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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread? "Might be... | |||
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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread? "not a tory voter so that theory is out the window  its a simple question | |||
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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread?
not a tory voter so that theory is out the window its a simple question"I think I answered it quite well actually. The tory government are an absolute disgrace over their handling of this. | |||
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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread?
not a tory voter so that theory is out the window its a simple question
I think I answered it quite well actually. The tory government are an absolute disgrace over their handling of this. "im not going to get in to the hate l or r politics game the question is they would have the same advisors giving the same advice (i presume) so what would have been so different by labour iv not bashed any single person/party ?? | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining "Without actually being able to name any numbers at all  | |||
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" From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands" Not forgetting the Coronavirus as well. | |||
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"I think theyd have made sure care workers and nurses had ppe for a start. I do reckon a Labour government would have done a lot better than this shower of absolute shite actually."  | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " Labour won by not being in power ATM maybe? | |||
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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread?
not a tory voter so that theory is out the window its a simple question
I think I answered it quite well actually. The tory government are an absolute disgrace over their handling of this.
im not going to get in to the hate l or r politics game the question is they would have the same advisors giving the same advice (i presume) so what would have been so different by labour iv not bashed any single person/party ??
"So how do you think this was going to go? Personally I think a Labour government would have made better decisions for the people. However, it still would have been tough. There's been 10 years of neglect in the NHS, and as has been shown our general preparedness was poor (out of date, low stocks of PPE). These things would have been difficult for whoever was in charge. The main difference being, this lot can't really blame anyone else for that. | |||
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"I think theyd have made sure care workers and nurses had ppe for a start. I do reckon a Labour government would have done a lot better than this shower of absolute shite actually." the problem with ppe was most came from overseas so labour would of had the same problem to a degree with countries saying nope were not selling as we are looking after ourselves ?? yes we may have not sold some of the ppe we had stored here too tho that was a massive mistake i think one lesson to come from this is we dont make enough of our own essentials at home .. that i can see changing | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " Totally agree ... but remember it would of been corbyn .. so there would of been no army to assist and the OB would of had their hands totally tied ... | |||
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"As he would only been in office since DEc last year I suspect it would have been much the same. You can only deal with the situation as you find it. The PPE is a world wide problem so nothing more he could do. Wishing you had more does not solve the problem. I notice even macaroni has admitted this. I'm not sure he would have done as well with the ventilator problem." Boris could've allowed UK businesses to manufacture the PPE for starters instead of trying to get it on the cheap from Turkey, while allowing people to work on the frontline unprotected. So it would've been far less of a problem if he'd taken up some of the numerous offers made to him by UK companies. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? Totally agree ... but remember it would of been corbyn .. so there would of been no army to assist and the OB would of had their hands totally tied ... " Not strictly true the Russian army would have been on hand if he was in charge  | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " They would have us all shot if we left home. | |||
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"And corbyn never had blood on his he was with anybody against england prick" En Anglais s'il vous plait?  | |||
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"And corbyn never had blood on his he was with anybody against england prick En Anglais s'il vous plait? "After roast beef dinner on a Sunday? You're asking for too much. | |||
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"I don't think we would see Corbyn at all because he is over 70 and would of had to self isolate in No.11. " He is actually out in his community, doing volunteer work. As he has done most of his political career. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " I agree with you. No one has called this right from China to the UK or the USA. | |||
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"So, seeing as we're all discussing a hypothetical scenario to deflect from what a shower of shite this government has been in its handling of a crisis my question to everyone here is "Do you think Dumbledore from Harry Potter would done a better job if he'd have won the election?"" and thats my point no matter who was in no matter what party no matter what person the would have followed the advisors .... so what if when all this is over it turns out the advisors the so called experts were wrong ie the science and medical experts ?? | |||
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"I don't think we would see Corbyn at all because he is over 70 and would of had to self isolate in No.11. He is actually out in his community, doing volunteer work. As he has done most of his political career. " So he is not following the advise for the over 70's.! | |||
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"So, seeing as we're all discussing a hypothetical scenario to deflect from what a shower of shite this government has been in its handling of a crisis my question to everyone here is "Do you think Dumbledore from Harry Potter would done a better job if he'd have won the election?" and thats my point no matter who was in no matter what party no matter what person the would have followed the advisors .... so what if when all this is over it turns out the advisors the so called experts were wrong ie the science and medical experts ??" Then heads will roll no doubt, figuratively speaking of course.. Careers will be finished, shoulders sloped and fingers pointed in the scramble by some to avoid responsibility.. The old adage of the buck stops here springs to mind but shit does tend to roll downhill.. | |||
