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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? " Russia undoubtedly influenced both the US GE and Brexit referendum and in both cases got exactly the results they wanted. I think their influences over the next US GE will be diminished but unfortunately the damage has been done for now with Brexit | |||
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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? Russia undoubtedly influenced both the US GE and Brexit referendum and in both cases got exactly the results they wanted. I think their influences over the next US GE will be diminished but unfortunately the damage has been done for now with Brexit " Yes I agree re Brexit but I am concerned it’s even more of a basic problem than that. I am seeing just self serving politicians in parliament and the lords Ona gravy train after a few years of leaning not to answer a a question. What happend to doing good for your country which was the aim of most MP’s years ago I believe (no idea really) but it seems now what can I get out of this is the way they behave. I wish a lot of us now had voted for Corbyn ( I’m not a labour voter normally) Whilst yes I didn’t agree with a lot of his views I do agree the system is beginning to really stink and it needs to be balanced more for us all. Maybe hie would have been able to pull government back to being for the all people not just the elite. | |||
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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? Russia undoubtedly influenced both the US GE and Brexit referendum and in both cases got exactly the results they wanted. I think their influences over the next US GE will be diminished but unfortunately the damage has been done for now with Brexit Yes I agree re Brexit but I am concerned it’s even more of a basic problem than that. I am seeing just self serving politicians in parliament and the lords Ona gravy train after a few years of leaning not to answer a a question. What happend to doing good for your country which was the aim of most MP’s years ago I believe (no idea really) but it seems now what can I get out of this is the way they behave. I wish a lot of us now had voted for Corbyn ( I’m not a labour voter normally) Whilst yes I didn’t agree with a lot of his views I do agree the system is beginning to really stink and it needs to be balanced more for us all. Maybe hie would have been able to pull government back to being for the all people not just the elite. " I have to agree, however , be careful using that name, it makes certain people on here hysterical  | |||
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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? Russia undoubtedly influenced both the US GE and Brexit referendum and in both cases got exactly the results they wanted. I think their influences over the next US GE will be diminished but unfortunately the damage has been done for now with Brexit Yes I agree re Brexit but I am concerned it’s even more of a basic problem than that. I am seeing just self serving politicians in parliament and the lords Ona gravy train after a few years of leaning not to answer a a question. What happend to doing good for your country which was the aim of most MP’s years ago I believe (no idea really) but it seems now what can I get out of this is the way they behave. I wish a lot of us now had voted for Corbyn ( I’m not a labour voter normally) Whilst yes I didn’t agree with a lot of his views I do agree the system is beginning to really stink and it needs to be balanced more for us all. Maybe hie would have been able to pull government back to being for the all people not just the elite. I have to agree, however , be careful using that name, it makes certain people on here hysterical "Ha ha true | |||
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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? Evidence. Prove it. I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? Russia undoubtedly influenced both the US GE and Brexit referendum and in both cases got exactly the results they wanted. I think their influences over the next US GE will be diminished but unfortunately the damage has been done for now with Brexit " | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder." Have the? Well in that case they won't want to trade with us or come here and love. Ooops the do and they are. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. Have the? Well in that case they won't want to trade with us or come here and love. Ooops the do and they are." Just for clarity, we don’t really trade with Russia (nothing worth having) and with China we buy from them & they buy little from us. In terms of tourists, not many from either at the moment or students. China will of course be happy to sell to us & continue laughing...  | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. Have the? Well in that case they won't want to trade with us or come here and love. Ooops the do and they are." They will obviously trade with us, but now they can get a better deal | |||
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"Well, lets hope thats all they are doing, I am sure when wet-lettuce Raab threatens both of them during a typical week for their misdemenours, Putin who has already said he could wipe out the British army of an afternoon (2 million troops and probably best military hardware in the world), China, 2 million troops and same hardware plus techie know-how, (incidentally their trade is 10% up and stock markets there just topped 10.1 Trillion dollars),maybe co-vid is a biological weapon to bring down western economies and soften them up with confusion? Seems like the whole world relies on China for goods whereas we excell in the "service industry!"-shortly to go down the pan Still, not to worry, Im sure Russia, China and Iran (over half million troops) who have just completed joint military excercises are quite happy to see the back of Trump, who, at least tried to get Russia on-side, we have no worries though with Russia sending warships down the channel we can call on our EU allies, Germany etc-oh-but wait.......dammit! Now, wheres my foil hat have you seen it?" Snigger snigger!!  | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. Have the? Well in that case they won't want to trade with us or come here and love. Ooops the do and they are." Of course they will, they are going absolutely fleece us when we go begging for trade deals. | |||
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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? " Yes the Westeern style democracy does not work anymore as people do not respect the rule of law and authoritarian government works better.Western democracy is finished unless we realise this as you say it is not Trump or Boris the system is fucked. I sm reading a book on this and have read a few | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. Have the? Well in that case they won't want to trade with us or come here and love. Ooops the do and they are." Really??? Lol. The whole of Europe is laughing at the U.K. and the clown we have as PM. It doesn’t mean they’re going to stop trading or coming here does it? It might hurt brexiters like you but you lot have made this country be a laughing stock. I can’t see the link between taking the piss at us and trading. What a pathetic comment to be honest. We have lost the respect of a lot of countries. There’s more to life than trading but there always be some bellends to defend a lost cause. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder." The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder." Spot on they have even down graded our credit rating...you have to laugh as you'd cry with this bunch of idiots wrecking our reputation in every way... | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. " What we wanted and got mate is people in charge who you can actually vote out every few years unlike the various presidents of the eu. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. What we wanted and got mate is people in charge who you can actually vote out every few years unlike the various presidents of the eu. "To put it bluntly it seems to be like the Mexico situation here with Migrants in the southern states coming from south America and you are an insular country who didn't want people coming from Europe so voted to stop it. Now the Europeans are not letting you have your way and you the same with them. Will it work who knows but its a big risk. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. What we wanted and got mate is people in charge who you can actually vote out every few years unlike the various presidents of the eu.
