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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Another group of people who will win when there is no agreement with the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/terrorists-and-organized-crime-will-be-the-winners-of-a-no-deal-brexit/

Are the tories ready to sacrifice the safety of British society?

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,


"Another group of people who will win when there is no agreement with the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/terrorists-and-organized-crime-will-be-the-winners-of-a-no-deal-brexit/

Are the tories ready to sacrifice the safety of British society?"

I was a Tory supporter, but did not vote for these loads of Tory cretins they don't give a toss and want a no deal. Just hope it bites them in butt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Either way and whichever way you vote something needs to be done so we can all move on otherwise it'll be more of the same uncertainty. It's been nothing but a shambles the vote was to leave so something should have been in place long ago.

Boris has done more in his first year than May ever did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Either way and whichever way you vote something needs to be done so we can all move on otherwise it'll be more of the same uncertainty. It's been nothing but a shambles the vote was to leave so something should have been in place long ago.

Boris has done more in his first year than May ever did. "

Like what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Either way and whichever way you vote something needs to be done so we can all move on otherwise it'll be more of the same uncertainty. It's been nothing but a shambles the vote was to leave so something should have been in place long ago.

Boris has done more in his first year than May ever did.

Like what? "

He's certainly done more lying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't the majority lie name one mp who doesn't ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't the majority lie name one mp who doesn't ? "

Everybody lies at times. But when it comes to lying on the job, Johnson's in a class of his own. He was fired more than once for lying before being an MP. And as PM, his lies have been relentless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(His lies were relentless as an MP too. I should have said that as well.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not just lying on the job in politics what about the media all the fake news surely that's more worrying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

"

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not just lying on the job in politics what about the media all the fake news surely that's more worrying"

I'm rather worried that my leader seems willing to lie about anything, personally. That could be a bad thing in, oh say, a pandemic. You know, a time when openess, clarity and trust are such important things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And would you be talking about all the fake news that smeared Corbyn so often? I agree that sort of thing is a real problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or are you talking about the fake news Johnson personally wrote as a journalist? I agree that's a problem too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

"

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef."

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

"

You do realise Boris won’t complete a full term as PM, he will be off as soon as Brexit is supposedly ‘done ‘

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum"

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

"

I literally told you how he got his deal. He ditched the backstop so that NI would remain alligned with the EU for years. ie he gave the EU what they wanted. (Isn't this the man who you said would take no prisoners?)

And the things I said I got by reading and watching what happened. You could too if you wanted.

You don't think anybody could do much better? Almost every country in the world has done better than us during this pandemic.

And you think this gov is forthright? They've governed by lies and spin.

And yes I'm sure Johnson is popular with his supporters. That doesn't change the fact he's incompetent and an inveterate liar. And yes Blair lied too. But that hardly absolves Johnson for his lies and all the deaths that have happened on his watch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That remains to be seen and if he does he'd have done what he set out to do and get brexit done which is what the country voted for we'll still have a working tory majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That remains to be seen and if he does he'd have done what he set out to do and get brexit done which is what the country voted for we'll still have a working tory majority.

"

And when will Brexit be ‘done ‘ ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That remains to be seen and if he does he'd have done what he set out to do and get brexit done which is what the country voted for we'll still have a working tory majority.

And when will Brexit be ‘done ‘ ? "

2 hours in the oven? Will that do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

I literally told you how he got his deal. He ditched the backstop so that NI would remain alligned with the EU for years. ie he gave the EU what they wanted. (Isn't this the man who you said would take no prisoners?)

And the things I said I got by reading and watching what happened. You could too if you wanted.

You don't think anybody could do much better? Almost every country in the world has done better than us during this pandemic.

And you think this gov is forthright? They've governed by lies and spin.

And yes I'm sure Johnson is popular with his supporters. That doesn't change the fact he's incompetent and an inveterate liar. And yes Blair lied too. But that hardly absolves Johnson for his lies and all the deaths that have happened on his watch."

What about the needless deaths at war with Iraq ?

I know how he got the deal through my question was why didn't May achieve this ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

I literally told you how he got his deal. He ditched the backstop so that NI would remain alligned with the EU for years. ie he gave the EU what they wanted. (Isn't this the man who you said would take no prisoners?)

And the things I said I got by reading and watching what happened. You could too if you wanted.

You don't think anybody could do much better? Almost every country in the world has done better than us during this pandemic.

And you think this gov is forthright? They've governed by lies and spin.

And yes I'm sure Johnson is popular with his supporters. That doesn't change the fact he's incompetent and an inveterate liar. And yes Blair lied too. But that hardly absolves Johnson for his lies and all the deaths that have happened on his watch.

What about the needless deaths at war with Iraq ?

