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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." " Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if it presses ahead with the move. That's great. We won't trade with Europe. Won't trade with America. Sweet. I hope you guys enjoy the Brexit you fought so hard for. 2021 is going to be brilliant! Hard Brexit. IR35. Tax hikes. And another 4 years of Trump in the Whitehouse. Yay. | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, warned there will be “absolutely no chance” of a US-UK trade deal if it presses ahead with the move. That's great. We won't trade with Europe. Won't trade with America. Sweet. I hope you guys enjoy the Brexit you fought so hard for. 2021 is going to be brilliant! Hard Brexit. IR35. Tax hikes. And another 4 years of Trump in the Whitehouse. Yay." Fun times. | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." " The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want? | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want?" The eu have not admitted to breaking the law. We have. | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want?" Kin ell Emma what sort of warped vision of reality is that? How do you get from the government admitting they will break a treaty they were saying 10 months ago was why they should be the ones to get Brexit done, that is now law to 'its the EU's fault..? | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want?" You need to have a word with yourself . The definition of Anarchy is not abiding by law! | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want?" It’s not the first time you British have broken a treaty and went back on your word Limerick isn’t named the treaty city by chance | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want? It’s not the first time you British have broken a treaty and went back on your word Limerick isn’t named the treaty city by chance " Why what happened? | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want? It’s not the first time you British have broken a treaty and went back on your word Limerick isn’t named the treaty city by chance Why what happened?" The treaty of limerick 1691 marked the end of the Williamite wars in Ireland. The English broke the treaty before the ink was dry and saw the beginning of what was known as the Penal Laws and established the Protestant ascendancy that ruled Ireland up to 1916. | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want? It’s not the first time you British have broken a treaty and went back on your word Limerick isn’t named the treaty city by chance Why what happened? The treaty of limerick 1691 marked the end of the Williamite wars in Ireland. The English broke the treaty before the ink was dry and saw the beginning of what was known as the Penal Laws and established the Protestant ascendancy that ruled Ireland up to 1916. " Ahh I never knew that. | |||
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"I wonder if Boris Cummings and his/their associates listened to Judas Priest?" Following the news, I have been hearing that song in my head a lot lately haha | |||
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"Remember the days when we said "Death before dishonour"? I think we can safely say those days are behind us now "It's a whole new world. It's come to something when Michael Howard is saying the same thing, in the HoL, as loads of lefties (like me) have been saying since Brandon Lewis opened his mouth the other day. Maybe BoJo just wants to prove that the UK - like the USA, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc - doesn't have to abide by international law if it doesn't want to. Although, it's not like we've never done it before, eh? | |||
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"Remember the days when we said "Death before dishonour"? I think we can safely say those days are behind us now
It's a whole new world. It's come to something when Michael Howard is saying the same thing, in the HoL, as loads of lefties (like me) have been saying since Brandon Lewis opened his mouth the other day.
Maybe BoJo just wants to prove that the UK - like the USA, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc - doesn't have to abide by international law if it doesn't want to.
Although, it's not like we've never done it before, eh?"I think you're right. There's a lot of posturing going on. I can see us in a few years time in a state of total economic collapse saying "Yeah we showed them who's boss"! | |||
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"Emma, if the government break the law, and even admit they're breaking the law, doesn't that rather invite the anarchy you so fear?"
