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"A direct quote from Johnson's twitter: "A free press is vital in holding the government and other powerful institutions to account on issues critical for the future of our country, including the fight against climate change." And yet, here are a few facts that are easy to look up ... He dodged being interviewed by Andrew Neil during his election campaign. He hid in a fridge to avoid answering GMB. He conspired to have a journalist beaten up. Journalists walked out of a briefing on Johnson’s Brexit plans after his director of communications tried restricting it to selected publications and broadcasters. The UK government has been formally warned for threatening press freedom after it blacklisted a group of investigative journalists and denied them access to information. " I'm sure he will be pulled up on this oversight any day now . | |||
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"How many shows/broadcasters did Johnson et al boycott too?" He hid in a fridge | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() Fuck me, you're equating the role, function and purpose of the press in a democracy to expecting a response on a swingers forum. That is bizarre beyond description and shows a piss poor understanding of how a democracy works. The only point I will agree with is that it's not a legal obligation to talk to the press, its a choice. Declining that choice speaks volumes in itself. | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() When the press ask Government ministers questions then that is on the behalf of the general public. The voting public put these individuals in their jobs, jobs they wanted so yes I do believe Government ministers to a large extent do have an obligation to answer most questions put too them. | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() How does gagging journalists tie in with this? | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() It doesn't. However, there are certain circumstances a gagging order is in the greater interest. Gagging to hide the fact you're shagging rent boys or trying to get out of a speeding ticket, not acceptable. | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() It was an effort to show simplistic comparison. Too simple for you by the looks. ![]() | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() When is it acceptable? And I'm not talking bout gagging orders. I mean when they try to ban journalists who are seen as 'too critical'. | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() In an ideal world I'd say it's never acceptable. But we've all seen journalists chipping away at the slightest, smallest thing, over and over again, trying to score political points. The Covid briefings are a great example, asking exactly the same question over and over, when it's been answered perfectly reasonably. Those who are there to ask genuine questions, no matter how searching should be welcomed. Those who's aim it is to cause mischief, less welcome. Part of the problem, IMHO, is that most of today's journalists aren't really up to snuff. E | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() Not forgetting, a journalists role isn't to criticize, it's to investigate. So yes, if all they're doing is stirring the pot for their own agenda, why make them welcome? E | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() I agree it's to investigate but also to scrutinise. Which is quite hard when you have a prime minister who wont answer a simple question. When you have a gmnt which starts to ban journalists from asking awkward questions, you are going down a very dangerous path. | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() ![]() Dial back with the ad hominems, please and thanks. It doesn't help your argument. If simplistic is a synonym for absurd, I would agree with you, but its not. | |||
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"A direct quote from Johnson's twitter: "A free press is vital in holding the government and other powerful institutions to account on issues critical for the future of our country, including the fight against climate change." And yet, here are a few facts that are easy to look up ... He dodged being interviewed by Andrew Neil during his election campaign. He hid in a fridge to avoid answering GMB. He conspired to have a journalist beaten up. Journalists walked out of a briefing on Johnson’s Brexit plans after his director of communications tried restricting it to selected publications and broadcasters. The UK government has been formally warned for threatening press freedom after it blacklisted a group of investigative journalists and denied them access to information. " Lack of understanding here. He has never censored the free press Just critisised them and ignored them so no double standards you are twisting things to your own agenda | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() ![]() I've not argued about anything, why you're trying to make it look like I am is beyond me. While you're on the subject of dialling back, you can do so with the insults. E | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() ![]() Argument: a reason or set of reasons given in support of an idea, action or theory. English is your first language? | |||
