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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are " Yes theyre very arrogant about it. Not sure if they rely on mantrs e.g "they're poor because they want to be" . Or they just laugh at the homeless while striding out | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are " You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are " Full face value then. Win win | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then " Robert jenrick The leaders group Unatrack The scottish union association trust Conservative friends of Russia Investigation into Russian influence Care uk Nick hancock and babylon Rabdox laboratories | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then Robert jenrick The leaders group Unatrack The scottish union association trust Conservative friends of Russia Investigation into Russian influence Care uk Nick hancock and babylon Rabdox laboratories" Its the repainting of this plane that we are talking about.! Where is the evidence of corruption as alledged? | |||
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"ZZ336 “Vespina” - still looking great, and still fulfilling its military role
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then Robert jenrick The leaders group Unatrack The scottish union association trust Conservative friends of Russia Investigation into Russian influence Care uk Nick hancock and babylon Rabdox laboratories Its the repainting of this plane that we are talking about.! Where is the evidence of corruption as alledged? " Apologies Misread your post | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have. "You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?  | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then Robert jenrick The leaders group Unatrack The scottish union association trust Conservative friends of Russia Investigation into Russian influence Care uk Nick hancock and babylon Rabdox laboratories Its the repainting of this plane that we are talking about.! Where is the evidence of corruption as alledged? " At the moment, incompetence on over spending. Would like to see who was paid 900,000 and their political association and go from there. Depends if you think paying £754,500 extra is worth investigating i suppose | |||
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"ZZ336 “Vespina” - still looking great, and still fulfilling its military role
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then Robert jenrick The leaders group Unatrack The scottish union association trust Conservative friends of Russia Investigation into Russian influence Care uk Nick hancock and babylon Rabdox laboratories Its the repainting of this plane that we are talking about.! Where is the evidence of corruption as alledged? At the moment, incompetence on over spending. Would like to see who was paid 900,000 and their political association and go from there. Depends if you think paying £754,500 extra is worth investigating i suppose " Do your digging and come back with the facts then. Instead of just posting gossip taken off social media! Here's a name to start you off.. Alex Dorrian. | |||
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"ZZ336 “Vespina” - still looking great, and still fulfilling its military role
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... but it didn't... so enjoy it all the same "So the tories don't wadte money as labour is accused of? Granted, it's chicken feed when compared to the mega fuck up of hs2 | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost? "Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job. That costs money. Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater? Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains. High value assets need high value maintenance. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
"Aye professionalism and Christopher grayling go hand in hand. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
"who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit "It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are You have evidence of this regarding this contract? Please share then Robert jenrick The leaders group Unatrack The scottish union association trust Conservative friends of Russia Investigation into Russian influence Care uk Nick hancock and babylon Rabdox laboratories Its the repainting of this plane that we are talking about.! Where is the evidence of corruption as alledged? At the moment, incompetence on over spending. Would like to see who was paid 900,000 and their political association and go from there. Depends if you think paying £754,500 extra is worth investigating i suppose Do your digging and come back with the facts then. Instead of just posting gossip taken off social media! Here's a name to start you off.. Alex Dorrian." I did check on the cost of painting an airliner. Granted that the surface area might differ from plane to plane. The higher figure on average being £145,500. Cheaper again in the usa. Did or did it not cost 900,000 as reported on the news? | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
Aye professionalism and Christopher grayling go hand in hand."Please do not to engage with me on the forums regarding you opinion in another post. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included"... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q... Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly... | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism." .... and saving money should be praised .... | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism." Why is it a waste of hundreds of thousands of pounds? | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism." People are not arsed as long as it doesnt affect them directly. Most people are more interested in the x factor or Britain's got talent. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism. .... and saving money should be praised ...." As long as the savings are sensible, absolutely. Splitting hairs over the cost of paying. Honestly. I don't see the need for the paint job revamp. So airport staff can see the union jack arrive?  | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism. Why is it a waste of hundreds of thousands of pounds? " What changed that made this paint job necessary? | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism." Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes. "Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme.... (for my part I've thought it was a great idea) | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism. .... and saving money should be praised .... As long as the savings are sensible, absolutely. Splitting hairs over the cost of paying. Honestly. I don't see the need for the paint job revamp. So airport staff can see the union jack arrive? "Apparently no one will.do trade with us if we dont have a big fuck off union jack on the plane | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)"Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly..."Ok, let me get back to you | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism. Why is it a waste of hundreds of thousands of pounds? What changed that made this paint job necessary?" Aircraft need stripped and painted at numerous stages of its servisable life. This is to protect the airframe and components. It would have been done at some point. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes. "And if those jobs would be lost the gmnt would have to pay benefits etc. This way people will continue to pay tax and most of the money will be recouped. Its hardly Robin hood. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters."Thousands of lives lost. NHS staff without vital ppe. People left to die in care homes. Trivial. Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital Priorities | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
Thousands of lives lost.
NHS staff without vital ppe.
People left to die in care homes.
Trivial.
Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital
Priorities
"In case you haven't noticed this has happened in every country its called a pandemic. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters."So because you agree with one thing they do, you should ignore and even defend other things? That's the slavish part. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
Thousands of lives lost.
NHS staff without vital ppe.