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"So, seeing as we're all discussing a hypothetical scenario to deflect from what a shower of shite this government has been in its handling of a crisis my question to everyone here is "Do you think Dumbledore from Harry Potter would done a better job if he'd have won the election?" and thats my point no matter who was in no matter what party no matter what person the would have followed the advisors .... so what if when all this is over it turns out the advisors the so called experts were wrong ie the science and medical experts ??" Wrong in what way? | |||
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" The old adage of the buck stops here springs to mind but shit does tend to roll downhill.. " I thought it hit the fan? Cheese ... you can roll that down a hill and chase it. | |||
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"Labour , conservative , lib/dems , to be honest whoever was in power would have shit themselves when they realised the enormity of this pandemic . We have never witnessed anything like this in our lifetime . Any british government would have had to deal with the idiots bitching about human rights and try and accomodate the masses . I desperately want to friends and family again but I won't until I feel it's safe to do so , my choice . I'd rather stay 6 feet apart than 6 feet under." Saying that though I don't think ten years of Labour government would have left the NHS in the bare bones situation that it is now. | |||
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" The old adage of the buck stops here springs to mind but shit does tend to roll downhill.. I thought it hit the fan? Cheese ... you can roll that down a hill and chase it." It's why the rich lived up the hill.. Cheesecon toast is preferable to..well you know.. | |||
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"We be in a right pickle " As soon as you mention Cheese .... | |||
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"The list of how and when Boris fucked this up is long From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands" By the way you go on about Boris I reckon you got a secret crush on him, a little bojo romo | |||
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"The list of how and when Boris fucked this up is long From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands By the way you go on about Boris I reckon you got a secret crush on him, a little bojo romo "Its constant isn't it  | |||
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"I don't think we would see Corbyn at all because he is over 70 and would of had to self isolate in No.11. He is actually out in his community, doing volunteer work. As he has done most of his political career. " | |||
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"I don't think we would see Corbyn at all because he is over 70 and would of had to self isolate in No.11. He is actually out in his community, doing volunteer work. As he has done most of his political career. "Is he allowed to go to Northern Ireland at this time! | |||
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"The list of how and when Boris fucked this up is long From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands By the way you go on about Boris I reckon you got a secret crush on him, a little bojo romo
Its constant isn't it "
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"The list of how and when Boris fucked this up is long From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands By the way you go on about Boris I reckon you got a secret crush on him, a little bojo romo
Its constant isn't it
It's like he can't help himself, he wants a bit of Boris all the time. I think its sweet " | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " I agree have said this all along this is not a political matter.I do however believe that Boris is a better leader than Corbyn as he was very indecisive | |||
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"I do however believe that Boris is a better leader than Corbyn as he was very indecisive" .. which makes him a more decisive leader, certainly. If (as in this case) almost every decision is bad - to the extent of almost winning a Darwin award - it does emphatically not make him a better leader. | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all ". As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK" | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK""She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol"Nope, she's Priti Patel. | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.". Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper "Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis? | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?". If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying ) | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?. If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying ) "What about Diane Abbott confirming to Andrew Marr that Corbyn's Labour Party support Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Organisations | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?. If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying )
What about Diane Abbott confirming to Andrew Marr that Corbyn's Labour Party support Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Organisations
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?. If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying )
What about Diane Abbott confirming to Andrew Marr that Corbyn's Labour Party support Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Organisations
. Glad you didn't mention the bullying"Your welcome, you did say not to mention it
Clearly you don't want to acknowledge labours support of terrorism
I did however forget to say when Dianne Abbott threw Jeremy Corbyn under the bus for his links to terrorism.
But shhhh dont mention it lol
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?. If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying )
What about Diane Abbott confirming to Andrew Marr that Corbyn's Labour Party support Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Organisations
. Glad you didn't mention the bullying
Your welcome, you did say not to mention it
Clearly you don't want to acknowledge labours support of terrorism
I did however forget to say when Dianne Abbott threw Jeremy Corbyn under the bus for his links to terrorism.