I know how he got the deal through my question was why didn't May achieve this ? "

You think Trump is doing better than us do you if every country is doing better !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

I literally told you how he got his deal. He ditched the backstop so that NI would remain alligned with the EU for years. ie he gave the EU what they wanted. (Isn't this the man who you said would take no prisoners?)

And the things I said I got by reading and watching what happened. You could too if you wanted.

You don't think anybody could do much better? Almost every country in the world has done better than us during this pandemic.

And you think this gov is forthright? They've governed by lies and spin.

And yes I'm sure Johnson is popular with his supporters. That doesn't change the fact he's incompetent and an inveterate liar. And yes Blair lied too. But that hardly absolves Johnson for his lies and all the deaths that have happened on his watch.

What about the needless deaths at war with Iraq ?

I know how he got the deal through my question was why didn't May achieve this ? "

Because Boris (and his cronies) voted against it

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(Rewriting a reply here to end the long chain of messages.)

I agree Blair should never have dragged us into the Iraq war. You do realise if one man does a bad thing, that fact doesn't absolve another man of doing a bad thing, dont you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

I literally told you how he got his deal. He ditched the backstop so that NI would remain alligned with the EU for years. ie he gave the EU what they wanted. (Isn't this the man who you said would take no prisoners?)

And the things I said I got by reading and watching what happened. You could too if you wanted.

You don't think anybody could do much better? Almost every country in the world has done better than us during this pandemic.

And you think this gov is forthright? They've governed by lies and spin.

And yes I'm sure Johnson is popular with his supporters. That doesn't change the fact he's incompetent and an inveterate liar. And yes Blair lied too. But that hardly absolves Johnson for his lies and all the deaths that have happened on his watch.

What about the needless deaths at war with Iraq ?

I know how he got the deal through my question was why didn't May achieve this ?

Because Boris (and his cronies) voted against it "

More like she was trying to keep us close to the Eu as she could get away with which is not what we voted hence Boris gets in ditches the backstop and gets it through no probs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did say "almost" every country in the world is doing better than us on the pandemic. America is a mess right now because of Trump. Then again, I just googled per capita deaths. We are doing worse even than the USA there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Case closed goodnight

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over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

I wasn't surprised the Tories won the election with Johnson either. He'd already proved in the Brexit campaign people would believe lies and vote against their own interests. And Corbyn had been poisoned in the minds of many people due to a prolonged media smear campaign.

What makes him such a great pm in your eyes? Is it the fact he hides in fridges when journalists try to question him? Or the fact he dodges interviews with experienced interviewers who might try and scrutinise him? Or is it the fact he couldn't be bothered with COBRA meetings when a pandemic was clearly looming? Possibly he's a great pm because he's presided over the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people. Or it could be the fact he fatally undermined his own government message with the Cummings fiasco. There are so many achievements to choose from, aren't there?

PS it was easy to get the withdrawal bill. All he did was copy May's deal and ditch the backstop.

If that was so easy why did he succeed where May failed after all she had 3 attempts ?

I don't know where you get all that from but I don't think anyone could do much better in the circumstances.

I don't think people are used to a goverment that is so forthright.

The bottom line is Boris gets things done and is popular much like Blair was for labour and he lied about weapons of mass destruction.

I literally told you how he got his deal. He ditched the backstop so that NI would remain alligned with the EU for years. ie he gave the EU what they wanted. (Isn't this the man who you said would take no prisoners?)

And the things I said I got by reading and watching what happened. You could too if you wanted.

You don't think anybody could do much better? Almost every country in the world has done better than us during this pandemic.

And you think this gov is forthright? They've governed by lies and spin.

And yes I'm sure Johnson is popular with his supporters. That doesn't change the fact he's incompetent and an inveterate liar. And yes Blair lied too. But that hardly absolves Johnson for his lies and all the deaths that have happened on his watch.

What about the needless deaths at war with Iraq ?

I know how he got the deal through my question was why didn't May achieve this ?

Because Boris (and his cronies) voted against it

More like she was trying to keep us close to the Eu as she could get away with which is not what we voted hence Boris gets in ditches the backstop and gets it through no probs. "

You do realise that Boris’s and Mays deals are very similar,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there any point about repeating facts, though? You seem uninterested in them all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Case closed goodnight"

Case closed,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Case closed goodnight"

Pesky facts.

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over a year ago


"I did say "almost" every country in the world is doing better than us on the pandemic. America is a mess right now because of Trump. Then again, I just googled per capita deaths. We are doing worse even than the USA there."

What were you saying about fake news and you've just googled it !

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over a year ago


"I did say "almost" every country in the world is doing better than us on the pandemic. America is a mess right now because of Trump. Then again, I just googled per capita deaths. We are doing worse even than the USA there.

What were you saying about fake news and you've just googled it ! "

Is all the news on google fake? Bloody hell, that is a shocker

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I know May's was worse I see you seem to agree with most of what's said so on that note I'm out.