People left to die in care homes.
Trivial.
Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital
Priorities
In case you haven't noticed this has happened in every country its called a pandemic."With less numbers....hmm, reasons?? | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
Thousands of lives lost.
NHS staff without vital ppe.
People left to die in care homes.
Trivial.
Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital
Priorities
In case you haven't noticed this has happened in every country its called a pandemic.
With less numbers....hmm, reasons??"Well this will all come out when its over and countries can analyse all the relevant data. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism. Why is it a waste of hundreds of thousands of pounds? What changed that made this paint job necessary? Aircraft need stripped and painted at numerous stages of its servisable life. This is to protect the airframe and components. It would have been done at some point. " Yep, but the rebranding seems to have bumped up the cost of that considerably. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
Thousands of lives lost.
NHS staff without vital ppe.
People left to die in care homes.
Trivial.
Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital
Priorities
In case you haven't noticed this has happened in every country its called a pandemic."Cant beat a bit of whatabouttery. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
Thousands of lives lost.
NHS staff without vital ppe.
People left to die in care homes.
Trivial.
Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital
Priorities
In case you haven't noticed this has happened in every country its called a pandemic.
With less numbers....hmm, reasons??Well this will all come out when its over and countries can analyse all the relevant data. "We are not allowed to raise it now then? Funny, the government produced slides at the briefings comparing our death rate with other countries. Then, stopped doing so, when our numbers were higher than theirs. Probably just a coincidence. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
So because you agree with one thing they do, you should ignore and even defend other things? That's the slavish part. "Do you really think that half way through a pandemic boris said lets paint a plane? these things take months to arrange you dont just take it down the nearest paint shop and get it sprayed.If the truth was known it was probably going to cost a shed load to cancel the contract so probably more cost effective to go ahead with it. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
Thousands of lives lost.
NHS staff without vital ppe.
People left to die in care homes.
Trivial.
Spending 800k on a paintjob.vital
Priorities
In case you haven't noticed this has happened in every country its called a pandemic.
With less numbers....hmm, reasons??Well this will all come out when its over and countries can analyse all the relevant data.
We are not allowed to raise it now then? Funny, the government produced slides at the briefings comparing our death rate with other countries. Then, stopped doing so, when our numbers were higher than theirs. Probably just a coincidence."Of course talk about it as much as you want but until all the relevant data is collected once its over i wouldn't jump to any conclusions. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
So because you agree with one thing they do, you should ignore and even defend other things? That's the slavish part. Do you really think that half way through a pandemic boris said lets paint a plane? these things take months to arrange you dont just take it down the nearest paint shop and get it sprayed.If the truth was known it was probably going to cost a shed load to cancel the contract so probably more cost effective to go ahead with it. "Pandemic or not, it's a waste of money. In and of itself, it's not a massive waste compared to some other things, but it's not a good look. At this point however, I'd say it's becoming a bigger talking point than it really is. The government have got more serious questions to face. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
So because you agree with one thing they do, you should ignore and even defend other things? That's the slavish part. Do you really think that half way through a pandemic boris said lets paint a plane? these things take months to arrange you dont just take it down the nearest paint shop and get it sprayed.If the truth was known it was probably going to cost a shed load to cancel the contract so probably more cost effective to go ahead with it.
Pandemic or not, it's a waste of money.
In and of itself, it's not a massive waste compared to some other things, but it's not a good look. At this point however, I'd say it's becoming a bigger talking point than it really is. The government have got more serious questions to face. "Take your point some conciser advertising a waste of money . | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
So because you agree with one thing they do, you should ignore and even defend other things? That's the slavish part. Do you really think that half way through a pandemic boris said lets paint a plane? these things take months to arrange you dont just take it down the nearest paint shop and get it sprayed.If the truth was known it was probably going to cost a shed load to cancel the contract so probably more cost effective to go ahead with it. "Half way through the panic he was still swerving crucial meetings wasnt he? | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism.Yeah and it always surprises me that people who "probably regard themselves as intelligent" are quick to jump on a media bandwagon about the cost of a paint job and dont want to mention the £100 billion the government has spent on job retention schemes.
Nice bit of whataboutery... go start a thread on the job retention scheme....
(for my part I've thought it was a great idea)Not whataboutery mate its about the slavish devotion comment when you vote for someone not everything they do is going to please you but if you are happy with the big important things thats what matters.
So because you agree with one thing they do, you should ignore and even defend other things? That's the slavish part. Do you really think that half way through a pandemic boris said lets paint a plane? these things take months to arrange you dont just take it down the nearest paint shop and get it sprayed.If the truth was known it was probably going to cost a shed load to cancel the contract so probably more cost effective to go ahead with it.
Pandemic or not, it's a waste of money.
