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"Mistress Nicola dealt a much-deserved whipping to the venal, incompetent, work-shy blond buffoon piggy today by announcing that Scotland's lockdown, up for renewal, will be continuing for another period of three weeks, subject to circumstances dictating otherwise. This was at odds with the noises coming from the WM government this week, suggesting a gradual return to work from next week and trailed with much glee in the right wing propaganda red-tops. No, wee piggy, said Mistress Nicola. London will make the decisions for England, but Holyrood's FM will act in the best interests of the people of Scotland, based on medical and scientific advice and irrespective of what happens south of the border. The extreme Britnat scumbags at the Daily Heil must be seething. Result! (Not enjoying the lockdown, but if the experts recommend renewal, so be it)" Not sure it's something to crow about, her and yourself getting sucked in by the likes of the red tops you don't seem too keen on and I share that view.. She, you, I and the rest of us will have to wait.. | |||
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"It's not a coincidence that the daily briefing from Scotland happens before the National one from No.10 Never misses an opportunity to remind the folks of their raison d'être. "She's trying to be all leader like in trying to set the agenda to pacify her supporters but so far has been ignored.. Deflection perhaps from the inner machinations of her party? | |||
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"Mistress Nicola dealt a much-deserved whipping to the venal, incompetent, work-shy blond buffoon piggy today by announcing that Scotland's lockdown, up for renewal, will be continuing for another period of three weeks, subject to circumstances dictating otherwise. This was at odds with the noises coming from the WM government this week, suggesting a gradual return to work from next week and trailed with much glee in the right wing propaganda red-tops. No, wee piggy, said Mistress Nicola. London will make the decisions for England, but Holyrood's FM will act in the best interests of the people of Scotland, based on medical and scientific advice and irrespective of what happens south of the border. The extreme Britnat scumbags at the Daily Heil must be seething. Result! (Not enjoying the lockdown, but if the experts recommend renewal, so be it)" I thought that everyone was supposed to be working together in order to resolve this crisis . Are the government not reviewing the situation on a day by day basis .? I thought that the proposal was to announce future plans on Sunday. Nicola Sturgeon has simply jumped the gun. You would have thought that she could have waited unto Sunday before making an announcement. With regards to your other comments 57 % of the population think Boris is doing a good job in circumstances. I dot not think that I would refer to someone who is fluent in six languages as a buffoon.To master six languages is a skill in itself. | |||
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"Mistress Nicola dealt a much-deserved whipping to the venal, incompetent, work-shy blond buffoon piggy today by announcing that Scotland's lockdown, up for renewal, will be continuing for another period of three weeks, subject to circumstances dictating otherwise. This was at odds with the noises coming from the WM government this week, suggesting a gradual return to work from next week and trailed with much glee in the right wing propaganda red-tops. No, wee piggy, said Mistress Nicola. London will make the decisions for England, but Holyrood's FM will act in the best interests of the people of Scotland, based on medical and scientific advice and irrespective of what happens south of the border. The extreme Britnat scumbags at the Daily Heil must be seething. Result! (Not enjoying the lockdown, but if the experts recommend renewal, so be it) I thought that everyone was supposed to be working together in order to resolve this crisis . Are the government not reviewing the situation on a day by day basis .? I thought that the proposal was to announce future plans on Sunday. Nicola Sturgeon has simply jumped the gun. You would have thought that she could have waited unto Sunday before making an announcement. With regards to your other comments 57 % of the population think Boris is doing a good job in circumstances. I dot not think that I would refer to someone who is fluent in six languages as a buffoon.To master six languages is a skill in itself. " Have they asked every single person in the country? | |||
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"Mistress Nicola dealt a much-deserved whipping to the venal, incompetent, work-shy blond buffoon piggy today by announcing that Scotland's lockdown, up for renewal, will be continuing for another period of three weeks, subject to circumstances dictating otherwise. This was at odds with the noises coming from the WM government this week, suggesting a gradual return to work from next week and trailed with much glee in the right wing propaganda red-tops. No, wee piggy, said Mistress Nicola. London will make the decisions for England, but Holyrood's FM will act in the best interests of the people of Scotland, based on medical and scientific advice and irrespective of what happens south of the border. The extreme Britnat scumbags at the Daily Heil must be seething. Result! (Not enjoying the lockdown, but if the experts recommend renewal, so be it)" YOu need to learn a few manners for starters | |||
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"I'm failing to see your point Scotland is doing what it thinks is best, England is doing the same. So what " Just sad Nationalist bile. | |||
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"I'm failing to see your point Scotland is doing what it thinks is best, England is doing the same. So what Just sad Nationalist bile. " Ohhh I see. Well if Scotland wants to leave the union I wish they'd just get on with it | |||
