states How much is the fishing industry worth to our economy, it must be tens of billions ?? UK fishing industry is worth 0.12% of GDP. Approx £600 million. Really? That much "The UK still wants to keep access to the single european energy market. That is worth an estimated maximum of £200 Billion to the UK energy sector. That is Macron's leverage. | |||
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"Macron is well down in the polls his opponent in the next election comes from a fishing region he will never agree to fishing concessions so thats it no deal, he only cares about his self not 27 member states How much is the fishing industry worth to our economy, it must be tens of billions ?? UK fishing industry is worth 0.12% of GDP. Approx £600 million." 80% of British caught fish is sold to the EU. So after the end of the year. The whole industry will be decimated. | |||
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"Macron is well down in the polls his opponent in the next election comes from a fishing region he will never agree to fishing concessions so thats it no deal, he only cares about his self not 27 member states How much is the fishing industry worth to our economy, it must be tens of billions ?? UK fishing industry is worth 0.12% of GDP. Approx £600 million. 80% of British caught fish is sold to the EU. So after the end of the year. The whole industry will be decimated." And 90% of the UK fishing fleet is manned by EU workers so there won't be anybody to catch the bloody fish ffs | |||
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"If you really believe its about fish they would go for the same agreement which has been offered as Norway. Its about control the eu has to try and keep control of the uk in some way to stop other states wanting to leave too.Yes the uk fishing industry was worth a lot more to the uk economy before we joined and can be again." Its about control over a country who has the power of veto who has retained it's own currency etc | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t." Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t." Why didn't we join the euro then. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha." I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too." I agree with all that. Democracy fails when propaganda rules to the point that people no longer have an informed choice. The simple fact is, people didn't and don't look up for themselves. As was mentioned on another thread. Other EU countries teach children at school what the EU is, how it functions and what it does. This combats, to a degree, the kind of misinformation we have here. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Why didn't we join the euro then." I think a mix of reasons, but we did not use one of the three versions of veto that were open to us to opt out of joining the single currency. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too." The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before." | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before." yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote." Can you explain to me how people who voted to remain..were to blame for the 4 year period? | |||
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"Correct me if I'm wrong.. but didn't boris vote against May's deal?" In doing so, he had his eye on the bigger prize! | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote." Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010  They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here. | |||
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"Correct me if I'm wrong.. but didn't boris vote against May's deal? In doing so, he had his eye on the bigger prize! " The same deal but different name? | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote." | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here."2010 to 2015 was a coalition government. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government."And? | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Can you explain to me how people who voted to remain..were to blame for the 4 year period?" It was inevitable that eventually people who voted against Brexit, would be responsible for Brexit.  | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
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And what?"You realise who was in that coalition? | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Can you explain to me how people who voted to remain..were to blame for the 4 year period? It was inevitable that eventually people who voted against Brexit, would be responsible for Brexit. "Standard. Just like the eu will be blamed if we crash out without a deal | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
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And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?"Do you understand what a coalition government is? | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
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And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?
Do you understand what a coalition government is?"I do. And the conservative party where the senior component of that coalition So I don't get your point. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
And?
And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?
Do you understand what a coalition government is?
I do.
And the conservative party where the senior component of that coalition
So I don't get your point."So if you understand what a coalition government is you understand why I posted what I did. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
And?
And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?
Do you understand what a coalition government is?
I do.
And the conservative party where the senior component of that coalition
So I don't get your point.
So if you understand what a coalition government is you understand why I posted what I did."Because the point still stands. Just because they had a junior party..they were still running the country. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
And?
And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?
Do you understand what a coalition government is?
I do.
And the conservative party where the senior component of that coalition
So I don't get your point.
So if you understand what a coalition government is you understand why I posted what I did.
Because the point still stands.
Just because they had a junior party..they were still running the country."So you don't really understand what a coalition government is. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
And?
And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?
Do you understand what a coalition government is?
I do.
And the conservative party where the senior component of that coalition
So I don't get your point.
So if you understand what a coalition government is you understand why I posted what I did.
Because the point still stands.
