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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak." He as just won an election with a whopping majority he is leader for the next five years,maybe more | |||
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".He as just won an election with a whopping majority he is leader for the next five years,maybe more" Shit. Must have missed that. Anyway, I'd love the Tories to go into the next election with him as leader. So I take heart in your "maybe more". Unless you are saying he will continue to screw things over so badly it won't be safe to hold an election to get rid of this useless shower. | |||
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"The Tory party is older than Parliament I think. One thing matters to them, their party survives. The moment it looks like Boris is out of public favour, the knives will come out. Will that happen? I don't know. Good chance there is - Starmer seems fully intent to let brexit happen, and let the Tories stew in a pan of COVID-19 backlash, austerity coming home to roost, and potentially fallout from brexit and further compound supply lines and chains if it's no deal. Right now the Tories can only be reactive to events outside their control - bar brexit. Not a good place to be politically." In the end come the GE everyone will have their chance to either vote for or against him. If he wins just means more people agree than disagree. oh and there is nothing starmer can do now about brexit as its already happened (end of Jan this year) so not his fault | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak.He as just won an election with a whopping majority he is leader for the next five years,maybe more" And, have you heard the term ‘a week is a long time in politics’ . Boris is far from bullet proof, personally I think he will resign before he finishes his 5 years | |||
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"The Tory party is older than Parliament I think. One thing matters to them, their party survives. The moment it looks like Boris is out of public favour, the knives will come out. Will that happen? I don't know. Good chance there is - Starmer seems fully intent to let brexit happen, and let the Tories stew in a pan of COVID-19 backlash, austerity coming home to roost, and potentially fallout from brexit and further compound supply lines and chains if it's no deal. Right now the Tories can only be reactive to events outside their control - bar brexit. Not a good place to be politically." The economy damage is and will continue to be so huge because of the virus that you probably won't be able to tell any economic damage that Brexit may produce because of the ongoing damage anyway. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak." Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward ." If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD DOES THAT MEAN ? | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward ." Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. | |||
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"Not only is he a world leading disaster in this he looks like he just doesn't want to be there" I agree, this wasn’t in his plan, he won’t do 5 years. I know he has had the virus but he looks absolutely fucked. | |||
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"Not only is he a world leading disaster in this he looks like he just doesn't want to be there I agree, this wasn’t in his plan, he won’t do 5 years. I know he has had the virus but he looks absolutely fucked. " I think he just wanted the job for the kudos. He hasn't got a public serving bone In his body. | |||
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"Well I disagree with all of you. Do you honestly think that Labour's offering at the time of the election would have done any better? With hindsight anyway can say how crap and how wrong the Prime Minister is. Name me one person who make the correction decisions right now? Nobody, because you don't know what's around the corner. Take all the advice you like but you still don't really know what will happen next. " Jacinda Ardern | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk." I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available | |||
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"Well I disagree with all of you. Do you honestly think that Labour's offering at the time of the election would have done any better? With hindsight anyway can say how crap and how wrong the Prime Minister is. Name me one person who make the correction decisions right now? Nobody, because you don't know what's around the corner. Take all the advice you like but you still don't really know what will happen next. " A couple of days ago I posted a timeline of daily fuck ups going back to December. The thread appears to have been deleted but trust me, it was fucking enormous and every single item on it was unrefutable truth. | |||
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"Well I disagree with all of you. Do you honestly think that Labour's offering at the time of the election would have done any better? With hindsight anyway can say how crap and how wrong the Prime Minister is. Name me one person who make the correction decisions right now? Nobody, because you don't know what's around the corner. Take all the advice you like but you still don't really know what will happen next. Jacinda Ardern " She's a good leader but some context needs to be put in there. A population of less than 5 million, a lower median age than the UK, and a population density of 46 people per square mile. The UK is 281 people per square mile. | |||
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"Well I disagree with all of you. Do you honestly think that Labour's offering at the time of the election would have done any better? With hindsight anyway can say how crap and how wrong the Prime Minister is. Name me one person who make the correction decisions right now? Nobody, because you don't know what's around the corner. Take all the advice you like but you still don't really know what will happen next. " The thread is about the next Tory leader.Its nothing to do with labour. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available" Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. | |||
