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By *emmefatale OP Woman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Listening to Radio and they are discussing whether they should be banned in schools, i dont think thats a bad idea.

What do you think?

Do you think there are places they should be banned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mm... maybe not banned but a switch off rule unless your on yer break

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

definitely. and not just for the children. At my kids school we had to have a word with the headteacher as my daughters class teacher was constantly taking calls from her friends and texting in class when she was supposed to be teaching!

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By *emmefatale OP Woman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"mm... maybe not banned but a switch off rule unless your on year obreak

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teachers are saying they are a nightmare, kids are far too interested in phones and they disrupt lessons

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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I thought they already were

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No,as my day starts knowing my daughters at school safe,plus the fact school couldnt find her the other day and rang me saying why isnt she in school.....to which i replied unless aliens have kidnapped her i think you will find shes there....so i rang her in lesson and proceded to tell her the stoopid woman with the patronising attitude assumes your bunking...please go tell her your there with the deputy head doing interviews....so good job she had her phone in school or id have been one mum in panic mode.....i mean those poor aliens wouldnt stand a chance with her

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By *emmefatale OP Woman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"I thought they already were

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nope,lots of schools tell pupils they will get their phones confiscated if they get caught using them,but they are allowed to have them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my sons school run a policy of they are allowed to take them to school but hand them in after assembly on silent mode then get them back break times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"my sons school run a policy of they are allowed to take them to school but hand them in after assembly on silent mode then get them back break times "

That sound a good idea

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By *emmefatale OP Woman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"No,as my day starts knowing my daughters at school safe,plus the fact school couldnt find her the other day and rang me saying why isnt she in school.....to which i replied unless aliens have kidnapped her i think you will find shes there....so i rang her in lesson and proceded to tell her the stoopid woman with the patronising attitude assumes your bunking...please go tell her your there with the deputy head doing interviews....so good job she had her phone in school or id have been one mum in panic mode.....i mean those poor aliens wouldnt stand a chance with her

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but is she was in the building they would have found her by checking registers etc...i still dont think they are a necessity

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"my sons school run a policy of they are allowed to take them to school but hand them in after assembly on silent mode then get them back break times "

Makes sense

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By *icboyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes, phones adding to the ever shorting attention span the kids of today have...this is not a good thing...there is a time and place for all things...phones are for free time...most employers rightly have them banned from the work place...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

but is she was in the building they would have found her by checking registers etc...i still dont think they are a necessity

we had the same thing with our son we got a call from the school saying he wasnt there so we rang him and he went straight to the school recepstion and he was there at registration but the stupid idiot teacher hadnt marked him as in school

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

We recently brought our daughter one as she has starting walking to and from school on her own ( I don't like her doing it but know that I can't wrap her up in cotton wool forever

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She has to ring me when she gets to school so I know she has arrived safe and sound. She also has to ring me if she is going to be late on the way home.

If mobiles were banned from schools then she wouldn't be able to do this and I would worry even more.

But do think that they should have to be handed in or locked away during lesson times.

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By *emmefatale OP Woman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"We recently brought our daughter one as she has starting walking to and from school on her own ( I don't like her doing it but know that I can't wrap her up in cotton wool forever

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She has to ring me when she gets to school so I know she has arrived safe and sound. She also has to ring me if she is going to be late on the way home.

If mobiles were banned from schools then she wouldn't be able to do this and I would worry even more.

But do think that they should have to be handed in or locked away during lesson times."
now that i agree with

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I think it is a brilliant idea. If a parent needs to get hold of a child in emergency or vise versa then can always go through the school.

I also think they should be banned from restarants. If a babysitter has a problem they can ring the restaurant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But what if the school assume the childs not at school as i said earlier...i like to know my daughters safe and well and leaving that in the schools hands isnt on my agenda...as they are all on knowing where thier arse n.elbows are....my daughters txts me when shes arrived and when shes setting off and if shes going to be late ..the school wouldnt do that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would ban kids from having them any place other than their locker at school and definitely not switched on. Kids need to realise they are there to learn not answer texts or relieve calls. They never had them 20 years ago in schools and everyone coped fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it is a brilliant idea. If a parent needs to get hold of a child in emergency or vise versa then can always go through the school.

