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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit. "

We haven't brexited properly yet have we. Doesn't the genuine answer to this lie with the result of the trade deals we get?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit. "

Nice to see a remainer acknowledging that but suspect you will be getting some flack from some on here.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Oh we have not left yet ....keep hanging on to the remain dream...rather than support our great country in difficult times

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit. "

Well I've already been warned by Asthma UK that the current availability of the (Clenil 100) medication I take is problematic at the moment.

But I think talking about things like medicines obvious Brexit and Covid are different scenarios. Brexit was going to put regulatory red tape in the way of moving medicines. Covid is putting shortage of supplies and hammering logistics itself.

Also, I don't remember Brexiteers saying "Don't worry if everything gets more expensive from Brexit as the govt will announce massive social welfare packages to help everyone out".

-Matt

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Suggest you read about the macron boy ...trying to seek advantages from the eu to support his own ....hey a united eu ....I think not

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit.

Nice to see a remainer acknowledging that but suspect you will be getting some flack from some on here. "

Well I always try to look at everything with a balanced view and while yes Brexit and the virus are very different I think if we can keep the required medical provisions flowing through this world crisis then Brexit will be a breeze in comparison.

Just my opinion which may be wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh we have not left yet ....keep hanging on to the remain dream...rather than support our great country in difficult times"

Haha love it. I don't think you read the OPs post.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit. "

There are shortages now,I have to wait a couple of days for some of my regular prescription,luckily I want to Chemist early so will be ok.

Brexit has nothing to do with this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Suggest you read about the macron boy ...trying to seek advantages from the eu to support his own ....hey a united eu ....I think not"

Typical. Again, something that doesn't make sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit. Nice to see a remainer acknowledging that but suspect you will be getting some flack from some on here. "

Something constructive? I forgot. It's not this person

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

The transit of medicines has not been affected by Covid19

Neither has the transit of food or any other essential items.

Do you have information to the contrary or is it an assumption?

So, no relation to what will or will not happen during Brexit as far as I can see.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Hopefully it will remain the same after the transition period.

I was disappointed that we seemed to pass up the kind offer of joining in with the EU’s ventilator procurement plan.

Covid 19 has demonstrated the need to work together if anything.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So this was a hot and fiercely contested topic a while back as to a massive Brexit downfall the envisaged medicine shortages Brexit would / could bring.

Now Covid-19 has basically closed down the majority of the world, we haven't heard as much as a peep about any potential shortages of medicines so even as a remainer myself I'm tending to believe it was mainly bollocks over Brexit.

There are shortages now,I have to wait a couple of days for some of my regular prescription,luckily I want to Chemist early so will be ok.

Brexit has nothing to do with this."

I don't think you got the jist of my post either

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The transit of medicines has not been affected by Covid19

Neither has the transit of food or any other essential items.

Do you have information to the contrary or is it an assumption?

So, no relation to what will or will not happen during Brexit as far as I can see."

And another who seems to have missed the jist of this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The transit of medicines has not been affected by Covid19

Neither has the transit of food or any other essential items.

Do you have information to the contrary or is it an assumption?

So, no relation to what will or will not happen during Brexit as far as I can see.

And another who seems to have missed the jist of this thread "

exactly, then he fires a different question...…..

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he was whinging earlier of others doing exactly as he is doing now,

maybe he needs to read this thread

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Why post on a thread of you do not wish to engage?

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hahahaha

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"The transit of medicines has not been affected by Covid19

Neither has the transit of food or any other essential items.

Do you have information to the contrary or is it an assumption?

So, no relation to what will or will not happen during Brexit as far as I can see.

And another who seems to have missed the jist of this thread "

Perhaps I have.

I thought you were saying that because of Vivid there is a shortage of medicines.

There isn't because they are still being produced and still being shipped at the current rate and under the current regulations.

This may change of course.

However, if we had changed our rules such that the regulation and transport of goods became more restricted then the situation would be different as that would affect medicines along with everything else.

Is that right or did miss something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

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How odd. The rules haven't changed yet. That means that we have excellent supply within the EU due to all the countries that they deal with

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury


"Suggest you read about the macron boy ...trying to seek advantages from the eu to support his own ....hey a united eu ....I think not

Typical. Again, something that doesn't make sense "

what can't u understand

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh.