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"Back to the original question. If his MPs turn on him I see very few alternatives as he sacked anyone with any suitable experience before the election. I could seriously see a ballot paper with Jeremy Hunt, Ian Duncan Smith, Jacob Rees Mogg and Liz Truss on it. It would be like offering a choice of poison that kills you in 2, 4, 6 or 8 days. " It's going to be gove if anyone I reckon. Bit too early for Sunak. | |||
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" It's going to be gove if anyone I reckon. Bit too early for Sunak." Forgot about him. Thanks, I'm going to have nightmares now. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe." Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak." piers Morgan | |||
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"Well I disagree with all of you. Do you honestly think that Labour's offering at the time of the election would have done any better? With hindsight anyway can say how crap and how wrong the Prime Minister is. Name me one person who make the correction decisions right now? Nobody, because you don't know what's around the corner. Take all the advice you like but you still don't really know what will happen next. The thread is about the next Tory leader.Its nothing to do with labour." It turned into a Boris bashing thread, so I thought I'd offer my support to him. | |||
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"It turned into a Boris bashing thread" Actually it started that way - the whole thread is based on the fact that Boris has done this so badly he is now toxic, so where do the Tories go next? | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news" Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google?" Of course an excellent place for STORIES | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES" I'm not sure where else you source your information from. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from." Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from. Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. " Well I'm not sure why a newspaper would make up a lie about about a carer dying because of a lack of ppe? | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES" Why check google when chantelle from skegness on facebook has the answer. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from. Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. Well I'm not sure why a newspaper would make up a lie about about a carer dying because of a lack of ppe?" As I say people pick and choose their stories depending on if they like the source and the story fits their views. Newspapers have agendas too and as for them making things up they have form | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from. Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. Well I'm not sure why a newspaper would make up a lie about about a carer dying because of a lack of ppe? As I say people pick and choose their stories depending on if they like the source and the story fits their views. Newspapers have agendas too and as for them making things up they have form" They sure do.But I'm fairly sure the family of the carer wouldn't be too happy if turu did. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from. Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. Well I'm not sure why a newspaper would make up a lie about about a carer dying because of a lack of ppe? As I say people pick and choose their stories depending on if they like the source and the story fits their views. Newspapers have agendas too and as for them making things up they have form They sure do.But I'm fairly sure the family of the carer wouldn't be too happy if turu did." Many families have been upset by many things in papers. Just amazes me how people only believe stories that are from a source they agree with and the story is in line with their views. Anything else is dismissed even going as far as to insult anyone that mentions it | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from. Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. Well I'm not sure why a newspaper would make up a lie about about a carer dying because of a lack of ppe? As I say people pick and choose their stories depending on if they like the source and the story fits their views. Newspapers have agendas too and as for them making things up they have form They sure do.But I'm fairly sure the family of the carer wouldn't be too happy if turu did. Many families have been upset by many things in papers. Just amazes me how people only believe stories that are from a source they agree with and the story is in line with their views. Anything else is dismissed even going as far as to insult anyone that mentions it" Like I said if the story was untrue the nursing home and the family would both take legal action. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak. Why would anyone be thinking about this now ? He has just won an 80 seat majority and 57 % of the public think he is doing a good job in the present crisis. If you analyse deaths among NHS staff they are in line with ordinary members of the public so while PPHE may be in short supply no one has suffered because of it. If you adjust NHS staff deaths for those who are BAME you would expect them to be even higher than they current are . All deaths are tragic buy at least most members of the public recognise the pressure that the government are under . To quote one Doctor, he was more concerned about catching the virus on the way to work than in a hospital ward . Drs and nurses have died through lack of ppe. Thats a fact. As for the 57% majority unless you are completely and utterly deluded he has been an absolute disaster and I wouldnt be surprised once the penny drops and he realises he actually has to do some work..he will walk. I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Loads of stories online..1st one is a care