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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening." All pre-prepared bullshit that he could use for any question asked by Starmer. | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening." He is pathetic, but you have to remember, he is only fooling the foolish  | |||
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"I wonder if there are people out there who actually think he is doing a good job? Or does apathy reign supreme?" Apathy and delusion , they are a bad combination | |||
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"I wonder if there are people out there who actually think he is doing a good job? Or does apathy reign supreme? Apathy and delusion , they are a bad combination "It's dangerous. I'm struggling to see any hope at the mo! | |||
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"I've lost all interest in following politics on the news for a while now because I've never ever in my lifetime known a serving Government that lie as much as the Boris group of wankers do. I know politicians, honesty and integrity has never had a strong link but never has it been as bad as it is right now. " That's exactly what they want. | |||
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"I've lost all interest in following politics on the news for a while now because I've never ever in my lifetime known a serving Government that lie as much as the Boris group of wankers do. I know politicians, honesty and integrity has never had a strong link but never has it been as bad as it is right now. " I do agree with your second paragraph - there is no one party that has any more honesty and integrity than the other. | |||
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"I've lost all interest in following politics on the news for a while now because I've never ever in my lifetime known a serving Government that lie as much as the Boris group of wankers do. I know politicians, honesty and integrity has never had a strong link but never has it been as bad as it is right now. I do agree with your second paragraph - there is no one party that has any more honesty and integrity than the other. " I think this lot lower the bar...daily.. | |||
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"I've lost all interest in following politics on the news for a while now because I've never ever in my lifetime known a serving Government that lie as much as the Boris group of wankers do. I know politicians, honesty and integrity has never had a strong link but never has it been as bad as it is right now. I do agree with your second paragraph - there is no one party that has any more honesty and integrity than the other. " I’d like to believe that Labour has more integrity and more of a social consciences however, I can’t be certain it has. Still, the howlers I hear from the current tory party are disheartening and I’m saying this in all honesty. I’d like to believe I’d be as ruthless if a Labour gvt was as morally corrupt as this lot. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. " This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. " We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that." Yes we do live imin a conservative country and that’s why we have some of the starkest inequalities in the Western world bar the US of course. And yes, with 80% of the media on its side, the tories can’t really lose. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that." Which left wing goverment are you thinking of? | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. Which left wing goverment are you thinking of? " Atlee | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. Which left wing goverment are you thinking of? Atlee" Yes, I would agree on that. Although it was like getting a free pass, as things couldn't get much worse after WW2. Took Churchill's ideas for the NHS, and got it created. Every citizen in this country should thank him for that. | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening." In 2014, I voted 'Yes' - even though it meant leaving the EU, not having Sterling, etc a lot of disadvantages and risks; but I did it to avoid being governed by the likes Johnson and his cronies ever again. I'm not saying I saw Brexit coming - I didn't; but it was obvious that neither New Labour, nor the Tories, gave a fuck about the people of Scotland. They only give a fuck about the land and the waters surrounding it. If you think I'm judging them too harshly, consider the very special sort of contempt reserved for Scots (especially Nicola Sturgeon) who disagree with them. There's plenty of examples of it in these forums, too. I think it's maybe because we haven't given up hope of unshackling ourselves from the rotting corpse that is Westminster. As for contempt for the British people; any time anyone asserts that this government is the best the UK can do - that's contempt. | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening. In 2014, I voted 'Yes' - even though it meant leaving the EU, not having Sterling, etc a lot of disadvantages and risks; but I did it to avoid being governed by the likes Johnson and his cronies ever again. I'm not saying I saw Brexit coming - I didn't; but it was obvious that neither New Labour, nor the Tories, gave a fuck about the people of Scotland. They only give a fuck about the land and the waters surrounding it. If you think I'm judging them too harshly, consider the very special sort of contempt reserved for Scots (especially Nicola Sturgeon) who disagree with them. There's plenty of examples of it in these forums, too. I think it's maybe because we haven't given up hope of unshackling ourselves from the rotting corpse that is Westminster. As for contempt for the British people; any time anyone asserts that this government is the best the UK can do - that's contempt." I agree. New labour took for granted the north and Scotland. Scotland voted SNP in protest. Big chunks of the north decided the best way to protest about a right of centre labour party was to vote in a right of centre Tory party. You couldn't make it up. | |||