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"It's all bluster from Sturgeon 'cos the Salmond affair will kick off once Covid dealt with. She and her allies tried to frame him and failed he wants to bring her down she knows it so is giving it the "look at me I'm in charge" routine." I think you are right, she had him condemned even before his trial. | |||
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"Mistress Nicola dealt a much-deserved whipping to the venal, incompetent, work-shy blond buffoon piggy today by announcing that Scotland's lockdown, up for renewal, will be continuing for another period of three weeks, subject to circumstances dictating otherwise. This was at odds with the noises coming from the WM government this week, suggesting a gradual return to work from next week and trailed with much glee in the right wing propaganda red-tops. No, wee piggy, said Mistress Nicola. London will make the decisions for England, but Holyrood's FM will act in the best interests of the people of Scotland, based on medical and scientific advice and irrespective of what happens south of the border. The extreme Britnat scumbags at the Daily Heil must be seething. Result! (Not enjoying the lockdown, but if the experts recommend renewal, so be it)YOu need to learn a few manners for starters" Would it be better to take your approach and spit on people? | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?" She,s just a horrible woman | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman" Brilliant, well thought out, well reasoned, logical and water tight argument. | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman" What has she done to provoke your ire? | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?" She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her" Do you have any evidence of speeches etv where she says she hates the english? | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her Do you have any evidence of speeches etv where she says she hates the english?" There is no evidence of her hating the English it's just how he see it, a lot of people only see what they want to see. But most know she had no time for the uk unless she asking for money. | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her Do you have any evidence of speeches etv where she says she hates the english?There is no evidence of her hating the English it's just how he see it, a lot of people only see what they want to see. But most know she had no time for the uk unless she asking for money. " So that statement is inaccurate then. She wants independence for Scotland as far as can tell. | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her Do you have any evidence of speeches etv where she says she hates the english?There is no evidence of her hating the English it's just how he see it, a lot of people only see what they want to see. But most know she had no time for the uk unless she asking for money. " I think that's why this country is in such a pickle. Aside from the virus, the whole "There is no evidence of her hating the English it's just how he see it", we now live in an era where everyone's opinion is treated equally regardless of facts or information. Also should she not be trying to do what's best for Scotland, I'm assuming that's her remit? I don't really know much about her, she seems to annoy the far right elements that post on these forums, but they can never pinpoint what they don't like, usually just call her silly names. So that does peak my interest, maybe she's alright! | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her Do you have any evidence of speeches etv where she says she hates the english?There is no evidence of her hating the English it's just how he see it, a lot of people only see what they want to see. But most know she had no time for the uk unless she asking for money. I think that's why this country is in such a pickle. Aside from the virus, the whole "There is no evidence of her hating the English it's just how he see it", we now live in an era where everyone's opinion is treated equally regardless of facts or information. Also should she not be trying to do what's best for Scotland, I'm assuming that's her remit? I don't really know much about her, she seems to annoy the far right elements that post on these forums, but they can never pinpoint what they don't like, usually just call her silly names. So that does peak my interest, maybe she's alright! " The irony meter is off the scale re Brexit | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her" In that case, I suggest you revise your reading material. I’ve never, EVER heard it being about ‘hating the English’. Your comment speaks more of personal insecurity and ignorance than it does of truth. | |||
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"It's not a coincidence that the daily briefing from Scotland happens before the National one from No.10 Never misses an opportunity to remind the folks of their raison d'être. "the government could always bring it forward if they wanted to... nothing stopping them! the reason why they do it at 5 is they want it to the be biggest headline on the national networks news (the BBC 6 and ITV 6.30 ones) thus getting as many eyeballs on it as possible.... its a "media" thing..... | |||
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"It’s not true to say that both countries are thinking of the medical matters. As an outsider, it is obvious that is manifestly untrue. Both governments will have medical data and models related to the special differences of that country. Scotland appears very obviously to be working from scientific advice which is why Ms Sturgeon’s trust rating is second only to that of the NHS, while Westminster is working to the advice of financial institutions and Dominic Cummings, with only a passing glance at medical matters. It seems perfectly obvious the Conservatives are happy to let people die, to save their pockets." However if you look at deaths per million of the population Scotland's deaths are similar to Wales and above those of Northern Ireland so her performance is no better and in at least one case worse than other parts of the UK . As England has a number of densely populated cities you would expect death rates in England to be substantially higher than Scotland or Wales. | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?She,s just a horrible woman What has she done to provoke your ire?She hates the English with a passion,so I detest her" She doesn't hate the English. Maybe she just doesn't want people like you to have any influence over the destiny of her country. I know I don't. | |||