worker who had no ppe. 2nd a nurse who had previously complained about lack of ppe. Odd I thought a nurse or care worker forced to attend without any PPE would have made international news Well maybe just type nurse/care worker ppe into Google? Of course an excellent place for STORIES I'm not sure where else you source your information from. Plenty of places for stories. See that all the time on here people sharing stories and links that agree with them but completely dismiss any that disagree with their view often blaming people's intelligence. Well I'm not sure why a newspaper would make up a lie about about a carer dying because of a lack of ppe? As I say people pick and choose their stories depending on if they like the source and the story fits their views. Newspapers have agendas too and as for them making things up they have form They sure do.But I'm fairly sure the family of the carer wouldn't be too happy if turu did. Many families have been upset by many things in papers. Just amazes me how people only believe stories that are from a source they agree with and the story is in line with their views. Anything else is dismissed even going as far as to insult anyone that mentions it Like I said if the story was untrue the nursing home and the family would both take legal action." That's true for many stories sadly many are untrue but they speak to the converted | |||
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"The Tory party is older than Parliament I think. One thing matters to them, their party survives. The moment it looks like Boris is out of public favour, the knives will come out. Will that happen? I don't know. Good chance there is - Starmer seems fully intent to let brexit happen, and let the Tories stew in a pan of COVID-19 backlash, austerity coming home to roost, and potentially fallout from brexit and further compound supply lines and chains if it's no deal. Right now the Tories can only be reactive to events outside their control - bar brexit. Not a good place to be politically. In the end come the GE everyone will have their chance to either vote for or against him. If he wins just means more people agree than disagree. oh and there is nothing starmer can do now about brexit as its already happened (end of Jan this year) so not his fault" Well there's a big group saying the LOTO should table a motion fur a brexit extension. But it seems Starmer is intent to let the Tories stew in their own shit over it. It'll be painful if it goes wrong, but the press can't cast him as the villan for tabling an emotion that way. | |||
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" I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available" Well how about this (from The Guardian about 40 miunutes ago) : "More than one in three nurses and healthcare assistants are caring for Covid-19 patients without adequate personal protective equipment (PPE), a poll suggests. The UK-wide survey of more than 5,000 nursing staff for the Royal College of Nursing found 34% were working without adequate PPE, including gowns that have been promised by the government. Almost a quarter (23%) of respondents who need gowns said there were not enough for them to use, with a further 34% concerned about the supply for their next shift. Some 58% of nursing staff across both the NHS and social care said they had raised concerns about PPE, with 27% saying these concerns had not been addressed. For those who did not raise concerns, many said they thought it would make no difference to the action taken in their workplace while others were worried it would have a negative impact on their career. Almost one in five (19%) staff working in high-risk environments said there were not enough respirator masks for them to use, with a further 35% concerned about the supply for their next shift. More than four in 10 (44%) are being forced to reuse single use equipment and 32% had not been adequately fit-tested for respirator masks. Dame Donna Kinnair, chief executive of the RCN, said: We continue to hear that our members are still not adequately protected. This is particularly concerning especially if the country faces the threat of a second wave. We have repeatedly raised the issue with UK governments and have heard assurances that PPE is being delivered. But this survey - and the direct contact I have with members - shows that is not the experience on the ground in hospitals as well as in care homes." Obviously people who don't want to take their head out of the sand won't trust such 'dodgy sources' as the Guardian and a Royal College... | |||
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"The Tory party is older than Parliament I think. One thing matters to them, their party survives. The moment it looks like Boris is out of public favour, the knives will come out. Will that happen? I don't know. Good chance there is - Starmer seems fully intent to let brexit happen, and let the Tories stew in a pan of COVID-19 backlash, austerity coming home to roost, and potentially fallout from brexit and further compound supply lines and chains if it's no deal. Right now the Tories can only be reactive to events outside their control - bar brexit. Not a good place to be politically. In the end come the GE everyone will have their chance to either vote for or against him. If he wins just means more people agree than disagree. oh and there is nothing starmer can do now about brexit as its already happened (end of Jan this year) so not his fault Well there's a big group saying the LOTO should table a motion fur a brexit extension. But it seems Starmer is intent to let the Tories stew in their own shit over it. It'll be painful if it goes wrong, but the press can't cast him as the villan for tabling an emotion that way." A brexit extension is not possible as its already concluded in other words we have brexited if that's a word. What's happening now is negotiations for a new relationship. Uk and / or EU has until either June or July to request an extension | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak.He as just won an election with a whopping majority he is leader for the next five years,maybe more" He won the election to get Brexit done, not kill 34k people due to incompetence. | |||