I also think they should be banned from restarants. If a babysitter has a problem they can ring the restaurant."

i mean ... ffs.. we managed quite well without them in the past

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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We all coped years ago without them....our parents didn't know our every move then either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it is a brilliant idea. If a parent needs to get hold of a child in emergency or vise versa then can always go through the school.

I also think they should be banned from restarants. If a babysitter has a problem they can ring the restaurant."

theres a local pub that has them banned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and, if they handed them in on arrival at school as someone has suggested, the school would then know if they were there or not, so not having to phone the parent to ask where they were.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world wasnt as evil back then....i for one am glad my daughter as her mobile phone at school,shes very responsible and respectful and knows not to use it in class..butu i know if i need to get in contact asap i can and vice versa

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By *lirty and dirtyCouple
over a year ago

ashford

I think while they are at school they should be switched off. I do think in this day all kids should have a mobile and be allowed to take it to school. My son got held back after school without my knowledge. I got a phone call from him saying because he had been held back he had missed his bus. As we hadnt long moved here he didnt know the area and got on the wrong bus so the convo started with mum i dont know where i am. I had to send him in to a pub to ask where he was. I then had to get a taxi to pick him up as i dont drive and other half wasnt here. I just dont know what would have happened if he hadnt had his mobile.

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley

My daughter has a iPhone for emergencies and so that I can keep track of her, but it is never ever turned in in school if there is a problem that is what the teacher is there for.

People who work for me donor use mobiles in the day and their partners know not to call except in a emergency. All this come about from one day being on site and counted over fifteen wasted man hours from mobile phone use

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

they banned car drivers from using them and is still in fact banned by law but you still see drivers negotiating traffic islands and hazards whilst chatting on them!.

at schools mobiles should be only allowed to be switched on during break times,the kids are there to learn and if they are busy txt ing on face they not going to learn and are disrupting the rest of the class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The world wasnt as evil back then....i for one am glad my daughter as her mobile phone at school,shes very responsible and respectful and knows not to use it in class..butu i know if i need to get in contact asap i can and vice versa"

The world wasn't evil? Your taking the piss surely? Ian Brady.(1960s)Fred West

(1970s) Peter Suttcliffe (1980s), Jon Venables & Robert Thompson (1990's) Ian Huntley (2002). Kids don't need phones within the school full stop locker as they arrive and collect when they leave and off at all times. A child who has it switched on in lessons should be punished.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont take the piss at all ...theres always been evil and as i said wasnt as evil....kids only ha e to step outside they get shot/ stabbed etc....and if having a mobile phone gives being a parent peace of mind knowing where ya kids are then im all for it....maybe we should punish the adults who should be working but are on phones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dont take the piss at all ...theres always been evil and as i said wasnt as evil....kids only ha e to step outside they get shot/ stabbed etc....and if having a mobile phone gives being a parent peace of mind knowing where ya kids are then im all for it....maybe we should punish the adults who should be working but are on phones"

Well I have never heard of a mobile phone stopping a bullet, preventing a mugging (although kids are mugged for them) or saving a child from being abducted. It worries me that some parents think a phone will keep a child safe as its not the case. The reference to adults and punishing them makes no sense at all in context to phones in schools though what made you say that in the context of the thread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You'd think that between a parent and a school that they'd be able to establish whether a child is actually in it or not, wouldn't you?

Here's how it works:

The school suspects the child isn't there (wierd to suspect it as either the kid is there or it isn't and a few simple checks before worrying the parent would establish that), at which point the school phones the parent, the parent says, check again cos I'd tell YOU if she/he was ill and wasn't coming today.

The school checks the child's lesson schedule for the approriate time and pops along to the class to see if the child is there (that simple check I mentiuned earlier).

None of this happens because the teachers are all too busy on their own mobile phones or arranging the round of industrial action to get themselves yet more pay for even less time actually teaching - how many teacher training days does a teacher need and why does it have to be on a school day? Why not half/end term?