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want? It’s not the first time you British have broken a treaty and went back on your word Limerick isn’t named the treaty city by chance Why what happened? The treaty of limerick 1691 marked the end of the Williamite wars in Ireland. The English broke the treaty before the ink was dry and saw the beginning of what was known as the Penal Laws and established the Protestant ascendancy that ruled Ireland up to 1916. Ahh I never knew that." I often wonder how many of us think of the Treaty of Limerick beyond the words 'The Treaty broken ere the link with which 'twas written could dry'. Did we ever take a deep look at the words of the Treaty or what happened when it was broken. Strange as it may seem, in the circumstances under which it was made, the treaty itself was fair enough, it was in the aftermath of its signing that things went wrong. William of Orange had declared that he had come to Ireland to help Protestants but not to persecute Catholics. The main provisions of the Treaty were - 1. Roman Catholics were to have the same freedom rights as under the reign of Charles II. 2.Those in arms for King James were to keep any estates they had at the time and to be free to exercise their calling and professionals without hindrance. 3.The Irish Garison in Limerick was free to march out of the city with colours flying and drums beating and with weapons and baggage. The soldiers were permitted to go to any foreign country they liked or to join William's army. (Of the garrison of Limerick about 20,000 entered the French army, 1,000 joined William's army and 2,000 returned home.) William restored many of the Irish their land and granted others pardons but he rewarded his own troops very well. Ginkel was made Earl of Athlone with an estate of 26,000 acres and others were also well rewarded. It was in 1692 that the real harm was done. In October of that year Lord Sidney, the Lord Lieutenant, summoned a parliament meeting in Dublin. This was a year after the Treaty of Limerick and the parliament was all Protestants. This was the result of a clause which said that every member had to take such an oath. (According to the Treaty they were only obliged to take an oath of allegiance.) Sidney, representing the King, opposed this motion but was out-voted and as a result all the Catholics walked out. One of the first things this parliament did was to declare itself independent of the English Parliament. Lord Sidney was so angry at this snub to the English Parliament that he suspended the Dublin parliament twice and finally dissolved it in November of 1693. In 1695 a new Lord Lieutenant, Lord Capel was appointed and he at once summoned a new parliament which sat for several sessions, and it was during these sessions that the Penal Laws were really brought in to the country in a manner which, to say the least, was almost inhumane where Catholics were concerned. It was this set of Penal laws that was to remain in force until the Catholic Emancipation Act was passed in 1829. One of the first acts of this parliament was to tear holes in the Treaty and although their acts went through the house of commons easily enough, some peers, seven bishops and seven laymen condemned this braking of the Treaty. It was the opening of the door to really grinding the Catholic population into the dust as one bill followed another in quick succession, one worse than the other. Some of the most important bills were 2. Catholic parents were forbidden to send their children abroad for education. 3. Catholics had to hand in their arms, and magistrates could forcibly enter homes to search for arms. 4. If a Catholic had a valuable horse any Protestant who offered £5 for it had to be given it. 5. All existing parish priests had to be registered and were not allowed to have curates. 6. All other clergy - bishops, priests, member of religious orders, etc, had to leave the kingdom by 1st of May 1698. (These last two laws meant that after existing Catholic clergy died out there would be none to take their place). 7. Catholic priests who came into the country could be hanged. 8. Catholics were forbidden to travel more than eight kilometres from home, to keep arms, to take cases to court, or to be guardians or executors of wills. 9. Catholics were forbidden to wear swords. These are only a few of the Penal Laws but they were only the first installment; worse was to come. When the Duke of Ormond became Lord Lieutenant he passed further penal regulations. 1. If the eldest son of a Catholic declared himself a Protestant he became owner of all his father’s land. 2. On the death of a Catholic landowner all his property had to be divided between his sons. 3. If any other son declared he was a Protestant he was placed in the care of Protestant guardian and his father had to pay all the expenses for his upkeep. 4. No Catholic was allowed to vote with out first taking an oath that the Catholic religion was false. Later on they were not allowed to vote under any circumstances. In a court a Catholic would come before a Protestant judge and jury and he represented by a Protestant lawyer. The Lord Chief Justice Robinson declared, 'The world does nor suppose any such person to exist as an Irish Roman Catholic.' (It must be remembered that elsewhere in Europe similar penal laws were passed by Catholics against Protestants and Protestants against Catholics.) The Penal Laws had the effect of eroding respect for the law among the Irish. It must be remembered that the ordinary Protestant had no responsibility for the enactment of the Penal Laws and in many instances actively circumvented them. The foregoing was just part of the conditions at the time in Ireland. Today Protestants and Catholics live as good neighbours should and are prepared to help each other in times of trouble. Let us hope that the future will be as we would all like it be be, a time of peace and goodwill in every part of Ireland. | |||