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"Jacinda Ardern She's a good leader but some context needs to be put in there. A population of less than 5 million, a lower median age than the UK, and a population density of 46 people per square mile. The UK is 281 people per square mile." None of that is relevant. For two reasons: 1. Our Government had access to the same information hers did, at the same time. She acted decisively. Boris prevaricated. 2. Comparing death rates/death tolls between countries means nothing. It's an excuse used to ascribe, minimise or dodge blame. The only thing that counts is the absolute number of deaths in any given country - and whether any of them could have been prevented. Clearly, on preventable deaths, our Government has a case to answer - and they should be made to. China, the USA, Brazil, etc all have cases to answer too - but they're not our problem. | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak.He as just won an election with a whopping majority he is leader for the next five years,maybe more He won the election to get Brexit done, not kill 34k people due to incompetence. " Boris should sue you for such a vindictive nasty comment.If Jesus Christ was PM millions would still have died | |||
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"If Jesus Christ was PM millions would still have died" So you are saying that Jacinda Ardern is better than JC? Watch out for that lightning bolt! | |||
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"Back to the original question. If his MPs turn on him I see very few alternatives as he sacked anyone with any suitable experience before the election. I could seriously see a ballot paper with Jeremy Hunt, Ian Duncan Smith, Jacob Rees Mogg and Liz Truss on it. It would be like offering a choice of poison that kills you in 2, 4, 6 or 8 days. " sacked before the election really? didnt some decide not to run after he got voted in as leader.all of mays people basically.i wonder why they didnt stand? mabey they knew they would lose there seqts if they did so stepped aside to make sure the seat still stayed tory.ii didnt think a p.m could just sack an m.p | |||
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" I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Don't believe what's written in the papers Well how about this (from The Guardian about 40 miunutes ago) : More than one in three nurses and healthcare assistants are caring for Covid-19 patients without adequate personal protective equipment (PPE), a poll suggests. The UK-wide survey of more than 5,000 nursing staff for the Royal College of Nursing found 34% were working without adequate PPE, including gowns that have been promised by the government. Almost a quarter (23%) of respondents who need gowns said there were not enough for them to use, with a further 34% concerned about the supply for their next shift. Some 58% of nursing staff across both the NHS and social care said they had raised concerns about PPE, with 27% saying these concerns had not been addressed. For those who did not raise concerns, many said they thought it would make no difference to the action taken in their workplace while others were worried it would have a negative impact on their career. Almost one in five (19%) staff working in high-risk environments said there were not enough respirator masks for them to use, with a further 35% concerned about the supply for their next shift. More than four in 10 (44%) are being forced to reuse single use equipment and 32% had not been adequately fit-tested for respirator masks. Dame Donna Kinnair, chief executive of the RCN, said: We continue to hear that our members are still not adequately protected. This is particularly concerning especially if the country faces the threat of a second wave. We have repeatedly raised the issue with UK governments and have heard assurances that PPE is being delivered. But this survey - and the direct contact I have with members - shows that is not the experience on the ground in hospitals as well as in care homes. Obviously people who don't want to take their head out of the sand won't trust such 'dodgy sources' as the Guardian and a Royal College..." | |||
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"Really surprised not to be able to find anyone giving odds on this yet. Or even whether there will be leadership election before the next GE. Surely Boris is now a huge liability? Anyway, if I could find anywhere to put it, I'd put my money on Sunak." . ("Oddchecker") Sunak 7/2 ,, Gove 8/1 ,, Raab 12/1,, Hunt 16/1 ,, Patel 20/1 ,, Javid 25/1 | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's " Don’t be daft, he won’t even do until 2024, he will cash in , he doesn’t get enough money whilst he is the PM | |||
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"Are you really that dumb? Compare Britain's death toll to other parts of the world. We live on an island. It should have been easy to contain. F*ck pig Johnson has blood on his hands." Idiot | |||
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"Are you really that dumb? Compare Britain's death toll to other parts of the world. We live on an island. It should have been easy to contain. F*ck pig Johnson has blood on his hands.Idiot" Why do you get so upset when someone insults Bojo the clown  | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's " He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs." Not sure on you math, but I believe there are currently 6 Scottish Conservative MPS. And 59 Scottish seats in total. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs." Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet." No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?  | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't? "Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon. "How does parliament affect you,it pays billions to Scotland and you run everything yourself. Oh it UK government's fault if SNP fucks up, thats fair. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon.