So, considering all that, why does a child need a mobile phone in school.

ps. if a parent is that worried about their child arriving at school safely they'd take the kid there themselves cos if someone decides to abduct your child her mobile phone isn't going to be an effective weapon to fend her attacker off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe schools can get some sort of signal suppressor that kills the signals ??? im not tech enuff but if possible they cud simply switch it off during breaks and lunch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks for pointing out a phone canny stop a bullet.....im a single parent and like to know my daughters is safe at school and on the way home if i dont get a txt i would worry.....not apolgising for being a caring parent and if you read all of the thread adults have been mentioned ..ie teachers txting etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for pointing out a phone canny stop a bullet.....im a single parent and like to know my daughters is safe at school and on the way home if i dont get a txt i would worry.....not apolgising for being a caring parent and if you read all of the thread adults have been mentioned ..ie teachers txting etc"

Then take her there yourself, and collect her. That's the only way to be absolutely sure and worry-free.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thread is about phones IN schools not to and from so you really don't have a point there. It really sounds as though you are trying to justify your child having its phone on in a classroom so you can contact them during lessons. You might find your child learns more with one less distraction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would your 16 want you to take them to school??? Doubt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then take her there yourself, and collect her. That's the only way to be absolutely sure and worry-free."

I am in total agreement with that if you are unsure your child is going to school or isn't safe going to school the simple answer is to make sure they are accompanied by you or someone you trust.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As said earlier my daughter as respect and is responsible so wouldnt be on her phone...its on silent as atm we have a very ill relative and if i need to get incontact with her..ohh and btw my daughter is a straight A student and the only time id contact her is if there was a emergency.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would your 16 want you to take them to school??? Doubt it."

Drop them off nearby, that's what I'd do. My 14y/o lives with her mum down south so I have no control of how she gets to and from school, but as it's only an 800 metre walk and she crosses no roads at all to get there we don't worry about her. She meets friends along the way too. And yes, she's used her mobile in class and been daft enough to post a photo on FB, to which she was told that once more and she loses it. She's at school to learn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would your 16 want you to take them to school??? Doubt it."

At 16 a child can leave home, have a baby and should be self reliant! Are you an over protective parent that doesn't encourage independence? The way you were talking I thought your child was under 11.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And do not teachers work in school???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do i take it your not a parent....you know nothing how i raise my child and im not going to explain anything to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"maybe schools can get some sort of signal suppressor that kills the signals ??? im not tech enuff but if possible they cud simply switch it off during breaks and lunch."

Difficult one that as adults in the school grounds aren't subject to the same rules as children, plus it is diffult to supress a signal right up to the school's boundaries and no further, so nearby houses would be affected as well as businesses that rely on being contactable whilst mobile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The school boundary and affecting others a valid point...but surely any adult deemed at work in the play area shud not be using a fone and there for a reson....like child safty ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"maybe schools can get some sort of signal suppressor that kills the signals ??? im not tech enuff but if possible they cud simply switch it off during breaks and lunch.

No, commercially available jammers have been around for years and with careful antenna sighting can keep the signal blockage just to within the premises. The cell system signals are that strong that the impact of such a device is usually very localised anyway.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do i take it your not a parent....you know nothing how i raise my child and im not going to explain anything to you."

You take it wrong I am a parent but a responsible one who doesn't encourage my child to break rules. How you attempt to raise your child is your affair but as you brought her up in the thread and mentioned you contacted her in the middle of a lesson means people can reply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The school boundary and affecting others a valid point...but surely any adult deemed at work in the play area shud not be using a fone and there for a reson....like child safty ?"

Groundsmen. Cleaners. Maintenance men. Ok, they could use walkie talkies and many do so maybe that's not a good argument for a signal suppressor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do i take it your not a parent....you know nothing how i raise my child and im not going to explain anything to you.

He does have a point. She shouldn't have even answered her phone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The school boundary and affecting others a valid point...but surely any adult deemed at work in the play area shud not be using a fone and there for a reson....like child safty ?

Groundsmen. Cleaners. Maintenance men. Ok, they could use walkie talkies and many do so maybe that's not a good argument for a signal suppressor.

normal handheld radios and the like wouldn't be affected. It's a very targetted jammer.

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"maybe schools can get some sort of signal suppressor that kills the signals ??? im not tech enuff but if possible they cud simply switch it off during breaks and lunch.

Wolf

I stand corrected. The technology has moved on somewhat lol

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

(See my earlier post)

Our daughter is due to start senior school in september so has very recently started walking to school and back on her own.

Do I like her doing it, No!

Do I worry, Yes!

