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"What happen using the NHS ?" 8 to 10 week waiting list to have it done on NHS..to be fair his toe was really bad but to justify that cost, robbing fuckers | |||
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"Stop whinging - go to live in Nigeria or Afganistan and see what kind of health care you'd get there! The NHS is over stretched - but at least it's there! Z" Its called freedom of speech so if i want to whinge i will | |||
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"Stop whinging - go to live in Nigeria or Afganistan and see what kind of health care you'd get there! The NHS is over stretched - but at least it's there! Z Its called freedom of speech so if i want to whinge i will" lol - of course that's your perogative - Z | |||
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"Stop whinging - go to live in Nigeria or Afganistan and see what kind of health care you'd get there! The NHS is over stretched - but at least it's there! Z" To be fair, Nigeria must be well expensive for medical treatment considering how many emails I get from there saying they need money for an operation. One poor bastard had his dad on a Russian space station and needed £10 million to get him back down! Defo puts £175 for an ingrown toenail into perspective!  | |||
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"Just had to pay £175 for my son to have an ingrown toenail removed, how can they justify that sort of price. we are being well and truly ripped off in this country" If you go private thats what you will have to pay. Nobody will make you pay maybe you should be thankful you can afford to pay it as I am sure there are many out there who couldn't and would have to wait for the NHS. | |||
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"Why do people keep going on about the NHS being free? It isn't free at all, you pay for it with your N.I. contribs, and over my working life to date I've paid in the region of £70k into the NHS. Given the choice I'd much rather shell out £175 for a gammy toe once in my life than be fleeced on an ongoing basis to pay for people who've never contributed a bloody penny into it! GRRRRR! "WELL SAID!!!!!!  | |||
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"Why do people keep going on about the NHS being free? It isn't free at all, you pay for it with your N.I. contribs, and over my working life to date I've paid in the region of £70k into the NHS. Given the choice I'd much rather shell out £175 for a gammy toe once in my life than be fleeced on an ongoing basis to pay for people who've never contributed a bloody penny into it! GRRRRR! "I see that £70k is being used over and over again the other day it was to pay for your pension | |||
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"Why do people keep going on about the NHS being free? It isn't free at all, you pay for it with your N.I. contribs, and over my working life to date I've paid in the region of £70k into the NHS. Given the choice I'd much rather shell out £175 for a gammy toe once in my life than be fleeced on an ongoing basis to pay for people who've never contributed a bloody penny into it! GRRRRR!
I see that £70k is being used over and over again the other day it was to pay for your pension "Oh do me a favour, like £70k would buy a decent pension anywhere these days. I told you, I have my pension arrangements already in place as I certainly don't plan on my future after working being subject to anything the govt decide to throw my way - or take back when it suits. | |||
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"Why do people keep going on about the NHS being free? It isn't free at all, you pay for it with your N.I. contribs, and over my working life to date I've paid in the region of £70k into the NHS. Given the choice I'd much rather shell out £175 for a gammy toe once in my life than be fleeced on an ongoing basis to pay for people who've never contributed a bloody penny into it! GRRRRR!