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"Talking about proposals to override the Withdrawal Agreement, Brandon Lewis, N. Ireland Secretary, stood up in the House of Commons and announced : "Yes this does break international law, in a very specific and limited way..." The two faced EU most of them do not obey there own rules. Government make the rules that or anarchy,is that what you want? It’s not the first time you British have broken a treaty and went back on your word Limerick isn’t named the treaty city by chance Why what happened? The treaty of limerick 1691 marked the end of the Williamite wars in Ireland. The English broke the treaty before the ink was dry and saw the beginning of what was known as the Penal Laws and established the Protestant ascendancy that ruled Ireland up to 1916. Ahh I never knew that. I often wonder how many of us think of the Treaty of Limerick beyond the words 'The Treaty broken ere the link with which 'twas written could dry'. Did we ever take a deep look at the words of the Treaty or what happened when it was broken. Strange as it may seem, in the circumstances under which it was made, the treaty itself was fair enough, it was in the aftermath of its signing that things went wrong. William of Orange had declared that he had come to Ireland to help Protestants but not to persecute Catholics. The main provisions of the Treaty were - 1. Roman Catholics were to have the same freedom rights as under the reign of Charles II. 2.Those in arms for King James were to keep any estates they had at the time and to be free to exercise their calling and professionals without hindrance. 3.The Irish Garison in Limerick was free to march out of the city with colours flying and drums beating and with weapons and baggage. The soldiers were permitted to go to any foreign country they liked or to join William's army. (Of the garrison of Limerick about 20,000 entered the French army, 1,000 joined William's army and 2,000 returned home.) William restored many of the Irish their land and granted others pardons but he rewarded his own troops very well. Ginkel was made Earl of Athlone with an estate of 26,000 acres and others were also well rewarded. It was in 1692 that the real harm was done. In October of that year Lord Sidney, the Lord Lieutenant, summoned a parliament meeting in Dublin. This was a year after the Treaty of Limerick and the parliament was all Protestants. This was the result of a clause which said that every member had to take such an oath. (According to the Treaty they were only obliged to take an oath of allegiance.) Sidney, representing the King, opposed this motion but was out-voted and as a result all the Catholics walked out. One of the first things this parliament did was to declare itself independent of the English Parliament. Lord Sidney was so angry at this snub to the English Parliament that he suspended the Dublin parliament twice and finally dissolved it in November of 1693. In 1695 a new Lord Lieutenant, Lord Capel was appointed and he at once summoned a new parliament which sat for several sessions, and it was during these sessions that the Penal Laws were really brought in to the country in a manner which, to say the least, was almost inhumane where Catholics were concerned. It was this set of Penal laws that was to remain in force until the Catholic Emancipation Act was passed in 1829. One of the first acts of this parliament was to tear holes in the Treaty and although their acts went through the house of commons easily enough, some peers, seven bishops and seven laymen condemned this braking of the Treaty. It was the opening of the door to really grinding the Catholic population into the dust as one bill followed another in quick succession, one worse than the other. Some of the most important bills were 2. Catholic parents were forbidden to send their children abroad for education. 3. Catholics had to hand in their arms, and magistrates could forcibly enter homes to search for arms. 4. If a Catholic had a valuable horse any Protestant who offered £5 for it had to be given it. 5. All existing parish priests had to be registered and were not allowed to have curates. 6. All other clergy - bishops, priests, member of religious orders, etc, had to leave the kingdom by 1st of May 1698. (These last two laws meant that after existing Catholic clergy died out there would be none to take their place). 7. Catholic priests who came into the country could be hanged. 8. Catholics were forbidden to travel more than eight kilometres from home, to keep arms, to take cases to court, or to be guardians or executors of wills. 9. Catholics were forbidden to wear swords. These are only a few of the Penal Laws but they were only the first installment; worse was to come. When the Duke of Ormond became Lord Lieutenant he passed further penal regulations. 1. If the eldest son of a Catholic declared himself a Protestant he became owner of all his father’s land. 2. On the death of a Catholic landowner all his property had to be divided between his sons. 3. If any other son declared he was a Protestant he was placed in the care of Protestant guardian and his father had to pay all the expenses for his upkeep. 4. No Catholic was allowed to vote with out first taking an oath that the Catholic religion was false. Later on they were not allowed to vote under any circumstances. In a court a Catholic would come before a Protestant judge and jury and he represented by a Protestant lawyer. The Lord Chief Justice Robinson declared, 'The world does nor suppose any such person to exist as an Irish Roman Catholic.' (It must be remembered that elsewhere in Europe similar penal laws were passed by Catholics against Protestants and Protestants against Catholics.) The Penal Laws had the effect of eroding respect for the law among the Irish. It must be remembered that the ordinary Protestant had no responsibility for the enactment of the Penal Laws and in many instances actively circumvented them. The foregoing was just part of the conditions at the time in Ireland. Today Protestants and Catholics live as good neighbours should and are prepared to help each other in times of trouble. Let us hope that the future will be as we would all like it be be, a time of peace and goodwill in every part of Ireland. " Interesting and thought provoking read. Thanks for posting. Yet again religious zealots causing pain and suffering. Today around the world nothing seems to change. | |||
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"Remember the days when we said "Death before dishonour"? I think we can safely say those days are behind us now
It's a whole new world. It's come to something when Michael Howard is saying the same thing, in the HoL, as loads of lefties (like me) have been saying since Brandon Lewis opened his mouth the other day.