In and of itself, it's not a massive waste compared to some other things, but it's not a good look. At this point however, I'd say it's becoming a bigger talking point than it really is. The government have got more serious questions to face. Take your point some conciser advertising a waste of money . "Before Brexit we were told countries would be falling over themselves to do business with us. The idea that we can only do successfull trade if we have a big union jack on the plane is beyond satire. | |||
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"I'm always surprised by the slavish devotion shown by people who probably regard themselves as intelligent. Doesn't matter who's in power. If they waste hundreds of thousands at a time of national crisis, then they deserve criticism. Why is it a waste of hundreds of thousands of pounds? What changed that made this paint job necessary? Aircraft need stripped and painted at numerous stages of its servisable life. This is to protect the airframe and components. It would have been done at some point. Yep, but the rebranding seems to have bumped up the cost of that considerably. The BBC spent $1,800,000 on rebranding three letters. Its an expensive game. Missed that one - when did that happen?" Ages ago, just before the millennium I think. They went from three capitol letters in white font on a black square background with rounded edges to three capitol letters in white font on a black square background with pronounced edges. | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does" lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. | |||
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"Because it's costs the RAF that much for a full depth maintenance and respray. If it was done in the IR grey it would have cost the same if not more. Please refrain from posting utter nonsense you know nothing about." You know they can't right? It's like a compulsion. | |||
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"In totalitarian gmnts They would often use whole sections of the police force to clamp down on any criticism of the gmnt. Here we just have people making sneering comments about 'so called experts' as apparently they know best. Gotta give the Tories credit tbh." Mate in case you haven't noticed this is a swingers site forum nothing more and opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and unless you are an expert in the field discussed expect to get called a "so called" expert.Nothing to do with the tories at all. | |||
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"In totalitarian gmnts They would often use whole sections of the police force to clamp down on any criticism of the gmnt. Here we just have people making sneering comments about 'so called experts' as apparently they know best. Gotta give the Tories credit tbh.Mate in case you haven't noticed this is a swingers site forum nothing more and opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and unless you are an expert in the field discussed expect to get called a "so called" expert.Nothing to do with the tories at all. " I was referring to a post above when someone was a advised to stop posting nonsense. I welcome a lively debate and wouldnt tell anyone to shut up. | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. I'd say under Corbyn they were but huge numbers of the working class voted in that buffoon instead. like I said I cant agree with you on Corbyn, if he was it didn't resonate with the members I represent anyway, there manifesto pledge to take away the opt out from the EU working time directive was a good example of why, also I think most working class/ low end pay scale wanted Brexit and labour didn't so that was another vote loser. I know people say why would they want to be worse off etc etc, but when you don't have two Penny's spare being told you will be worse off doesn't really matter if you have nothing to begin with." Completely different here..he was massively popular here.Didnt the eu have loads of directives in to actual protect workers? If you are a normal working person and you genuinely believe you are no worse off than you would have been under Corbyn,quite frankly I've got no sympathy whatsoever. The same thing happened under thatcher.Normal people actually believe those cunts gave a flying flick about them. I cant wait till it all comes crashing down | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. I'd say under Corbyn they were but huge numbers of the working class voted in that buffoon instead. like I said I cant agree with you on Corbyn, if he was it didn't resonate with the members I represent anyway, there manifesto pledge to take away the opt out from the EU working time directive was a good example of why, also I think most working class/ low end pay scale wanted Brexit and labour didn't so that was another vote loser. I know people say why would they want to be worse off etc etc, but when you don't have two Penny's spare being told you will be worse off doesn't really matter if you have nothing to begin with. Completely different here..he was massively popular here.Didnt the eu have loads of directives in to actual protect workers? If you are a normal working person and you genuinely believe you are no worse off than you would have been under Corbyn,quite frankly I've got no sympathy whatsoever. The same thing happened under thatcher.Normal people actually believe those cunts gave a flying flick about them. I cant wait till it all comes crashing down " Dont knock maggie never made so much money while she was in charge. | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. I'd say under Corbyn they were but huge numbers of the working class voted in that buffoon instead. like I said I cant agree with you on Corbyn, if he was it didn't resonate with the members I represent anyway, there manifesto pledge to take away the opt out from the EU working time directive was a good example of why, also I think most working class/ low end pay scale wanted Brexit and labour didn't so that was another vote loser. I know people say why would they want to be worse off etc etc, but when you don't have two Penny's spare being told you will be worse off doesn't really matter if you have nothing to begin with. Completely different here..he was massively popular here.Didnt the eu have loads of directives in to actual protect workers? If you are a normal working person and you genuinely believe you are no worse off than you would have been under Corbyn,quite frankly I've got no sympathy whatsoever. The same thing happened under thatcher.Normal people actually believe those cunts gave a flying flick about them. I cant wait till it all comes crashing down Dont knock maggie never made so much money while she was in charge. "Summarising thatcherism in a nutshell | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. I'd say under Corbyn they were but huge numbers of the working class voted in that buffoon instead. like I said I cant agree with you on Corbyn, if he was it didn't resonate with the members I represent anyway, there manifesto pledge to take away the opt out from the EU working time directive was a good example of why, also I think most working class/ low end pay scale wanted Brexit and labour didn't so that was another vote loser. I know people say why would they want to be worse off etc etc, but when you don't have two Penny's spare being told you will be worse off doesn't really matter if you have nothing to begin with. Completely different here..he was massively popular here.Didnt the eu have loads of directives in to actual protect workers? If you are a normal working person and you genuinely believe you are no worse off than you would have been under Corbyn,quite frankly I've got no sympathy whatsoever. The same thing happened under thatcher.Normal people actually believe those cunts gave a flying flick about them. I cant wait till it all comes crashing down " yes there were directive to protect workers, but one I am referring to would have stopped my members working overtime etc which is how they make there money, so if would of harmed them financially,and yes to answer your question I am a normal working person, but I am afraid personally I didn't like a lot of what labour wanted to do at the last election so they did not get my vote, and although I cant speak for all of them I know this was the case with most of the members here. And no I dnt believe I am worse off through not voting for him, my wage hasn't changed much, still getting extra hrs and the whole brexit thing is small for the company I work for as the EU is our smallest market, the USA, China, Africa, India etc are far more important to our business. | |||
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And therin lies the problem. Your bank balance is more important than her destruction of most of our manufacturing industry and the decline of everything outside of the home counties. Some of us would happily pay more tax to stop people having to use food banks. I suspect you wouldn't. "Of course you would know alot about the opportunities that were created by thatcher being 1 y/o when she came to power. | |||
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And therin lies the problem. Your bank balance is more important than her destruction of most of our manufacturing industry and the decline of everything outside of the home counties. Some of us would happily pay more tax to stop people having to use food banks. I suspect you wouldn't. Of course you would know alot about the opportunities that were created by thatcher being 1 y/o when she came to power.