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"The lockdown was to protect the NHS from being overrun and last I looked hospitals are at less than 20% capacity so remind me again when the rules were changed to lockdown now being because the R number isn't low enough? 19 people under the age of 45 have died in Scotland. 19! Over 3/4 of the deaths have been in the over 75 age group Yet I'm being forced to stay indoors,can't see family,can't do anything but shops are opening,people are going back to work where the virus can spread regardless of measures taken? Fuck you Sturgeon." Plus I would like to add the testing and trace never really got going and the r number she thinks is 9! It's about time they did proper amounts of testing to discover where it is and deal with it | |||
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"Mistress Nicola dealt a much-deserved whipping to the venal, incompetent, work-shy blond buffoon piggy today by announcing that Scotland's lockdown, up for renewal, will be continuing for another period of three weeks, subject to circumstances dictating otherwise. This was at odds with the noises coming from the WM government this week, suggesting a gradual return to work from next week and trailed with much glee in the right wing propaganda red-tops. No, wee piggy, said Mistress Nicola. London will make the decisions for England, but Holyrood's FM will act in the best interests of the people of Scotland, based on medical and scientific advice and irrespective of what happens south of the border. The extreme Britnat scumbags at the Daily Heil must be seething. Result! (Not enjoying the lockdown, but if the experts recommend renewal, so be it) I thought that everyone was supposed to be working together in order to resolve this crisis . Are the government not reviewing the situation on a day by day basis .? I thought that the proposal was to announce future plans on Sunday. Nicola Sturgeon has simply jumped the gun. You would have thought that she could have waited unto Sunday before making an announcement. With regards to your other comments 57 % of the population think Boris is doing a good job in circumstances. I dot not think that I would refer to someone who is fluent in six languages as a buffoon.To master six languages is a skill in itself. " F*ck right off! That imbecile Johnson isn't fit to run a bath! He is accountable for all of this and all those who have died. We need to kick the fat f*cker out before he sends Britain down the pan. | |||
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"From what i can see,she hates the english and she wants to break up the union of the uk,accordi g to her its scottish oil,its in international waters,she wants the faslane nuclear base moved out of scotland,thats protecting the uk and europe,but still wants jobs building military ships,we subsidise the nhs scotland so theres is free,the same for there education fee's and if you live in glasgow as an english man,make sure your will is written,she doesnt have to say it ,as in quote ,its so fukkkking obvious to most of us" I see no evidence in this rambling, inaccurate, bizarre post to suggest that she "hates the English". To say "From what i can see,she hates the english" (sic), then not mention any of these visions you're having, doesn't make for a very convincing argument. And what's the big problem is she does break the union? Brexit has ruined the UK, I don't blame any section to want the right to self determination. | |||
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"Brexit hasnt been done yet,so what you on about,all the anti british rule politics she does is to break us up,its obvious the scots hate us in the major population areas,but you think its good to have seperate parts of the uk to self rule with only 4 million people living there,i think you just dont like to see it all come apart so you can say ,told you so .lol" I don't specifically support or oppose an independent Scotland. I'm not Scottish and I don't live there. I can see why some Scottish people would want to leave the union. Brexit has happened. We did leave the EU. And it has already cost the country over £130 billion a year. The next steps are to start removing our rights, workers rights, environmental protection etc. And of course the trade deal with the states. If I was Scottish I would probably vote for independence so we could apply to join the EU. | |||
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"And stop winning an argument on spelling ,grammar and stating facts,ive given you facts now you look up if they are true yourzelf" Staying facts is a normal part of a discussion or argument. I have better things to do than browse the Daily Mail website looking for evidence of your "facts". Believe it or not. I am still genuinely interested in Nicola Sturgeon, and what it is people don't like about her. If you feel like you can do it without insults and threats of violence, maybe have another go? | |||
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"The eu dont want little old scotland they are small fry,they want to keep uk in eu ,not happening,sturgeon thinks she can go indy.it will cost her country billions to do that, after scotland voted to stay in uk ,ha.So atm sturgeon is riding high,but with most scottish trade with england of her 4 million people ,she will realise its best stay with us,as they dont have billions in reserves and whisky i would think is their main export" Scotland's main exports are: Fish, Confectionery, Oil & Gas, Renewable Energy, Scotch Whisky, Textiles, Timber, Water So your reason for disliking her is that she is campaigning for Scottish independence, which you believe would be disadvantagous for their economy? | |||