It was just a bad case of remoanervirus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

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What are you talking about? Have you heard of the transition period?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

What are you talking about? Have you heard of the transition period? "

its not what I said, its what Matt Hancock is saying, try keep up lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

What are you talking about? Have you heard of the transition period?

its not what I said, its what Matt Hancock is saying, try keep up lol"

Do you agree with what Matt Hancock is saying? How has Brexit improved our medicine supplies yet hasn’t improved our PPE and testing equipment supplies?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

What are you talking about? Have you heard of the transition period?

its not what I said, its what Matt Hancock is saying, try keep up lol

Do you agree with what Matt Hancock is saying? How has Brexit improved our medicine supplies yet hasn’t improved our PPE and testing equipment supplies? "

I believe in looking after No.1, family and friends

what do you believe in? rainbows and unicorns ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

What are you talking about? Have you heard of the transition period?

its not what I said, its what Matt Hancock is saying, try keep up lol

Do you agree with what Matt Hancock is saying? How has Brexit improved our medicine supplies yet hasn’t improved our PPE and testing equipment supplies?

I believe in looking after No.1, family and friends

what do you believe in? rainbows and unicorns ?"

Do you believe in looking after NHS and key workers safety or just family and friends ?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Matt Hancock has just this minute said on sky news that the UK has excellent supply due to Brexit as they can now deal with more countries sky news 17:53

What are you talking about? Have you heard of the transition period?

its not what I said, its what Matt Hancock is saying, try keep up lol

Do you agree with what Matt Hancock is saying? How has Brexit improved our medicine supplies yet hasn’t improved our PPE and testing equipment supplies?

I believe in looking after No.1, family and friends

what do you believe in? rainbows and unicorns ?"

I believe in rainbows.

Not unicorns.

One is real. One is not.

To translate that for you, I will do my best to loom after friends and family directly.

I will be kind to as many people that I can.

I would like my government to look after as many people as possible.

Some things are not possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I believe in rainbows.

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so you believe in illusions

you are aware that a rainbow is an illusion. Millions of drops of water falling through the air in a rain shower happen to be in sunlight, and each one acts as a prism, refracting the rays from the sun and breaking up the spectrum into discrete colours, each of which is projected at a particular angle. The result is that an observer sees different colours from different drops of water, in bands that blend into what we call a rainbow

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"

I believe in rainbows.

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so you believe in illusions

you are aware that a rainbow is an illusion. Millions of drops of water falling through the air in a rain shower happen to be in sunlight, and each one acts as a prism, refracting the rays from the sun and breaking up the spectrum into discrete colours, each of which is projected at a particular angle. The result is that an observer sees different colours from different drops of water, in bands that blend into what we call a rainbow"

If you like, but rainbows do not require belief.

Rainbows do actually occur. It is a physical phenomena not an "illusion". In fact, you just defined it as such. It just depends on your location, or perspective, as to whether you can see the rainbow or just the rain.

By way of the analogy, are you saying that you shouldn't try to be kind to strangers and governments shouldn't try to more widely assist those in difficulty?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Rainbows are optical illusions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rainbows are optical illusions "

It's a good analogy for Brexit.

If you look at it from a certain angle, and you don't know what it is, it looks good. But when you get there you just get rained on.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Rainbows are optical illusions

It's a good analogy for Brexit.

If you look at it from a certain angle, and you don't know what it is, it looks good. But when you get there you just get rained on."

LOL

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Or in the rainbow analogy, it looks good from a distance but you can never get there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Or in the rainbow analogy, it looks good from a distance but you can never get there "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Or in the rainbow analogy, it looks good from a distance but you can never get there

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its amazing how people can pick up on one word and go on debating it, watch a whole original thread topic change with such ease

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Or in the rainbow analogy, it looks good from a distance but you can never get there

its amazing how people can pick up on one word and go on debating it, watch a whole original thread topic change with such ease"

You must feel virile and powerful

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Well you are the self appointed forum policeman sort it out start another thread about it.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Fucking hell we arguing about rainbows now!!!!?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Well you are the self appointed forum policeman sort it out start another thread about it. "

Still banging on about a completely different thread? That's obsessive. Of course, you do think that it's all about you so more narcissistic

I did, actually, attempt to reply to the question. Both myself and others apparently failed to understand what was being asked.

I requested clarification but didn't receive any so moved on.

What have you achieved other than criticise me

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Well you are the self appointed forum policeman sort it out start another thread about it.

Still banging on about a completely different thread? That's obsessive. Of course, you do think that it's all about you so more narcissistic

I did, actually, attempt to reply to the question. Both myself and others apparently failed to understand what was being asked.

I requested clarification but didn't receive any so moved on.

What have you achieved other than criticise me "

Not at all obsessive but will continue to call you out as a hypocrite every time you go off piste. and if you dont like that you should stick to what you preach.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

OK to get back to my original point and give extra clarification...