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"A direct quote from Johnson's twitter: "A free press is vital in holding the government and other powerful institutions to account on issues critical for the future of our country, including the fight against climate change." And yet, here are a few facts that are easy to look up ... He dodged being interviewed by Andrew Neil during his election campaign. He hid in a fridge to avoid answering GMB. He conspired to have a journalist beaten up. Journalists walked out of a briefing on Johnson’s Brexit plans after his director of communications tried restricting it to selected publications and broadcasters. The UK government has been formally warned for threatening press freedom after it blacklisted a group of investigative journalists and denied them access to information. Lack of understanding here. He has never censored the free press Just critisised them and ignored them so no double standards you are twisting things to your own agenda" All the things I listed are verifiable facts. | |||
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"Just catching up with this morning's MARR program. Apparently the leader of XR has admitted they have made a mistake as the presses shut down also print other papers to. Also that XR has been infiltrated by hard left groups" Shutting the sun down? Should give them a medal. | |||
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"Just catching up with this morning's MARR program. Apparently the leader of XR has admitted they have made a mistake as the presses shut down also print other papers to. Also that XR has been infiltrated by hard left groups Shutting the sun down? Should give them a medal." According to the leader if XR they inadvertently shut down other papers too that are or at least were more supportive of them. | |||
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"Just catching up with this morning's MARR program. Apparently the leader of XR has admitted they have made a mistake as the presses shut down also print other papers to. Also that XR has been infiltrated by hard left groups Shutting the sun down? Should give them a medal. According to the leader if XR they inadvertently shut down other papers too that are or at least were more supportive of them. " I wouldn't hold that against them. I read somewhere the sun wasn't even making a profit now. | |||
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" Not forgetting, a journalists role isn't to criticize, it's to investigate. " Completely untrue. | |||
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"Just catching up with this morning's MARR program. Apparently the leader of XR has admitted they have made a mistake as the presses shut down also print other papers to. Also that XR has been infiltrated by hard left groups Shutting the sun down? Should give them a medal. According to the leader if XR they inadvertently shut down other papers too that are or at least were more supportive of them. I wouldn't hold that against them. I read somewhere the sun wasn't even making a profit now." You may not care but those that work at the other papers may care. As said the leader admitted they made a mistake and have been infiltrated by the hard left | |||
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"Just catching up with this morning's MARR program. Apparently the leader of XR has admitted they have made a mistake as the presses shut down also print other papers to. Also that XR has been infiltrated by hard left groups Shutting the sun down? Should give them a medal. According to the leader if XR they inadvertently shut down other papers too that are or at least were more supportive of them. I wouldn't hold that against them. I read somewhere the sun wasn't even making a profit now. You may not care but those that work at the other papers may care. As said the leader admitted they made a mistake and have been infiltrated by the hard left" Just giving my opinion. I'm fairly sure xr were quote left wing to start off with so blaming a few left wing radicals smells a bit fishy. | |||
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"Just catching up with this morning's MARR program. Apparently the leader of XR has admitted they have made a mistake as the presses shut down also print other papers to. Also that XR has been infiltrated by hard left groups Shutting the sun down? Should give them a medal. According to the leader if XR they inadvertently shut down other papers too that are or at least were more supportive of them. I wouldn't hold that against them. I read somewhere the sun wasn't even making a profit now. You may not care but those that work at the other papers may care. As said the leader admitted they made a mistake and have been infiltrated by the hard left Just giving my opinion. I'm fairly sure xr were quote left wing to start off with so blaming a few left wing radicals smells a bit fishy." Yes expect they are left wing but now been infiltrated by hard left people. It was not me blaming them it was the leader of XR | |||
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"Having a free press doesn't automatically mean anyone is obliged to answer questions or give interviews. It means it's free to ask, to comment, to report, without sanction or censure. I think people often see a free press as some sort of legal obligation to reply. It's not. Bit like Fab. People have the freedom to message us, we have no requirement to answer. ![]() ![]() ![]() Yes it is. Nice to see you're dialling back with the insults. ![]() | |||
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"And of course you only need to tune in to Channel 4 news or Newsnight everyday to hear the usual ‘we asked the government to join us tonight but nobody was available. They like the free press providing it’s the right wing rags. When it comes to other media, their principles don’t seem to hold up." This, really. They weren't doing the Today programme on R4, pre-Covid, either. Bottom line, the government isn't curtailing the press; they just don't want to be held to scrutiny by the parts of it that don't automatically support them. In that way, they're like any other government. | |||
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