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"You seem to bave all day every day sitting in a swingers forum ,slagging american people english people who dont see your point of view,and we would all love to live in utopia,but never goin to happen while man walks the earth lol,have a nice day" I think you'll find, out of the two of us. One has thrown insults and threatened violence. The other, is me. | |||
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"The eu dont want little old scotland they are small fry,they want to keep uk in eu ,not happening,sturgeon thinks she can go indy.it will cost her country billions to do that, after scotland voted to stay in uk ,ha.So atm sturgeon is riding high,but with most scottish trade with england of her 4 million people ,she will realise its best stay with us,as they dont have billions in reserves and whisky i would think is their main export" Please be advised the UK left the EU at the end of January this year. Even the EU now recognise this. Talks that are going on now are to do with the future relationship | |||
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"The eu dont want little old scotland they are small fry,they want to keep uk in eu ,not happening,sturgeon thinks she can go indy.it will cost her country billions to do that, after scotland voted to stay in uk ,ha.So atm sturgeon is riding high,but with most scottish trade with england of her 4 million people ,she will realise its best stay with us,as they dont have billions in reserves and whisky i would think is their main export" little old Scotland? Small fry? Best to stay with us? Don't you have a "we're better than you" attitude! | |||
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"From what i can see,she hates the english and she wants to break up the union of the uk,accordi g to her its scottish oil,its in international waters,she wants the faslane nuclear base moved out of scotland,thats protecting the uk and europe,but still wants jobs building military ships,we subsidise the nhs scotland so theres is free,the same for there education fee's and if you live in glasgow as an english man,make sure your will is written,she doesnt have to say it ,as in quote ,its so fukkkking obvious to most of us" And as a Scotsman who lives in Glasgow, the English are more than welcome without the need for a will. I find that an astounding comment. | |||
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"From what i can see,she hates the english and she wants to break up the union of the uk,accordi g to her its scottish oil,its in international waters,she wants the faslane nuclear base moved out of scotland,thats protecting the uk and europe,but still wants jobs building military ships,we subsidise the nhs scotland so theres is free,the same for there education fee's and if you live in glasgow as an english man,make sure your will is written,she doesnt have to say it ,as in quote ,its so fukkkking obvious to most of usAnd as a Scotsman who lives in Glasgow, the English are more than welcome without the need for a will. I find that an astounding comment." I had a great time whenever I've been to Glasgow. The people are great fun. | |||
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"She really is a pathetic excuse for a woman Why?" Her attitude on election night probably says all that there is to say about her. On hearing that Jo Swinson was defeated she clenched her fist and there was sheer delight on her face . Most people would attempt to maintain degree of dignity and not showunrestrained rejoice in what was probably the end of someones career. Her reaction waa plain nasty. | |||
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"I have been travelling to scotland myself since the 70's,and working there recently,they have slowly began to show distain for westminster rule and which transfers onto workers from england not being welcome north of the border,it shows in simple sports torments how they dont want england to win,and there is also a hidden agender of the irish troubles getting linked to the hate of the english,i know you will condemn this as reading the fake facts but i know it happens thru family experiences,so you wont convince me as i wont convince you,the problem is im not spouting off in a forum as you are" Come on dude. So they want us to loose at the football (nearly every country in the world wants us to loose at football) and you met some people who gave you some guff. Big deal. What does this have to do with Nicola Sturgeon? Why shouldn't they show distain for Westminster rule. Anyone who's been following the goings on for the last ten years is showing distain. Not sure what you're saying about the Irish troubles. But I'll listen to the point if you care to explain? | |||
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"I have been travelling to scotland myself since the 70's,and working there recently,they have slowly began to show distain for westminster rule and which transfers onto workers from england not being welcome north of the border,it shows in simple sports torments how they dont want england to win,and there is also a hidden agender of the irish troubles getting linked to the hate of the english,i know you will condemn this as reading the fake facts but i know it happens thru family experiences,so you wont convince me as i wont convince you,the problem is im not spouting off in a forum as you are" I think you are spouting off on a forum or maybe I'm blind and you didn't put up those unsubstantiated remarks that clearly have your name on them. The only reason we don't want England to win is we are still hearing about '66! And unless you think a very small proportion of 5.5 million people (not the 4million you somehow get) speak for everyone about not being welcome then you can add your last post to the pile of gibberish you've spouted. | |||