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"I did say "almost" every country in the world is doing better than us on the pandemic. America is a mess right now because of Trump. Then again, I just googled per capita deaths. We are doing worse even than the USA there.

What were you saying about fake news and you've just googled it ! "

I guess I could have tried to divine the facts by using tea leaves. Instead, I googled the stats on respected sites as well as respected news organisations.

And I think you'll find the fake news I mentioned was stuff written by the likes of Johnson and the tabloid rags.

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"I know May's was worse I see you seem to agree with most of what's said so on that note I'm out. "

How was it worse?

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"I know May's was worse I see you seem to agree with most of what's said so on that note I'm out.

How was it worse? "

Not more of that fake news I hope.

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You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ?

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"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ? "

Hmmm dunno. Sounds like it might be fake news. Can I trust it?

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For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

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"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ? "

Are they? How? And can you explain why this is a good thing, case closed, I am out

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"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world. "

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?

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over a year ago


"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ?

Hmmm dunno. Sounds like it might be fake news. Can I trust it?"

Do you not read and trust gov.uk and follow a partys own website.

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"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ?

Hmmm dunno. Sounds like it might be fake news. Can I trust it?

Do you not read and trust gov.uk and follow a partys own website. "

I don't read nothing, me. I just learned a special trick. Maybe talking to you gave me the hints of how to do it. I can just see what's going on everywhere now. I just need to hold my breath and squint really, really hard at the world.

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"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?"

It's known as a brain and observing what's going on day to day

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"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ?

Hmmm dunno. Sounds like it might be fake news. Can I trust it?

Do you not read and trust gov.uk and follow a partys own website. "

Yeah, I do, so how and when are they changing the boundaries and how will this be beneficial to the people who vote

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"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?

It's known as a brain and observing what's going on day to day"

Hmm you wanna be careful of that. What if it's 1 of them fake brains I've been hearing about? Can you trust it?

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"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?

It's known as a brain and observing what's going on day to day

Hmm you wanna be careful of that. What if it's 1 of them fake brains I've been hearing about? Can you trust it?"

very funny you should be on stage !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ?

Hmmm dunno. Sounds like it might be fake news. Can I trust it?

Do you not read and trust gov.uk and follow a partys own website.

Yeah, I do, so how and when are they changing the boundaries and how will this be beneficial to the people who vote "

As if you need to ask that ?

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over a year ago


"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?

It's known as a brain and observing what's going on day to day

Hmm you wanna be careful of that. What if it's 1 of them fake brains I've been hearing about? Can you trust it?

very funny you should be on stage ! "

Dunno about that. I wouldn't wanna risk it being one of them fake stages. I could fall right through it.

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over a year ago


"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?

It's known as a brain and observing what's going on day to day

Hmm you wanna be careful of that. What if it's 1 of them fake brains I've been hearing about? Can you trust it?

very funny you should be on stage !

Dunno about that. I wouldn't wanna risk it being one of them fake stages. I could fall right through it."

mind it's not a fake fall !

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"For the record I don't read the rags I can see what's going on in the world.

Oh cool. Do you have that superhero truth-seeing eyeball stuff? Where can I get me some?

It's known as a brain and observing what's going on day to day

Hmm you wanna be careful of that. What if it's 1 of them fake brains I've been hearing about? Can you trust it?

very funny you should be on stage !

Dunno about that. I wouldn't wanna risk it being one of them fake stages. I could fall right through it.

mind it's not a fake fall ! "

Just for you, I'll try my best to really hurt myself. I bet that would cheer you up.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 "

because most who voted in 75 are either dead or close to it lol

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"You do realise the torys are changing the boundaries when it comes to the next election ? "

so what if there changing the boundaries blair done it back when he was in charge.give it five or ten years and they will be changed again.swings and roundabouts

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

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"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 "
because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

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"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate."

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum?

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over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

because most who voted in 75 are either dead or close to it lol "

And most people who voted for Brexit in 2016 will be dead or close to it in 10 -15 years time, we will have to have another referendum

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 "

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

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over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?"

Starters for 10

What was the UK asked to vote for on in the referendum of 2016

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

Starters for 10

What was the UK asked to vote for on in the referendum of 2016 "

So you either don't know or refuse to answer the question.!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

Starters for 10

The people of the UK were asked to vote for the same thing in both referendums, what is your point?

So you either don't know or refuse to answer the question.!"

The vote in 1975 was the same as the vote in 2016,

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

Starters for 10

The people of the UK were asked to vote for the same thing in both referendums, what is your point?

So you either don't know or refuse to answer the question.!

The vote in 1975 was the same as the vote in 2016, "

Wrong answer.

Would you like to try again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

Starters for 10

The people of the UK were asked to vote for the same thing in both referendums, what is your point?

So you either don't know or refuse to answer the question.!

The vote in 1975 was the same as the vote in 2016,

Wrong answer.