To put it bluntly it seems to be like the Mexico situation here with Migrants in the southern states coming from south America and you are an insular country who didn't want people coming from Europe so voted to stop it.
Now the Europeans are not letting you have your way and you the same with them. Will it work who knows but its a big risk. "Not the reason i voted for it mate ive given mine but guess people voted for different reasons. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. What we wanted and got mate is people in charge who you can actually vote out every few years unlike the various presidents of the eu.
To put it bluntly it seems to be like the Mexico situation here with Migrants in the southern states coming from south America and you are an insular country who didn't want people coming from Europe so voted to stop it.
Now the Europeans are not letting you have your way and you the same with them. Will it work who knows but its a big risk. Not the reason i voted for it mate ive given mine but guess people voted for different reasons."Sorry I wasn't saying it was its just that's the way it was played out over here. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. " As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter." Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? | |||
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"I read a comment on another post so I’m curious that due to total disorganised incompetence in the U.K. and USA in the way we are being governed, are we slowly losing the ability to hold Russia and China to account. So basically handing them control on a plate? I’m not just aiming this at Trump and Boris I’m aiming it all our political parties and MPs here and in the USA. The vested interests of big business has always been an issue but it seems to be rampant now and the moral compass of our so called leaders is evaporating. Can we actually do anything or are we just too late? " Late is the hour, a dark path we tread. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? " Until the U.K. left the EU it was in fact the worlds biggest trading block. USA - 16.8 Trillion EUR EU - 17.7Trillion. EUR ( Uk made up 2.4 Trillion EUR) Figures correct as of 2017 But it’s ok we owe 2 Trillion so I’m sure they are not that worried about losing us as we were heading for a bailout. We can concentrate on working out WTO tariffs to sell to the EU now and see if we can be totally broke as a challenge. We will be winners there. Oh no Greece were first so we will come second again . Where are we getting any benefit from this bloody mess? I read in the last four years 10k nurses and health workers have gone back to Europe. So now if we get ill we won’t have enough trained staff to care for us. A government that keeps on giving. I see today even the non tax paying anti immigration racist Sunday mail has gone after Hancock over late night drinking in Houses of Parliament. 30 times he’s been asked if he was drinking after 10pm and 30 times refused to answer. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? " If you google “is the EU the largest economy in the world” you will find your answer. It overtook the US again in 2019 to take top spot. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? If you google “is the EU the largest economy in the world” you will find your answer. It overtook the US again in 2019 to take top spot." You sure? when I googled it it still seems to be the US which has the largest economy. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? Until the U.K. left the EU it was in fact the worlds biggest trading block. USA - 16.8 Trillion EUR EU - 17.7Trillion. EUR ( Uk made up 2.4 Trillion EUR) Figures correct as of 2017 But it’s ok we owe 2 Trillion so I’m sure they are not that worried about losing us as we were heading for a bailout. We can concentrate on working out WTO tariffs to sell to the EU now and see if we can be totally broke as a challenge. We will be winners there. Oh no Greece were first so we will come second again . Where are we getting any benefit from this bloody mess? I read in the last four years 10k nurses and health workers have gone back to Europe. So now if we get ill we won’t have enough trained staff to care for us. A government that keeps on giving. I see today even the non tax paying anti immigration racist Sunday mail has gone after Hancock over late night drinking in Houses of Parliament. 30 times he’s been asked if he was drinking after 10pm and 30 times refused to answer. " I asked the other day why exactly did we leave the eu? I'm still waiting for an answer. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? Until the U.K. left the EU it was in fact the worlds biggest trading block. USA - 16.8 Trillion EUR EU - 17.7Trillion. EUR ( Uk made up 2.4 Trillion EUR) Figures correct as of 2017 But it’s ok we owe 2 Trillion so I’m sure they are not that worried about losing us as we were heading for a bailout. We can concentrate on working out WTO tariffs to sell to the EU now and see if we can be totally broke as a challenge. We will be winners there. Oh no Greece were first so we will come second again . Where are we getting any benefit from this bloody mess? I read in the last four years 10k nurses and health workers have gone back to Europe. So now if we get ill we won’t have enough trained staff to care for us. A government that keeps on giving. I see today even the non tax paying anti immigration racist Sunday mail has gone after Hancock over late night drinking in Houses of Parliament. 