But shhhh dont mention it lol
". Was that the bus with £350 million to the NHS written on the side ? I wonder how much PPE that could buy for our NHS staff ? | |||
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?. If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying )
What about Diane Abbott confirming to Andrew Marr that Corbyn's Labour Party support Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Organisations
. Glad you didn't mention the bullying
Your welcome, you did say not to mention it
Clearly you don't want to acknowledge labours support of terrorism
I did however forget to say when Dianne Abbott threw Jeremy Corbyn under the bus for his links to terrorism.
But shhhh dont mention it lol
. Was that the bus with £350 million to the NHS written on the side ? I wonder how much PPE that could buy for our NHS staff ? "Oh my friend you are a hoot
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"As someone who has never voted Tory (despite living in Kent)and usually voted Labour, i do not think Jezza would have done any better. There would probably have been lots of committee meetings first, then the need for Momementum amd Union approval and then it would have had to go to Conference. Still Diane Abbott giving the daily figures at the press briefing could have been entertaining
Without actually being able to name any numbers at all . As opposed to Priti Patel who informed us at one of the evening press conferences that " as of 9am this morning there have been three hundred thousand thirty four nine hundred seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"She is the Tory Dianne Abbott lol
Nope, she's Priti Patel.. Dianne Abbott was involved in an in depth interview with a seasoned journalist , under pressure ,leading up to a General Election , and got the figures completely wrong ,,,,Pritti Patel was reading figures from a piece of paper
Is that the same Diane Abbott caught drink on the tube, and recently reprimand for sharing a platform with notorious figures from Labour's anti-Semitism crisis?. If we talking of unauthorized meetings I am afraid its back over to Mrs Patel ( and shhh don't mention bullying )
What about Diane Abbott confirming to Andrew Marr that Corbyn's Labour Party support Islamic Jihadist Terrorist Organisations
. Glad you didn't mention the bullying
Your welcome, you did say not to mention it
Clearly you don't want to acknowledge labours support of terrorism
I did however forget to say when Dianne Abbott threw Jeremy Corbyn under the bus for his links to terrorism.
But shhhh dont mention it lol
. Was that the bus with £350 million to the NHS written on the side ? I wonder how much PPE that could buy for our NHS staff ?
Oh my friend you are a hoot
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"The list of how and when Boris fucked this up is long From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands By the way you go on about Boris I reckon you got a secret crush on him, a little bojo romo
Its constant isn't it
It's like he can't help himself, he wants a bit of Boris all the time. I think its sweet "I'm glad you can laugh The rest of the world have been laughing too since you elected laughable Boris It's true you get the politicians you deserve | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " I agree no govt would have got it 100% right, that's a given however, I do think moves could and should have been made a lot quicker and more effectively. | |||
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"Labour , conservative , lib/dems , to be honest whoever was in power would have shit themselves when they realised the enormity of this pandemic . We have never witnessed anything like this in our lifetime . Any british government would have had to deal with the idiots bitching about human rights and try and accomodate the masses . I desperately want to friends and family again but I won't until I feel it's safe to do so , my choice . I'd rather stay 6 feet apart than 6 feet under. Saying that though I don't think ten years of Labour government would have left the NHS in the bare bones situation that it is now. " why do u say that? labour ubder blair left the nhs with massive debts to private investors that there still paying back.be they tory or labour some secyions of society will be fucked over one way or another.and before the ususl suspects start screaming blair wasnt real labour i didnt see corbyn mc donnell about or the rest of them leave the party. | |||
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"The list of how and when Boris fucked this up is long From the very start to this latest fiasco he is a bumbling pretending fuckwit with blood on his hands By the way you go on about Boris I reckon you got a secret crush on him, a little bojo romo
Its constant isn't it
It's like he can't help himself, he wants a bit of Boris all the time. I think its sweet
I'm glad you can laugh
The rest of the world have been laughing too since you elected laughable Boris
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " The UK at no 1 in death rates how could ANY government have done worse. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? The UK at no 1 in death rates how could ANY government have done worse. "
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country "Exactly | |||
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country "Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ? | |||
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country
Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ?"Or the free for all in the supermarkets, and people not following social distancing. We all have a responsibility | |||
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country
Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ?
