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By *eavenNhell OP   Couple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

#TheWeekInTory is a misnomer: this just covers the last 5 days

by @RussInCheshire on Twitter

1. Matt Hancock told Parliament lockdown started on 16th March, the day SAGE told them to, so all those unnecessary deaths didn’t happen

2. But lockdown started on 24th March, and all those unnecessary deaths did

3. The govt announced a “New Deal” for infrastructure, with £600bn of new money

4. Turns out, only 0.8% of that is new money

5. The £34bn “new money” for the NHS was actually announced in 2018

6. The govt then announced £3bn of additional funding for a possible second wave

7. That’s less than half the £8bn NHS England said it needed just to stand still, which hasn’t happened

8. Matt Hancock said wearing a mask is mandatory

9. Downing St said wearing a mask ISN'T mandatory

10. So Gavin Williamson cleared it all up by saying they're both right ????

11. England’s Chief Nurse confirmed she was dropped from briefings cos she refused to back Dominic Cummings

12. A poll found public trust in UK gov ability to manage the pandemic is lowest worldwide, and I nearly fainted

13. The govt cut the budget to end FGM by 84%

14. A Tory MP texted his intern to ask for “no strings” fun “pweeease”.

15. She replied that she was having a “bad mental health day”

16. He said maybe if she thought of “fun times” with him, she’d feel better. Nice.

17. Brexit: and now we’re back in control, it was confirmed the govt cancelled the Huawei 5G project because Donald Trump told them to

18. The Institute for Govt found 61% of businesses have made no preparations at all and that “Britain is fatally ill-prepared” for Brexit

19. The business secretary said “Seamless trade is vital for our economy, boosting business, supporting jobs, and ensuring consumers get the best deal”

20. He was talking about England and Scotland. He still thinks abandoning seamless trade with the EU is a great idea

21. The govt used its majority to vote against protecting the NHS from being sold

22. The govt used its majority to vote against protection of agriculture and food standards

23. The govt used its majority to vote against parliament having oversight of any trade deals

24. And now corruption news, and we’ll start small: Robert Jenrick, who you might remember from previous episodes, was in charge of £25m regeneration scheme

25. 60 of the 61 constituencies helped were Tory seats with small majorities, or Tory targets at the general election

26. Only 2 towns had Tory majorities over 10,000. One was Jenrick’s own seat

27. It was reported the Irish tracing app cost £773,000 and works

28. The contract for managing our “world beating” app was given to the wife of a Tory MP, cost £13m in 4 months, it didn’t work

29. Even if you paid £50,000 to each programmer for 4 months work, £13m buys 260 programmers

30. The successful app used by Germany – which is open source – lists 17 programmers

31. Did we hire 260 programmers? If so, why? If not, where is the rest of the money?

32. Also, the govt admitted its “world beating app” broke the law

33. A leaked govt report found our “world beating” trace system is failing

34. Serco traced 59,000 contacts in 6 weeks, which is less than 1 contact per tracer per fortnight. They got £10bn for that

35. But the govt claimed it was a success because it managed to find an outbreak in its own call centre

36. Russia report news: The govt attempted to suborn parliament by fixing the appointment of Chris Grayling to chair the Intelligence Sub-Committee (ISC)

37. It failed, so suspended the MP who did get the job

38. The ISC said the reasons given by the govt for delaying the report were “simply not true”

39. As the ISC released the report, the govt announced a pay rise for 900,000 workers. Were you distracted? Me neither

40. The report confirmed Russian interference in the Scottish Independence referendum

41. The report “reveals that no one in government knew if Russia interfered in or sought to influence the [Brexit] referendum, because they did not want to know”

42. The ISC demanded an inquiry into Russian interference in Brexit

43. The govt immediately said no

44. I’m sure this is a coincidence, but this week it was reported the largest political donor in British history is a Russian Socialite who has paid £1.7m to the Tory party

45. She paid £160,000 for game of tennis with Boris Johnson

46. She paid £30,000 for dinner with Gavin Williamson. I know, it’s baffling

47. The company she runs has assets of £23,000 and liabilities of £8.4m, so it’s a mystery where all that donated money is coming from.