Would you like to try again?"

Right answer, when did you first start believing that we should leave the EU ? and why should remain voters we respect the vote in 2016 when leave voters couldn’t respect he vote in 1875

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

Starters for 10

The people of the UK were asked to vote for the same thing in both referendums, what is your point?

So you either don't know or refuse to answer the question.!

The vote in 1975 was the same as the vote in 2016,

Wrong answer.

Would you like to try again?

Right answer, when did you first start believing that we should leave the EU ? and why should remain voters we respect the vote in 2016 when leave voters couldn’t respect he vote in 1875 "

So you don't know what the UK people voted on in 1975 referendum.!

That's OK you can Google it, at least you will find out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975

Starters for 10.

What was the UK people asked to vote on in the referendum of 1975?

Starters for 10

The people of the UK were asked to vote for the same thing in both referendums, what is your point?

So you either don't know or refuse to answer the question.!

The vote in 1975 was the same as the vote in 2016,

Wrong answer.

Would you like to try again?

Right answer, when did you first start believing that we should leave the EU ? and why should remain voters we respect the vote in 2016 when leave voters couldn’t respect he vote in 1875

So you don't know what the UK people voted on in 1975 referendum.!

That's OK you can Google it, at least you will find out. "

So you don’t know what the UK people voted for in 2016? Try google. Why didn’t you respect the ‘will of the people’ in 1975?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? "
yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will say this too I think if we could just go back to trade agreements and leave all the grand superstate designs behind I dont think we would of voted to leave, well I know I wouldn't have anyway.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say."

We have a winner. Lol

1975 was About the EEC.

The EU didn't exist until the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.

So two very different questions asked in the two referendums.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"I will say this too I think if we could just go back to trade agreements and leave all the grand superstate designs behind I dont think we would of voted to leave, well I know I wouldn't have anyway."

I totally agree.

I would have voted to stay in a trading bloc without all the other crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say."

So things have changed? If and when things change again in the following years, it would be acceptable for the Pro EU equivalent of Nigel Farage to campaign, create their own political party and force for a referendum to rejoin the EU?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

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"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair"

I agree, I have always said we will rejoin, I doubt it will take 30 years though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say.

So things have changed? If and when things change again in the following years, it would be acceptable for the Pro EU equivalent of Nigel Farage to campaign, create their own political party and force for a referendum to rejoin the EU? "
yes things have changed, I put some examples in my previous post, not writing it all again. Things may change in future but is the EU liking to just go back to being a trading block without its political agenda?, I personally don't believe so. A pro EU party could form yes and if it got enough public support maybe they could push for a referendum again, nigel didn't have to do a lot really people in this country have been asking for a vote since the maastricht treaty and whoever has been in government had always refused, both Labour and tory.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

I agree, I have always said we will rejoin, I doubt it will take 30 years though "

i didnt vote for either side so not fussed although do know some who voted to remain who wouldnt vote to rejoin unless it was how it was before we left.they not keen on rejoining lock stock and barrel so that could be a problem for a rejoin vote

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over a year ago


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

I agree, I have always said we will rejoin, I doubt it will take 30 years though

i didnt vote for either side so not fussed although do know some who voted to remain who wouldnt vote to rejoin unless it was how it was before we left.they not keen on rejoining lock stock and barrel so that could be a problem for a rejoin vote"

Only time will tell,

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

London


"Another group of people who will win when there is no agreement with the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/terrorists-and-organized-crime-will-be-the-winners-of-a-no-deal-brexit/

Are the tories ready to sacrifice the safety of British society?"

They are driving the car now and if they want to smash it into a wall that’s what they are entitled to do, get used to it

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say.

So things have changed? If and when things change again in the following years, it would be acceptable for the Pro EU equivalent of Nigel Farage to campaign, create their own political party and force for a referendum to rejoin the EU? yes things have changed, I put some examples in my previous post, not writing it all again. Things may change in future but is the EU liking to just go back to being a trading block without its political agenda?, I personally don't believe so. A pro EU party could form yes and if it got enough public support maybe they could push for a referendum again, nigel didn't have to do a lot really people in this country have been asking for a vote since the maastricht treaty and whoever has been in government had always refused, both Labour and tory."

On 20th April 2004 Tony Blair announced that a referendum would be held in due course.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Another group of people who will win when there is no agreement with the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/terrorists-and-organized-crime-will-be-the-winners-of-a-no-deal-brexit/

Are the tories ready to sacrifice the safety of British society?"
More crap from the moaners

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another group of people who will win when there is no agreement with the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/terrorists-and-organized-crime-will-be-the-winners-of-a-no-deal-brexit/

Are the tories ready to sacrifice the safety of British society?More crap from the moaners "

More delusion from the leavers

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over a year ago


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair"

What makes you think the EU would want you back?