My view "which may well be wrong" was that if we can keep medicines flowing throughout this world wide locked down crisis then doing the same after Brexit shouldn't be too much of a problem in comparison.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OK to get back to my original point and give extra clarification...

My view "which may well be wrong" was that if we can keep medicines flowing throughout this world wide locked down crisis then doing the same after Brexit shouldn't be too much of a problem in comparison. "

Just depends on what trade deals we get.

Best case scenario, slight increase in costs.

A hard Brexit with no deals. Huge shortages.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Well you are the self appointed forum policeman sort it out start another thread about it.

Still banging on about a completely different thread? That's obsessive. Of course, you do think that it's all about you so more narcissistic

I did, actually, attempt to reply to the question. Both myself and others apparently failed to understand what was being asked.

I requested clarification but didn't receive any so moved on.

What have you achieved other than criticise me Not at all obsessive but will continue to call you out as a hypocrite every time you go off piste. and if you dont like that you should stick to what you preach."

So as you want to keep talking about another thread, of you actually read it, you would know that it was about addressing the question before discussing something else. I didn't say that there was a problem with other discussions.

Mwah

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"OK to get back to my original point and give extra clarification...

My view "which may well be wrong" was that if we can keep medicines flowing throughout this world wide locked down crisis then doing the same after Brexit shouldn't be too much of a problem in comparison. "

I'm pretty sure that I said that there hasn't been a shortage in medicines, yet so no change in supply, and our terms of trades are also unchanged.

After Brexit our terms of trade will change. Our legislation over medicines will change as will checks at borders. So there's the potential problems with inspection and delays.

We are using the stockpiles of medicine intended for Brexit, which add storage cost to the NHS and therefore to us.

We may negotiate everything perfectly so that there will be no problem and life continues as normal after Brexit.

I won't hold my breath.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I won't hold my breath."

Oh please do try. Mwah

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


" I won't hold my breath.

Oh please do try. Mwah "

Is that just an attempt to insult me?

Why would you do that?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Oh you are so right once again ...number 1

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Oh you are so right once again ...number 1"

How about you contribute rather than follow me around?

#creepystalker

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Oh dear grouchy....it's a forum I'm congratulating you on your great post and how only one opinion counts ...no one else is ever right ...so keep up the great posts you give me entertainment value .....called out????? Lol

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Oh dear grouchy....it's a forum I'm congratulating you on your great post and how only one opinion counts ...no one else is ever right ...so keep up the great posts you give me entertainment value .....called out????? Lol"

Then why not contribute to the discussion rather than follow me around to insult me? You can explain with actual information and explanation why I should not disagree with you.

What do you actually want to achieve from this abusive behaviour that you are displaying?

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Great post ....abusive please elaborate...your just fun and easy to pull .....and every post ...your ....so right so that's what I find funny ....don't know why others bother to post ......it is a forum for all ..I'm complementing you on your great knowledge on everything......

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Great post ....abusive please elaborate...your just fun and easy to pull .....and every post ...your ....so right so that's what I find funny ....don't know why others bother to post ......it is a forum for all ..I'm complementing you on your great knowledge on everything...... "

You want to take pleasure in trying to mock a stranger who disagrees with you but you are unable to argue with coherently?

Fill your boots

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Oh dear grouchy....it's a forum I'm congratulating you on your great post and how only one opinion counts ...no one else is ever right ...so keep up the great posts you give me entertainment value .....called out????? Lol

Then why not contribute to the discussion rather than follow me around to insult me? You can explain with actual information and explanation why I should not disagree with you.

What do you actually want to achieve from this abusive behaviour that you are displaying?"

You seem very free with your accusations of people following you around it was me yesterday and now a couple more today do you not think you are a little paranoid?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Oh dear grouchy....it's a forum I'm congratulating you on your great post and how only one opinion counts ...no one else is ever right ...so keep up the great posts you give me entertainment value .....called out????? Lol

Then why not contribute to the discussion rather than follow me around to insult me? You can explain with actual information and explanation why I should not disagree with you.

What do you actually want to achieve from this abusive behaviour that you are displaying?You seem very free with your accusations of people following you around it was me yesterday and now a couple more today do you not think you are a little paranoid?"

Ah, the gangs all here

He posted the same thing on four threads sweetheart. That's not paranoid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I won't hold my breath.

Oh please do try. Mwah

Is that just an attempt to insult me?

Why would you do that? "

maybe like many others on here, he dont like you?

just maybe

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

I have no feelings what so ever he does not affect my life one bit but know that if he has the last word hes happy and think he has won the point.

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