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"Took Churchill's ideas for the NHS, and got it created. Every citizen in this country should thank him for that." That's one way to see it. Revisionist shite is another. In 1944, he stated his government was committed to a NHS, but he did not have the idea himself, nor did he endorse the NHS that the Atlee Government brought into being; with the consent of all the brave men and women who voted Churchill out of office. This is from the 'West End at War' website: "Churchill's Tories voted against the formation of the NHS 21 times before the act was passed, including both the Second and Third reading. Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." To compare the NHS to Nazism in 1946 shows the extremity of views at the time." | |||
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"I agree. New labour took for granted the north and Scotland. Scotland voted SNP in protest. Big chunks of the north decided the best way to protest about a right of centre labour party was to vote in a right of centre Tory party. You couldn't make it up." Well, we're all screwed until nearly 2025, anyway. It's just a question of how much worse it all gets. Far too many people are talking about returning to "normal" for any prospect of genuine improvement. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. Which left wing goverment are you thinking of? Atlee Yes, I would agree on that. Although it was like getting a free pass, as things couldn't get much worse after WW2. Took Churchill's ideas for the NHS, and got it created. Every citizen in this country should thank him for that. " You sure about churchill? He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times. | |||
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"Well said Alice,most people in Scotland have no time for Johnson or the Tories, but the English media will attack our First Minister at every opportunity even though we voted her in. Johnson has given the independence movement a massive boost " Thank you. Whilst it's true his contempt for us has increased the number of Scots likely to vote for independence, we're no nearer getting it; since it's in his power (or whichever PM comes after him) to deny an IndyRef2 for as long as he likes. Even if the SNP get a second majority in next year's Holyrood election (which is difficult to achieve and by no means assured), Johnson absolutely will not do what Cameron did. The 2014 vote - and, more importantly, the Brexit vote - scared the living shit out of the Tory establishment. They won't risk another referendum if they don't have to. And, right now, they don't. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. Which left wing goverment are you thinking of? Atlee Yes, I would agree on that. Although it was like getting a free pass, as things couldn't get much worse after WW2. Took Churchill's ideas for the NHS, and got it created. Every citizen in this country should thank him for that. You sure about churchill? He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times." From Cronin, to Beveridge, to Churchill, to Bevan and to Atlee, they all had ideas for the formation of the NHS. Its creation was in all the three main parties manifestos of the 1945 GE. Attlee got it done but it did have opposition from certain quarters, not least the Doctors. | |||
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"Well said Alice,most people in Scotland have no time for Johnson or the Tories, but the English media will attack our First Minister at every opportunity even though we voted her in. Johnson has given the independence movement a massive boost Thank you. Whilst it's true his contempt for us has increased the number of Scots likely to vote for independence, we're no nearer getting it; since it's in his power (or whichever PM comes after him) to deny an IndyRef2 for as long as he likes. Even if the SNP get a second majority in next year's Holyrood election (which is difficult to achieve and by no means assured), Johnson absolutely will not do what Cameron did. The 2014 vote - and, more importantly, the Brexit vote - scared the living shit out of the Tory establishment. They won't risk another referendum if they don't have to. And, right now, they don't." I think a reckoning is coming between nicola and bj. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. Which left wing goverment are you thinking of? Atlee Yes, I would agree on that. Although it was like getting a free pass, as things couldn't get much worse after WW2. Took Churchill's ideas for the NHS, and got it created. Every citizen in this country should thank him for that. You sure about churchill? He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times. From Cronin, to Beveridge, to Churchill, to Bevan and to Atlee, they all had ideas for the formation of the NHS. Its creation was in all the three main parties manifestos of the 1945 GE. Attlee got it done but it did have opposition from certain quarters, not least the Doctors. " I knew some drs opposed to it. I cant find where churchill was much of a fan | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening." You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement" You obviously don’t mind or are not aware that Boris is lying to you , he has utter contempt for you and the people who still believe him . | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement" I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. " Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? " Yep What of it? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square. "The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out  | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out "And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.  | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square. "Oh look, it is a Boris fanboy who doesn’t care or who doesn’t know they are being lied to. The date of the next GE is irrelevant, and so is Corbyn. I don’t know if you have noticed but the Labour Party have a new leader | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? Yep What of it?" Labour PM lied to Parliament. | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
"And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
Oh look, it is a Boris fanboy who doesn’t care or who doesn’t know they are being lied to.