Deep down I know that a mobile isn't a magic wand or an effective weapon but it just makes me (and her) feel that little bit better.

It's not always just about being concerned about abductors, it's so if she is concerned or worried about anything she can ring and ask.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(See my earlier post)

Our daughter is due to start senior school in september so has very recently started walking to school and back on her own.

Do I like her doing it, No!

Do I worry, Yes!

Deep down I know that a mobile isn't a magic wand or an effective weapon but it just makes me (and her) feel that little bit better.

It's not always just about being concerned about abductors, it's so if she is concerned or worried about anything she can ring and ask."

I understand that. My daughter takes her phone too even though she knows if the school catch her using it in the school grounds she loses it until the next half term. They even have on their website that they categorically refuse to get involved with irate parents demanding their child's phone is returned. I've also told her that if it ever happens I'll cancel the contract that I'm paying even after she's got the phone back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"maybe schools can get some sort of signal suppressor that kills the signals ??? im not tech enuff but if possible they cud simply switch it off during breaks and lunch.

Wolf

I stand corrected. The technology has moved on somewhat lol

Well yeah... when you've got GSM, DCS/PCN, 3G and now potentially 4G signals to block it's getting to be a fairly involved device now, but not non-doable.

The alternative is a spoof cell that all the phones log onto, and it offers no connection out, unless it's a recognised identity - like staff phones. As it's the closest, they'll all log onto it... that'd be peaceful... lol

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do i take it your not a parent....you know nothing how i raise my child and im not going to explain anything to you.

So i take it im an irresponsible parent for contacting my daughter to inform her school seems to have misplaced her ..and school also asked if i could contact her...and previously said above we have a very ill family member so her and school know she can answer her phone wenever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(See my earlier post)

Our daughter is due to start senior school in september so has very recently started walking to school and back on her own.

Do I like her doing it, No!

Do I worry, Yes!

Deep down I know that a mobile isn't a magic wand or an effective weapon but it just makes me (and her) feel that little bit better.

It's not always just about being concerned about abductors, it's so if she is concerned or worried about anything she can ring and ask."

the bone of contention here tho is not about using them going to or coming from school ... it is about them being allowed to use them whilst in the classroom... and the answer from me is a definite no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well yeah... when you've got GSM, DCS/PCN, 3G and now potentially 4G signals to block it's getting to be a fairly involved device now, but not non-doable.

Wolf

Seems a no-brainer to me then. I wonder if anyone has had a word with the EA about this (spots business opportunity in the offing)

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple
over a year ago

Fareham

Pupils at my school are allowed to have mobile phones but they have to stay in their bags and are not permitted to be on show at any time in a lesson.

It's quite easy to see if someone is texting in a class - no matter how subtle they think they're being - and the penalty is to have to device confiscated. The only way to get it back is for a parent to pick it up from the Head teacher in person.

That seems to be enough of a deterrent - in my three years working there I've never had to confiscate a phone because a child has been using it in a lesson.

As for handing phones in then picking them up after school ... there are 2500 pupils at my school. Taking in, signing for, storing then returning that number of phones every day would be a logistical nightmare.

Despite what people may think, with the right rules in place and making sure they're enforced means kids having mobile phones with them in school really isn't a problem. Storm in a teacup springs to mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do i take it your not a parent....you know nothing how i raise my child and im not going to explain anything to you.

Is it your responsibility to check she is actually in the classroom she is supposed to be? NO that's the job of the school and they could have checked. Were you right to call her mid way through a lesson? Well you don't really need me to answer that do you. Most would have told the administrator in the school to do their job, check timetables and go and visuals look. Relying that someone is where they say they are is hopeful at best.

What astounds me is that you assumed your teenager would have their phone on in the middle of a lesson and says oh so much about teaching teenagers to respect school rules.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

(See my earlier post)

Our daughter is due to start senior school in september so has very recently started walking to school and back on her own.

Do I like her doing it, No!

Do I worry, Yes!

Deep down I know that a mobile isn't a magic wand or an effective weapon but it just makes me (and her) feel that little bit better.

It's not always just about being concerned about abductors, it's so if she is concerned or worried about anything she can ring and ask.

I also agree that they shouldn't be used in school. Like I mentioned in the first post.