I see that £70k is being used over and over again the other day it was to pay for your pension
Oh do me a favour, like £70k would buy a decent pension anywhere these days. I told you, I have my pension arrangements already in place as I certainly don't plan on my future after working being subject to anything the govt decide to throw my way - or take back when it suits."Oh do me a favour lol - you can't have it all ways the other day you said you were going to draw your old age pension because you had conributed to it - now it seems that you are paying for everyone elses health care - but this is typical of the sweeping statements we seem to read on these forums all the time | |||
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"Oh do me a favour lol - you can't have it all ways the other day you said you were going to draw your old age pension because you had conributed to it - now it seems that you are paying for everyone elses health care - but this is typical of the sweeping statements we seem to read on these forums all the time "You have taken two separate discussions and somehow maneged to link them into one. The state pension (the one everyone gets if they pay 29 years worth of N.I. contribs) is one I will draw because I've paid for it, but £107.45 isn't going to give me a comfortable life after I've stopped working so I've done what millions of other people have done and got myself a decent pension arrangement elsewhere. I actually don't give a flying fig what happens to the state pension for the simple reason that it's worth sod all to anyone who wants some semblance of a life worth living, but, in answer to your post - when the time comes I'll try and tell them I don't want it but I'll bet there is no mechanism in place for people to pay it back (the same as the Winter Fuel Allowance). As for the NHS - I'd scrap it tomorrow if I could because those who are earning can divert their N.I. contribs into a decent healthcare insurance policy and those who aren't working won't have paid into anyway so their money won't be missed. The whole works on the presumption that 95% of people pay for it but only 5% of the people receive treatment on it (guesstimate so don't ask for figures, but please feel free to go and google them if you really want to know) As for how the poor are treated if they need healthcare, sure, they should be able to obtain healthcare when needed but only those who don't earn enough should get it for free (totally free, not some con that says you get free healthcare but you have to hand over 11% of your earnings to get it). It can be easily paid for out of the profits of the medical profession as they will most certainly retain a lot more of the money they would make than the govt seem to be able to keep a hold of. | |||
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"Why do people keep going on about the NHS being free? It isn't free at all, you pay for it with your N.I. contribs, and over my working life to date I've paid in the region of £70k into the NHS. Given the choice I'd much rather shell out £175 for a gammy toe once in my life than be fleeced on an ongoing basis to pay for people who've never contributed a bloody penny into it! GRRRRR! "Yes that's all very well at the moment, but what about in twenty or thirty years time? How will you feel about shelling out thousands for hip-replacements, knee replacements, kidney and heart operations and all the other medical treatment elderly people need to have? | |||
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"Oh do me a favour lol - you can't have it all ways the other day you said you were going to draw your old age pension because you had conributed to it - now it seems that you are paying for everyone elses health care - but this is typical of the sweeping statements we seem to read on these forums all the time
You have taken two separate discussions and somehow maneged to link them into one.
The state pension (the one everyone gets if they pay 29 years worth of N.I. contribs) is one I will draw because I've paid for it, but £107.45 isn't going to give me a comfortable life after I've stopped working so I've done what millions of other people have done and got myself a decent pension arrangement elsewhere. I actually don't give a flying fig what happens to the state pension for the simple reason that it's worth sod all to anyone who wants some semblance of a life worth living, but, in answer to your post - when the time comes I'll try and tell them I don't want it but I'll bet there is no mechanism in place for people to pay it back (the same as the Winter Fuel Allowance).
As for the NHS - I'd scrap it tomorrow if I could because those who are earning can divert their N.I. contribs into a decent healthcare insurance policy and those who aren't working won't have paid into anyway so their money won't be missed. The whole works on the presumption that 95% of people pay for it but only 5% of the people receive treatment on it (guesstimate so don't ask for figures, but please feel free to go and google them if you really want to know)
As for how the poor are treated if they need healthcare, sure, they should be able to obtain healthcare when needed but only those who don't earn enough should get it for free (totally free, not some con that says you get free healthcare but you have to hand over 11% of your earnings to get it).