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon. How does parliament affect you,it pays billions to Scotland and you run everything yourself. Oh it UK government's fault if SNP fucks up, thats fair. "Nothing to do with my point. I am telling you that Scotland has never voted Tory but has had to put up with all these donkeys with a blue rosette for all these years. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon.
They've always had Conservative MPs so your not exactly correct there."Nope no true, not always. The tories were completely wiped out at some point. However my point is that the tories have never had a majority of MPs in Scotland | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon. How does parliament affect you,it pays billions to Scotland and you run everything yourself. Oh it UK government's fault if SNP fucks up, thats fair.
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon. How does parliament affect you,it pays billions to Scotland and you run everything yourself. Oh it UK government's fault if SNP fucks up, thats fair.
Nothing to do with my point. I am telling you that Scotland has never voted Tory but has had to put up with all these donkeys with a blue rosette for all these years. They might not have voted tory but voted to stay in the union, same thing "Just in case you haven’t realised there was no mention of the Conservative party on their ballot paper. So feel free to distort the truth but you’re still talking bullshit. The bottom line is that Scotland has never voted for a majority of Conservative MPs. Like it it not, that’s the way it is. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon. "Is it not a UK parliament of which Scotland is a part? I expect there are other areas of the UK affected in the same way and some areas that always vote Tory but sometimes live under a Labour government | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon.
Is it not a UK parliament of which Scotland is a part? I expect there are other areas of the UK affected in the same way and some areas that always vote Tory but sometimes live under a Labour government"You’re right there but this partly explains why Scotland has got itchy feet especially snow we have a gvt with a nationalistic and Anglocentric populist approach that a lot of Scots can’t stand. | |||
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"The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Well, we can't know that for sure. What is certain is that the Tories (or Labour) will delay IndyRef2 for as long as they can - especially if they fear the result will go the other way. Neither of them fear the loss of the Scottish people - Labour already lost them and the Tories only give a fuck about the landmass and the waters surrounding it. Next Tory leader? Who knows? Which of them can pretend to be most socialist? Post-Covid, that's their best bet.No sure what Scotland got to complain about, at least you have a parliament and frist minister. England doesn't?
Is that a joke? Scotland has never voted Tory and has had to put up with the clowns that were Thatcher, Cameron, May and not the world beating buffoon.