The date of the next GE is irrelevant, and so is Corbyn. I don’t know if you have noticed but the Labour Party have a new leader "Wrong - One: I'm a Girl. Two: Couldn't give a crap about Boris. Three: All the lies and payouts come from the Corby Club era. | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? "Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism. | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
Or colluded with a foreign power"Corby did didn't he. | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism."Oh dear | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? Yep What of it? Labour PM lied to Parliament. " Who? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear"Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
Or colluded with a foreign power
Corby did didn't he."Who? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?"Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link.. | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
Oh look, it is a Boris fanboy who doesn’t care or who doesn’t know they are being lied to.
The date of the next GE is irrelevant, and so is Corbyn. I don’t know if you have noticed but the Labour Party have a new leader
Wrong - One: I'm a Girl. Two: Couldn't give a crap about Boris. Three: All the lies and payouts come from the Corby Club era. "Like I said, they deserve their payout and their apology, it is good to see the Labour Party admit and take responsibility for their mistakes, don’t you think?? | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? Yep What of it? Labour PM lied to Parliament. " Bj lies on a daily basis | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?
Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link.."Hhahahaha Jeesus what planet have you been on !!! | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?
Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link..
Hhahahaha Jeesus what planet have you been on !!!"Just 1 quote..take your time | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? Yep What of it? Labour PM lied to Parliament. Bj lies on a daily basis " Boris Boris Boris Boris Boris at least say Sausages evry now and again !!! Boris Bromance or what ! | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? Yep What of it? Labour PM lied to Parliament. Who?" For someone who claims to have studied Politics I can only think you failed badly in your exam Lionel.! | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?
Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link..
Hhahahaha Jeesus what planet have you been on !!!
Just 1 quote..take your time"You take your time and read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552 | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? "not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?
Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link..
Hhahahaha Jeesus what planet have you been on !!!
Just 1 quote..take your time"On Wednesday, Mr Corbyn said the decision to settle the claims with an apology and "substantial payments" was "disappointing", | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?"Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore,  | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, "You and your pesky facts! | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, "no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion. | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion. "True, hopefully one day Boris will apologies for making racist & homophobic comments | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
True, hopefully one day Boris will apologies for making racist & homophobic comments "Do you mean this one? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/20/boris-johnson-cleared-over-burqa-comments | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
True, hopefully one day Boris will apologies for making racist & homophobic comments
Do you mean this one?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/20/boris-johnson-cleared-over-burqa-comments"No, the other ones. Tank top wearing bum boys and piccaninnies with mater melon smiles | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion. "Thats true enough. I was glad to see Labour at least trying to move on by admitting the mistakes of the past. Corbyn has not helped though with his comments and yes he was responsible for the time he was leader. BBC said the anti semitism had been going on before Corbyn but increased a lot under his leadership. They also apologised for hounding the whistle blowers and a BBC reporter | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this." Or could it be that the Labour party is being investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission? | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this. Or could it be that the Labour party is being investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission?" It doesn’t mean that the Tory party shouldn’t be too, does it? | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this. Or could it be that the Labour party is being investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission? It doesn’t mean that the Tory party shouldn’t be too, does it? " If there was a reason to investigate them they would have. | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this. Or could it be that the Labour party is being investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission? It doesn’t mean that the Tory party shouldn’t be too, does it? If there was a reason to investigate them they would have. " | |||
