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By *poolABC OP   Man
over a year ago

liverpool

Show us the best arse?

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Mine's ok x

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Here it is

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not the best but I’ll show you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My kind of thread..

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"It’s not the best but I’ll show you "

Made my mouth water!

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bravo OP! Thos is the best thread of the day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mines out there!

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By *B69Woman
over a year ago

Wiltshire

I will just sit on mine, not my best asset

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Bravo OP! Thos is the best thread of the day "

Erm! Wiggle Wednesday!! Any thread full of arse is surely up there!

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s not the best but I’ll show you

Made my mouth water!

D."

So did your pic. Even though it’s not you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mines ok I guess

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By *edHeadedFunWoman
over a year ago

Didsbury

It's not the best but always on show where possible

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"It’s not the best but I’ll show you

Made my mouth water!

D.

So did your pic. Even though it’s not you. "

tell me about it! With all these sexy arses I think I need a bib!

D.

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

Don't mind me - Just sat in my office perving for a time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine is out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine is out "
so is mine

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By *X Mr Kipling XxMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"Mine is out "

Can I place my hands on the cheeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will just sit on mine, not my best asset "

Hard to say without a proper picture. I'd better come and check..

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Bookmarking this page.

If any ladies want send privately please PM pics.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Mines not too shabby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mines not too shabby."
itsnot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine is out so is mine "

Yes I can quite Imagine

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Chunky's bum squeezing service is available.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine is out so is mine

Yes I can quite Imagine "

can't you see it woman, I'll take you to specsavers we can do some panic buying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do I save an entire thread?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like the one on the new photo list with the snow board

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

I'm not quite a lady but can I be in ?? Xx

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Do you need video evidence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you need video evidence? "
omg yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you need video evidence? "
i nearly chok#d on my bagel

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By *t3_jalapenoMan
over a year ago

darlo


"Mines ok I guess "

Better than ok

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Do you need video evidence? "

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mines ok I guess

Better than ok "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hippy wins...... cheeks down

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"Do you need video evidence?

D."

25th Feb...

Bugger wrong thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we voting some nice arse on view

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I've been told mine's OK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do as well foxy

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"Do you need video evidence? i nearly chok#d on my bagel "
Avoid...

Flipping hell, too many threads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you need video evidence? i nearly chok#d on my bagel Avoid...

Flipping hell, too many threads "

oi i looked omg

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Do you need video evidence?

D. 25th Feb...

Bugger wrong thread "

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hippy wins...... cheeks down "

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"hippy wins...... cheeks down

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later "

That is a really great pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are some extremely sexy asses on this thread, I could possibly pick a favourite so would just spank the lot of you

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"hippy wins...... cheeks down

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later

That is a really great pic "

And the same could be said about a few of your pics. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hippy wins...... cheeks down

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later "

can we do card payment its a lot more in keeping with the times....... touch

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"hippy wins...... cheeks down

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later

That is a really great pic

And the same could be said about a few of your pics. Xx"

Appreciated ...nuff love Chunky xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just put one to public

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire


"Just put one to public "

Can you put it on my desk too, please

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Just put one to public "

Fuck me sideways. Wow

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By *hortarseWoman
over a year ago

Norfolk

Getting mine out. It's my best side. I love it to be spanked

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Getting mine out. It's my best side. I love it to be spanked "

(raises hand)

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By *X Mr Kipling XxMan
over a year ago

Norwich


"Getting mine out. It's my best side. I love it to be spanked "

Oooo I will then

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Just put one to public "

Love ...love that pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hippy wins...... cheeks down

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later

That is a really great pic "

Thank you gorgeous

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Hello "

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s not the best but I’ll show you "
I think yours is great

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Just put one to public

Fuck me sideways. Wow "

You and me both

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

?

