FabSwingers.com forum: Your views on this government

By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Wherever you look, this gvt is out of its depth. Everything they do seems to be going south. The level of incompetence, the incredible lack of honesty and integrity is staggering, the reluctance to take ownership of any mess they create, the number of lies they come up with is simply out of this world. They have now prorogued parliament illegally and they’re also happy to break international law. So much for Britain taking back control of its democracy after Brexit. Are these imposters really representing the electorate and the British citizens?

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

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By *eandMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

Sadly there is a lack of decency that is manifesting itself at all levels of society and there is certainly no "example" being provided from the "top".

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

No different to any of the other governments.

Boris is fun though

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"No different to any of the other governments.

Boris is fun though

Politicians are always economical with the truth but this lot are different league. The lack of competence seems pretty blatant to me.

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By *eandMan
over a year ago

Lichfield

"No different to any of the other governments.

Boris is fun though

Fun like Heroin Addicts describe shooting up... With ultimately the same results eventually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not posh or went to a posh school or learned anobby etiquate however you spell it but..Government means control and they dont even pay to get to work by themselves they charge everything to a free account, Taxi! Its a joke. They need real citizens in Parliment not privaledged pomps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only thing i know about government.

we all owe shitloads of money

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

A big chunk of the electorate voted them in on the basis of a 3 word slogan.

They are upto their necks in corruption and their handling of the crises has been an utter car crash..yet there is barely a word of dissent.

You get the gmnt you deserve.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?"

Has Emma's account been hacked?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?

Has Emma's account been hacked?"

Maybe this is just an epic redemption arc. Has Emma turned aside from the dark side of the force?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?

Has Emma's account been hacked?"

She obviously hasn’t been drinking tonight

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Taking a Brexit out of the equation.

This lot are morally bankrupt. The lies are constant and we just keep sucking it up. The Express newspaper and Sky News are starting to turn against them. You just can’t find anything positive to say about their ability.

Hancock should be gone.

Cummings should be sacked without a parachute payment. .

Jenrick should be jailed for corruption and that developer made to pay the £40 million owed.

The Russian funding should be fully investigated.

Planning rule changes are going to please the big property developers. Hang on who do they fund again?.

The list goes on and it’s a disgraceful list at that.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Taking a Brexit out of the equation.

Hancock should be gone.

Cummings should be sacked without a parachute payment. .

Jenrick should be jailed for corruption and that developer made to pay the £40 million owed.

The Russian funding should be fully investigated.

Planning rule changes are going to please the big property developers. Hang on who do they fund again?.

The list goes on and it’s a disgraceful list at that. "

It would take something monumental for the media to turn on them in this country.

It's a joke when you think about it.We are supposed to have a free and balanced press.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wherever you look, this gvt is out of its depth. Everything they do seems to be going south. The level of incompetence, the incredible lack of honesty and integrity is staggering, the reluctance to take ownership of any mess they create, the number of lies they come up with is simply out of this world. They have now prorogued parliament illegally and they’re also happy to break international law. So much for Britain taking back control of its democracy after Brexit. Are these imposters really representing the electorate and the British citizens?

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most? "

80 majority, he can do whatever he wants and so can the rest of TP. No one has a voice now.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Taking a Brexit out of the equation.

Hancock should be gone.

Cummings should be sacked without a parachute payment. .

Jenrick should be jailed for corruption and that developer made to pay the £40 million owed.

The Russian funding should be fully investigated.

Planning rule changes are going to please the big property developers. Hang on who do they fund again?.

The list goes on and it’s a disgraceful list at that. "

It would take something monumental for the media to turn on them in this country.

It's a joke when you think about it.We are supposed to have a free and balanced press.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

80 majority, he can do whatever he wants and so can the rest of TP. No one has a voice now."

Thanks to the great British public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

80 majority, he can do whatever he wants and so can the rest of TP. No one has a voice now.

Thanks to the great British public."

Well who knows what they will be feeling in the few years?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scurrilous corrupt tory bstrds

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Still better than the alternative.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

"At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?"