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"I remember when this thread was about Johnson lying at PMQs. Ah the good old days." ,,,,,the problem is that there is not a debate about Johnson lying ,,,he just does | |||
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"I remember when this thread was about Johnson lying at PMQs. Ah the good old days." Now he’s got 5 jokes ready every week and he spits them out whatever the topic You ask him about the interference of Russia and he mentions flip flops in Bournemouth. The lowest of the low. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. This country needs a revolution but when the masses are asleep there’s no chance of that. The only chance for the bases to wake up is financial hardship and it’s probably coming. Just to clarify, when I say ‘a revolution’ I’m not saying we should cut anybody’s throats. We need to start questioning how the elite perpetuates itself and holds the cards because so few are in control of everything. An end to private schools would be a good place to start. That’s where it all starts. Countries with no private schools are more homogeneous. We live in a conservative country. We have had 1 left wing gmnt in the last 80 years. Anyone remotely left wing will get no where no 10.The likes of the mail,the rag and sky will see to that. Yes we do live imin a conservative country and that’s why we have some of the starkest inequalities in the Western world bar the US of course. And yes, with 80% of the media on its side, the tories can’t really lose." Totally agree with this. The media being controlled by just a couple of industrialists was never allowed before Mrs Thatcher. She was seduced by her financial backers to sweep away the rule of no one owning more that one national newspaper.. We are fed what their narrow agenda is and as we know you’re avearage tabloid reader doesn’t cope with more than a paragraph of politics with his or her breakfast! When the jobs start going because the tax haven U.K. Boris has planned doesn’t need you then maybe some of his backers will wake up. I’m hoping some of those Tory back stabbers who do care about our country will be lining up a few sharp knives for Boris. | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this." Plus the media control the narrative and they support Boris. When did you hear any of Murdoch’s empire question this bullshitting government. | |||
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/05/jeremy-corbyn-personally-accused-11-acts-anti-semitism-leaked/ " What the actual fuck you are talking about? I always laugh at the loonies talking about Corbyns antisemitism. Im no fan of Corbyn or Labour party. Good thing he quit, but where can i find the info of him being antisemitic? All I see is him "not doing enough" to fight antisemitism or not being fast enough to condemn antisemites or not declaring his eternal and unconditional love for Israel. This is all I can see, Tories create some allegations bubble and if Corbyn doesnt respond fast enough, hes antisemitic. It is like I would say hou are racist because you did not put a black square on your Facebook profile or you are homophobic because you did not walk in gay pride parade. According to you it is not what he has done, but what he did not do fast enough. How stupid is that logic? | |||
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"I wonder if there are people out there who actually think he is doing a good job? Or does apathy reign supreme? Apathy and delusion , they are a bad combination "The public get what the public want. If they can't be bothered to digest information in chunks bigger than 240 bytes, nor fact check anything, not look outside their own comfort bubble of news sources. If they think the latest news about adeles diet or Megans father or Beckham hair cut is more relevant than where their 200 gbp sneakers are made and by whom or why they drive everywhere or drink bottled water with no consequences... You get what you get. | |||
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"He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times. From Cronin, to Beveridge, to Churchill, to Bevan and to Atlee, they all had ideas for the formation of the NHS. Its creation was in all the three main parties manifestos of the 1945 GE. Attlee got it done but it did have opposition from certain quarters, not least the Doctors. " A gentle reminder of what he really doesn't want to acknowledge: "Churchill's Tories voted against the formation of the NHS 21 times before the act was passed, including both the Second and Third reading. Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." To compare the NHS to Nazism in 1946 shows the extremity of views at the time." Bottom line, this guy thinks we should all be grateful to Churchill for thinking up and creating the NHS - neither of which he did. If it was such a great idea - and it was - why was he so utterly opposed to it? | |||
