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"Which do prefer or both." The Clash, london calling still gets played, not nevermind the bollox | |||
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"Both....but I could quite happily forget about the clash after give em enough rope.." The album after that is their classic London Calling! | |||
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"Both....but I could quite happily forget about the clash after give em enough rope.. The album after that is their classic London Calling!" To be honest I don't think there's anything classic about it..I own a copy but rarely gets played.. | |||
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"Pistols all day. Clash were good but politically naive. " Are you suggesting that the pistols weren't? | |||
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"The clash. But just want to put it out there The Ruts were better then both " Yea they were very good | |||
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"Which do prefer or both." Both. Only seen the Sex Pistols though. | |||
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"Both. The Pistols were so influential but only around for one album. The Clash I love. My favourite album was Sandinista which is the album that just about everybody else hates! " The first two where the nuts after that I lost interest in them ... saw em in the give em enough rope tour | |||
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"If I had to choose, The Clash - they had so much more about them than just punk - The Pistols put punk in the headlines but were pretty much one album wonders - The Clash had so much more about them and developed in ways the Pistols never did " True but the Pistols defined the look and the sound of punk. Without them punk wouldn't even have the iconic imagery and sound that we know now and that defined that era that other bands, including The Clash, followed. Pretty much it wasn't the Pistols though. It was Johnny Rotten (Lydon) who was the inspiration for a generation, and generations to follow, he invented the look, the sneer, the vocal style, safety pins, etc and wrote those songs that shocked the nation and transformed youth at that time. And the work he did with PIL afterwards was truly groundbreaking. And underrated and under-appreciated. It inspired a whole new post-punk movement. He should be knighted for services to music. Such a shame he wrote "God save the Queen" | |||
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"If I had to choose, The Clash - they had so much more about them than just punk - The Pistols put punk in the headlines but were pretty much one album wonders - The Clash had so much more about them and developed in ways the Pistols never did True but the Pistols defined the look and the sound of punk. Without them punk wouldn't even have the iconic imagery and sound that we know now and that defined that era that other bands, including The Clash, followed. Pretty much it wasn't the Pistols though. It was Johnny Rotten (Lydon) who was the inspiration for a generation, and generations to follow, he invented the look, the sneer, the vocal style, safety pins, etc and wrote those songs that shocked the nation and transformed youth at that time. And the work he did with PIL afterwards was truly groundbreaking. And underrated and under-appreciated. It inspired a whole new post-punk movement. He should be knighted for services to music. Such a shame he wrote "God save the Queen" " Agree with much of that although truth be told The Pistols, The Clash AND The Damned (plus a few others) all had a hand in defining punk for what it was - none more than the others - I love John Lydon but I do think he likes to give himself a lot more credit than perhaps is reality although it's undeniable that he was a huge influence - I just think the likes of The Clash and The Damned (who were both going in parallel to The Pistols) just got on with it and largely ducked the headlines leaving the impression that the Pistols were leading the way on their own | |||
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"None" You have to pick one now you're on here | |||
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"None You have to pick one now you're on here " Who are they | |||
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"None You have to pick one now you're on here Who are they " Chocolate bars | |||
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"None You have to pick one now you're on here Who are they Chocolate bars " Yum x | |||
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"The Clash" The Twix | |||
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"The Clash The Twix" Curly Wurly was better | |||
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"Both, however I have to mention that without The Buzzcocks setting up a gig in Manchester at the lesser free trade hall it is debatable but we may not have had Joy Division who then became New Order, who basically funded the whole of factory and the Hacienda. The Smiths, Morrisey was at the gig. The Fall Mark E Smith was there Tony Wilson for all his faults what a guy and to me one of the most important men in music Paul Morley who wrote it all in NME Now if we add everyone to this gig who said they were there we’d fill the Lesser Free trade hall 70 or 80 times over Now this one gig is spoken about in the same regard as Woodstock, Live aid etc for its importance and influence. This gig took place in June 1976, and without it it is doubtful the whole Manchester music scene would have taken off. Just a thought " It's true Durutti Column were inspired there too, Martin Hannett was in the audience and, oh for fucks sake, Mick Hucknall also. I'll never forgive the Buzzcocks for that. | |||
