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"Well done. I can genuinely say Boris has done a great thing." I agree, not sure some of his right wing racist supporters will approve though | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK. "I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK. " | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? "Dont give me that of course you do.  | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? Dont give me that of course you do. "It was a simple question? Either way it’s a good move from Boris, | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? Dont give me that of course you do.
It was a simple question? Either way it’s a good move from Boris, "What that the uk would take 4 million citizens if china broke the agreement? i really dont know but guess its online somewhere. | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? Dont give me that of course you do.
It was a simple question? Either way it’s a good move from Boris, What that the uk would take 4 million citizens if china broke the agreement? i really dont know but guess its online somewhere."I don’t know the answer, neither do you??  | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? Dont give me that of course you do.
It was a simple question? Either way it’s a good move from Boris, What that the uk would take 4 million citizens if china broke the agreement? i really dont know but guess its online somewhere.
I don’t know the answer, neither do you?? "no but would hazzard a guess that you expect the other side to keep to it still it lasted well for 23 years. | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? Dont give me that of course you do.
It was a simple question? Either way it’s a good move from Boris, What that the uk would take 4 million citizens if china broke the agreement? i really dont know but guess its online somewhere.
I don’t know the answer, neither do you?? no but would hazzard a guess that you expect the other side to keep to it still it lasted well for 23 years. "Sorry, but ‘hazard a guess’ is a bit to vague | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? Dont give me that of course you do.
It was a simple question? Either way it’s a good move from Boris, What that the uk would take 4 million citizens if china broke the agreement? i really dont know but guess its online somewhere.
I don’t know the answer, neither do you?? no but would hazzard a guess that you expect the other side to keep to it still it lasted well for 23 years.
Sorry, but ‘hazard a guess’ is a bit to vague "yeah i know but truthful and probably as reliable as some of the fab experts on here. | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China? "The British National Overseas status was created in 1985 to deal with concerns over the nationality of HK residents. There is no claim that the government are creating this now this point in time. What they are doing is providing a much longer right to remain in the UK. As it stands at the moment a BNO passport allows you to remain in the UK for 6 months (no right to work/study). Back in May when the new security law situation started there was a feeling the 6 months would be extended to 12 months, with a view to eventually providing a longish path to citizenship. What the government is now providing is an immediate 5 year leave to remain with full rights to work/study. A further 12 month settled status period would lead to citizenship. The 5 year leave to remain is far and above any expectation - and the government should be commended for this | |||
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China?
The British National Overseas status was created in 1985 to deal with concerns over the nationality of HK residents. There is no claim that the government are creating this now this point in time.
What they are doing is providing a much longer right to remain in the UK. As it stands at the moment a BNO passport allows you to remain in the UK for 6 months (no right to work/study). Back in May when the new security law situation started there was a feeling the 6 months would be extended to 12 months, with a view to eventually providing a longish path to citizenship.
What the government is now providing is an immediate 5 year leave to remain with full rights to work/study. A further 12 month settled status period would lead to citizenship.
The 5 year leave to remain is far and above any expectation - and the government should be commended for this
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"5 years leave to remain with right to work/study goes further than expected, and is a clear indication the government understands the responsibility of the UK to support the BNOs and the people of HK.
I don’t want to piss on Boris’s parade but wasn’t this agreed as part of the original deal to give HK back to China?
The British National Overseas status was created in 1985 to deal with concerns over the nationality of HK residents. There is no claim that the government are creating this now this point in time.
What they are doing is providing a much longer right to remain in the UK. As it stands at the moment a BNO passport allows you to remain in the UK for 6 months (no right to work/study). Back in May when the new security law situation started there was a feeling the 6 months would be extended to 12 months, with a view to eventually providing a longish path to citizenship.
What the government is now providing is an immediate 5 year leave to remain with full rights to work/study. A further 12 month settled status period would lead to citizenship.