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"He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times. From Cronin, to Beveridge, to Churchill, to Bevan and to Atlee, they all had ideas for the formation of the NHS. Its creation was in all the three main parties manifestos of the 1945 GE. Attlee got it done but it did have opposition from certain quarters, not least the Doctors. A gentle reminder of what he really doesn't want to acknowledge: "Churchill's Tories voted against the formation of the NHS 21 times before the act was passed, including both the Second and Third reading. Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." To compare the NHS to Nazism in 1946 shows the extremity of views at the time." Bottom line, this guy thinks we should all be grateful to Churchill for thinking up and creating the NHS - neither of which he did. If it was such a great idea - and it was - why was he so utterly opposed to it?" You really do need to take your blinkers off here. Churchill was one of many, that stretched back to Florence Nightingale, that had ideas that brought about the NHS. These buikding blocks were all cemented together by Attlee in 1948. Spring 1944, Churchill makes a speech... "the policy of the Goverment to establish a National Health Service accessible to all, irrespective of social class or means, adequate and modern social care". July 1945, Churchill issues a Cabinet Paper to his cabinet instructing them to "legislate the formation of the NHS" As i said, Attlee built on the ideas of Churchill, who took the ideas of Beveridge. Bevan was inspired by Cronin. It all came together in 1948. | |||
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"I'm giving up watching soon. Johnson can't speak a word of truth. His contempt for the British people is sickening.You see things you want to see them,you would not know truth if it hit you in the face. You have know interest in the the truth that is certain by your statement I genuinely feel sorry for people like you who live in a parallel universe. And yes I know it sounds patronising and condescending. Anyone remember the Chilcot report.? Yep What of it? Labour PM lied to Parliament. Who? For someone who claims to have studied Politics I can only think you failed badly in your exam Lionel.!" My memory Is failing me I know lies were told about wmd The dossier was sexed up Was it Blair? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?
Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link..
Hhahahaha Jeesus what planet have you been on !!!
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You take your time and read
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552"I'll.need to read them properly | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion. "Because he isnt responsible for every single person associated with labour? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion. "Presumably bj is responsible for comments made by every Tory? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
Thats true enough. I was glad to see Labour at least trying to move on by admitting the mistakes of the past. Corbyn has not helped though with his comments and yes he was responsible for the time he was leader. BBC said the anti semitism had been going on before Corbyn but increased a lot under his leadership. They also apologised for hounding the whistle blowers and a BBC reporter"Apparently the legal team had assured labour that it was very unlikely they would lose the case | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this. Or could it be that the Labour party is being investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission? It doesn’t mean that the Tory party shouldn’t be too, does it? If there was a reason to investigate them they would have. " Superb | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. " I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. " I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed" I tend to agree with you. People voted for the least worst (both were awful) If Corbyn had gone earlier, we would have had a different outcome. It’s interesting that the Tory’s are already talking about BJs replacement | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed" I doubt that very much as Starmer would most likely have followed the same Brexit policy he advocated when he was Brexit Secretary under Corbyn. As we now know this was very much at odds with the prevailing mood of a large enough proportion of the country - enough to turn the Labour held "leave" voting areas into Tory gains. | |||
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"He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times. From Cronin, to Beveridge, to Churchill, to Bevan and to Atlee, they all had ideas for the formation of the NHS. Its creation was in all the three main parties manifestos of the 1945 GE. Attlee got it done but it did have opposition from certain quarters, not least the Doctors. A gentle reminder of what he really doesn't want to acknowledge: "Churchill's Tories voted against the formation of the NHS 21 times before the act was passed, including both the Second and Third reading. Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." To compare the NHS to Nazism in 1946 shows the extremity of views at the time." Bottom line, this guy thinks we should all be grateful to Churchill for thinking up and creating the NHS - neither of which he did. If it was such a great idea - and it was - why was he so utterly opposed to it? You really do need to take your blinkers off here. Churchill was one of many, that stretched back to Florence Nightingale, that had ideas that brought about the NHS. These buikding blocks were all cemented together by Attlee in 1948. Spring 1944, Churchill makes a speech... "the policy of the Goverment to establish a National Health Service accessible to all, irrespective of social class or means, adequate and modern social care". July 1945, Churchill issues a Cabinet Paper to his cabinet instructing them to "legislate the formation of the NHS" As I said, Attlee built on the ideas of Churchill, who took the ideas of Beveridge. Bevan was inspired by Cronin. It all came together in 1948." Admirable persistence - but blinkers are nothing to do with it. Unlike you, I am not prepared to give him credit where it is entirely undue - and you know it's undue, you just can't bear to admit it. Yet again: Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." Clearly, he changed his mind about what a great idea it would be, or he and his party would not have voted against the Act forming it. If he was all for it in 1944, why oppose it two years later? Really - why? To be fair to you, you have, finally, just stated the idea was not Churchill's, as you at first suggested. The truth is, the NHS came together despite him and his party voting against it happening. If you want him to get credit for something he doesn't deserve, fair enough; that's not an uncommon trait for his cult followers - just don't expect to get away with it unquestioned. | |||
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"He compared the NHS to nazism and as said above voted against it 3 times. From Cronin, to Beveridge, to Churchill, to Bevan and to Atlee, they all had ideas for the formation of the NHS. Its creation was in all the three main parties manifestos of the 1945 GE. Attlee got it done but it did have opposition from certain quarters, not least the Doctors. A gentle reminder of what he really doesn't want to acknowledge: "Churchill's Tories voted against the formation of the NHS 21 times before the act was passed, including both the Second and Third reading. Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." To compare the NHS to Nazism in 1946 shows the extremity of views at the time." Bottom line, this guy thinks we should all be grateful to Churchill for thinking up and creating the NHS - neither of which he did. If it was such a great idea - and it was - why was he so utterly opposed to it? You really do need to take your blinkers off here. Churchill was one of many, that stretched back to Florence Nightingale, that had ideas that brought about the NHS. These buikding blocks were all cemented together by Attlee in 1948. Spring 1944, Churchill makes a speech... "the policy of the Goverment to establish a National Health Service accessible to all, irrespective of social class or means, adequate and modern social care". July 1945, Churchill issues a Cabinet Paper to his cabinet instructing them to "legislate the formation of the NHS" As I said, Attlee built on the ideas of Churchill, who took the ideas of Beveridge. Bevan was inspired by Cronin. It all came together in 1948. Admirable persistence - but blinkers are nothing to do with it. Unlike you, I am not prepared to give him credit where it is entirely undue - and you know it's undue, you just can't bear to admit it. Yet again: Churchill sincerely believed that the NHS was a "first step to turn Britain into a National Socialist economy." Clearly, he changed his mind about what a great idea it would be, or he and his party would not have voted against the Act forming it. If he was all for it in 1944, why oppose it two years later? Really - why? To be fair to you, you have, finally, just stated the idea was not Churchill's, as you at first suggested. The truth is, the NHS came together despite him and his party voting against it happening. If you want him to get credit for something he doesn't deserve, fair enough; that's not an uncommon trait for his cult followers - just don't expect to get away with it unquestioned." I said that Attlee had taken some inspiration from the ideas of Churchill. Attlee had served as deputy PM to Churchill in the wartime goverment. You seem reluctant to quote all of the information that you lifted off that website. The bits at the end, where the Doctors and BMA also gave short shrift to the idea. The one where they compared Attlee to Hitler. Doctors, councils and even some Labour MPs were against it, the most notable being Herbet Morrison. You also fail to give credence to the GE manifestos of that year. All three parties had pledges to set up the NHS, just that the Conservative one was longer and more detailed. Its true that the Conservatives voted against the NHS bill. However they voted against the operation of the NHS, not the actual establishment of the NHS. They tabled an amendment on the vote, stating that they were "committed to the establishment of the NHS". You don't like Conservatives, you don't like Churchill,... I get that. Feel free to erase Churchill. Lets just say that the biggest and best ideas of the time came from Beveridge. | |||