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"Both, however I have to mention that without The Buzzcocks setting up a gig in Manchester at the lesser free trade hall it is debatable but we may not have had Joy Division who then became New Order, who basically funded the whole of factory and the Hacienda. The Smiths, Morrisey was at the gig. The Fall Mark E Smith was there Tony Wilson for all his faults what a guy and to me one of the most important men in music Paul Morley who wrote it all in NME Now if we add everyone to this gig who said they were there we’d fill the Lesser Free trade hall 70 or 80 times over Now this one gig is spoken about in the same regard as Woodstock, Live aid etc for its importance and influence. This gig took place in June 1976, and without it it is doubtful the whole Manchester music scene would have taken off. Just a thought It's true Durutti Column were inspired there too, Martin Hannett was in the audience and, oh for fucks sake, Mick Hucknall also. I'll never forgive the Buzzcocks for that. " I have met Mick Hucknall, along with quite a few others in my younger days in Manchester. He was a nice guy and he bought the beer. | |||
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"Both, however I have to mention that without The Buzzcocks setting up a gig in Manchester at the lesser free trade hall it is debatable but we may not have had Joy Division who then became New Order, who basically funded the whole of factory and the Hacienda. The Smiths, Morrisey was at the gig. The Fall Mark E Smith was there Tony Wilson for all his faults what a guy and to me one of the most important men in music Paul Morley who wrote it all in NME Now if we add everyone to this gig who said they were there we’d fill the Lesser Free trade hall 70 or 80 times over Now this one gig is spoken about in the same regard as Woodstock, Live aid etc for its importance and influence. This gig took place in June 1976, and without it it is doubtful the whole Manchester music scene would have taken off. Just a thought It's true Durutti Column were inspired there too, Martin Hannett was in the audience and, oh for fucks sake, Mick Hucknall also. I'll never forgive the Buzzcocks for that. I have met Mick Hucknall, along with quite a few others in my younger days in Manchester. He was a nice guy and he bought the beer. " I've stood in a urinal in Manchester with Mick Hucknall one side and Terry Christian the other. It wasn't a pleasant experience | |||
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"Both, however I have to mention that without The Buzzcocks setting up a gig in Manchester at the lesser free trade hall it is debatable but we may not have had Joy Division who then became New Order, who basically funded the whole of factory and the Hacienda. The Smiths, Morrisey was at the gig. The Fall Mark E Smith was there Tony Wilson for all his faults what a guy and to me one of the most important men in music Paul Morley who wrote it all in NME Now if we add everyone to this gig who said they were there we’d fill the Lesser Free trade hall 70 or 80 times over Now this one gig is spoken about in the same regard as Woodstock, Live aid etc for its importance and influence. This gig took place in June 1976, and without it it is doubtful the whole Manchester music scene would have taken off. Just a thought It's true Durutti Column were inspired there too, Martin Hannett was in the audience and, oh for fucks sake, Mick Hucknall also. I'll never forgive the Buzzcocks for that. I have met Mick Hucknall, along with quite a few others in my younger days in Manchester. He was a nice guy and he bought the beer. I've stood in a urinal in Manchester with Mick Hucknall one side and Terry Christian the other. It wasn't a pleasant experience " I won’t mention the people I’ve met in toilets but being in Manchester in the late 80s and 90w it’s surprising | |||
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"Both. The Pistols were so influential but only around for one album. The Clash I love. My favourite album was Sandinista which is the album that just about everybody else hates! " Worth all 6 sides just for Washington Bullets. | |||
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"Both, however I have to mention that without The Buzzcocks setting up a gig in Manchester at the lesser free trade hall it is debatable but we may not have had Joy Division who then became New Order, who basically funded the whole of factory and the Hacienda. The Smiths, Morrisey was at the gig. The Fall Mark E Smith was there Tony Wilson for all his faults what a guy and to me one of the most important men in music Paul Morley who wrote it all in NME Now if we add everyone to this gig who said they were there we’d fill the Lesser Free trade hall 70 or 80 times over Now this one gig is spoken about in the same regard as Woodstock, Live aid etc for its importance and influence. This gig took place in June 1976, and without it it is doubtful the whole Manchester music scene would have taken off. Just a thought " The movie 24 Hour Party People begins there. | |||