48. And finally: it was reported that the UK doesn't even have enough palettes to transport goods after we leave the EU, cos we've been relying on theirs until now, and have neither the wood nor the treatment facilities required to build enough of our own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"#TheWeekInTory is a misnomer: this just covers the last 5 days

by @RussInCheshire on Twitter

1. Matt Hancock told Parliament lockdown started on 16th March, the day SAGE told them to, so all those unnecessary deaths didn’t happen

2. But lockdown started on 24th March, and all those unnecessary deaths did

3. The govt announced a “New Deal” for infrastructure, with £600bn of new money

4. Turns out, only 0.8% of that is new money

5. The £34bn “new money” for the NHS was actually announced in 2018

6. The govt then announced £3bn of additional funding for a possible second wave

7. That’s less than half the £8bn NHS England said it needed just to stand still, which hasn’t happened

8. Matt Hancock said wearing a mask is mandatory

9. Downing St said wearing a mask ISN'T mandatory

10. So Gavin Williamson cleared it all up by saying they're both right ????

11. England’s Chief Nurse confirmed she was dropped from briefings cos she refused to back Dominic Cummings

12. A poll found public trust in UK gov ability to manage the pandemic is lowest worldwide, and I nearly fainted

13. The govt cut the budget to end FGM by 84%

14. A Tory MP texted his intern to ask for “no strings” fun “pweeease”.

15. She replied that she was having a “bad mental health day”

16. He said maybe if she thought of “fun times” with him, she’d feel better. Nice.

17. Brexit: and now we’re back in control, it was confirmed the govt cancelled the Huawei 5G project because Donald Trump told them to

18. The Institute for Govt found 61% of businesses have made no preparations at all and that “Britain is fatally ill-prepared” for Brexit

19. The business secretary said “Seamless trade is vital for our economy, boosting business, supporting jobs, and ensuring consumers get the best deal”

20. He was talking about England and Scotland. He still thinks abandoning seamless trade with the EU is a great idea

21. The govt used its majority to vote against protecting the NHS from being sold

22. The govt used its majority to vote against protection of agriculture and food standards

23. The govt used its majority to vote against parliament having oversight of any trade deals

24. And now corruption news, and we’ll start small: Robert Jenrick, who you might remember from previous episodes, was in charge of £25m regeneration scheme

25. 60 of the 61 constituencies helped were Tory seats with small majorities, or Tory targets at the general election

26. Only 2 towns had Tory majorities over 10,000. One was Jenrick’s own seat

27. It was reported the Irish tracing app cost £773,000 and works

28. The contract for managing our “world beating” app was given to the wife of a Tory MP, cost £13m in 4 months, it didn’t work

29. Even if you paid £50,000 to each programmer for 4 months work, £13m buys 260 programmers

30. The successful app used by Germany – which is open source – lists 17 programmers

31. Did we hire 260 programmers? If so, why? If not, where is the rest of the money?

32. Also, the govt admitted its “world beating app” broke the law

33. A leaked govt report found our “world beating” trace system is failing

34. Serco traced 59,000 contacts in 6 weeks, which is less than 1 contact per tracer per fortnight. They got £10bn for that

35. But the govt claimed it was a success because it managed to find an outbreak in its own call centre

36. Russia report news: The govt attempted to suborn parliament by fixing the appointment of Chris Grayling to chair the Intelligence Sub-Committee (ISC)

37. It failed, so suspended the MP who did get the job

38. The ISC said the reasons given by the govt for delaying the report were “simply not true”

39. As the ISC released the report, the govt announced a pay rise for 900,000 workers. Were you distracted? Me neither

40. The report confirmed Russian interference in the Scottish Independence referendum

41. The report “reveals that no one in government knew if Russia interfered in or sought to influence the [Brexit] referendum, because they did not want to know”

42. The ISC demanded an inquiry into Russian interference in Brexit

43. The govt immediately said no

44. I’m sure this is a coincidence, but this week it was reported the largest political donor in British history is a Russian Socialite who has paid £1.7m to the Tory party

45. She paid £160,000 for game of tennis with Boris Johnson

46. She paid £30,000 for dinner with Gavin Williamson. I know, it’s baffling

47. The company she runs has assets of £23,000 and liabilities of £8.4m, so it’s a mystery where all that donated money is coming from.

48. And finally: it was reported that the UK doesn't even have enough palettes to transport goods after we leave the EU, cos we've been relying on theirs until now, and have neither the wood nor the treatment facilities required to build enough of our own."

Brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant x2

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas


"Brilliant x2 "
. ,,,,, x3

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By *k2nkCouple
over a year ago

livingston

The problem with threads like this is when one piece is so obviously nonsense it calls into question everything else.

Reporting that the UK doesn't have enough wood to build its own pallets is unfortunately so ridiculous it allows people to dismiss things that are actually factual. Stop padding things out and stick to things that are true.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"The problem with threads like this is when one piece is so obviously nonsense it calls into question everything else.

Reporting that the UK doesn't have enough wood to build its own pallets is unfortunately so ridiculous it allows people to dismiss things that are actually factual. Stop padding things out and stick to things that are true."

However the pallet thing happens to be true... It turns out that in the case of a no deal brexit, Uk to Eu movement of goods will become subject to higher standard pallet sterilisation rules that we are currently exempt from. These rules are there to prevent various nasty beetles, insects, vermin etc to enter the Eu from uncontrolled countries. At present we are treated as a country that meets all the appropriate standards to be trusted and allowed to move goods without these extra hygiene requirements. Under a "no deal" the Uk will no longer be assumed to meet these standards (as we are insisting that we don't need to follow Eu rules), and goods going from Uk to Eu would be treated just the same as eg. stuff from some 3rd world country entering the Eu.

And it turns out that pallets to meet the newly applicable rules (not new rules, just the same rules as apply to the rest of the world, but only now applying to us) have to be made of wood that is cured at a high temperature and specially chemically treated. Pallets that are much more expensive to make. And because we've never been subject to this rule before, the majority of pallets current used for Uk to Eu trade are just the cheap ones... Millions of pallets that will not be allowed to travel across the channel any more...

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

As someone who weekly breaks 'HT' pallets up for DIY projects, I am yet to see a UK or GB stamped one..

CN and CZ's ars the best. They are well cooked and last for years...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant x3

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By *k2nkCouple
over a year ago

livingston

This just proves the point I was making,using one part of the quote to suggest all parts are factual does no-one any favours.

Once again to suggest that the UK does not have enough wood to build its own pallets is ridiculous ( unless of course the forestry commission and forest research have revised there 50 year forecasts in the past week)

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"This just proves the point I was making,using one part of the quote to suggest all parts are factual does no-one any favours.

Once again to suggest that the UK does not have enough wood to build its own pallets is ridiculous ( unless of course the forestry commission and forest research have revised there 50 year forecasts in the past week)"

Out of all the points listed, our biggest concern is pallets?

ok...

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By *k2nkCouple
over a year ago

livingston

Pallets are irrelevant , it's about facts and making sure what is said is truthful. One obvious piece of fiction allows every other fact to called into question.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

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"Pallets are irrelevant , it's about facts and making sure what is said is truthful. One obvious piece of fiction allows every other fact to called into question.

"

The first point is that this list is usually presented with a humorous twist. So the "not enough wood" is an exaggeration for humour's sake (the point is obviously a bit of an "and finally" news item).

However, it is not entirely fictitious as you suggest. More that 3m pallets move between the UK and the EU every month. If these are the "wrong sort" of pallet we are going to have to product more.

The 2020 numbers for wood production were 3.5million cubic meters of sawn wood (obviously for all usage), and 7 million cubic meters imported.

I reckon there are probably 10 pallets to a cubic meter. We are going to have to up our production by a significant number. I would imagine the industry is not prepared for this...

So not such a fiction?

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"Pallets are irrelevant , it's about facts and making sure what is said is truthful. One obvious piece of fiction allows every other fact to called into question."

You're free to call every fact into question regardless. Any statement made needs to be backed up.

Just strange that you would take issue with that fact over the others. Low hanging fruit I guess.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Pallets are irrelevant , it's about facts and making sure what is said is truthful. One obvious piece of fiction allows every other fact to called into question.

The first point is that this list is usually presented with a humorous twist. So the "not enough wood" is an exaggeration for humour's sake (the point is obviously a bit of an "and finally" news item).

However, it is not entirely fictitious as you suggest. More that 3m pallets move between the UK and the EU every month. If these are the "wrong sort" of pallet we are going to have to product more.

The 2020 numbers for wood production were 3.5million cubic meters of sawn wood (obviously for all usage), and 7 million cubic meters imported.

I reckon there are probably 10 pallets to a cubic meter. We are going to have to up our production by a significant number. I would imagine the industry is not prepared for this...

So not such a fiction?"

Not all pallets are wooden

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