So nearly got it right...Apart from the spelling of incompetent the other errors are the inclusion of "At present" and also the understanding them getting things wrong at the start despite being in a position of seeing what was happening elsewhere in Europe...

Hey, at least you are perhaps starting to see what most of us saw from before day one of BoJo becoming prime minister...

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Still better than the alternative. "

I would have said the same at the election but to be honest I’m not so sure now.

Boris definitely has a low wage city benefitting plan. I don’t believe for a minute that the hi tech island idea will run with 70 million of us and with so many poorly educated.

Unemployment being high brings wages down and waters down employment protection. Maggie knew that and totally used it to her advantage to overcome the unions.

Boris knows a lot of people will be desperate so will take any low paid job offered.

Low wage low taxation offshore island hmm

The rich will definitely get richer and the poor will get poorer. Suck it up folks ya all voted for this shower.

I genuinely thing we need a good shake up of politics. It just doesn’t work in this country. We grow in size but get deeper in debt. I don’t believe our leaders in Parliament or our civil service can cope with modern systems and we struggle to keep up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was on a call with DWP other day, and was speaking with a lovely lady. I mentioned in jest, is there any jobs with you, DWP?

she informed me that they were looking to recruit 13000 job coaches as anticipating another big surge in claims to benefits. My reply, again in jest was, well looks like we're going to end up a socialist society. She didn't deny this, just said, who knows what will happen.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Still better than the alternative. "

Yeah right.

What type of idiot wants a fair society not run by clowns?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

80 majority, he can do whatever he wants and so can the rest of TP. No one has a voice now.

Thanks to the great British public.

Well who knows what they will be feeling in the few years?"

I've literally no sympathy for then

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Still better than the alternative.

I would have said the same at the election but to be honest I’m not so sure now.

Boris definitely has a low wage city benefitting plan. I don’t believe for a minute that the hi tech island idea will run with 70 million of us and with so many poorly educated.

Unemployment being high brings wages down and waters down employment protection. Maggie knew that and totally used it to her advantage to overcome the unions.

Boris knows a lot of people will be desperate so will take any low paid job offered.

Low wage low taxation offshore island hmm

The rich will definitely get richer and the poor will get poorer. Suck it up folks ya all voted for this shower.

I'd say the problem was with with the electorate.

A big chunk of people think just because you went to eton ,who were born to rule.

The spirit of Thatcherism also still lives on..Ive ok fuck everyone else.If it doesnt effect them,they couldnt give a toss.

We also have widespread apathy where even a Russian interference scandal barely raises an eye brow.

Under corbyn there was a huge number of young people who actually became engaged in politics,as at least he represented something different.

I fear that is gone now.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

I dont know dominic cummings enough to comment about how i feel about this government

Does anybody know about this guy thats leading boris around by the snout?

What has he done or achieved to be leading uk down this path?

Apparently the narrative is he is a cunning Machiavellian political strategist

What a laugh

All this fucking mess has been created by this unelected arrogant fool with no track record of achieving anything in the real world yet he is running your country

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

" Apparently the narrative is he is a cunning Machiavellian political strategist "

... he is, and very good at it is as well.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I'm voting leave as I dont want to be told what to do by an unelected bureaucrat.

So I'm going to vote for a party ran by an unelected bureaucrat.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

" Apparently the narrative is he is a cunning Machiavellian political strategist

... he is, and very good at it is as well."

Is that why he hires people who support eugenics?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still better than the alternative. "

Prove it

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet."

I can. It could be worse, though. At least they are annoying the fuck out of their own supporters in their use of left-wing economics to cope with the virus.

They've got such a hard-on for being able to give state-aid to UK companies, that they're prepared to break international law to be able to do it.

Bottom line - they're all over the fucking place. There's no plan. Just reaction to events, bullshitting and blaming anyone but themselves.

And 43.6% of UK voters think they're the right people for the job. It's not really their fault.