Was just replying to part of Wishy's post about taking your children to school if you are that worried.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

(See my earlier post)

Our daughter is due to start senior school in september so has very recently started walking to school and back on her own.

Do I like her doing it, No!

Do I worry, Yes!

Deep down I know that a mobile isn't a magic wand or an effective weapon but it just makes me (and her) feel that little bit better.

It's not always just about being concerned about abductors, it's so if she is concerned or worried about anything she can ring and ask.

Her school also has a similar thing on their website.

She would also be in bother with us if she was found using it in school hours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did tell them to go look,but she was taken out of class to go along to a interview with ofsted by the deputy head as they are wanting feedback from the children.And once more FOR THE RECORD her phone is on silent as we have a very sick family member so yes i assume her phones on cos she was.told to leave it on.And also said previously she doesnt txt or ring in class its there for emergencies but you cleay seem to have taken it upon yourself to assume i have a disrespectful daughter and im a irresponsible parent for contacting her EVEN THOUGH SCHOOL TOLD ME TO....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I did tell them to go look,but she was taken out of class to go along to a interview with ofsted by the deputy head as they are wanting feedback from the children.And once more FOR THE RECORD her phone is on silent as we have a very sick family member so yes i assume her phones on cos she was.told to leave it on.And also said previously she doesnt txt or ring in class its there for emergencies but you cleay seem to have taken it upon yourself to assume i have a disrespectful daughter and im a irresponsible parent for contacting her EVEN THOUGH SCHOOL TOLD ME TO...."

My child is told to have the phone off in class as its respectful to do so and complies with the rules. If I need to contact them I contact the school and do not disturb the classroom. My farther is terminally ill but even so I would not be so presumptuous to think that we are a special case and exempt from the school rules.

As for contacting well the teacher who was supposed to be teaching her would have known where a child was if taken out of class. You seem intent on justifying that children should have phones on in classrooms for some reason, its a shame you do not give the teachers who are teaching your child the full respect they deserve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

AND ONE MORE TIME FOR THE RECORD SCHOOL TOLD ME TO RING........now will leave you to rant away as this irresponsible parent is off into the real world and help fight crime and for the record school ALLOWS phones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

parents managed perfectly well before they came along it amazes me how many parents feel the need to be in constant contact, we raised our boys to be independant and have the ability to think for themselves and not feel the need to inform us of their every move

our boys had to leave their phones at home we didn't allow them to take them to school in the first place, one of our lads got knocked off his bike one morning on route to school and someone else rang us to let us know which is generally normal practise in these situations surely it is rare for the victim to ring as they are busy being the victim its the good samaritan that stops to help that rings generally which again is usually past school age and surly if not then they could ask a passing adult to help and ring too could they not?

worked just fine for us their phones were recreational not needed during educational hours

i think the signal jamming would be an excellent idea as the neurotic parents would only encourage their kids to break the rules and take their phones if they were banned anyway so if signal is jammed no more issue, its the best solution all round surely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It may be a daft question but how many of you would be happy to have your child txting at the dinner table or in a restaurant? To me it's bad manners.

At school it's not just a distraction to your child but to those around them and it disrupts lessons. A ban on using them in schools is different to a ban on possessing them so your little darling can txt you when they arrive and when they leave.

I'd accept it as a sensible rule that makes your child's time in school more productive.

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

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In the future we will all have phones implanted in our heads so this question will be redundant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kids with mobiles is just another way of parents electronically tagging them!

I usually ask mine if he has his mum-tag before he goes out.

But no I don't see why they should have them on in school ...... not only will they sit texting each other they will play games on them and totally disregard the teachers.

My kids school they are allowed to carry them with no responsibility taken for their loss or damage from the school and they must be off during class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My kids school they are allowed to carry them with no responsibility taken for their loss or damage from the school and they must be off during class. "

Are they allowed to have them switched on in the classroom then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Listening to Radio and they are discussing whether they should be banned in schools, i dont think thats a bad idea.

What do you think?

Do you think there are places they should be banned?

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in our house

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

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the rot started when they allowed calculators into the classroom ... mobile phones are just an extension of that failure in society !

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

However did we manage to keep our kids safe before the invention of mobile phones?.....how on earth were their walks home from school free from danger?

Ban them

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