Or the free for all in the supermarkets, and people not following social distancing. We all have a responsibility "You are absolutely right. We all have a responsibility. And a sphere of influence. As individuals we can do very little - a "super-spreader" may infect 11 people, and they would start a chain of infection that, in a few weeks, could kill hundreds. As a prime minister you can do far more damage by spouting contradictory nonsense, setting a bad example about social contact, skipping meetings while sorting out your divorce etc etc, and ours tops the world! Congrats Tory voters. | |||
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country
Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ?
Or the free for all in the supermarkets, and people not following social distancing. We all have a responsibility
You are absolutely right. We all have a responsibility. And a sphere of influence.
As individuals we can do very little - a "super-spreader" may infect 11 people, and they would start a chain of infection that, in a few weeks, could kill hundreds.
As a prime minister you can do far more damage by spouting contradictory nonsense, setting a bad example about social contact, skipping meetings while sorting out your divorce etc etc, and ours tops the world!
Congrats Tory voters."And it's not like there wasn't enough clues as to who and what Boris was He just got in on an empty slogan with no substance | |||
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country
Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ?
Or the free for all in the supermarkets, and people not following social distancing. We all have a responsibility
You are absolutely right. We all have a responsibility. And a sphere of influence.
As individuals we can do very little - a "super-spreader" may infect 11 people, and they would start a chain of infection that, in a few weeks, could kill hundreds.
As a prime minister you can do far more damage by spouting contradictory nonsense, setting a bad example about social contact, skipping meetings while sorting out your divorce etc etc, and ours tops the world!
Congrats Tory voters.
And it's not like there wasn't enough clues as to who and what Boris was
He just got in on an empty slogan with no substance
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country
Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ?
Or the free for all in the supermarkets, and people not following social distancing. We all have a responsibility "With good planning and leadership it could all have been so different, no one should be happy we've the highest death rate in europe, our government FAILED it's people. | |||
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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread?
not a tory voter so that theory is out the window its a simple question
I think I answered it quite well actually. The tory government are an absolute disgrace over their handling of this. "They were voted in by the masses to 'get Brexit done', not for his policies or leadership qualities. | |||
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"Is this a "let's try and get Boris off the hook for his shit show by seeing if enough Tory Fabbers can come on here and post why the country would be in a worse state if Corbyn & co were in charge" kinda thread?
not a tory voter so that theory is out the window its a simple question
I think I answered it quite well actually. The tory government are an absolute disgrace over their handling of this.
They were voted in by the masses to 'get Brexit done', not for his policies or leadership qualities. "He will handle Brexit as well as he has handled covid | |||
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"Donald is doing really well in America" Yes he is. Stock market tanking Pandemic out of control Record unemployment Corruption and graft at record levels No Mexican wall Crime out of control. I'd say that's a pretty good record compared with Obama. | |||
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"Donald is doing really well in America" And Jair. Surprisingly, you don't hear a lot about Belgium. You'd have thought the apologists would be all over that. If I was in number 10 press office I'd be bringing that up all the time. Mind you ,that could get tricky when we do worse than them (in terms of deaths / capita). But nothing that Boris can't bluster through on a good day eh? To hear him saying (in an attempt to clarify) "it all comes down to common sense" was the best TV comedy I have seen since Fawlty Towers. This from the guy who went around shaking hands in hospitals in late March and showing off about it on TV. Still it's quite difficult to win a vote of no confidence against a majority of 80, and now he is (presumably) immune from virus as well as criticism I can't see how things can improve. | |||
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"Donald is doing really well in America And Jair. Surprisingly, you don't hear a lot about Belgium. You'd have thought the apologists would be all over that. If I was in number 10 press office I'd be bringing that up all the time. Mind you ,that could get tricky when we do worse than them (in terms of deaths / capita). But nothing that Boris can't bluster through on a good day eh? To hear him saying (in an attempt to clarify) "it all comes down to common sense" was the best TV comedy I have seen since Fawlty Towers. This from the guy who went around shaking hands in hospitals in late March and showing off about it on TV. Still it's quite difficult to win a vote of no confidence against a majority of 80, and now he is (presumably) immune from virus as well as criticism I can't see how things can improve." Things are just going to get worse and worse with.boris He was late to lockdown,too quick coming out of it,and when this virus keeps recurring as it will he will keep being late to act then act too quickly meanwhile the deaths will be piling up | |||