Ever since the UK joined you’ve had an issue with the EU

Time for ye to boldly stride off into your sunny uplands

You no longer have the EU to blame for everything

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over a year ago


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

What makes you think the EU would want you back?

Ever since the UK joined you’ve had an issue with the EU

Time for ye to boldly stride off into your sunny uplands

You no longer have the EU to blame for everything

"

Good point, I would hope they would want us back but after the pathetic way we have behaved I can totally understand if they didn’t

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Another group of people who will win when there is no agreement with the EU.

https://www.politico.eu/article/terrorists-and-organized-crime-will-be-the-winners-of-a-no-deal-brexit/

Are the tories ready to sacrifice the safety of British society?More crap from the moaners "

I can see you are keeping your level

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

What makes you think the EU would want you back?

Ever since the UK joined you’ve had an issue with the EU

Time for ye to boldly stride off into your sunny uplands

You no longer have the EU to blame for everything

Good point, I would hope they would want us back but after the pathetic way we have behaved I can totally understand if they didn’t "

They know boris is an imbecile. They will forgive us

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say.

So things have changed? If and when things change again in the following years, it would be acceptable for the Pro EU equivalent of Nigel Farage to campaign, create their own political party and force for a referendum to rejoin the EU? yes things have changed, I put some examples in my previous post, not writing it all again. Things may change in future but is the EU liking to just go back to being a trading block without its political agenda?, I personally don't believe so. A pro EU party could form yes and if it got enough public support maybe they could push for a referendum again, nigel didn't have to do a lot really people in this country have been asking for a vote since the maastricht treaty and whoever has been in government had always refused, both Labour and tory."
Keep dreaming

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over a year ago


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

What makes you think the EU would want you back?

Ever since the UK joined you’ve had an issue with the EU

Time for ye to boldly stride off into your sunny uplands

You no longer have the EU to blame for everything

Good point, I would hope they would want us back but after the pathetic way we have behaved I can totally understand if they didn’t

They know boris is an imbecile. They will forgive us "

True,

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over a year ago

This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

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over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that. "

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

Mystic meg lol

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over a year ago

Only by then their will be no Eu as other countries will have left and as we were the main contributor financially it'll fold in time.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Mystic meg lol

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It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dream on kid

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. "
so your predicting that th EU will be worth joining in 20yrs that’s some foresight you’ve got there

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say.

So things have changed? If and when things change again in the following years, it would be acceptable for the Pro EU equivalent of Nigel Farage to campaign, create their own political party and force for a referendum to rejoin the EU? "

Yes as that's democracy in action. They just need to achieve it first. Might be a harder sell given it means no rebate so even higher contributions and of course having to replace the pound with the euro. Possible greater political union and EU army. If a party does it and people vote for it then why not

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. "
mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

if you ask him nicely,he give you the winning lottery numbers for next week

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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago

milton keynes


"PS Cameron didn't care about giving the voters a chance when it came to the Brexit vote. He only commited to it to appease Eurosceptics in his own party. This whole Brexit saga happened because he was worried about an internal party beef.

The point is we got the vote and I didn't see anyone else willing to give us a referendum

Why did we need a referendum? Why couldn’t people respect the democratic vote from 1975 because the EU is nothing like they common market that they voted for, and not all of us in this country want to become part of a European superstate.

Are you suggesting that things have changed since the 1975 referendum? yes of course they have changed, and quite a lot too, the 1975 vote was for joining the common market, since then the EU has been about closer political union, fiscal union etc, it is no longer just a trading agreement which is what the people in 1975 thought they were voting for, although in my opinion they were not made aware of all the facts and what the grand design for the EU was at the time either which I believe is why a lot of older voters probably voted to leave this time when they were finally given another chance to have a say.

We have a winner. Lol

1975 was About the EEC.

The EU didn't exist until the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.

So two very different questions asked in the two referendums."

Good to see someone knowing their facts.

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over a year ago


"Only by then their will be no Eu as other countries will have left and as we were the main contributor financially it'll fold in time. "

Except you weren’t

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over a year ago


"Only by then their will be no Eu as other countries will have left and as we were the main contributor financially it'll fold in time.

Except you weren’t

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments."

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!"

When they see what big shit brexshit has done in the country, they will definitely want to go back to the European Union. And we won't have to wait 20 years for it. They can already see what a mess it is.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

Mystic meg is back

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes

What's the name of this new return to the EU party? I don't seem to have come across it

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Mystic meg is back"
more like septic peg.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Mystic meg is back more like septic peg. "

I love such comments. They have a lot to do with the stupidity of boris

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

Did he say that as well then ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's the name of this new return to the EU party? I don't seem to have come across it"

Give it time, we have only just left, did you vote to leave the EU?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!"

Haha, we will be trying to rejoin in the next 20 years, get used to it

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!

Haha, we will be trying to rejoin in the next 20 years, get used to it "
wont bother me probably be dead by then

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!