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"Exactly. Islamopjobia is as bad in the Tory party as antesemitism is in Labour. I just don’t understand why it’s hardly mentioned and why nobody makes a fuss about it. Could it be the fact that attacking or being horrible to Jews be regarded as more serious than attacking or being horrible to Muslim people. I think a lot of is down to this. Or could it be that the Labour party is being investigated by The Equality and Human Rights Commission? It doesn’t mean that the Tory party shouldn’t be too, does it? If there was a reason to investigate them they would have. " They were going to, until they bullshited about doing their own investigation. the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), submitted a dossier of 300 cases to the watchdog cataloguing alleged Islamophobia, andd said the terms of reference set out by the Tories was inadequate. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed I doubt that very much as Starmer would most likely have followed the same Brexit policy he advocated when he was Brexit Secretary under Corbyn. As we now know this was very much at odds with the prevailing mood of a large enough proportion of the country - enough to turn the Labour held "leave" voting areas into Tory gains. " Agreed. | |||
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"I remember when this thread was about Johnson lying at PMQs. Ah the good old days." When does he not lie is the question | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
Thats true enough. I was glad to see Labour at least trying to move on by admitting the mistakes of the past. Corbyn has not helped though with his comments and yes he was responsible for the time he was leader. BBC said the anti semitism had been going on before Corbyn but increased a lot under his leadership. They also apologised for hounding the whistle blowers and a BBC reporter
Apparently the legal team had assured labour that it was very unlikely they would lose the case "Well as they threw the towel in we will never know. They have admitted their guilt and paid up/ apologised so a good first step. I would be more worried if they continued to deny these things. Looks like its cost them control of Brighton council | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
Thats true enough. I was glad to see Labour at least trying to move on by admitting the mistakes of the past. Corbyn has not helped though with his comments and yes he was responsible for the time he was leader. BBC said the anti semitism had been going on before Corbyn but increased a lot under his leadership. They also apologised for hounding the whistle blowers and a BBC reporter
Apparently the legal team had assured labour that it was very unlikely they would lose the case
Well as they threw the towel in we will never know. They have admitted their guilt and paid up/ apologised so a good first step. I would be more worried if they continued to deny these things. Looks like its cost them control of Brighton council"Is it the turn of the tories and islamaphobia now? | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
Thats true enough. I was glad to see Labour at least trying to move on by admitting the mistakes of the past. Corbyn has not helped though with his comments and yes he was responsible for the time he was leader. BBC said the anti semitism had been going on before Corbyn but increased a lot under his leadership. They also apologised for hounding the whistle blowers and a BBC reporter
Apparently the legal team had assured labour that it was very unlikely they would lose the case
Well as they threw the towel in we will never know. They have admitted their guilt and paid up/ apologised so a good first step. I would be more worried if they continued to deny these things. Looks like its cost them control of Brighton council
Is it the turn of the tories and islamaphobia now? "If they get reported in the same way and the evidence is good enough then don't see why not | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though? not from corbyn though eh, didn't he say today the labour party were wrong to apologise etc?
Corbyn isn’t the labour leader anymore, no he isn't anymore thank god but that still doesn't mean it is right for him not to apologise because it was under his watch so he was responsible, I am glad the party did what they did today shows finally on the right road again in my opinion.
Thats true enough. I was glad to see Labour at least trying to move on by admitting the mistakes of the past. Corbyn has not helped though with his comments and yes he was responsible for the time he was leader. BBC said the anti semitism had been going on before Corbyn but increased a lot under his leadership. They also apologised for hounding the whistle blowers and a BBC reporter
Apparently the legal team had assured labour that it was very unlikely they would lose the case
Well as they threw the towel in we will never know. They have admitted their guilt and paid up/ apologised so a good first step. I would be more worried if they continued to deny these things. Looks like its cost them control of Brighton council"Ks seems determined to alienate half the party. | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed I doubt that very much as Starmer would most likely have followed the same Brexit policy he advocated when he was Brexit Secretary under Corbyn. As we now know this was very much at odds with the prevailing mood of a large enough proportion of the country - enough to turn the Labour held "leave" voting areas into Tory gains. Agreed." . ,,,, yes I think Starmer would have followed the same plan , the country voted leave ,( without any idea of what was to follow ) , So let's negotiate with the EU , get a deal to leave , or a no deal putting it to the electorate to have the choice on an actual outcome , with the possibility of remaining if " project fear" appeared more like project reality . The Tories success in 2019 was based upon enough people voting to " get brexit done" without realizing what brexit was/is ,,and before anyone says that they did know what they voted for ,the UK are still negoting with the EU today , so even those negotiating on our behalf have no idea ,,those in favour of leaving are blindly accepting any outcome the negotiating team return with ,,the best example being leading brexit Tory Marc Francois who wrote to Barnier a few days ago complaining about a potential deal only for Barnier to point out to Francois that he himself had voted for the proposed deal in parliament , The Labour plan was the grown up plan , the Tory plan was the slogan plan and the slogan plan won ,,and with the polls still showing a Tory lead it appears as though three word slogans win the day | |||