It can be easily paid for out of the profits of the medical profession as they will most certainly retain a lot more of the money they would make than the govt seem to be able to keep a hold of."Tell my mother that a State Pension is worth 'sod all'. Without it, she'd be left with her Tescos pension of £30 a month. | |||
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"Wishy....that must be one hell of a private pension you have if you could afford to offer the government back your state pension....you dreaming again?" £400/m won't be worth sod all in 15 years time and even if it's inflation-linked it will still buy less that it can today given the way fuel and supermarkets seem to raise their prices above inflation. I prefer to put my money where I'll get a much better return and not have to rely on whatever Whitehall says is enough for me to live on. Siren also has her very good pension so we'll be ok, even without the £400/m x 2 that a state pension will provide. I just don't think it's prudent to think the state will look after me in retirement when I see it squandering the money I pump into while I'm working (regardless of which party is in power) | |||
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"Wishy....that must be one hell of a private pension you have if you could afford to offer the government back your state pension....you dreaming again?" It's the fact that he can pay for everyone elses health too - Im guessing about 5% of earners can be self sufficient, many people say they are so that they can call others scroungers - but Im sure I saw a documentry some time ago that calculated that a perso would need to be spending around £1700 a week tp provide all the benefits and services that they require from the state | |||
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"Tell my mother that a State Pension is worth 'sod all'. Without it, she'd be left with her Tescos pension of £30 a month." Your mother isn't my concern - she yours, maybe you should take care of her as she took care of you for the first 16 years of your life. If that sounds harsh, tough. Families are supposed to look out for each other, not piss off when you're old enough and leave the state to pick up the tab. This whole system is corrupt from top to bottom and it allows people to be swallowed up, churned around and spat out at the end - and all in the pursuit of whoever wants to be top dog at any given moment. If there wasn't so much reliance on the state we wouldn't be in the godawful mess we're in now. But hey, that's wonderful socialism for you. | |||
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"Wishy....that must be one hell of a private pension you have if you could afford to offer the government back your state pension....you dreaming again? It's the fact that he can pay for everyone elses health too - Im guessing about 5% of earners can be self sufficient, many people say they are so that they can call others scroungers - but Im sure I saw a documentry some time ago that calculated that a perso would need to be spending around £1700 a week tp provide all the benefits and services that they require from the state " If that was true then the state is subsidising the populace at a loss and needs to keep borrowing to pay for it. Basic economics. | |||
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"£70,000 into the NHS hhmmmmmm don't think so !!! all your NI contribtions go into the same pot as everyone else and then from that pot the money is split between the NHS,transport,pensions,defence, etc. Combined with income tax the anual tax bill is in the region of 250 billion. just needs someone to spend it wisely !!!!! "Best that no one ever votes Labour again then! | |||
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"Wishy....that must be one hell of a private pension you have if you could afford to offer the government back your state pension....you dreaming again? It's the fact that he can pay for everyone elses health too - Im guessing about 5% of earners can be self sufficient, many people say they are so that they can call others scroungers - but Im sure I saw a documentry some time ago that calculated that a perso would need to be spending around £1700 a week tp provide all the benefits and services that they require from the state If that was true then the state is subsidising the populace at a loss and needs to keep borrowing to pay for it. Basic economics." No it's about economy of scale and living as a society | |||
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"Tell my mother that a State Pension is worth 'sod all'. Without it, she'd be left with her Tescos pension of £30 a month. Your mother isn't my concern - she yours, maybe you should take care of her as she took care of you for the first 16 years of your life. If that sounds harsh, tough. Families are supposed to look out for each other, not piss off when you're old enough and leave the state to pick up the tab. This whole system is corrupt from top to bottom and it allows people to be swallowed up, churned around and spat out at the end - and all in the pursuit of whoever wants to be top dog at any given moment. If there wasn't so much reliance on the state we wouldn't be in the godawful mess we're in now. But hey, that's wonderful socialism for you." We don't live in a socialist society and never have. As I've said before, you clearly need to do a great deal of reading (of material other than the happily now defunct News of the World) if you're going to pontificate on subjects like this and expect to be taken seriously by people beyond your local pub. "A little knowledge is a dangerous friend". | |||
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"Tell my mother that a State Pension is worth 'sod all'. Without it, she'd be left with her Tescos pension of £30 a month. Your mother isn't my concern - she yours, maybe you should take care of her as she took care of you for the first 16 years of your life. If that sounds harsh, tough. Families are supposed to look out for each other, not piss off when you're old enough and leave the state to pick up the tab. This whole system is corrupt from top to bottom and it allows people to be swallowed up, churned around and spat out at the end - and all in the pursuit of whoever wants to be top dog at any given moment. If there wasn't so much reliance on the state we wouldn't be in the godawful mess we're in now. But hey, that's wonderful socialism for you. We don't live in a socialist society and never have. As I've said before, you clearly need to do a great deal of reading (of material other than the happily now defunct News of the World) if you're going to pontificate on subjects like this and expect to be taken seriously by people beyond your local pub. "A little knowledge is a dangerous friend". " Insult by assumption, and assumption being the mother of all fuck ups. Go figure.  | |||
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