Maths and history clearly not your strong points then. "Read all you want mate but you are only getting peoples opinions, living it is different altogether.It was a golden age if you were prepared to work. | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. I'd say under Corbyn they were but huge numbers of the working class voted in that buffoon instead. like I said I cant agree with you on Corbyn, if he was it didn't resonate with the members I represent anyway, there manifesto pledge to take away the opt out from the EU working time directive was a good example of why, also I think most working class/ low end pay scale wanted Brexit and labour didn't so that was another vote loser. I know people say why would they want to be worse off etc etc, but when you don't have two Penny's spare being told you will be worse off doesn't really matter if you have nothing to begin with. Completely different here..he was massively popular here.Didnt the eu have loads of directives in to actual protect workers? If you are a normal working person and you genuinely believe you are no worse off than you would have been under Corbyn,quite frankly I've got no sympathy whatsoever. The same thing happened under thatcher.Normal people actually believe those cunts gave a flying flick about them. I cant wait till it all comes crashing down yes there were directive to protect workers, but one I am referring to would have stopped my members working overtime etc which is how they make there money, so if would of harmed them financially,and yes to answer your question I am a normal working person, but I am afraid personally I didn't like a lot of what labour wanted to do at the last election so they did not get my vote, and although I cant speak for all of them I know this was the case with most of the members here. And no I dnt believe I am worse off through not voting for him, my wage hasn't changed much, still getting extra hrs and the whole brexit thing is small for the company I work for as the EU is our smallest market, the USA, China, Africa, India etc are far more important to our business. " That's 1 part of it..what about minimum wage?terms and conditions? Surely as a union rep you are aware of how the Tories view organised labour? It may not be now..let's see in 5 years time. We have had 6 years pay freeze under this shower and attacks on pensions and working conditions. Wonder if people will be so keen to vote for them after 5 years of Brexit | |||
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And therin lies the problem. Your bank balance is more important than her destruction of most of our manufacturing industry and the decline of everything outside of the home counties. Some of us would happily pay more tax to stop people having to use food banks. I suspect you wouldn't. Of course you would know alot about the opportunities that were created by thatcher being 1 y/o when she came to power.
Maths and history clearly not your strong points then. Read all you want mate but you are only getting peoples opinions, living it is different altogether.It was a golden age if you were prepared to work. "You realise there was 3 million unemployed in the 80s? | |||
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And therin lies the problem. Your bank balance is more important than her destruction of most of our manufacturing industry and the decline of everything outside of the home counties. Some of us would happily pay more tax to stop people having to use food banks. I suspect you wouldn't. Of course you would know alot about the opportunities that were created by thatcher being 1 y/o when she came to power.
Maths and history clearly not your strong points then. Read all you want mate but you are only getting peoples opinions, living it is different altogether.It was a golden age if you were prepared to work.
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" Dont knock maggie never made so much money while she was in charge.
And therin lies the problem. Your bank balance is more important than her destruction of most of our manufacturing industry and the decline of everything outside of the home counties. Some of us would happily pay more tax to stop people having to use food banks. I suspect you wouldn't. Of course you would know alot about the opportunities that were created by thatcher being 1 y/o when she came to power.
Maths and history clearly not your strong points then. Read all you want mate but you are only getting peoples opinions, living it is different altogether.It was a golden age if you were prepared to work.