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"I said a while ago..I think we have massive levels of deference in this country.Just cos someone can speak Latin and went to Eton we assume they are fit to run the country. On several occasions I've asked for someone to give me 1 attribute or achievement he has got.Im still waiting Considering what's in store for us ..that is frightening. I'll give you the only attribute he had, he was narrowly better than his opposition had labour had it's current front bench in place I truly believe the result would have been reversed I doubt that very much as Starmer would most likely have followed the same Brexit policy he advocated when he was Brexit Secretary under Corbyn. As we now know this was very much at odds with the prevailing mood of a large enough proportion of the country - enough to turn the Labour held "leave" voting areas into Tory gains. Agreed.. ,,,, yes I think Starmer would have followed the same plan , the country voted leave ,( without any idea of what was to follow ) , So let's negotiate with the EU , get a deal to leave , or a no deal putting it to the electorate to have the choice on an actual outcome , with the possibility of remaining if " project fear" appeared more like project reality . The Tories success in 2019 was based upon enough people voting to " get brexit done" without realizing what brexit was/is ,,and before anyone says that they did know what they voted for ,the UK are still negoting with the EU today , so even those negotiating on our behalf have no idea ,,those in favour of leaving are blindly accepting any outcome the negotiating team return with ,,the best example being leading brexit Tory Marc Francois who wrote to Barnier a few days ago complaining about a potential deal only for Barnier to point out to Francois that he himself had voted for the proposed deal in parliament , The Labour plan was the grown up plan , the Tory plan was the slogan plan and the slogan plan won ,,and with the polls still showing a Tory lead it appears as though three word slogans win the day " Excellent post | |||
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"Oh! Look. The Wednesday meeting of the 'Corby Club'. The next General Election is sheduled for: Thursday 2 May 2024. Be there or be square.
The corby club is where all the cool cats hang out
And apologise and have to give giant payouts becausee they lied.
And rightly so, the people involved deserved an apology and compensation, but you don’t mind being lied to though?
Funny how that didn't happen in 10 years of anti-semitism.
Oh dear
Just like Corby - no answer to that one huh?
Please provide an example of JC being anti.semitic..a quote..link..
Hhahahaha Jeesus what planet have you been on !!!
Just 1 quote..take your time
You take your time and read
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552"That seems to be a defeniton of anti semitism and details where Corbyn expelled several people from the party. Nothing whatsoever indicating jc being remotely anti semitic | |||
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/05/jeremy-corbyn-personally-accused-11-acts-anti-semitism-leaked/ " A piece from the total unbiased daily telegraph which accuses jc of anti semitism. Presumably the investigation will find out the truth about this. | |||
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/21/jeremy-corbyn-accused-lying-said-every-case-anti-semitism-had/" Another unbiased piece which accuses of jc being anti semitic because of the way you pronounced a word. You seriously couldn't make this shit up. | |||
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"https://www.timesofisrael.com/document-lists-9-instances-of-anti-semitism-by-corbyn-among-thousands-in-labour/" This seems to be a copy of the times allegations. The fact that in the report he was described as a "far left'politician shows you where its coming from. The evidence seems to include a forward to a book he had written.As I recall the book had a whole 1 line which made a jibe about Jews. It also repeats the story told in the daily mail about the hamas funeral.on fact check labour complained about the story and the only"evidence' is jc walking past a grave. There is also a reference to him backing a holocaust denier. I'd need to see some actual proof of that. | |||
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"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_UK_Labour_Party" Did you actually read that? At the end it says an 860 page report found no evidence of anti semitism being dealt with any difference. Again nothing whatsoever even remotely saying where jc had been anti semitic. | |||
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