Miner's always out - I don't know about the best, but it does get a lot of compliments, and I've always got somewhere soft and comfy to sit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hippy wins...... cheeks down

Haha! Thanks Whistle

Pay you later

That is a really great pic

Thank you gorgeous "

Ooo another nice one

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By *rAndHisLilMissCouple
over a year ago

Gosport

I love lil miss's

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Just put one to public

Fuck me sideways. Wow

You and me both "

Now if I could just get you 2 ladies to sit on my lap (one leg each) I'd be a happy man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just put one to public

Can you put it on my desk too, please "

You are soooo lazy, typically wanting it all delivered make an effort I will see what I can do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just put one to public "
My god another nice bum just seen it on your profile mmm nice

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Miner's always out - I don't know about the best, but it does get a lot of compliments, and I've always got somewhere soft and comfy to sit "

It’s always out? I can’t say I’ve noticed Lily

D.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Miner's always out - I don't know about the best, but it does get a lot of compliments, and I've always got somewhere soft and comfy to sit "

It looks like a great bum. (squeeze)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just put one to public

Fuck me sideways. Wow "

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By *X Mr Kipling XxMan
over a year ago

Norwich

I've changed profile pic to blend in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just put one to public My god another nice bum just seen it on your profile mmm nice "

Thank you, glad you like but some credit to the phot Navylad71 Lol

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Just put one to public

Fuck me sideways. Wow

"

Tbh. You look amazing all over. X

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"Mine's ok x"
more than ok RR

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Mines OK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lustylor1990

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990 "

We really need the option to tag people into threads

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

I like mine

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Lustylor1990 "

Oh crikey yes.

Yours is pwoah too. X

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I like mine "

Me too. Especially the one I've just fabbed. Xxx

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

I LOVE THIS THREAD.

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming

Just scroll down to 20th and 21st of April pics...

Becky’s arse is amazing...

I’ve studied it closely..

J x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just put one to public

Fuck me sideways. Wow

Tbh. You look amazing all over. X"

Thank you, I try

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

Oh crikey yes.

Yours is pwoah too. X"

I give mine a 3 so its poooahhhhh lol

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Just scroll down to 20th and 21st of April pics...

Becky’s arse is amazing...

I’ve studied it closely..

J x"

Small and peachy.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Just scroll down to 20th and 21st of April pics...

Becky’s arse is amazing...

I’ve studied it closely..

J x"

20th great pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My ass!

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Lustylor1990

Oh crikey yes.

Yours is pwoah too. X

I give mine a 3 so its poooahhhhh lol "

I'd give you one. Every day.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Lustylor1990 "

She is one hot lady!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hydes bottom tastes Devine lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watching this thread and filling our hotlist! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!"

Runs off to call her to get her on this thread lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your mum.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!"

Another one on our list. Lol

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

Runs off to call her to get her on this thread lol "

It's a hi from me

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming


"Watching this thread and filling our hotlist! X"

Likewise..!

X

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By *ntrigued32Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Watching this thread and filling our hotlist! X"

D.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not the best but here you go it's on show for now

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming


"Just scroll down to 20th and 21st of April pics...

Becky’s arse is amazing...

I’ve studied it closely..

J x

20th great pic "

Thanks x

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Not the best but here you go it's on show for now "

Definitely worth a nice squeeze xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Joining

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Joining "

Always a very welcome sight

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight "

We are sharing aren't we??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we?? "

No room for being selfish

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we?? "

Yes, I think we are...I like your style

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish "

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

Yes, I think we are...I like your style "

The feeling is mutual my sexy friend xx

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By *adyA01Woman
over a year ago

Wellington

Not had any complaints yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!"

x

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

x "

Welcome to the party

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

Runs off to call her to get her on this thread lol "

Here lol....been summoned here by my little wifey...Now I'm off to blush....Oh and there's stunning lush tushys here that make mine look average x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

x

Welcome to the party "

Yours is hot too beautiful lady x

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Show us the best arse?"

The best arse? You mean ladies have more than one and keep one for best?

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By *ecky and justCouple
over a year ago

Godalming


"Joining "

Why hello...

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

x "

I'm in lust.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

x "

Tiny should introduce us. Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

Runs off to call her to get her on this thread lol

Here lol....been summoned here by my little wifey...Now I'm off to blush....Oh and there's stunning lush tushys here that make mine look average x "

Your not off anywhere I forbid it lol

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

x

Welcome to the party

Yours is hot too beautiful lady x "

Thank you...that made me smile x

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By *ememberTheNameMan
over a year ago

barnsley

Keeping an eye on this thread

I like a sexy bum

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

Runs off to call her to get her on this thread lol

Here lol....been summoned here by my little wifey...Now I'm off to blush....Oh and there's stunning lush tushys here that make mine look average x

Your not off anywhere I forbid it lol "

You tell her girl.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have far too many photos of mine on my profile. Feel free to take a look and judge for yourself.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I have far too many photos of mine on my profile. Feel free to take a look and judge for yourself."