As for the opposition, if they can't beat this shower, in 2024, there really is no hope for the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think alot of TP voters tend to move past the hyprocrisy of the tory government, mainly because they are quite forgiving of the mistakes they make, or they justify the behaviour as part of some great scheme which might benefit themselves.

This is power, the ability not to convince someone to vote a particular way, but for the voter to convince themselves to vote for the party of your choice.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"At present they are incompetant,I understand them getting things wrong at the start of the virus but to be so disorganised by now is pathetic.Why is Hancock still in a job?

Has Emma's account been hacked?"
I do not think you read properly what I say including this comment and the others.I am not so hard to comprehend am I ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The PM chose his ministers for loyalty to him and the brexit causes. Competence, experience and moral scruples didn't enter the equation.

As Johnson is likewise pretty much devoid of any integrity, he's no problem with others similarly from the sewer. His chum Cummings is of the same mold, merely focused on their agenda, which doesn't involve much other than what's right for them.

A bunch who aren't there for our benefit and an election 4 years away means there's limited control of their desires, unless some eurosceptic zealots push them to order or it becomes clearer that Johnson's days as leader are running short.

It's a tragic setup for a great country and its people.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

"Still better than the alternative. "

Is there an alternative?

A lot of people moaning and complaining but none coming up with any alternative plans or ideas to tackle this once every one hundred years pandemic.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

View on the government?

Shit, almost Labour in disgususe. All the same, all running on bullshit that don't exist. Boris is an elitist prick however labour are so dangerous

I hope next election they are totally destroyed and then after this the labour Marxists destroyed

And a new party arrises

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"View on the government?

Shit, almost Labour in disgususe. All the same, all running on bullshit that don't exist. Boris is an elitist prick however labour are so dangerous

I hope next election they are totally destroyed and then after this the labour Marxists destroyed

And a new party arrises

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By *exy couple128Couple
over a year ago

Scarborough

Can't see that Labour would have done any better, Labours spending plans would have resulted in the country being in even more debt then everyone would have to vote on Corbyns Brexit deal, imagine that with social distancing, The government are following advice from experts that is constantly changing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can't see that Labour would have done any better, Labours spending plans would have resulted in the country being in even more debt then everyone would have to vote on Corbyns Brexit deal, imagine that with social distancing, The government are following advice from experts that is constantly changing."

They're following experts? If they'd been following experts from the start, far fewer people would now be dead in this country. Johnson didn't even bother turning up to a Cobra meeting for agggggggges.

And yes Labour likely would have done better. Hell, a jizz-stained sock would likely have done better than Johnson's useless mix of bullshit, flim flam and doing bugger all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's a timeline of government failure if you fancy seeeing some facts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twDYflcq1ls

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

What spending plans?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

And yes Labour likely would have done better. Hell, a jizz-stained sock would likely have done better than Johnson's useless mix of bullshit, flim flam and doing bugger all."

It's irrelevant what Labour likely would have done.

The first thing they need to do was win the 2019 General Election and they failed miserably. Suffered their worst defeat since the 1930's

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

"View on the government?

Shit, almost Labour in disgususe. All the same, all running on bullshit that don't exist. Boris is an elitist prick however labour are so dangerous

I hope next election they are totally destroyed and then after this the labour Marxists destroyed

And a new party arrises

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

This government is a joke.

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By *illi3736Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

No this Govt is NOT a joke......Jokes are funny, this is a total shit show of Trumpesque proportions. We need leadership and get a "personality"a man who hasnt even bothered to read his own party policies.

This is what happens when the sum total of debate is "Well Labour would have been worse"...My pet cats toy rattle makes as many intelligent noises as any eminating from this clueless bunch of chancers.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"No this Govt is NOT a joke......Jokes are funny, this is a total shit show of Trumpesque proportions. We need leadership and get a "personality"a man who hasnt even bothered to read his own party policies.