When they see what big shit brexshit has done in the country, they will definitely want to go back to the European Union. And we won't have to wait 20 years for it. They can already see what a mess it is. "
in 20 yrs time a lot of remainers will of just started talking to family and old friends who voted leave do you think these ppl will want another referendum again and go through all this hatred again some how I don’t think so if we don’t join back in the next two general elections the young will no longer be young

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too? "

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!

Haha, we will be trying to rejoin in the next 20 years, get used to it wont bother me probably be dead by then "

Ah well, you had a good innings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mystic meg lol

It's pretty logical. The younger people mostly wanted to remain. So as the older leave voters, leave. The slight majority will swing the other way (if it's not already).

Obviously a little dependant on various other factors, but it seems likely to me that it will at least need to be addressed within the next two parliaments.

What's more logical is that in 20 years time these younger people would have seen how useless, wasteful and corrupt the EU is and actually decide there is no way we want to be part of that.!

Haha, we will be trying to rejoin in the next 20 years, get used to it wont bother me probably be dead by then

Ah well, you had a good innings "

fake innings

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future "
you know the older generation are petrified what you know them all lol you know there will be another vote within 20yrs any other predictions mate how about joshua versus fury ?

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over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future you know the older generation are petrified what you know them all lol you know there will be another vote within 20yrs any other predictions mate how about joshua versus fury ?"

Just get used to it, every generation gets old and becomes irrelevant, you can’t fight it just accept it. Fury knocks out Joshua in 8 rounds or less

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future "

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

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over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?"

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well."

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum,

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future you know the older generation are petrified what you know them all lol you know there will be another vote within 20yrs any other predictions mate how about joshua versus fury ?

Just get used to it, every generation gets old and becomes irrelevant, you can’t fight it just accept it. Fury knocks out Joshua in 8 rounds or less "
I get it mate we live we die think we all get that I’d say round 6 he drops AJ

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people . "

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people . "
and the young won’t be young in 20yrs time they may not want to go through all this hatred again they will have jobs house car kids brexit be just an old bad memory lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future you know the older generation are petrified what you know them all lol you know there will be another vote within 20yrs any other predictions mate how about joshua versus fury ?

Just get used to it, every generation gets old and becomes irrelevant, you can’t fight it just accept it. Fury knocks out Joshua in 8 rounds or less I get it mate we live we die think we all get that I’d say round 6 he drops AJ "

I think that is a good shout, he is to big, to clever and to skilled for Joshua,

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over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid. "

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future "
You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences "

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?"

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, "
glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

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over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus"

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

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over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum "

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . "
And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID, "

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that enough will die in order to remain.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . "
they will never be irrelevant as long as they have a vote tho you say this country treats them very badly but your posts about the old arnt much better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain. "

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 "
lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things??? "

The majority are always more relevant than the minority,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75 "

Are you arguing that we should stay out of the EU forever because we voted to leave in 2016

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, "
Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones? "

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75

Are you arguing that we should stay out of the EU forever because we voted to leave in 2016 "
Nope, and no where have I said that, as I stated before i would happily rejoin today as long as its only as a trade block, I dont buy into all the political and fiscal union shit that's all, I have no wish to become part of the super state of Europe which is clearly where its heading.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact "
Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal."

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75

Are you arguing that we should stay out of the EU forever because we voted to leave in 2016 Nope, and no where have I said that, as I stated before i would happily rejoin today as long as its only as a trade block, I dont buy into all the political and fiscal union shit that's all, I have no wish to become part of the super state of Europe which is clearly where its heading."

Is it? When we were a member state we could have vetoed any proposals, don’t you trust the current government?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. "
there you go again woth your silly perditions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. there you go again woth your silly perditions "

Why are they silly?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. "
i think millions of people who donated to captain tom and raised millions of pounds would disagree that old people are irrelevant but hey ho i guess they are not ageist either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75

Are you arguing that we should stay out of the EU forever because we voted to leave in 2016 Nope, and no where have I said that, as I stated before i would happily rejoin today as long as its only as a trade block, I dont buy into all the political and fiscal union shit that's all, I have no wish to become part of the super state of Europe which is clearly where its heading.

Is it? When we were a member state we could have vetoed any proposals, don’t you trust the current government? "
surely you can see that it is?, its not like the EU make a secret of it, the debt recovery package and the way it was done the other week was another big step towards this, and the current government may have vetoed it, but previously no they wouldnt use it, they would have continued to sign us up to things without the citizens of this country ever having a say as they have done since 1975 mate.

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over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75

Are you arguing that we should stay out of the EU forever because we voted to leave in 2016 Nope, and no where have I said that, as I stated before i would happily rejoin today as long as its only as a trade block, I dont buy into all the political and fiscal union shit that's all, I have no wish to become part of the super state of Europe which is clearly where its heading.