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" I cant wait till it all comes crashing down This is the sick attitude of the left. They crave the opportunity to say "I told you so". You see it soo often on this forum. Imagine being that bitter. Sad. " Sick Brilliant | |||
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" I cant wait till it all comes crashing down This is the sick attitude of the left. They crave the opportunity to say "I told you so". You see it soo often on this forum. Imagine being that bitter. Sad. Just to clarify, what's sick about it? You cant see anything wrong with someones attitude wanting your country to fail just to prove you are right? The mind boggles." Eh?! Where was there anything about a country falling
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Last I checked the UK as a nation is not the same thing as a political ideology!"Cant wait until it all comes crashing down is the giveaway i think. | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that." The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work. | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit." She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions. | |||
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" I cant wait till it all comes crashing down This is the sick attitude of the left. They crave the opportunity to say "I told you so". You see it soo often on this forum. Imagine being that bitter. Sad. Just to clarify, what's sick about it? You cant see anything wrong with someones attitude wanting your country to fail just to prove you are right? The mind boggles. Eh?! Where was there anything about a country falling
Last I checked the UK as a nation is not the same thing as a political ideology!Cant wait until it all comes crashing down is the giveaway i think. "Giveaway for what? I'm honestly confused as to what you're on about. If you don't like a political ideology and system, and blame it for wreaking untold harm, then why on earth wouldn't you want to see it crash? The schadenfreude is less appealing, but I would certainly like to see the working class of this country who backed the tories realise that they've voted for a true elite who have latched onto populism to gain support, but who have very little interest in improving life for anyone with less power. | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions." Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms. | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions.Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms." The unions,funded by the kgb' deliberately sabotaged their own,and their members jobs? Rightio | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have. "Now now, no need to get shirty | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions.Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms. The unions,funded by the kgb' deliberately sabotaged their own,and their members jobs? Rightio" Yes mate remember jack jones? a KGB agent released papers about 10 years ago on the subject.What about red robbo of British layland a communist who called over 500 strikes in 2 years opposed any modernization and was finally sussed by the workers who would not go on strike when he was sacked.Think ken loach made a film about him,communist, union agitator who would do anything and crap on all his "comrades" to have a communist uk. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly..."Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips . Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient. Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have been an issue i would hsve thought. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
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"In totalitarian gmnts They would often use whole sections of the police force to clamp down on any criticism of the gmnt. Here we just have people making sneering comments about 'so called experts' as apparently they know best. Gotta give the Tories credit tbh.Mate in case you haven't noticed this is a swingers site forum nothing more and opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and unless you are an expert in the field discussed expect to get called a "so called" expert.Nothing to do with the tories at all. I was referring to a post above when someone was a advised to stop posting nonsense. I welcome a lively debate and wouldnt tell anyone to shut up." | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far. "Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far. "Your entitled to your opinion. Can you elaborate? Granted it's not a large sum compared to other government spends | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me "So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job. You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330 You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far. "If you could provide a factual retort it would be welcome | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
"The reported spend is on the paint job, nothing else! If you have actual information then please send a link. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
If you could provide a factual retort it would be welcome "So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job. You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330 You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
The reported spend is on the paint job, nothing else!
If you have actual information then please send a link. "I suggest you contact Marshall's aerospace and tell them exactly why you need to know. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
If you could provide a factual retort it would be welcome
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
The reported spend is on the paint job, nothing else!
If you have actual information then please send a link.
I suggest you contact Marshall's aerospace and tell them exactly why you need to know. "Have a cup of tea and relax. | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
The reported spend is on the paint job, nothing else!
If you have actual information then please send a link.
I suggest you contact Marshall's aerospace and tell them exactly why you need to know.
Have a cup of tea and relax.
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
The reported spend is on the paint job, nothing else!
If you have actual information then please send a link.
I suggest you contact Marshall's aerospace and tell them exactly why you need to know.
Have a cup of tea and relax.
Im having a shit, that would be weird. "Urrgh! Afterwards lol | |||
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"Same answer as the other two posts. It's done, it looks really cool and there ain't nothing you can do about it. Except start a third thread trying to explain why the thing that happened shouldn't have.
You seem happy at any price, can i do jobs for you at exorbitant cost?
Lol like the government i would expect a highly professional job.
That costs money.
Do you think the job would have been done better and cheaper if it was done by Big Ron the panel beater?
Shall we let Nigel at number 3 be choose the next generation of rolling stock because he is really good at building model trains.
High value assets need high value maintenance.
who would have thought there was far more to painting a plane than popping down B&Q and picking up a tin of magnolia and a £4 roller/tray kit
"It is a specialised area, much stripping, pre-treatment, tie-coats, preparation, not your average paint and partial stripping of components may well be required. It feels like, say £900,000 for a multi-colour finish, might be something of a bargain.", and ... "Specialised labour, working at heights, safety regime, security requirements, safe disposal of waste, it's a big project so project management team and large facility, (American?) it all adds up."
Yup, looked into the cost of painting and i assume the £145,500 is all included
... if Nige from No.3 is doing the job with a tin of magnolia from B&Q...
Let's see your cost breakdown so we can assess if you have quoted the job correctly...
Right, had a look on specialist aircraft sites snd also Google, rather than using your opinion based supposition and boring derogatory quips .
Generous figure of £145,500, is the figure, based on the fixed price for designing the livery scheme., then applying it to x amount of aircraft in the fleet, working out cheaper for each plane painted. In this case, 1 aircraft. Beinf in my opinion very inefficient.
Iin the 1st gulf war, a squadron of fighter bombers were painted by raf ground crews, so doing up 1 plane wouldn't have
been an issue i would hsve thought.
Possibly the most naive post on the subject so far.
Was just thinking this thread could use a pointless, unsubstantiated comment like this
Oh, and the irony is not lost on me
So you think ground crew could have made just as good a job.
You don't find it odd that the op didn't find out how much a C check costs on an A330
You're fine with the fact the op didn't explore the cost around de-moding then modifying the IFF system, not to mention the cost of other sensitive operations that would have been incorporated into the servicing.