Maybe BoJo just wants to prove that the UK - like the USA, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc - doesn't have to abide by international law if it doesn't want to.
Although, it's not like we've never done it before, eh?
I think you're right. There's a lot of posturing going on.
I can see us in a few years time in a state of total economic collapse saying "Yeah we showed them who's boss"!"It's BoJo's incessant ego problems, his zealot desire to end up as a Churchill-esque statue one day. It flies in the face of the Conservative track record. The Conservative party is bankrolled by foreign millionaires, has reduced the City of London to a glorified currency exchange, have plans to make us a tax haven (research the free ports proposals), in essence making Britain a country that produces nothing of value (no steel, no cars, just weapons for the Saudis) but can definitely clean your dirty money. All while presenting this facade of chest beating jingoism, that 'Britain will not be cowed by Brussels' etc. Well its working because Britain is being brought to its knees quite well by its own Government, thankyou. The pound has devalued so much in the last decade that it wont be long until there is a captive workforce who cant relocate abroad when things get really bad, because our stagnant wages are worth nothing abroad and they've burned all the bridges. Then we will be the migrants trying to cross the channel. (Lets enrage some libs!) | |||
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"Remember the days when we said "Death before dishonour"? I think we can safely say those days are behind us now
It's a whole new world. It's come to something when Michael Howard is saying the same thing, in the HoL, as loads of lefties (like me) have been saying since Brandon Lewis opened his mouth the other day.
Maybe BoJo just wants to prove that the UK - like the USA, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc - doesn't have to abide by international law if it doesn't want to.
Although, it's not like we've never done it before, eh?
I think you're right. There's a lot of posturing going on.
I can see us in a few years time in a state of total economic collapse saying "Yeah we showed them who's boss"!
It's BoJo's incessant ego problems, his zealot desire to end up as a Churchill-esque statue one day. It flies in the face of the Conservative track record. The Conservative party is bankrolled by foreign millionaires, has reduced the City of London to a glorified currency exchange, have plans to make us a tax haven (research the free ports proposals), in essence making Britain a country that produces nothing of value (no steel, no cars, just weapons for the Saudis) but can definitely clean your dirty money. All while presenting this facade of chest beating jingoism, that 'Britain will not be cowed by Brussels' etc.
Well its working because Britain is being brought to its knees quite well by its own Government, thankyou.
The pound has devalued so much in the last decade that it wont be long until there is a captive workforce who cant relocate abroad when things get really bad, because our stagnant wages are worth nothing abroad and they've burned all the bridges. Then we will be the migrants trying to cross the channel.
(Lets enrage some libs!)"There was a piece in the guardian the other day about the amount of dirty money they is coming through london. | |||
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"Remember the days when we said "Death before dishonour"? I think we can safely say those days are behind us now
It's a whole new world. It's come to something when Michael Howard is saying the same thing, in the HoL, as loads of lefties (like me) have been saying since Brandon Lewis opened his mouth the other day.
Maybe BoJo just wants to prove that the UK - like the USA, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc - doesn't have to abide by international law if it doesn't want to.
Although, it's not like we've never done it before, eh?
I think you're right. There's a lot of posturing going on.
I can see us in a few years time in a state of total economic collapse saying "Yeah we showed them who's boss"!
It's BoJo's incessant ego problems, his zealot desire to end up as a Churchill-esque statue one day. It flies in the face of the Conservative track record. The Conservative party is bankrolled by foreign millionaires, has reduced the City of London to a glorified currency exchange, have plans to make us a tax haven (research the free ports proposals), in essence making Britain a country that produces nothing of value (no steel, no cars, just weapons for the Saudis) but can definitely clean your dirty money. All while presenting this facade of chest beating jingoism, that 'Britain will not be cowed by Brussels' etc.