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""Donald is doing really well in America" DT is that you?" LOL | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " This is the oddest counter-factual. The starting point would be the same because the country was unprepared for a global pandemic despite the recommendations provided in 2016. So PPE shortages would have initially been a problem. Scientific advisors provide advice. Government makes decisions. We actually have no idea what the advice was. We just know when certain decisions were made. Would it have been taken more seriously by a Labour government? Attendance of the Prime Minister at Cobra before the sixth meeting? Not taking a holiday? Would they have joined the EU purchasing schemes for PPE and ventilators? Would they have chosen to follow the WHO guidelines available since 2009? An earlier emphasis on testing? Considering social care and care homes as important as the NHS? Would an overbearing advisor who considers himself a statistical genius be sat on SAGE meetings? Would the Prime Minister be shaking people's hands in hospitals and caught the virus? Would the Labour party have purged all of its competent and experienced MPs and fill its cabinet with people who have been removed for incompetence? Would the Labour party have started a war with the Civil Service creating a state of uncertainty and hostility just before this all kicked off? I don't think that any government, other than Taiwan, South Korea, Germany and New Zealand would have come close to getting things 100% right. I'm sure that the Labour party would have created all manner of unforced errors itself but where we are is a result of a number of discretionary decisions outside scientific advice which can be accepted or ignored. | |||
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"How people blame politicians. Just perhaps, people breaking the lockdown rules will have pushed up deaths in this country
Perhaps our glorious leader in a hospital full of covid patients shaking hands didn't help ?
Or the free for all in the supermarkets, and people not following social distancing. We all have a responsibility
You are absolutely right. We all have a responsibility. And a sphere of influence.
As individuals we can do very little - a "super-spreader" may infect 11 people, and they would start a chain of infection that, in a few weeks, could kill hundreds.
As a prime minister you can do far more damage by spouting contradictory nonsense, setting a bad example about social contact, skipping meetings while sorting out your divorce etc etc, and ours tops the world!
Congrats Tory voters.
And it's not like there wasn't enough clues as to who and what Boris was
He just got in on an empty slogan with no substance"I believe that we've just got another empty slogan with no substance | |||
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"boris only got in because the voters thought the other bloke was even worse.lets face it most people vote for the personality and jezza didnt have one.u shouldnt expect anything less from a population that has been fed reality t.v and the cult of celebrity for the last 20yrs." Drivel. Peeps with small brains dont vote, celebrities have been around since Cleopatra get educated and look at policy not personality. | |||
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"boris only got in because the voters thought the other bloke was even worse.lets face it most people vote for the personality and jezza didnt have one.u shouldnt expect anything less from a population that has been fed reality t.v and the cult of celebrity for the last 20yrs. Drivel. Peeps with small brains dont vote, celebrities have been around since Cleopatra get educated and look at policy not personality." i dont vote so it dont apply to me.bt you honestly think there aint a large minority who vote for the personality lol and yea celvs been around years but over the last 20yrs lots of people seem to think celebs are important people whos opibions we should take notice off when in reality the majority are just fame whores who belive there own hype.and politics aint going down that root eh? blair seemed to like surroundibg himself. with famous faces plenty of celebs telling there fans to vote for corbyn last time and who can forget hugh grant lol everyone he supported lost there seat pmsl.reason i didnt mention the torys...well most famous faces who support them are doddering old fuckers who dont know what day of the week it is | |||
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"boris only got in because the voters thought the other bloke was even worse.lets face it most people vote for the personality and jezza didnt have one.u shouldnt expect anything less from a population that has been fed reality t.v and the cult of celebrity for the last 20yrs. Drivel. Peeps with small brains dont vote, celebrities have been around since Cleopatra get educated and look at policy not personality." The "get Brexit done" policy? Boris and trump both show that peeps with small brains do vote | |||
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"boris only got in because the voters thought the other bloke was even worse.lets face it most people vote for the personality and jezza didnt have one.u shouldnt expect anything less from a population that has been fed reality t.v and the cult of celebrity for the last 20yrs. Drivel. Peeps with small brains dont vote, celebrities have been around since Cleopatra get educated and look at policy not personality. The "get Brexit done" policy? Boris and trump both show that peeps with small brains do vote" Actually you make a good point. | |||