The 5 year leave to remain is far and above any expectation - and the government should be commended for this
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"HK should not have been given back to China, we knew we could not trust the Chinese regime to honour there word & respect freedom & human rights " We had to the uk only had a 200 year lease nothing they could have done. | |||
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"The brexiters who have been whinging about immigration for years will be delighted. " Tory Brexiteer here ... Really happy with this was crossing my fingers for Hong Kong people, well done again Boris | |||
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"The brexiters who have been whinging about immigration for years will be delighted. Tory Brexiteer here ... Really happy with this was crossing my fingers for Hong Kong people, well done again Boris "yep me to | |||
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"You mean the restrictions on movement and economic sanctions we've imposed on ourselves? We haven't taken away Europe's right to live and work in 30 nations, we've taken away our own." Ha ha | |||
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"The brexiters who have been whinging about immigration for years will be delighted. Tory Brexiteer here ... Really happy with this was crossing my fingers for Hong Kong people, well done again Boris yep me to " | |||
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"You mean the restrictions on movement and economic sanctions we've imposed on ourselves? We haven't taken away Europe's right to live and work in 30 nations, we've taken away our own. Ha ha "Well have we removed our own rights or not? | |||
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"You mean the restrictions on movement and economic sanctions we've imposed on ourselves? We haven't taken away Europe's right to live and work in 30 nations, we've taken away our own. Ha ha
Well have we removed our own rights or not?"Can you explain your reason for linking the BNOs in Hong Kong and the U.K./EU relationship ? | |||
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"You mean the restrictions on movement and economic sanctions we've imposed on ourselves? We haven't taken away Europe's right to live and work in 30 nations, we've taken away our own. Ha ha
Well have we removed our own rights or not?"Yup  | |||
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"Can someone tell me where, or how we are going to house these 3 or four million people? " Exactly! This decision makes bojo look like a nut job. | |||
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"This is a signal to the rich. Most HK citizens won't be able to move here. They have neither the money or the inclination. A few thousand of the rich ones who are used to getting political favours with cash? What's not to like for the Tory party?" Oh right. Get the rich tory types here and ditch the less well off and look magnanimous. Crafty | |||
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"You mean the restrictions on movement and economic sanctions we've imposed on ourselves? We haven't taken away Europe's right to live and work in 30 nations, we've taken away our own. Ha ha "Amazing,somebody laughing at their freedom bring taken away... | |||
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"It may have been offered but take up is expected to be around a couple of thousand. Most of the uber rich Hong Kong citizens are favouring Australia. " Yup they have been buying property up around the more afluent parts of Austalia for some time now because they know HK's days are numbered as a good place to live and do business. China will suck the life out of the place and noone will be abe to say anything for fear of being shipped off the mainline china where it will be difficult to defend themselves. | |||
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"It may have been offered but take up is expected to be around a couple of thousand. Most of the uber rich Hong Kong citizens are favouring Australia. Yup they have been buying property up around the more afluent parts of Austalia for some time now because they know HK's days are numbered as a good place to live and do business. China will suck the life out of the place and noone will be abe to say anything for fear of being shipped off the mainline china where it will be difficult to defend themselves. " got make lives out in vancover last time he was over in uk. went for a drink and he mentionred about how many rich peeps from hing kong have mived there over the last cpl of years.basicaly the onrs with money will escape the ones without are stuck there | |||
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"Well done boris.credit where it is due Not many will stay under Chinese rule.would you after living free? Poor hk only need air fare over I presume they are entitled to benefits? Not saying that they would abuse the system,far from it,but they could use the system as intended until they are working " Working where exactly!?, doing what? | |||
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"Well done boris.credit where it is due Not many will stay under Chinese rule.would you after living free? Poor hk only need air fare over I presume they are entitled to benefits? Not saying that they would abuse the system,far from it,but they could use the system as intended until they are working Working where exactly!?, doing what? " They can do some of those jobs that are free now all those eastern Europeans aren't flooding your borders | |||
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"I presume they are entitled to benefits?" No they are not, at least until they have obtained the Indefinite Leave to Remain (Permanent Residence) status which would only happen after 5 years. I have gone through a similar route on a work visa and I have diligently paid my taxes over those years. Only benefit that I got was the Single Occupancy discount from my council tax. | |||
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"I believe that most people who are involved in those protests are born after July 1, 1997, the date of the handover, thus making them ineligible for the BNO status. The nationality is not a citizenship and therefore can’t be passed on to the next generation." which is where I think the government could do a little bit more with the criteria for BNO status.