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"Both, however I have to mention that without The Buzzcocks setting up a gig in Manchester at the lesser free trade hall it is debatable but we may not have had Joy Division who then became New Order, who basically funded the whole of factory and the Hacienda. The Smiths, Morrisey was at the gig. The Fall Mark E Smith was there Tony Wilson for all his faults what a guy and to me one of the most important men in music Paul Morley who wrote it all in NME Now if we add everyone to this gig who said they were there we’d fill the Lesser Free trade hall 70 or 80 times over Now this one gig is spoken about in the same regard as Woodstock, Live aid etc for its importance and influence. This gig took place in June 1976, and without it it is doubtful the whole Manchester music scene would have taken off. Just a thought It's true Durutti Column were inspired there too, Martin Hannett was in the audience and, oh for fucks sake, Mick Hucknall also. I'll never forgive the Buzzcocks for that. I have met Mick Hucknall, along with quite a few others in my younger days in Manchester. He was a nice guy and he bought the beer. I've stood in a urinal in Manchester with Mick Hucknall one side and Terry Christian the other. It wasn't a pleasant experience " So who was bigger.?.come on you must have had a crafty look.. | |||
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"Clash really, love the first 2 albums, London Calling too many filler tracks, would be a good single album, as for Sandanista, keep revisiting every few years in the hope I am wrong, but no, still too long, too self-indulgent. For a blast of pure noise & energy, then the pistols hit the spot." Can't really disagree with that, the did to much boring rubbish.xxx | |||
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"The Sex Pistols came along and basically blew away all of the shite that was in the charts at the time. In the UK we were bombarded with disco music and it was dull dull dull. They couldn't play or sing but the music had balls and energy....." Pretty much the only two requirements I have in a band.... The Pistols are important in music history, but only because they were shamelessly plugged by McLaren who wanted the infamy and more people into his shop. Even Lydon twigged they were all being manipulated. The Clash could actually play, and had far more depth intellectually, and so they get my vote | |||
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"Which do prefer or both." The clash | |||
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"Which do prefer or both." Pistols never the Clash. T | |||
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"I prefer neither ew" "what is gained from this? Genuinely? " | |||
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"I prefer neither ew what is gained from this? Genuinely? " I’m glad you clocked what I was doing here. | |||
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"I’m glad you noticed that I noticed." Not going to derail further. But just look how silly my comments look in this thread? And I gained nothing from it. It wasn’t funny. Just really confused at the constant need to announce you don’t know someone or to hate on them when you’re not asked. Oh well. | |||
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"Which do prefer or both." Never Mind The Bollocks is a brilliant nihilistic statement, but they became panto after Rotten left. The Clash made more varied and interesting music and Strummer was a great lyricist. The Pistols had to implode, The Clash were always aiming outwards. Overall I prefer The Clash as a band overall, but NMTB is an essential record. | |||
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"Both sold out for money , crass is the true punk band" Yeah but look how that ended up Steve ignorant with his backing band performing the greatest hits of crass...you couldn't make it up.. | |||
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"Both sold out for money , crass is the true punk band Yeah but look how that ended up Steve ignorant with his backing band performing the greatest hits of crass...you couldn't make it up.. " I wonder what pennys takes on all that is ,didn't know that thought he just toured his own stuff | |||
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"For initial impact NMTB is hard to beat but overall catalogue The Clash are way ahead ??" What's nmtb? | |||
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"For initial impact NMTB is hard to beat but overall catalogue The Clash are way ahead ?? What's nmtb? " Never Mind the Bollocks. The opening bars of Pretty Vacant are the Pistols’ joker card I n any ‘who’s best’ debate. | |||
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"For initial impact NMTB is hard to beat but overall catalogue The Clash are way ahead ?? What's nmtb? Never Mind the Bollocks. The opening bars of Pretty Vacant are the Pistols’ joker card I n any ‘who’s best’ debate. " Me First and the Gimme Gimme Gimmes put it to great use too in one of their covers. | |||
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"Both sold out for money , crass is the true punk band" How did they sell out for money? I'm intrigued what that actually means. | |||
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"Lots of nonsense on this thread about both bands. They both appeal in different ways. The Clash were more cerebral and musically diverse and I'll always favour them over any other band...but when the opening bars of Anarchy in the UK or Pretty Vacant are played there's just nothing that comes close. The Pistols were more fun, The Clash though had a blueprint for life." Never mind the bollocks, it’s full of ballads & fun / entertaining. Some of the clash stuff really bored me | |||
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"Jones couldnt play on the bollocks they git a session player in …to give it grunt…. " Not true, Steve Jones played all the guitar parts and some bass parts - one of the tightest guitarists the producer ever worked with according to the Classic Albums documentary | |||
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