Is it? When we were a member state we could have vetoed any proposals, don’t you trust the current government? surely you can see that it is?, its not like the EU make a secret of it, the debt recovery package and the way it was done the other week was another big step towards this, and the current government may have vetoed it, but previously no they wouldnt use it, they would have continued to sign us up to things without the citizens of this country ever having a say as they have done since 1975 mate."

So you don’t trust the current government?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. there you go again woth your silly perditions

Why are they silly? "
because I think leave would win again but I say think you say would like it’s a fact It’s irrelevant anyway because there won’t be a second vote not for a long time if ever but that’s not a fact it’s just my opinion lol

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over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. i think millions of people who donated to captain tom and raised millions of pounds would disagree that old people are irrelevant but hey ho i guess they are not ageist either. "

Unfortunately there aren’t many Captain Toms out there, what he did was amazing, he fought in the war, how many of the ‘older generations’ that voted for Brexit can claim to have done the same??

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over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. there you go again woth your silly perditions

Why are they silly? because I think leave would win again but I say think you say would like it’s a fact It’s irrelevant anyway because there won’t be a second vote not for a long time if ever but that’s not a fact it’s just my opinion lol"

I disagree, the utter clusterfuck that has happened since 2016 and the fact we will probably leave without a deal will also prevent any other EU nation from doing the same . We are the laughing stock of Europe

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ? "

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain"

No it isn’t,

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

No it isn’t, "

According to you it is as you say older generation vote to leave and also more affected by all viruses so yes its working for remain and that's using your own theory

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. there you go again woth your silly perditions

Why are they silly? because I think leave would win again but I say think you say would like it’s a fact It’s irrelevant anyway because there won’t be a second vote not for a long time if ever but that’s not a fact it’s just my opinion lol

I disagree, the utter clusterfuck that has happened since 2016 and the fact we will probably leave without a deal will also prevent any other EU nation from doing the same . We are the laughing stock of Europe "
who is laughing at us who ? It’s a remain saying we are the laughing stock of Europe I think they have enough shit going on to be bothered about the U.K. France and Spain at the mint ire are almost begging us to lift quarantine because they need the U.K. tourists Minute that was ment to say lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

No it isn’t,

According to you it is as you say older generation vote to leave and also more affected by all viruses so yes its working for remain and that's using your own theory"

Nope, your putting words into my mouth to suit your agenda

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

No it isn’t,

According to you it is as you say older generation vote to leave and also more affected by all viruses so yes its working for remain and that's using your own theory

Nope, your putting words into my mouth to suit your agenda "

I don't need to you wrote on here the older people are more likely to vote leave. You also wrote the people are more likely to die from viruses. That's your words not mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future

In 20 years time you'll be part of the older generation yourself.

You may even have a different view on the EU by then as well.

Maybe , maybe not, things changed since the 1975 referendum, things will change from the 2016 referendum, glad you have at least accepted that things have changed since the 1975 referendum

Glad you have accepted that things have and will change from the referendum in 2016 lol yeah I have cos I voted to leave, so i wanted things to change obviously, its you that was arguing we should stay because we had a vote in 75

Are you arguing that we should stay out of the EU forever because we voted to leave in 2016 Nope, and no where have I said that, as I stated before i would happily rejoin today as long as its only as a trade block, I dont buy into all the political and fiscal union shit that's all, I have no wish to become part of the super state of Europe which is clearly where its heading.

Is it? When we were a member state we could have vetoed any proposals, don’t you trust the current government? surely you can see that it is?, its not like the EU make a secret of it, the debt recovery package and the way it was done the other week was another big step towards this, and the current government may have vetoed it, but previously no they wouldnt use it, they would have continued to sign us up to things without the citizens of this country ever having a say as they have done since 1975 mate.

So you don’t trust the current government?"
trust them in what exactly? Fairly sure I answered your question the first time or are you referring to trusting them in something else. In my opinion the vetos are useless, individual country's appear to be bullied into accepting things they may not have done because if one says no the other 20 odd put so much pressure on they cave in.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"yea have another vote in 20/30 years time about rejoining why not.people tried it for 30/40 years and decided to vote out.get a party together to vote to rejoin after we have had a cpl of decades of seeing what its like not bei.g in it.seens fair

What makes you think the EU would want you back?

Ever since the UK joined you’ve had an issue with the EU

Time for ye to boldly stride off into your sunny uplands

You no longer have the EU to blame for everything

"

think your confusding what im saying.i was rplying to someone who thought there shouldnt of been a vote because the peeps in the 70s chose to join and that should of been it.myself i not fussed if we rejoin or dont.it really not gona impact me either way

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

"

When you say he won't take any prisoners do you mean when ks makes him look like an utter bufoon (not that hard tbf) at the weekly PMq?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

When you say he won't take any prisoners do you mean when ks makes him look like an utter bufoon (not that hard tbf) at the weekly PMq?"