That said from what I am hearing from friends in HK many of the young people feel very strongly about even the thought of having to leave and would rather stay and fight for their home . | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships?" Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? " We might have to if we want a good trade deal with them. We don’t don’t have the clout of being in the largest trading bloc anymore | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. " the US have basically killed the Huawei deal in a move a few weeks ago that seems to have gone under the radar... basically the US have banned their companies from providing huawei the "chips" they need for their phones..... that was the proviso in which MI5 said they would be given access to be a part of the 5G rollout..... now huawei will probably i assume have to use chinese "chips" from a security pov, because MI5 won't know whats in it and how it can be used, they probably will say there should be no involvement | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? " Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. " UK is far from being isolated. Wishful thinking perhaps on your part as you seek something that will push you to give up the British half of your citizenship...  | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. UK is far from being isolated. Wishful thinking perhaps on your part as you seek something that will push you to give up the British half of your citizenship... "what country's are 100% behind Britain on this hk passport matter | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. UK is far from being isolated. Wishful thinking perhaps on your part as you seek something that will push you to give up the British half of your citizenship... "This is a cretinous post to be honest. Instead you may want to stick to the topic as you’re usually keen on making sure that people do. Instead you should tell us who our allies are going to be in the near future when the UK will try to sanction a country? I’m all ears? Jersey, the Bermuda islands? | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. UK is far from being isolated. Wishful thinking perhaps on your part as you seek something that will push you to give up the British half of your citizenship... "Why are you talking about my nationality? It has nothing to do with this thread. Avoid personalising the issue. Thanks. | |||
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"what country's are 100% behind Britain on this hk passport matter " Here's the thing... the UK doesn't have to have the backing or approval of any other countries. It's a British matter being dealt with by HMG. However, it is fair to say that there is wide support, condemning the actions taken by China. The G7 issued a joint statement, 27 countries of the UN Human Rights Council criticized China, and a few countries are reviewing their ability to take-in any Hongkongers wishing to leave. UK is definitely not isolated. | |||
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"what country's are 100% behind Britain on this hk passport matter Here's the thing... the UK doesn't have to have the backing or approval of any other countries. It's a British matter being dealt with by HMG. However, it is fair to say that there is wide support, condemning the actions taken by China. The G7 issued a joint statement, 27 countries of the UN Human Rights Council criticized China, and a few countries are reviewing their ability to take-in any Hongkongers wishing to leave. UK is definitely not isolated. " so i take it that no country is backing the uk stance on this affair 100%, do the leaders of HMG not feel a bit silly trying to play at being a super power, when they are in fact just a small insignificant country on the edge of Europe | |||
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"what country's are 100% behind Britain on this hk passport matter Here's the thing... the UK doesn't have to have the backing or approval of any other countries. It's a British matter being dealt with by HMG. However, it is fair to say that there is wide support, condemning the actions taken by China. The G7 issued a joint statement, 27 countries of the UN Human Rights Council criticized China, and a few countries are reviewing their ability to take-in any Hongkongers wishing to leave. UK is definitely not isolated. so i take it that no country is backing the uk stance on this affair 100%, do the leaders of HMG not feel a bit silly trying to play at being a super power, when they are in fact just a small insignificant country on the edge of Europe " Why would the U.K. want to play at being a super power, they carry a responsibility for Hong Kong through the Sino British Joint Declaration. China is no longer adhering to the terms of the treaty, and U.K. is acting accordingly. You seem to be advocating we should go stand in the corner and shut up ? | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. " Yeah I clearly remember China being petrified of the EU | |||
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"what country's are 100% behind Britain on this hk passport matter Here's the thing... the UK doesn't have to have the backing or approval of any other countries. It's a British matter being dealt with by HMG. However, it is fair to say that there is wide support, condemning the actions taken by China. The G7 issued a joint statement, 27 countries of the UN Human Rights Council criticized China, and a few countries are reviewing their ability to take-in any Hongkongers wishing to leave. UK is definitely not isolated. so i take it that no country is backing the uk stance on this affair 100%, do the leaders of HMG not feel a bit silly trying to play at being a super power, when they are in fact just a small insignificant country on the edge of Europe Why would the U.K. want to play at being a super power, they carry a responsibility for Hong Kong through the Sino British Joint Declaration. China is no longer adhering to the terms of the treaty, and U.K. is acting accordingly. You seem to be advocating we should go stand in the corner and shut up ? You would be better off honouring the Anglo Irish agreement and stop playing like ye matter in the world anymore, as for hong kong Britain originally stole the area from china following the immoral and disgraceful opium war of 1840,your country grew rich on the misery of millions of Chinese addicts, equally as disgraceful as the wealth you gained from the slave trade " | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. Yeah I clearly remember China being petrified of the EU" Another one who likes twisting other people's posts. | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. Yeah I clearly remember China being petrified of the EU" Can you imagine how insignificant Britain is to China? | |||
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"China is clearly unimpressed with the UK's decision to offer citizenship to Hong Kongers and there might be some consequences to follow, especially if the gvt changes its mind over Huawei. I am getting increasingly worried about our foreign policy to say the least. To summarise: We've told 27 of our neighbours to get lost by going for Brexit and threatening them with a no deal; our relationship with Russia is as bad as it can get; now we're about to get in China's bad books. On the other side of the pond, we have a loony at the helm whose decisions are erratic and who 's not going to give us a trade deal so easily. What are we playing at? Is the intention to be as isolated as possible? Are we relying on Australia and NZ to make up for all the commercial consequences of our disastrous international relationships? Do you agree with China being "clearly unimpressed", should we simply roll over? Nobody said we should roll over. Having said that, we probably will. A bit like we roll over with Saudi Arabia. What I meant is that if we hadn't brexited, maybe we'd be a less isolated on the international scene. Now that we are out of the EU, we desperately need trade deals and because we are so isolated we are much more vulnerable and we have less leverage than we would have had from within the EU. Don't hold your breath, we're not going to scare China. We are the gnome, they are the giant. Yeah I clearly remember China being petrified of the EU Can you imagine how insignificant Britain is to China? " Yes about the same as the EU is to china. Seems they overreacting given how insignificant we are | |||
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