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"Well this isn’t at all scarily like the actions of a dictatorship now is it. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/sep/27/uk-schools-told-not-to-use-anti-capitalist-material-in-teaching" What is that? Anti-Capitalist material?, are they going to remove the books about sharing and caring? | |||
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"Basically they are wanting to ban stuff based on it's source, irrespective of the content. In theory, a simple recipe for vegan curry could be banned if it's source was, for example, the British Communist Party. " I feel like I've walked into some dystopian future | |||
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"Basically they are wanting to ban stuff based on it's source, irrespective of the content. In theory, a simple recipe for vegan curry could be banned if it's source was, for example, the British Communist Party. I feel like I've walked into some dystopian future " 1984 rit large | |||
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"Basically they are wanting to ban stuff based on it's source, irrespective of the content. In theory, a simple recipe for vegan curry could be banned if it's source was, for example, the British Communist Party. I feel like I've walked into some dystopian future " You could walk to the Aztec zone if you wanted get a few crystal there instead. | |||
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"It really is very scary, how long before we have a generation that thinks there is no alternative to unfettered capitalism?" I doubt that it would come to pass, people have a sense that if something is wrong then something will be done about it. | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol " How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. | |||
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"Teachers should be left to educate but there's always been a list of government allowed material what you can use and can't use. If teachers are only using anti capitalist material there a wrong in same goes if there only using capitalist material." Has there? What was was the banned list? | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. " We live in a the trimpian/Johnson age. Even if we see something with our own eyes we will call it fake news if we dont agree with it. | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. " If its done peacefully I assume you mean. What would replace it | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol" Did you get 'em on the black market? I bet there was a roaing trade of dodgy dealers flogging Blyton. | |||
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"Teachers should be left to educate but there's always been a list of government allowed material what you can use and can't use. If teachers are only using anti capitalist material there a wrong in same goes if there only using capitalist material. Has there? What was was the banned list?" . Read the post above  | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. " I don't think it's extreme either but most people who think it are completely deluded morons who've never thought anything through except how far there benefits can stretch for the next beer!. Is it perfect! Hell no but it's got 3.7 billion people out of abject poverty within 30 years, every disease that's EVER been cured has been cured with capitalism. I'm yet to hear a better system but I'm all ears if you've got the solution? | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. I don't think it's extreme either but most people who think it are completely deluded morons who've never thought anything through except how far there benefits can stretch for the next beer!. Is it perfect! Hell no but it's got 3.7 billion people out of abject poverty within 30 years, every disease that's EVER been cured has been cured with capitalism. I'm yet to hear a better system but I'm all ears if you've got the solution?" Surely it depends on the type of capitalism. We built the welfare state on a mixture of socialism and capitalism. | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. I don't think it's extreme either but most people who think it are completely deluded morons who've never thought anything through except how far there benefits can stretch for the next beer!. Is it perfect! Hell no but it's got 3.7 billion people out of abject poverty within 30 years, every disease that's EVER been cured has been cured with capitalism. I'm yet to hear a better system but I'm all ears if you've got the solution? Surely it depends on the type of capitalism. We built the welfare state on a mixture of socialism and capitalism." It's all payed for by capitalism, the welfare state is simply a tax redistribution scheme payed for by capitalism, without capitalism it wouldn't even exist. | |||
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"This isn't really about what could replace capitalism, or it's relative merits. This is about the very real potential that nothing will ever be allowed to replace capitalism because children will pretty much be taught there is no alternative. Basically it's the sort of thing totalitarian regimes do." I think your right because when I looked into it after reading it on here it seems it was critical race theory that was being banned. But still even if it was anticapitalism there's nothing wrong with teaching bad things about capitalism, what's wrong is teaching violent revolt to overthrow it without a Scooby Doo as to what to replace it with, if you do, your just nothing more than a snake oil salesmen like your nemesis president trump. | |||
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"This isn't really about what could replace capitalism, or it's relative merits. This is about the very real potential that nothing will ever be allowed to replace capitalism because children will pretty much be taught there is no alternative. Basically it's the sort of thing totalitarian regimes do. I think your right because when I looked into it after reading it on here it seems it was critical race theory that was being banned. But still even if it was anticapitalism there's nothing wrong with teaching bad things about capitalism, what's wrong is teaching violent revolt to overthrow it without a Scooby Doo as to what to replace it with, if you do, your just nothing more than a snake oil salesmen like your nemesis president trump." Do you mean they shouldn't teach things like the Russian revolution in history? | |||