Is it not a UK parliament of which Scotland is a part? I expect there are other areas of the UK affected in the same way and some areas that always vote Tory but sometimes live under a Labour government
You’re right there but this partly explains why Scotland has got itchy feet especially snow we have a gvt with a nationalistic and Anglocentric populist approach that a lot of Scots can’t stand. "Indeed though they did have the opportunity to leave and its no secret that UK governments change and come in many forms | |||
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" I have heard like most that PPE has been in short supply and dangerously low but have not seen any reports of running out completely. I would expect to have seen reports if nurses have had to care for patients without PPE available Nothing to do with not taking our heads out of the sand. It's having the gumption not to be taken in Don't believe what's written in the papers Well how about this (from The Guardian about 40 miunutes ago) : More than one in three nurses and healthcare assistants are caring for Covid-19 patients without adequate personal protective equipment (PPE), a poll suggests. The UK-wide survey of more than 5,000 nursing staff for the Royal College of Nursing found 34% were working without adequate PPE, including gowns that have been promised by the government. Almost a quarter (23%) of respondents who need gowns said there were not enough for them to use, with a further 34% concerned about the supply for their next shift. Some 58% of nursing staff across both the NHS and social care said they had raised concerns about PPE, with 27% saying these concerns had not been addressed. For those who did not raise concerns, many said they thought it would make no difference to the action taken in their workplace while others were worried it would have a negative impact on their career. Almost one in five (19%) staff working in high-risk environments said there were not enough respirator masks for them to use, with a further 35% concerned about the supply for their next shift. More than four in 10 (44%) are being forced to reuse single use equipment and 32% had not been adequately fit-tested for respirator masks. Dame Donna Kinnair, chief executive of the RCN, said: We continue to hear that our members are still not adequately protected. This is particularly concerning especially if the country faces the threat of a second wave. We have repeatedly raised the issue with UK governments and have heard assurances that PPE is being delivered. But this survey - and the direct contact I have with members - shows that is not the experience on the ground in hospitals as well as in care homes. Obviously people who don't want to take their head out of the sand won't trust such 'dodgy sources' as the Guardian and a Royal College..." It's got nothing to do with taking our heads out of the sand it's having the gumption not to be taken in by the media. A journalist who is paid to write such articles and twist fact from fiction. | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs." Will never happen they had the chance to vote but chose to remain | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Will never happen they had the chance to vote but chose to remain " I think Scottish independence is inevitable in the long run. It’s more when than if. | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Will never happen they had the chance to vote but chose to remain " Things have drastically changed, there will be another referendum sooner than you think | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Will never happen they had the chance to vote but chose to remain Things have drastically changed, there will be another referendum sooner than you think " not if boris lasts the full term.he already told her they not getting a vote even if he does jump ship the torys still wont give em a vote and now starmer leader of labour i cant see him allowing one either if labour get in nxt time | |||
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"Unlikely considering a big landslide at the last election. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris is in for the rest of 2020's He took seats in constituencies that the Tories never had before by promising to get credit done to people who had never voted Tory. Once brexit disaster unfolds, covid-19 fallout is known and russian report released, I think even those gullible morons who voted him in will see they were conned. The only way Boris Johnson will still be prime minister after the next election is if Scotland gets independence. Suddenly 57 less opposition MPs. Will never happen they had the chance to vote but chose to remain Things have drastically changed, there will be another referendum sooner than you think not if boris lasts the full term.he already told her they not getting a vote even if he does jump ship the torys still wont give em a vote and now starmer leader of labour i cant see him allowing one either if labour get in nxt time" Boris won’t last, | |||
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"The bottom line is that Scotland has never voted for a majority of Conservative MPs. Like it it not, that’s the way it is." Unfortunately, that isn't true. It happened in 1931 and again in 1955. However, we've never made the mistake a 3rd time. Despite that, and our rejecting them at every general election since; we regularly wind up with them governing us. That's why a number of us are keen to leave the Union; and that number has increased under Boris' leadership and enthusiasm for Brexit. | |||
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"Will never happen they had the chance to vote but chose to remain " Things have changed a lot since then. Never say never. | |||
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"The bottom line is that Scotland has never voted for a majority of Conservative MPs. Like it it not, that’s the way it is. Unfortunately, that isn't true. It happened in 1931 and again in 1955. However, we've never made the mistake a 3rd time. Despite that, and our rejecting them at every general election since; we regularly wind up with them governing us. That's why a number of us are keen to leave the Union; and that number has increased under Boris' leadership and enthusiasm for Brexit." Don't blame you | |||
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