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"Can anyone point to a particular policy or law that makes the union unequal? I personally dont care what the Scottish decide to do but I would be genuinely interested in Sturgeons argument for independence " It’s not Sturgeon’s argument for independence. It’s a party policy of the SNP. From what I can tell, it’s about taking back self-governance of the country (older than England btw), of Self-awareness and pride. Of not being dictated to by a larger neighbour and ploughing its own furrow. Scotland and England are very different in many, many ways. The lack of recognition of this has resulted in the independence movement. | |||
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"Can anyone point to a particular policy or law that makes the union unequal? I personally dont care what the Scottish decide to do but I would be genuinely interested in Sturgeons argument for independence It’s not Sturgeon’s argument for independence. It’s a party policy of the SNP. From what I can tell, it’s about taking back self-governance of the country (older than England btw), of Self-awareness and pride. Of not being dictated to by a larger neighbour and ploughing its own furrow. Scotland and England are very different in many, many ways. The lack of recognition of this has resulted in the independence movement." Ok, so no particular law favours England over Scotland then Well hopefully independence of each other comes to fruition, for both nations I guess | |||
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"I know nothing about the laws of the UK but I do know the two countries have their own legal systems. Any law made by Westminster would be for the UK. But then, it’s not about a law. It’s about an awful lot more than that. " I'm all for it. I definitely wouldn't want to be part of a union that the other side didn't want. Maybe we should try for an English movement for independence from Scotland  | |||
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"I have been travelling to scotland myself since the 70's,and working there recently,they have slowly began to show distain for westminster rule and which transfers onto workers from england not being welcome north of the border,it shows in simple sports torments how they dont want england to win,and there is also a hidden agender of the irish troubles getting linked to the hate of the english,i know you will condemn this as reading the fake facts but i know it happens thru family experiences,so you wont convince me as i wont convince you,the problem is im not spouting off in a forum as you are" ... You realise the Scott's and Irish have a long and stronger cultural history than that of the Union right? I mean we're on about more trade and cultural intermarriage going on between the Irish and Scotts than what happened between the Scott's and Anglo Saxons. P.s, sports really shouldn't be representing political opinions. If you view it that way, maybe get out more? | |||
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"do anyone else see a lot of irony in the "well I can leave if i want... but how dare you want to leave me" position of some of the "south of the border" posters...... "Ironic? In what way? I just don't think the issue of Scotland leaving the union features highly on the agenda of the English. They voted to stay in 2014 but if the majority choose to leave in the future I dont think anyone is going to lose any sleep over it. Good luck to them I say | |||
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"The lockdown was to protect the NHS from being overrun and last I looked hospitals are at less than 20% capacity so remind me again when the rules were changed to lockdown now being because the R number isn't low enough? 19 people under the age of 45 have died in Scotland. 19! Over 3/4 of the deaths have been in the over 75 age group Yet I'm being forced to stay indoors,can't see family,can't do anything but shops are opening,people are going back to work where the virus can spread regardless of measures taken? Fuck you Sturgeon." You are forced to stay indoors!!!! . only person forcing YOU to stay indoors is yourself or do you always do as your told and believe all that is said from your leaders | |||
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"The lockdown was to protect the NHS from being overrun and last I looked hospitals are at less than 20% capacity so remind me again when the rules were changed to lockdown now being because the R number isn't low enough? 19 people under the age of 45 have died in Scotland. 19! Over 3/4 of the deaths have been in the over 75 age group Yet I'm being forced to stay indoors,can't see family,can't do anything but shops are opening,people are going back to work where the virus can spread regardless of measures taken? Fuck you Sturgeon. You are forced to stay indoors!!!! . only person forcing YOU to stay indoors is yourself or do you always do as your told and believe all that is said from your leaders" Here in England it won't get much laxer. Maybe we can go out more for excersise. Maybe a bit further afield for a day out at a National Park. It can sometimes be right to question the advice given to leaders, and the leaders themselves. I mean if you want to be the righteous Libertarian you seem to be on here, go for it, not my issue if you get done over by yourself and the police find you. It is my issue if you test positive or negative for COVID-19 though and have been travelling about, putting yourself and others at risk. Enjoy the social ostracisation. | |||
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"do anyone else see a lot of irony in the "well I can leave if i want... but how dare you want to leave me" position of some of the "south of the border" posters...... "Most peeps i know couldnt give a flying fuck if scotland stay or leave the union.think most peeps thoughts are either get on with it and leave or stop whinning about it | |||
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"do anyone else see a lot of irony in the "well I can leave if i want... but how dare you want to leave me" position of some of the "south of the border" posters......