Just because they had a junior party..they were still running the country.
So you don't really understand what a coalition government is."Yeah obviously the concept is beyond me. | |||
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"Our veto was useless, every successive government has pretty much just continually signed us up to the next treaty that came along without ever giving two fucks about what Joe public thought or wanted, this seems to be the same for all the countries in the EU, there citizens seem to have no input in policy or direction that the EU is going in at all just the same as we didn’t. Ha! Look what happens when you get shit loads of anti-EU propaganda and then let Joe public have a say! Brexit. Case closed. Ha. I agree with you about propaganda, although in this day and age it really is quite easy to find information from multiple sources and not just one mouth piece if you are willing to look. I also think better education about what the EU is, what it does and what it stands for should have been something that was addressed a long time ago, but I am sorry I still believe in a democracy and I believe people should have a right to have a say, not just in the UK but all the other EU nations too. The EU is a not a media organisation. Anti eu propaganda has been part of the British press as well as large parts of the UK political body. It was a convenient whipping boy and bogey man when required to keep xenophobia ticking over or dodge government responsibility. The very fact that it faced a ceaseless stream of propaganda from one it's own members was unacceptable. Hungary and Poland are now following the trail set by the UK. The UK is like the dog that caught the car, it doesn't know what to do next. A rash manifesto promise, a referendum in a country that doesn't know how to use referendums. Then followed by four years of dithering self delusional bluster, hubris and incompetence on an scale never seen before.yes four years wasted by people who could not accept a democratic vote. Um, the conservatives have been in power since 2010 They are on their third leader since 2016. They rejected May's withdrawal agreement 3 times only to accept a worse deal from Johnson who suspended parliament to avoid scrutiny of the deal he is now trying to renege on. Just want to make sure we're on the same planet here.
2010 to 2015 was a coalition government.
And?
And what?
You realise who was in that coalition?
Do you understand what a coalition government is?
I do.
And the conservative party where the senior component of that coalition
So I don't get your point.
So if you understand what a coalition government is you understand why I posted what I did.
Because the point still stands.
Just because they had a junior party..they were still running the country.
So you don't really understand what a coalition government is.
Yeah obviously the concept is beyond me."Obviously.! | |||
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"Someone put this to me the other day I was not sure its correct or possible. At the end of this year we end transition but agree to follow the rules as before like freedom of movement, fishing ect ect. Crucially we would not be a paying member anymore but still have full access to the single market. So in a way it will be like before the referendum but without the price tag. I know it would not please everyone as its not full control and we would no longer be represented at the table. If in the future the rules changed that made things really bad for the uk we could just stop following the rules and go to WTO" Who ever told you that is wrong mate I am afraid. | |||
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"Someone put this to me the other day I was not sure its correct or possible. At the end of this year we end transition but agree to follow the rules as before like freedom of movement, fishing ect ect. Crucially we would not be a paying member anymore but still have full access to the single market. So in a way it will be like before the referendum but without the price tag. I know it would not please everyone as its not full control and we would no longer be represented at the table. If in the future the rules changed that made things really bad for the uk we could just stop following the rules and go to WTO Who ever told you that is wrong mate I am afraid." I assumed it must be wrong but could not think why apart from not hearing it mentioned with all that's gone on in the last few years. Originally thought he meant a Norway style deal but that does not stack up either. Closest I found was Switzerland. Anyway good to know its not just me | |||
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"This is doing my head in..... Can we just call it what it is..... no deal... You keep trying to shine the “no deal” turd by calling it other things! The WTO deal..... the bespoke deal... the bespoke arrangement.... and now the Australia style deal! If the Australia style deal was so good... why are the bloody Aussies negotiating a new deal with the eu.... Stop polishing the turd.... the turd is still a turd! " The tories know that a little spin and a little rebranding, they can tell anyone that band-aid will cover a stab wound. Problem is that on the other side they like to spin and tell everyone that a bandage is not going to stop a minor cut. It’s very tiring, and people are just no longer engaging because they are tired. They have brow beaten everyone to the point where we are just happy that we will accept less. | |||
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