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"boris only got in because the voters thought the other bloke was even worse.lets face it most people vote for the personality and jezza didnt have one.u shouldnt expect anything less from a population that has been fed reality t.v and the cult of celebrity for the last 20yrs. Drivel. Peeps with small brains dont vote, celebrities have been around since Cleopatra get educated and look at policy not personality. i dont vote so it dont apply to me.bt you honestly think there aint a large minority who vote for the personality lol and yea celvs been around years but over the last 20yrs lots of people seem to think celebs are important people whos opibions we should take notice off when in reality the majority are just fame whores who belive there own hype.and politics aint going down that root eh? blair seemed to like surroundibg himself. with famous faces plenty of celebs telling there fans to vote for corbyn last time and who can forget hugh grant lol everyone he supported lost there seat pmsl.reason i didnt mention the torys...well most famous faces who support them are doddering old fuckers who dont know what day of the week it is" You seem to love the conservatives guess your a wealthy individual not wanting to pay a little more tax ? | |||
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"where do u get i love the torys lol i said the reason i didnt mention them is because any celebs that support them are dodering old fuckers who dont know what day of the week it is.think you need to educate yourself sir if you think stupid people dont vote good day to you "So you agree the torys are a shower of cun@s ? or is it more of but but but.. | |||
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"i think there all a shower of cunts the main reason i dont vote fir any of them.but im guessibg u follow one lot no matrer what" No I read the policys and vote accordingly your never going to find a party that is 100% in tune with your views. I think your blinkered view that the conservatives are on your side is a mistake. | |||
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"hahahaha did i say i think the torys are on my side??? id vore for them if thats what i thought.i dont think any are on my side no matter who gets in you will be fucked over by them at some point be they lib lab or the cons.i prefer to look out for my freinds and family and pay as little attention as possible to whatever shit shiw is running the country.pointless talking to you though if you gona try and keep calling me a tory lol.if i was made to vote it would be the mobster raving loony party for me.that way i still not really voting for anyone who may get in " Why not *waste* your vote on the green party, as an example. They're not going to get into power and all they really want is for people to pollute less. | |||
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"I think theyd have made sure care workers and nurses had ppe for a start. I do reckon a Labour government would have done a lot better than this shower of absolute shite actually." Where would they have got the ppe from? | |||
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"I think theyd have made sure care workers and nurses had ppe for a start. I do reckon a Labour government would have done a lot better than this shower of absolute shite actually. Where would they have got the ppe from?" Why pretend to be dim ? | |||
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"I think theyd have made sure care workers and nurses had ppe for a start. I do reckon a Labour government would have done a lot better than this shower of absolute shite actually. Where would they have got the ppe from? Why pretend to be dim ?" Are questions banned? | |||
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"I think theyd have made sure care workers and nurses had ppe for a start. I do reckon a Labour government would have done a lot better than this shower of absolute shite actually. Where would they have got the ppe from? Why pretend to be dim ? Are questions banned?" Only difficult ones. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? " As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , " I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link?" Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps . | |||
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" It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . " ...or we could do it with numbers. As things stand in Wales there have been 1173 deaths out of a population of 3.136m, or 1 per 2673. In the UK as a whole there have been 33998 and population is 66.65m, yield 1 per 1960. Of course both figures compare very unfavourably with the current global average. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps ." Apologies for my incorrect assumption. Which newspaper was it in? There appears to be inaccurate statements and a lack of information. Such as. "Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away." Cheshire is a long way from some parts of North Wales. And I was wondering what the given reason for not using the English "mega lab", maybe it's part of a different trust and would have cost more, for example. I wondered if the original piece had anything more fact based? | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps . Apologies for my incorrect assumption. Which newspaper was it in? There appears to be inaccurate statements and a lack of information. Such as. "Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away." Cheshire is a long way from some parts of North Wales. And I was wondering what the given reason for not using the English "mega lab", maybe it's part of a different trust and would have cost more, for example. I wondered if the original piece had anything more fact based?" Hi. Lots of facts of which I have already quoted quite a few. Check pages 18 and 19. The author is Guy Adams. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps . Apologies for my incorrect assumption. Which newspaper was it in? There appears to be inaccurate statements and a lack of information. Such as. "Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away." Cheshire is a long way from some parts of North Wales. And I was wondering what the given reason for not using the English "mega lab", maybe it's part of a different trust and would have cost more, for example. I wondered if the original piece had anything more fact based? Hi. Lots of facts of which I have already quoted quite a few. Check pages 18 and 19. The author is Guy Adams. " I see. Guy Adams writes for the Daily Mail. So you summarised an opinion piece he wrote? Just to be clear, I'm not buying a copy just to see if there is any information about any of the claims he made. As I already know the answer. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps . Apologies for my incorrect assumption. Which newspaper was it in? There appears to be inaccurate statements and a lack of information. Such as. "Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away." Cheshire is a long way from some parts of North Wales. And I was wondering what the given reason for not using the English "mega lab", maybe it's part of a different trust and would have cost more, for example. I wondered if the original piece had anything more fact based? Hi. Lots of facts of which I have already quoted quite a few. Check pages 18 and 19. The author is Guy Adams. " Pat, I have seen no indication that you have ever provided a fact. You have often provided opinion. This is one of the few times that you have actually provided a source as you mostly tend to imply that you have access to privileged information that others do not. Your imperviousness to actual data is remarkable. As you have often pointed out, it is fortunate that your opinion, as that of others on a swingers site, is of no consequence. I hope this helps. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps . Apologies for my incorrect assumption. Which newspaper was it in? There appears to be inaccurate statements and a lack of information. Such as. "Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away." Cheshire is a long way from some parts of North Wales. And I was wondering what the given reason for not using the English "mega lab", maybe it's part of a different trust and would have cost more, for example. I wondered if the original piece had anything more fact based? Hi. Lots of facts of which I have already quoted quite a few. Check pages 18 and 19. The author is Guy Adams. I see. Guy Adams writes for the Daily Mail. So you summarised an opinion piece he wrote? Just to be clear, I'm not buying a copy just to see if there is any information about any of the claims he made. As I already know the answer. " And people kick up a stink when a guardian or independent source is quoted. | |||
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"and were running the country they have the same medical and science advisers and civil servants what do you think they would have done different ?? i think very little difference would be the case i firmly believe no government would have got this 100% right so far so what do you think ?? As Labour run the NHS in Wales we can make a few comparisons Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away. Test targets set by Labour Health Minster was 9000 tests a day by the end of April . The target was subsequently abandoned and daily tests were only around the 700 mark in April and are now beteen 956 and 1421 per day . The Chief executive of Public Health Wales claims she was not familiar with the 9000 target and had never been aware of it . Residents in Wales were advised to dial 111 if they though that they might be affected by Covid 19 ( even though there is no such service for residents of North Wales ) . There were delays in sending out shielding letters and 16000 were sent to the wrong address . As things stand , Wales currently has the worst transmission rates and the worst testing regime in the UK . It can be left to public to decide if Labour would have performed any better during the crisis . If what happened in Wales ( and is the only data available on which we can judge the performance of Labour ) it would appear to indicate that their handling of the crisis would be inferior to the present government , I was unable to find the alt right website you copied and pasted from this time. Do you have the link? Hi. I would not expect you to do find it on a website as it is a summary ( not copy and pasted ) from a two page article published in a leading national newspaper today. Information published in newspapers tends to be subject to more rigorous checks than that published on websites. Hope this helps . Apologies for my incorrect assumption. Which newspaper was it in? There appears to be inaccurate statements and a lack of information. Such as. "Unto recently tests carried out in North Wales were being sent on a day long journey because Welsh offic1als refused to use an English mega lab facility in Alderley Park Cheshire which is about an hour away." Cheshire is a long way from some parts of North Wales. And I was wondering what the given reason for not using the English "mega lab", maybe it's part of a different trust and would have cost more, for example. I wondered if the original piece had anything more fact based? Hi. Lots of facts of which I have already quoted quite a few. Check pages 18 and 19. The author is Guy Adams. " The daily fail correspondent ? Lol from england and a conservative member ? On a simplistic level I think we can disregard guys remarks. | |||
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