The reported spend is on the paint job, nothing else!
If you have actual information then please send a link.
I suggest you contact Marshall's aerospace and tell them exactly why you need to know.
Have a cup of tea and relax.
Im having a shit, that would be weird.
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" I cant wait till it all comes crashing down " No. Csnt accept that. I hope that doesn't happen at at all. What would be amusing is if the quuen took it, boris needs to get to america for a n important trade deal and the only one available is in drab grey .
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Better still, a hot air balloon. Boris will supply the hot air",,,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,the queen wants it to fly to Balmoral,,,,,, Johnson wants it to go the the good old U S of A to show Donald that he's got a big plane ,,,,,,,,but Cummings has got it ,sat in the pilots seat taking a flight over Barnard Castle to test his eye sight  | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions.Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms. The unions,funded by the kgb' deliberately sabotaged their own,and their members jobs? RightioYes mate remember jack jones? a KGB agent released papers about 10 years ago on the subject.What about red robbo of British layland a communist who called over 500 strikes in 2 years opposed any modernization and was finally sussed by the workers who would not go on strike when he was sacked.Think ken loach made a film about him,communist, union agitator who would do anything and crap on all his "comrades" to have a communist uk." Yep there is a statue of him in liverpool. Yep according to the mail he was a KGB agent and if anyone knows the state secrets of the conservative gmnt the natural option would be a radical socialist | |||
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" I cant wait till it all comes crashing down No. Csnt accept that. I hope that doesn't happen at at all. What would be amusing is if the quuen took it, boris needs to get to america for a n important trade deal and the only one available is in drab grey .
Better still, a hot air balloon. Boris will supply the hot air,,,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,the queen wants it to fly to Balmoral,,,,,, Johnson wants it to go the the good old U S of A to show Donald that he's got a big plane ,,,,,,,,but Cummings has got it ,sat in the pilots seat taking a flight over Barnard Castle to test his eye sight "The Queen doesn't fly abroad anymore. She'll not be needing it. | |||
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"We are just a joke, a laughing stock. Pictures of the PM doing press-ups to our currency being compared to the Peso. It's done now. It's almost like you know the car is gonna crash but you just brace and hope to god it won't be as bad as we think. I'm.not sure if the penny will ever drop for working class Tories that the likes of johnson couldnt give a flying fuck about them. But I'd love to be there when it does lol I think most working class voters know the Tories dnt really give a shit about them, they also know that neither do any of the other political parties. There simply isn't a working class party anymore, you may still think labour is but the majority don't anymore. The results of the recent elections and the feedback I get from being a shop steward for nearly 20 yrs has proved this to me. I'd say under Corbyn they were but huge numbers of the working class voted in that buffoon instead. like I said I cant agree with you on Corbyn, if he was it didn't resonate with the members I represent anyway, there manifesto pledge to take away the opt out from the EU working time directive was a good example of why, also I think most working class/ low end pay scale wanted Brexit and labour didn't so that was another vote loser. I know people say why would they want to be worse off etc etc, but when you don't have two Penny's spare being told you will be worse off doesn't really matter if you have nothing to begin with. Completely different here..he was massively popular here.Didnt the eu have loads of directives in to actual protect workers? If you are a normal working person and you genuinely believe you are no worse off than you would have been under Corbyn,quite frankly I've got no sympathy whatsoever. The same thing happened under thatcher.Normal people actually believe those cunts gave a flying flick about them. I cant wait till it all comes crashing down yes there were directive to protect workers, but one I am referring to would have stopped my members working overtime etc which is how they make there money, so if would of harmed them financially,and yes to answer your question I am a normal working person, but I am afraid personally I didn't like a lot of what labour wanted to do at the last election so they did not get my vote, and although I cant speak for all of them I know this was the case with most of the members here. And no I dnt believe I am worse off through not voting for him, my wage hasn't changed much, still getting extra hrs and the whole brexit thing is small for the company I work for as the EU is our smallest market, the USA, China, Africa, India etc are far more important to our business. That's 1 part of it..what about minimum wage?terms and conditions? Surely as a union rep you are aware of how the Tories view organised labour? It may not be now..let's see in 5 years time. We have had 6 years pay freeze under this shower and attacks on pensions and working conditions. Wonder if people will be so keen to vote for them after 5 years of Brexit " by sounds of things you are having a far harder time than my members, we have had no attacks on any of our rights or practices, nobody is on the minimum wage rate,we have had a pay every year and increases to our pensions in that time above the level of contribution that is required of the employer, and you may be right about brexit but I really dnt think it will affect our business much at all, as I said the EU is our smallest market and if anything I can only see it getting smaller, its the developing countries that are our key markets and where we are making money. Maybe we are just lucky, but we have a good working relationship with my employer and a high density rate amongst our employees which helps greatly when bargaining as I am sure you are aware. | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions.Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms. The unions,funded by the kgb' deliberately sabotaged their own,and their members jobs? RightioYes mate remember jack jones? a KGB agent released papers about 10 years ago on the subject.What about red robbo of British layland a communist who called over 500 strikes in 2 years opposed any modernization and was finally sussed by the workers who would not go on strike when he was sacked.Think ken loach made a film about him,communist, union agitator who would do anything and crap on all his "comrades" to have a communist uk. Yep there is a statue of him in liverpool. Yep according to the mail he was a KGB agent and if anyone knows the state secrets of the conservative gmnt the natural option would be a radical socialist" Try reading the diaries of Anatoly Chernyaev should be right up your street rather than the daily mail, get it straight from the horses mouth. | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84 "Why are you bringing Corbyn into it? | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions.Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms. The unions,funded by the kgb' deliberately sabotaged their own,and their members jobs? RightioYes mate remember jack jones? a KGB agent released papers about 10 years ago on the subject.What about red robbo of British layland a communist who called over 500 strikes in 2 years opposed any modernization and was finally sussed by the workers who would not go on strike when he was sacked.Think ken loach made a film about him,communist, union agitator who would do anything and crap on all his "comrades" to have a communist uk. Yep there is a statue of him in liverpool. Yep according to the mail he was a KGB agent and if anyone knows the state secrets of the conservative gmnt the natural option would be a radical socialistTry reading the diaries of Anatoly Chernyaev should be right up your street rather than the daily mail, get it straight from the horses mouth." If you cant take the word of a Russian double agent who can you trust? | |||