You're just not waving that flag hard enough. And you've got to really, really believe. Then everything will turn out great!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

No it isn’t, "

I'd be happy to have Farage as PM

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"He got the withdrawal bill on time and doesn't take any prisoners and the eu know it hence why he won such a majority.

I knew the tories would win under Boris but even I was blown away by how much.

I'm neither hard right or hard left but as far as pms go he's the best we've had in a generation compared to his predecessors.

Cameron just threw in the towel when he lost but said he'd stay and respect the vote. May was a pushover.

The only good thing about Cameron is he gave the voters the chance.

When you say he won't take any prisoners do you mean when ks makes him look like an utter bufoon (not that hard tbf) at the weekly PMq?

You're just not waving that flag hard enough. And you've got to really, really believe. Then everything will turn out great!"

His biggest strength seems to be pushing through something that will turn out to be an utter fucking disaster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

No it isn’t,

I'd be happy to have Farage as PM "

But what about your beloved Johnson? Thay can't both screw up the job at the same time.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Is this the best strategy for remain, wait for enough people to die?

No, but these are the facts, most old people voted to leave, most young people voted to remain, old people are more likely to die than young people .

So the virus is a remainer then. All sounds a bit morbid.

No, the virus is a leaver, it doesn’t care who it effects and it doesn’t care about the consequences

Clearly it does going by your statement of age groups most likely to vote be it and those most likely to die from the virus

Old people are more likely to die from every disease and virus, not just COVID,

Yes but you clearly said leavers will be affected more by the virus as they are older. Your own statements not mine. This is your big hope that

enough will die in order to remain.

Where did I use the word ‘hope’ I said that it is fact , you can’t dispute that ?

You did not say hope and I did not say you did. I said your big hope is that it kills enough people. You said correctly it and all viruses affect older people more and they are most likely to have voted leave so the virus and all viruses are working for remain

No it isn’t,

I'd be happy to have Farage as PM "

Says it all really.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. there you go again woth your silly perditions

Why are they silly? because I think leave would win again but I say think you say would like it’s a fact It’s irrelevant anyway because there won’t be a second vote not for a long time if ever but that’s not a fact it’s just my opinion lol

I disagree, the utter clusterfuck that has happened since 2016 and the fact we will probably leave without a deal will also prevent any other EU nation from doing the same . We are the laughing stock of Europe who is laughing at us who ? It’s a remain saying we are the laughing stock of Europe I think they have enough shit going on to be bothered about the U.K. France and Spain at the mint ire are almost begging us to lift quarantine because they need the U.K. tourists Minute that was ment to say lol"

Who are the countries laughing at us? I have not seen or heard this

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This is not too dissimilar to divorce so there is inevitably going to be negotations and whichever side of the argument you're on you can't please everyone ever in politics at least we can cast our vote in some countries you can't even do that.

We will try and re join within 20 years, most of the Brexit voters will be either to old to notice or dead. mmm have you got this weeks lottery numbers too?

No, have you? I know the older generation are petrified of becoming irrelevant but I am afraid it happens to us all one day. Brexit was your final hurrah, time to get out of the way and let the younger generations decide their future You know nothing of the older generation if thats what you think are your parents and grandparents petrified of becoming irrelevant are they irrelevant in your eyes?

We all become irrelevant, it is the way of the world, especially in this country which tends to treat the old very badly . My parents and grand parents are relevant to me, but they aren’t relevant in the grand scheme of things . And you think you are relevant in the grand scheme of things???

The majority are always more relevant than the minority, Thats a very sad view you have, in my book everyone is relevant so we have determined you are ageist what about BLM do you believe in that or maybe just the younger ones?

What has the BLM got to do with anything? So you don’t think the majority are more relevant than the minority ? I am not saying it is right, far from it, but it is fact Seems to me you was, us old people are irrelevant but you see as long as we have a vote we are all equal.

Nope, we all should be as relevant as each other, but let’s face facts, we aren’t . If there was an EU referendum tomorrow, remain would win, that’s how fast things change. i think millions of people who donated to captain tom and raised millions of pounds would disagree that old people are irrelevant but hey ho i guess they are not ageist either.

Unfortunately there aren’t many Captain Toms out there, what he did was amazing, he fought in the war, how many of the ‘older generations’ that voted for Brexit can claim to have done the same?? "
So your only irreverent if you didnt fight in the war? is it only ww2 or does korea,falklands,iraq count?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Only by then their will be no Eu as other countries will have left and as we were the main contributor financially it'll fold in time. "

Germany and France both contribute considerably more. We contributed 11.8 % of the budget so we’re not going to be too hard to replace with so many of the other contributors.

Half of the members are net contributors and it’s fairly based on the size of each countries economy. The U.K. press have filled your head full of nonsense.

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