30 times he’s been asked if he was drinking after 10pm and 30 times refused to answer. I asked the other day why exactly did we leave the eu? I'm still waiting for an answer." Because the leave vote got more than the remain vote. Its quite simple to understand. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? Until the U.K. left the EU it was in fact the worlds biggest trading block. USA - 16.8 Trillion EUR EU - 17.7Trillion. EUR ( Uk made up 2.4 Trillion EUR) Figures correct as of 2017 But it’s ok we owe 2 Trillion so I’m sure they are not that worried about losing us as we were heading for a bailout. We can concentrate on working out WTO tariffs to sell to the EU now and see if we can be totally broke as a challenge. We will be winners there. Oh no Greece were first so we will come second again . Where are we getting any benefit from this bloody mess? I read in the last four years 10k nurses and health workers have gone back to Europe. So now if we get ill we won’t have enough trained staff to care for us. A government that keeps on giving. I see today even the non tax paying anti immigration racist Sunday mail has gone after Hancock over late night drinking in Houses of Parliament. 30 times he’s been asked if he was drinking after 10pm and 30 times refused to answer. I asked the other day why exactly did we leave the eu? I'm still waiting for an answer. Because the leave vote got more than the remain vote. Its quite simple to understand. " Spectactually obtuse | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? Until the U.K. left the EU it was in fact the worlds biggest trading block. USA - 16.8 Trillion EUR EU - 17.7Trillion. EUR ( Uk made up 2.4 Trillion EUR) Figures correct as of 2017 But it’s ok we owe 2 Trillion so I’m sure they are not that worried about losing us as we were heading for a bailout. We can concentrate on working out WTO tariffs to sell to the EU now and see if we can be totally broke as a challenge. We will be winners there. Oh no Greece were first so we will come second again . Where are we getting any benefit from this bloody mess? I read in the last four years 10k nurses and health workers have gone back to Europe. So now if we get ill we won’t have enough trained staff to care for us. A government that keeps on giving. I see today even the non tax paying anti immigration racist Sunday mail has gone after Hancock over late night drinking in Houses of Parliament. 30 times he’s been asked if he was drinking after 10pm and 30 times refused to answer. I asked the other day why exactly did we leave the eu? I'm still waiting for an answer." You dont understand democracy now those lefties really have got inside your head. | |||
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"It’s not just Russia and China. The world has been laughing at us since we voted for Brexit, the utter incompetence of our government during Covid19 has only allowed them to laugh longer and harder. The Brexit thing we don't laugh at just scratch our heads and wonder what you want. Maybe you could get better deals with the US and your Commonwealth who being part of Europe stopped you doing its really hard to tell from the outside. As members of the EU we were part of the world’s biggest economy, we negotiated with the likes of the US and China from a position of power, now we are desperate and are about to get royally screwed in every negotiation we enter. Where do you get the EU as the biggest economy from? Until the U.K. left the EU it was in fact the worlds biggest trading block. USA - 16.8 Trillion EUR EU - 17.7Trillion. EUR ( Uk made up 2.4 Trillion EUR) Figures correct as of 2017 But it’s ok we owe 2 Trillion so I’m sure they are not that worried about losing us as we were heading for a bailout. We can concentrate on working out WTO tariffs to sell to the EU now and see if we can be totally broke as a challenge. We will be winners there. Oh no Greece were first so we will come second again . Where are we getting any benefit from this bloody mess? I read in the last four years 10k nurses and health workers have gone back to Europe. So now if we get ill we won’t have enough trained staff to care for us. A government that keeps on giving. I see today even the non tax paying anti immigration racist Sunday mail has gone after Hancock over late night drinking in Houses of Parliament. 30 times he’s been asked if he was drinking after 10pm and 30 times refused to answer. I asked the other day why exactly did we leave the eu? I'm still waiting for an answer.You dont understand democracy now those lefties really have got inside your head. "It’s not really a left problem, the right also have a problem. Both sides have a problem with democracy in general Both sides are there telling you what to think, how you should feel, and why you should feel it. Both sides want to dictate, i’d think they would be happy if there there was no parliament, and they could do what they want. To be perfectly honest, I trust my own judgement when I see incompetent people chatting crap. And this is what those people who support either the left or the right have to get out of the habit of. | |||
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