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"Cant beat a tory who is quite happy to see 3 million unemployed as long as they are ok,take the moral high ground. As i said before and you didnt counter it your precious unions had a lot to do with that. The unions were not responsible for 3 million people being out of work.Come off it you must have a short memory demarcation,strikes, making it impossible for companies to make a profit. She destroyed forever the manufacturing base in this country She sold off many of our assets Her belief in free market economy left millions on the scraphreap Her boom and bust policies let to the crash of 87 Deregulation of the banks contributed to the crash on 08 Fuck all to do with the unions.Manufacturing was destroyed by the unions,ever work in a shipyard? demarcation killed them, made it impossible for uk shipyards to compete. The union rules and nothing to do with health and safety priced us out of the market what with a little help from the KGB paying union officials to fuck the uk economy.Workers forced to go on strike knowing they will never recover the wages lost even if they got another fiver a week.This is why manufacturing died, for what purpose would a government try to destroy its economy whatever colour it is? they get elected again on success and she managed 3 terms. The unions,funded by the kgb' deliberately sabotaged their own,and their members jobs? RightioYes mate remember jack jones? a KGB agent released papers about 10 years ago on the subject.What about red robbo of British layland a communist who called over 500 strikes in 2 years opposed any modernization and was finally sussed by the workers who would not go on strike when he was sacked.Think ken loach made a film about him,communist, union agitator who would do anything and crap on all his "comrades" to have a communist uk. Yep there is a statue of him in liverpool. Yep according to the mail he was a KGB agent and if anyone knows the state secrets of the conservative gmnt the natural option would be a radical socialistTry reading the diaries of Anatoly Chernyaev should be right up your street rather than the daily mail, get it straight from the horses mouth. If you cant take the word of a Russian double agent who can you trust?" Double agent? | |||
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Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
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Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ",,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is | |||
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Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is "Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous " Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..!" Maybe it won’t? It’s like putting a turd in a shiny new box, it’s still a turd . | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..!" If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour | |||
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" I cant wait till it all comes crashing down No. Csnt accept that. I hope that doesn't happen at at all. What would be amusing is if the quuen took it, boris needs to get to america for a n important trade deal and the only one available is in drab grey .
Better still, a hot air balloon. Boris will supply the hot air,,,,,,,,or,,,,,,,,the queen wants it to fly to Balmoral,,,,,, Johnson wants it to go the the good old U S of A to show Donald that he's got a big plane ,,,,,,,,but Cummings has got it ,sat in the pilots seat taking a flight over Barnard Castle to test his eye sight " | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant? "Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect? | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ",,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are , | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour" In the interest of not needlessly spending more money no. | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?"Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election? | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election? "That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money " | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,"These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best. | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,
These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best. "This thread also shows that 1% of posters think they know everything about aviation and everything else. And yes it’s you. You’ve got laugh at people who think they know it all and come up with crap in every single post. | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election? "At what point did I say that?. Just saying if he wins he gets to use it and you agree | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,
These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best.
This thread also shows that 1% of posters think they know everything about aviation and everything else. And yes it’s you. You’ve got laugh at people who think they know it all and come up with crap in every single post. "Sounds like someone needs a nice cup of tea. | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money "Where did I blame starmer? | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?"Why did you bring up Starmer? | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
At what point did I say that?. Just saying if he wins he gets to use it and you agree"Yeah that’s true, he would also get to use it if it had stayed grey?? | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,
These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best. ",,,,,,i would probably guess that 98% of the population ( probably 99% ) know nothing about aviation , so , if you do , please use this thread ( and the previous 2 ,,,and maybe more to follow ) to enjoy your thrill and excitement ( along with Johnson and his brexit buddies ) about a plane and if you consider it money well spent then fair enough ,, | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?
Why did you bring up Starmer? "Because it's not "Boris's" plane, just like they're not his aircraft carriers. It's a fair point. If the government changed tomorrow that aircraft would still be the preferred option for the prime minister to travel over seas in. | |||
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"I hope this gets an episode 4. "It deserves one | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?