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By *exy couple128Couple
over a year ago

Scarborough

Conservatives won the election with a landslide victory destroying the Labour party in the process. If you still can't get over this after a year your going to be very bitter and upset for the next 4 years

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Conservatives won the election with a landslide victory destroying the Labour party in the process. If you still can't get over this after a year your going to be very bitter and upset for the next 4 years

Yet you mention lefties in every single post?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1. A bit of an exaggeration 80 majority isn’t really a Landslide, 179 in 1997 is a landslide. I call that the Dundee rule.

2. You are right, mourning the loss of a two time loser is sad.

3. 4 years is a long time, so better Labour fans should come to peace with it and save the fight for the various elections which come during that time. No point disclosing your opinions, let the TP voters have their time in the sun, it will eventually set.

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By *igsteve43Man
over a year ago

derby

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most? "

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congratulations to those who voted for them, you got what deserved.

A bunch of fucking clowns.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable"

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit. "

They were in a no win position.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. "
they put there self in that position

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position "

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election?"
there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election? there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance "

They would have lost the remain vote..caused a big split in the party and tory leavers would still vote Tory.

The difference was Tory remainers still voted tory.

Labour leavers voted tory.

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By *igsteve43Man
over a year ago

derby

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election? there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance "

Bang on the remainers would not had anywhere to really go , so would have still voted Labour, however to win an election now you need to win the centre ground and labour were never going to do that with corbyn and Co hence they were unelectable

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election? there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance

They would have lost the remain vote..caused a big split in the party and tory leavers would still vote Tory.

The difference was Tory remainers still voted tory.

Labour leavers voted tory."
if Tory remain voters voted Tory why wouldn’t labour remain voters vote labour if labour backed leave then ? They lost as soon as they let labour mps on question time remember if we win we will respect the vote to leave then do another referendum and campaign to remain ffs that minute they had lost

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election? there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance

They would have lost the remain vote..caused a big split in the party and tory leavers would still vote Tory.

The difference was Tory remainers still voted tory.

Labour leavers voted tory.if Tory remain voters voted Tory why wouldn’t labour remain voters vote labour if labour backed leave then ? They lost as soon as they let labour mps on question time remember if we win we will respect the vote to leave then do another referendum and campaign to remain ffs that minute they had lost "

Because if you believed it was right to stay in the eu you are not likely to vote for someone who wants to leave.

The Tories knew for a fact that even their remain support wouldnt vote for a left leaning labour party.

Once the election became all about Brexit labour were fucked.

The big mistake they did make was not seeing this and trying to make it about actual policies.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election? there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance

They would have lost the remain vote..caused a big split in the party and tory leavers would still vote Tory.

The difference was Tory remainers still voted tory.

Because if you believed it was right to stay in the eu you are not likely to vote for someone who wants to leave.

The Tories knew for a fact that even their remain support wouldnt vote for a left leaning labour party.

Once the election became all about Brexit labour were fucked.

The big mistake they did make was not seeing this and trying to make it about actual policies."
know one thought it was about policies that’s why they lost It was about Brexit Corbyn should of had the balls to say he supported leave maybe he would of stood a chance sitting on the fence ruined him and lost the north best thing that could ever of happened for the north now the torys have to invest in us to win again and labour have to promise us the earth to win again win. Win

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By *ireman28Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

My w*nk sock could do a better job!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election? there best option was back leave they wouldn’t of lost the northern vote and stood a chance

They would have lost the remain vote..caused a big split in the party and tory leavers would still vote Tory.

The difference was Tory remainers still voted tory.

Because if you believed it was right to stay in the eu you are not likely to vote for someone who wants to leave.

The Tories knew for a fact that even their remain support wouldnt vote for a left leaning labour party.

Once the election became all about Brexit labour were fucked.

The big mistake they did make was not seeing this and trying to make it about actual policies. know one thought it was about policies that’s why they lost It was about Brexit Corbyn should of had the balls to say he supported leave maybe he would of stood a chance sitting on the fence ruined him and lost the north best thing that could ever of happened for the north now the torys have to invest in us to win again and labour have to promise us the earth to win again win. Win "

I've said before they would have lost the remain vote.

They were in a no win situation.