Well its working because Britain is being brought to its knees quite well by its own Government, thankyou.
The pound has devalued so much in the last decade that it wont be long until there is a captive workforce who cant relocate abroad when things get really bad, because our stagnant wages are worth nothing abroad and they've burned all the bridges. Then we will be the migrants trying to cross the channel.
(Lets enrage some libs!)"The City effectively now stands as money launderer of the world, described now as the capital of the global crime scene. It is the heart and engine of the offshore haven, with Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man its european collection centres, the caribbean and others hoovering up billions of American dollars from all over the globe. Whilst there are good and legal reasons for offshore accounts, it has a dark and shadowy client list; terrorists, drug barons, arms dealers, despots, dictators, shady politicians, corporations and companies, millionaires and billionaires – most with something to hide. | |||
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"Basically we are bankrupting ourselves and generations to come in order that we can protect the ill gotten gains of some of the world's most evil people. Makes me so proud!" Fun times, eh? | |||
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"Basically we are bankrupting ourselves and generations to come in order that we can protect the ill gotten gains of some of the world's most evil people. Makes me so proud! Fun times, eh?" It makes me want to cry. | |||
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"Basically we are bankrupting ourselves and generations to come in order that we can protect the ill gotten gains of some of the world's most evil people. Makes me so proud!" The idea that the gmnt dont know what is going on Is also absurd. And we have the cheek to lecture other countries on morality. | |||
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"Basically we are bankrupting ourselves and generations to come in order that we can protect the ill gotten gains of some of the world's most evil people. Makes me so proud! Fun times, eh? It makes me want to cry." Making remainers cry would probably be the only real benefit brexiters can point to. | |||
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"I really hope the EU fucks the UK government just as hard as BJ & Co fuck us every single day. And fuck them dry, no lube. In fact, use sand. " That's SO kinky!!! 
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"I really hope the EU fucks the UK government just as hard as BJ & Co fuck us every single day. And fuck them dry, no lube. In fact, use sand. " Sadly, that would fuck us, too. And it feels like this is all part of the plan. If the UK government piss off the EU to the point the EU retaliate, the UK gov can then turn around and say eg "Look how unreasonable they're being! No deal it is!" | |||
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"Basically we are bankrupting ourselves and generations to come in order that we can protect the ill gotten gains of some of the world's most evil people. Makes me so proud! Fun times, eh? It makes me want to cry. Making remainers cry would probably be the only real benefit brexiters can point to." Alan Paton wrote a book opposing apartheid called "Cry the beloved country" To be honest I, personally will be fine, in fact probably make good money out of Brexit. But I have good friends whom I love very dearly that are barely on the breadline as it is. My heart breaks for the beautiful hard working people who really deserve a better life. I'm not just talking Brexit here, but the state of the Nation as a whole. I feel like we are being pillaged by our own. | |||
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"I really hope the EU fucks the UK government just as hard as BJ & Co fuck us every single day. And fuck them dry, no lube. In fact, use sand. Sadly, that would fuck us, too. And it feels like this is all part of the plan. If the UK government piss off the EU to the point the EU retaliate, the UK gov can then turn around and say eg "Look how unreasonable they're being! No deal it is!" " And we will lap it all up. Hook. Line. Sinker. | |||
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"I really hope the EU fucks the UK government just as hard as BJ & Co fuck us every single day. And fuck them dry, no lube. In fact, use sand. Sadly, that would fuck us, too. And it feels like this is all part of the plan. If the UK government piss off the EU to the point the EU retaliate, the UK gov can then turn around and say eg "Look how unreasonable they're being! No deal it is!" And we will lap it all up. Hook. Line. Sinker." Only the stupid will | |||
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"Remember the days when we said "Death before dishonour"? I think we can safely say those days are behind us now
It's a whole new world. It's come to something when Michael Howard is saying the same thing, in the HoL, as loads of lefties (like me) have been saying since Brandon Lewis opened his mouth the other day.
Maybe BoJo just wants to prove that the UK - like the USA, China, Russia, Israel, Iran, etc - doesn't have to abide by international law if it doesn't want to.
Although, it's not like we've never done it before, eh?
I think you're right. There's a lot of posturing going on.