Why did you bring up Starmer?
Because it's not "Boris's" plane, just like they're not his aircraft carriers. It's a fair point. If the government changed tomorrow that aircraft would still be the preferred option for the prime minister to travel over seas in. "Who authorised the ‘paint job’ ?? Did Boris use the plane when it was painted grey?? | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,
These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best. ,,,,,,i would probably guess that 98% of the population ( probably 99% ) know nothing about aviation , so , if you do , please use this thread ( and the previous 2 ,,,and maybe more to follow ) to enjoy your thrill and excitement ( along with Johnson and his brexit buddies ) about a plane and if you consider it money well spent then fair enough ,,"Why are you bringing up Brexit? 900,000 quid is as much as you'd expect to pay for a paint job, a service and a modification program. Why do you find it soo hard to understand? | |||
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"I hope this gets an episode 4.
It deserves one ". ,,,,,,,, Airplane IV | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,
These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best. ,,,,,,i would probably guess that 98% of the population ( probably 99% ) know nothing about aviation , so , if you do , please use this thread ( and the previous 2 ,,,and maybe more to follow ) to enjoy your thrill and excitement ( along with Johnson and his brexit buddies ) about a plane and if you consider it money well spent then fair enough ,,
Why are you bringing up Brexit? 900,000 quid is as much as you'd expect to pay for a paint job, a service and a modification program. Why do you find it soo hard to understand? "Give me one reason why it needed to be painted white with a Union Jack on the tail? | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?
Why did you bring up Starmer?
Because it's not "Boris's" plane, just like they're not his aircraft carriers. It's a fair point. If the government changed tomorrow that aircraft would still be the preferred option for the prime minister to travel over seas in.
Who authorised the ‘paint job’ ?? Did Boris use the plane when it was painted grey?? "When will you admit it's the flag and Boris that you don't like, rather than the bill which you don't understand? | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?
Why did you bring up Starmer?
Because it's not "Boris's" plane, just like they're not his aircraft carriers. It's a fair point. If the government changed tomorrow that aircraft would still be the preferred option for the prime minister to travel over seas in.
Who authorised the ‘paint job’ ?? Did Boris use the plane when it was painted grey??
When will you admit it's the flag and Boris that you don't like, rather than the bill which you don't understand?"Just answer the question? If you can | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?
Why did you bring up Starmer? "Both Corbyn and the KGB have been discussed here, did you question them? Neither Corbyn or the KGB are in with much of a chance to use the plane. Starmer is if he wins | |||
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"What is the point in spending £900,000 on a plane when Boris looks like a tramp? He should invest in a new fit suit and a hair brush, he looks horrendous Maybe the paint job will out live his tenure..! If starmer wins the next election he will be able to use it too or will he have it repainted again to original colour Why is that relevant?
Ha not many posts above people are talking about Cornyn and the KGB. I was just saying if starmer wins the next election he gets to use it too. Is that incorrect?
Yes, that is correct, is that why they painted it? Just in case Starmer wins the next election?
That fookin Starmer wasting tsx payers money
Where did I blame starmer?
Why did you bring up Starmer?
Both Corbyn and the KGB have been discussed here, did you question them?
Neither Corbyn or the KGB are in with much of a chance to use the plane. Starmer is if he wins"Very good point, could he have used the plane if it had remained grey?? | |||
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"You have to admire how the tories now don’t even bother to hide how corrupt they are hahahaha - lest we forget - promising EVERYTHING and the KITCHEN sink - an itty bitty airplane would have been pocket-change to Comrade Corby and the Gang. https://www.ft.com/content/7364ee82-0c6e-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84
Why are you bringing Corbyn into it?
Exactly, this is purely a boris bashing thread! ,,,,,...Boris bashing thread ?????? ,,,,I thought it was part 3 of the threads ( airplane III) for the Johnson / Brexit fans to tell us all what a brilliant idea and how pretty the plane is
Why would you think someone who voted remain wouldn't like it? We're not all self loathing apologists you know. ,,,,,,,fair point , well made , so its the 3rd thread of Johnson / brexit / remainers telling us what a good idea and how pretty the plane is ,( but probably mainly Johnson and his brexit buddies ),my point being its not a thread to bash anyone but a thread for those extremely excited about a plane can tell us how extremely excited they are ,
These threads show that 98% of fab users know nothing of the aviation industry, and even less about military aviation. And that's probably for the best. ,,,,,,i would probably guess that 98% of the population ( probably 99% ) know nothing about aviation , so , if you do , please use this thread ( and the previous 2 ,,,and maybe more to follow ) to enjoy your thrill and excitement ( along with Johnson and his brexit buddies ) about a plane and if you consider it money well spent then fair enough ,,
Why are you bringing up Brexit? 900,000 quid is as much as you'd expect to pay for a paint job, a service and a modification program. Why do you find it soo hard to understand?
Give me one reason why it needed to be painted white with a Union Jack on the tail? "Because it represents our national interest abroad. Why does Macron, Merkel, potus, and any other leader of a successful country do the same? Do you think business abroad should be conducted from a military asset in camoflage? Would you prefer our national leader turned up in a Hercules for instance? Does it upset you that people are proud of our country? Do you wish we would shrivel up and die? | |||
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