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parliament illegally and they’re also happy to break international law. So much for Britain taking back control of its democracy after Brexit. Are these imposters really representing the electorate and the British citizens?

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most? "

You!!!!! Get off your soap box and get back in your box. #whatafanny

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I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

You!!!!! Get off your soap box and get back in your box. #whatafanny"

It is bizarre when people blame the person highlighting the government's fuck ups as opposed to the government that is actually fucking things up.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. they put there self in that position

No they weren't.

They had 3 options.

Back remain.. which would have lost them the leave vote which would have lost the election.

Back leave..they would have lost the remainers and lost the election.

Back a 2nd referendum. The option which was the most logical but meant they also lost.

What Brexit option would have won them the election?"

I think Labour and the Liberals played into Boris hand by letting him have that early election. They had him stuttering all over the place because he didn’t have a majority.

Brexit was getting stalled and the only way to close that off would have been a second referendum with the full facts now on available.

A result of either in or out would have cleared away that discussion, then the next election would have been about policies not Brexit. Corbyn may still have lost but the majority in Parliament for Boris would have been less and he would been held to account more often.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Boris got this far on bluster and thinking it was all a big joke.

Imagine his horror when Labour started burning the house around themselves and he got the job.

Woeful performance on the pandemic.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

After seeing the footage from the protests in London yesterday it's fairly obvious we're moving to a police state.

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"After seeing the footage from the protests in London yesterday it's fairly obvious we're moving to a police state. "

Yes. I suggest you go on holiday in North Korea or Belarus and then come back to tell us what a police state looks like. 98% of all countries in the world have probably fewer freedoms that British citizens but it must feel so good for our libertarians here to exaggerate what doesn’t appeal to them...

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over a year ago

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position. "

They only made a decision on Brexit at the final week or so, they left it way too late to make a difference.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"After seeing the footage from the protests in London yesterday it's fairly obvious we're moving to a police state.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I can’t believe that these people are representing the UK and that NONE of them has resigned yet.

What are your views on this shit show and the people who are running it? What annoys you the most?

What annoys me most 8s labour made themselves unelectable

No they didnt

Lots of traditional labour voters were only interested in ",getting Brexit done "

Labour sat on the fence too long over Brexit. The last election was not one for policies, it was about brexit.

They were in a no win position.

They only made a decision on Brexit at the final week or so, they left it way too late to make a difference. "

What decision would have won them the election?

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By *exy couple128Couple
over a year ago

Scarborough

One of the election night highlights was the old cunt Dennis Skinner losing his seat

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"One of the election night highlights was the old cunt Dennis Skinner losing his seat

I didn’t agree with Dennis Skinner’s politics but he had the best attendance and lowest expenses in parliament .

He also refused to rein with the opposition so they could not vote together . He said it was he duty to vote which is why he was elected .

Whilst her was a bolshy twat at times he would be last in my firing line regarding MPs

The other thieving scum bags would be first !

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Its certainly going to be a sad day when all these working class tories realise boris and co wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire

Tragic.

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By *ice__blokeMan
over a year ago

redcar

"No different to any of the other governments.

Boris is fun though

This Government is no different than others - what a fun statement.

You obviously are not in touch with what us the general public think. Head in the sand......

all the tory news papers have turned on them today too calling the " a shambles "

They are a rudderless life boat, off the coast of the Isle Of Wight - with Boris at the helm - up the creek with no paddle, his finger up his ars while shouting " We have the world beating testing "

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"One of the election night highlights was the old cunt Dennis Skinner losing his seat

I didn’t agree with Dennis Skinner’s politics but he had the best attendance and lowest expenses in parliament .

He also refused to rein with the opposition so they could not vote together . He said it was he duty to vote which is why he was elected .

Whilst her was a bolshy twat at times he would be last in my firing line regarding MPs

The other thieving scum bags would be first ! "

Correction he refused to pair up with the opposition MP’s

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable."

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

They learned absolutely nothing from that and their London-centric leadership made the same mistake of treating the people of the North of England and the Midlands with the same contempt with which they treated the Scots.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault."