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"I am sure this is all fake news or taken out of context. In my day Enid Blyton books where banned so I read more of her books had the opposite effect lol How can a published government document be fake news. Here you go: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies It's quite a long way down, so here's the bit. "Schools should not under any circumstances use resources produced by organisations that take extreme political stances on matters. This is the case even if the material itself is not extreme, as the use of it could imply endorsement or support of the organisation. Examples of extreme political stances include, but are not limited to: a publicly stated desire to abolish or overthrow democracy, capitalism, or to end free and fair elections" I personally do not think it extreme to wish to "overthrow" capitalism. I don't think it's extreme either but most people who think it are completely deluded morons who've never thought anything through except how far there benefits can stretch for the next beer!. Is it perfect! Hell no but it's got 3.7 billion people out of abject poverty within 30 years, every disease that's EVER been cured has been cured with capitalism. I'm yet to hear a better system but I'm all ears if you've got the solution? Surely it depends on the type of capitalism. We built the welfare state on a mixture of socialism and capitalism. It's all payed for by capitalism, the welfare state is simply a tax redistribution scheme payed for by capitalism, without capitalism it wouldn't even exist." Its built by peoples taces not capitalism The welfare state would have bot have been built under today's system. | |||
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"This isn't really about what could replace capitalism, or it's relative merits. This is about the very real potential that nothing will ever be allowed to replace capitalism because children will pretty much be taught there is no alternative. Basically it's the sort of thing totalitarian regimes do. I think your right because when I looked into it after reading it on here it seems it was critical race theory that was being banned. But still even if it was anticapitalism there's nothing wrong with teaching bad things about capitalism, what's wrong is teaching violent revolt to overthrow it without a Scooby Doo as to what to replace it with, if you do, your just nothing more than a snake oil salesmen like your nemesis president trump." I’m not sure anyone is teaching the violent overthrow of capitalism, they are saying that no material produced by groups who have at any time espoused the idea that a violent overthrow of capitalism is a good idea is allowed to be used, regardless of whether that material calls for the overthrown of capitalism. Capitalism is merely one economic system, that it has its status enshrined as untouchable in some way is really quite frightening. | |||
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"This isn't really about what could replace capitalism, or it's relative merits. This is about the very real potential that nothing will ever be allowed to replace capitalism because children will pretty much be taught there is no alternative. Basically it's the sort of thing totalitarian regimes do. I think your right because when I looked into it after reading it on here it seems it was critical race theory that was being banned. But still even if it was anticapitalism there's nothing wrong with teaching bad things about capitalism, what's wrong is teaching violent revolt to overthrow it without a Scooby Doo as to what to replace it with, if you do, your just nothing more than a snake oil salesmen like your nemesis president trump. I’m not sure anyone is teaching the violent overthrow of capitalism, they are saying that no material produced by groups who have at any time espoused the idea that a violent overthrow of capitalism is a good idea is allowed to be used, regardless of whether that material calls for the overthrown of capitalism. Capitalism is merely one economic system, that it has its status enshrined as untouchable in some way is really quite frightening." I don't think many people think it's untouchable, it's just the best system we've come up with so far by a country mile. | |||
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"This isn't really about what could replace capitalism, or it's relative merits. This is about the very real potential that nothing will ever be allowed to replace capitalism because children will pretty much be taught there is no alternative. Basically it's the sort of thing totalitarian regimes do. I think your right because when I looked into it after reading it on here it seems it was critical race theory that was being banned. But still even if it was anticapitalism there's nothing wrong with teaching bad things about capitalism, what's wrong is teaching violent revolt to overthrow it without a Scooby Doo as to what to replace it with, if you do, your just nothing more than a snake oil salesmen like your nemesis president trump. Do you mean they shouldn't teach things like the Russian revolution in history?" The Russian Revolution wasn't about capitalism it was about unfair taxes and abject poverty jumped upon by a bunch of well heeled middle class well educated tits with the promise of something better, they then murdered everybody who stood in their way including they're own revolutionaries, starved 30 million to death and created by the biggest pile of dog shit ever created that was so bad everybody did anything to get out all while having massive disproportionate wealth between the have,s and the have nots. | |||
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"This isn't really about what could replace capitalism, or it's relative merits. This is about the very real potential that nothing will ever be allowed to replace capitalism because children will pretty much be taught there is no alternative. Basically it's the sort of thing totalitarian regimes do. I think your right because when I looked into it after reading it on here it seems it was critical race theory that was being banned. But still even if it was anticapitalism there's nothing wrong with teaching bad things about capitalism, what's wrong is teaching violent revolt to overthrow it without a Scooby Doo as to what to replace it with, if you do, your just nothing more than a snake oil salesmen like your nemesis president trump. Do you mean they shouldn't teach things like the Russian revolution in history? The Russian Revolution wasn't about capitalism it was about unfair taxes and abject poverty jumped upon by a bunch of well heeled middle class well educated tits with the promise of something better, they then murdered everybody who stood in their way including they're own revolutionaries, starved 30 million to death and created by the biggest pile of dog shit ever created that was so bad everybody did anything to get out all while having massive disproportionate wealth between the have,s and the have nots." Not a fan then? You didnt answer my question..should it be taught at school? As an aside I'd sy it was done to overthrow a despotic autocratic monarchy. | |||
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