I can see us in a few years time in a state of total economic collapse saying "Yeah we showed them who's boss"!"And, even then, they still wouldn't let us have an IndyRef2. Why should we be spared? LOL | |||
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"I really hope the EU fucks the UK government just as hard as BJ & Co fuck us every single day. And fuck them dry, no lube. In fact, use sand. Sadly, that would fuck us, too. And it feels like this is all part of the plan. If the UK government piss off the EU to the point the EU retaliate, the UK gov can then turn around and say eg "Look how unreasonable they're being! No deal it is!" And we will lap it all up. Hook. Line. Sinker. Only the stupid will "No I won't! | |||
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"Before the election Johnson sacked every tory who didn't support the deal. Now he's going to have to threaten to sack every tory that DOES support the deal. Pre-election Johnson would have withdrawn the whip from his current self. " 
And as for him saying there should be no party squabbles over this.. 
Me thinks the stabber in the back will have some revenging chickens coming home to roost.. | |||
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"Most EU countries break treaties on a daily basis. Failing to spend 2% of GDP on defence is a NATO commitment that only the UK, France, USA and Canada uphold. France breaks EU law on fishing and animal welfare, Spain on fishing quotas. I guess we should re-join the EU and split up our nation to appease those who do not believe in. Democracy.....eg those other great anti democratic European leaders...... you know, the ones that the UK bankrupting itself defeating for a more democratic and equal society. " Isnt there a bit of a difference between failing to meet a commitment and actually breaking the law? We should be experts by now in not meeting targets. | |||
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"Most EU countries break treaties on a daily basis. Failing to spend 2% of GDP on defence is a NATO commitment that only the UK, France, USA and Canada uphold. France breaks EU law on fishing and animal welfare, Spain on fishing quotas. I guess we should re-join the EU and split up our nation to appease those who do not believe in. Democracy.....eg those other great anti democratic European leaders...... you know, the ones that the UK bankrupting itself defeating for a more democratic and equal society. " Firstly, the idea that the public purse is bankrupting itself for any reason other than corruption is bunkum. We charge some of the lowest capital gains tax in the EU. There's proposals to drop ALL tax on tech companies. At the drop of a hat, the Government housed ALL rough sleepers this year. They've frittered away Captain Tom Moore's incredible charity dozens of times over on bad PPE and failed track n trace systems. These are not the actions of a Government running low on funds. Secondly, and this is important, the United Kingdom is not a given. You can't force Scotland, Northern Ireland or Wales to be in the Union unless you're prepared to declare war. If you live in England you aren't getting an accurate picture of how Whitehall is treating the devolved nations. Look it up. It's appalling. I'm an Englishman living in Wales and I think it's shameful how bullying and wheedling Johnson's Government is. Whitehall needs to learn to co-operate in the Union if it hopes to keep Britain United. Their actions this year are making a strong case for seperation. | |||
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"Most EU countries break treaties on a daily basis. Failing to spend 2% of GDP on defence is a NATO commitment that only the UK, France, USA and Canada uphold. France breaks EU law on fishing and animal welfare, Spain on fishing quotas. I guess we should re-join the EU and split up our nation to appease those who do not believe in. Democracy.....eg those other great anti democratic European leaders...... you know, the ones that the UK bankrupting itself defeating for a more democratic and equal society. " You need to look up the difference between a commitment and a treaty | |||
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"Most EU countries break treaties on a daily basis. Failing to spend 2% of GDP on defence is a NATO commitment that only the UK, France, USA and Canada uphold. France breaks EU law on fishing and animal welfare, Spain on fishing quotas. I guess we should re-join the EU and split up our nation to appease those who do not believe in. Democracy.....eg those other great anti democratic European leaders...... you know, the ones that the UK bankrupting itself defeating for a more democratic and equal society. " The UK broke international law over 50 years ago and still waiting for action to be taken. Germany has it written into the constitution that it can break international law if its not in its interests and goes against Germany's constitution. The EU has so far not taken any action against Germany | |||
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"Far too many people believe in fairies" But we have to! Otherwise, they cease to exist! (Actually, maybe similar reasoning applies to believing in Brexit, Trump, Johnson etc. If we stop believing in them, they cease being so wonderful.) | |||
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"Far too many people believe in fairies But we have to! Otherwise, they cease to exist! (Actually, maybe similar reasoning applies to believing in Brexit, Trump, Johnson etc. If we stop believing in them, they cease being so wonderful.)" Now that is stretching the imagination | |||
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