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up.

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over a year ago

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up."

I think Cambridge Analytica proved something. A die hard Tory will never vote Labour if their life depended on it. And vice versa. No argument will change their vote.

Elections are won and lost on which way the "undecided" sway. Their vote is usually influenced by something as trivial as a news story on social media. This is why modern campaigners set up entire offices to fabricate fake news which they direct at people identified as "undecided" from things they make freely available on social media.

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By *igsteve43Man
over a year ago

derby

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up.

I think Cambridge Analytica proved something. A die hard Tory will never vote Labour if their life depended on it. And vice versa. No argument will change their vote.

I tried earlier in 5he thread to say this bur Lionel won't accept that corbyn was their biggest problem not brexit

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over a year ago

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up.

I think Cambridge Analytica proved something. A die hard Tory will never vote Labour if their life depended on it. And vice versa. No argument will change their vote.

I tried earlier in 5he thread to say this bur Lionel won't accept that corbyn was their biggest problem not brexit"

"Your views on the government" has morphed into "Corbyn was their biggest problem"...

Standard for a politics thread on here.

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over a year ago

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up.

I think Cambridge Analytica proved something. A die hard Tory will never vote Labour if their life depended on it. And vice versa. No argument will change their vote.

I tried earlier in 5he thread to say this bur Lionel won't accept that corbyn was their biggest problem not brexit"

I am agreeing with Lionel. Corbyn wasn't a problem. The lies that were propagated on social media were the problem. There was never any proof of antisemitism or support for terrorists. But the truth didn't really factor into the equation.

Corbyn refused to get into the gutter and play dirty and that's what cost him in the end. Cambridge Analytica influenced not only our referendum but elections around the world. No political party can succeed in the world of modern politics without playing dirty.

The irony is that only a underhanded government can ever be elected. And so here we are, selling our integrity, breaking international law and playing straight out of the Trump handbook.

I really wonder how many voters had a no deal Brexit in mind when they voted leave?

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up."

It was that simple in Scotland. New Labour were Tory-lite; which they are going to have to become again, to win a UK GE.

In Scotland, we don't want that kind of Labour Party but we have an alternative left wing party to vote for; so, many of us do.

I agree with you on Liverpool, Manchester, etc and that it's bollocks that Labour are unelectable to government again.

However, it's clear from the last GE that, for Labour to win the next one, they'll have to move nearer the "centre" ground - which, since Blair, has been dragged a good bit further to the right, in order to win the vote in the south of England.

They'll also have to win back all those seats they lost due to the Brexit issue - and plan on no real help from most Scots voters.

It's achievable. If SKS actually manages it, he'll have nothing much left to prove.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"What annoys me most is Labour made themselves unelectable.

Well, temporarily, at least. They've got form, though. They made themselves unelectable in Scotland 13 years ago.

You don't win votes by telling people "We know better than you - and if you don't vote for us, you're a bad person."

That's an attitude that makes you so unelectable, that you aren't voted into power, even when the alternative is as incompetent, ignorant, irresponsible and short-sighted as our current government.

If you aren't a better option than what's been scraped from the bottom of the barrel; then that really is your own fault.

Its not really that simple.

They lost chunks of the north under new labour.

most of the big cities (liverpool,Manchester etc)they remained labour strongholds.

It was more the smaller towns who believed all that Brexit nonsense.Towns who for generations had been fucked over by tories but decided to vote for then en masse.

I've said it a million times before .the unelectable bit is total bollocks.They forced may into a minority gmnt and got a whole generation into politics.

Brexit and labours unwilling to recognise its importance fucked it up.

I think Cambridge Analytica proved something. A die hard Tory will never vote Labour if their life depended on it. And vice versa. No argument will change their vote.

I tried earlier in 5he thread to say this bur Lionel won't accept that corbyn was their biggest problem not brexit"

The fact that the media portrayed corbyn to be the anti christ and simpletons believed it,was certainly an issue.