Most peeps i know couldnt give a flying fuck if scotland stay or leave the union.think most peeps thoughts are either get on with it and leave or stop whinning about it"This I genuinely don't know a single person who cares one way or the other | |||
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"It’s more that Scotland has had a better leader. Sturgeon has been clear, empathetic to the loses, spoken with authority, explained the science and the reason for the scientific advice which has led the decisions. Westminster has been diabolical in its response. Bumbling, without credit, and with extremely poor decisions, including withholding PPE to Scotland. As an outsider, the Scottish response has been leadership. Sturgeon wins the trust and confidence of the country. Johnson’s day his cabinet fill me with the fear they doesn’t know what the Hhell they are talking about and that they were absent from any scientific update meeting. " So the devolved approach is a good thing then | |||
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" So the devolved approach is a good thing then" if the westminster government are going to bragg and state they will conduct it as a "4 nation approach" and they all 4 would have to same rules and standards... then wouldn't be wise to have consulted and let the other 3 know your thinking and plans going forward... edinburgh, cardiff and belfast are all saying they were not consulted at all.... | |||
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" So the devolved approach is a good thing then if the westminster government are going to bragg and state they will conduct it as a "4 nation approach" and they all 4 would have to same rules and standards... then wouldn't be wise to have consulted and let the other 3 know your thinking and plans going forward... edinburgh, cardiff and belfast are all saying they were not consulted at all...." Like I say its working as the different nations can do what works best for them especially as the cycle time varies from one part of the UK to another | |||
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" So the devolved approach is a good thing then if the westminster government are going to bragg and state they will conduct it as a "4 nation approach" and they all 4 would have to same rules and standards... then wouldn't be wise to have consulted and let the other 3 know your thinking and plans going forward.. edinburgh, cardiff and belfast are all saying they were not consulted at all...." ....they learned about it from the Sunday papers. How grown-up was Westminster then? Rank cowardice. | |||
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"do anyone else see a lot of irony in the "well I can leave if i want... but how dare you want to leave me" position of some of the "south of the border" posters...... "There's a fair amount of that, for sure. Has to be said, though; most people in England wouldn't be that bothered if Scotland became independent. It's UK governments, of either stripe, that don't want to lose Scotland. Even if you accept that keeping it costs you slightly more, per head of population, than you'd like; it's a bargain. The loss of one third of the UK's landmass, the waters round it and a place to park Trident are what successive UK governments have striven to avoid. It's a matter of prestige and not wanting to upset HMQ. | |||
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"do anyone else see a lot of irony in the "well I can leave if i want... but how dare you want to leave me" position of some of the "south of the border" posters......
There's a fair amount of that, for sure. Has to be said, though; most people in England wouldn't be that bothered if Scotland became independent.
It's UK governments, of either stripe, that don't want to lose Scotland. Even if you accept that keeping it costs you slightly more, per head of population, than you'd like; it's a bargain.
The loss of one third of the UK's landmass, the waters round it and a place to park Trident are what successive UK governments have striven to avoid.
It's a matter of prestige and not wanting to upset HMQ."Exactly what I was saying in my earlier posts. I don't know anyone who is remotely bothered one way or the other to be honest and if it means we dont have to keep hearing about how the English is to blame for everything then I'm all for independence | |||
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