No need to look any further.

That one in blue is perfect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lustylor1990

She is one hot lady!

x

Welcome to the party

Yours is hot too beautiful lady x "

What a very nice bum you have _usty

Between you and tiny that's a bum sandwich I'd love to put my head between lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us. "

Oorah!!

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!! "

Taxi for Chunky please

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By *pank5000Couple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Obviously I'm biased but I nominate my wife.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!!

Taxi for Chunky please "

Pick ne up en route

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being Brazilian means that I have the final say in the matter..please contact me direct so that I can judge you

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!!

Taxi for Chunky please

Pick ne up en route"

Definitely - you're my wingwoman.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!!

Taxi for Chunky please

Pick ne up en route

Definitely - you're my wingwoman. "

I got you covered

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!!

Taxi for Chunky please

Pick ne up en route

Definitely - you're my wingwoman.

I got you covered "

And we have plenty of time in the cab to have fun on the way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t know if mine is the best, probably not, but I like it

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I don’t know if mine is the best, probably not, but I like it "

A more revealing pic would be nice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know if mine is the best, probably not, but I like it "
yours is nearly the best check mine out

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!!

Taxi for Chunky please

Pick ne up en route

Definitely - you're my wingwoman.

I got you covered

And we have plenty of time in the cab to have fun on the way. "

Bonus xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being Brazilian means that I have the final say in the matter..please contact me direct so that I can judge you "

Sure come on a wee road trip my way, the sites are good

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By *rish CougarWoman
over a year ago

Bray

I like mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like mine "

Me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm quite partial to my ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a very round arse and love a good spanking xxx

Only just changed my pic so look in my photos if you want a perv lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like mine "
why?

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"I have far too many photos of mine on my profile. Feel free to take a look and judge for yourself."
can never have too many photos of that sexy bum of yours lola

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Joining

Always a very welcome sight

We are sharing aren't we??

No room for being selfish

I bloody hope not.

Please join us.

Oorah!!

Taxi for Chunky please

Pick ne up en route

Definitely - you're my wingwoman.

I got you covered

And we have plenty of time in the cab to have fun on the way.

Bonus xx"

I'll get a limo. More room to play. Xxx

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I have a very round arse and love a good spanking xxx

Only just changed my pic so look in my photos if you want a perv lol "

.

Very spankable.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

[Removed by poster at 18/03/20 15:40:31]

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I like mine "

What a coincidence - so do I.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have far too many photos of mine on my profile. Feel free to take a look and judge for yourself."

Wow! Absolutely amazing xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like mine "

So do we xx

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By *rish CougarWoman
over a year ago

Bray

Love yours you sexy thing xxxxx

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I like mine

So do we xx"

Your lady's arse is quite lovely.

Fucking awesome actually.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Love yours you sexy thing xxxxx "

Awww thanks

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By *ustyCouple
over a year ago

peterborough

I do get good comments on mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a very round arse and love a good spanking xxx

Only just changed my pic so look in my photos if you want a perv lol .

Very spankable. "

It is

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I have a very round arse and love a good spanking xxx

Only just changed my pic so look in my photos if you want a perv lol .

Very spankable.

It is "

It would be nice to be introduced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do get good comments on mine "

Well I would happily eat that x

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By *evil-AngelWoman
over a year ago

...

Mines out for wiggle Wednesday xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a very round arse and love a good spanking xxx

Only just changed my pic so look in my photos if you want a perv lol .

Very spankable.

It is

It would be nice to be introduced. "

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I have a very round arse and love a good spanking xxx

Only just changed my pic so look in my photos if you want a perv lol .

Very spankable.

It is

It would be nice to be introduced.

"

No need to be shy. I'll kiss it better afterwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amazing thread, worth comment here to follow the fab bums

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m all bummed out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mines ok I guess "

You guessed right

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Mines out for wiggle Wednesday xx"

Just wiggle next to me please xx

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By *rgoodnbadMan
over a year ago

greenock

Some nice cheeky peaches on here, keep it up girls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve put some pics of my bottom public

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

annies the winner

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

I dunno, it is a great pic but Lustylor1990 for me. I think I have a lady crush

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I dunno, it is a great pic but Lustylor1990 for me. I think I have a lady crush "

Im with you.

But I've been spoilt for amazing arses today..

Yours is still up on my list of favourites. You know that xxx

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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

Here's my best arse

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Here's my best arse "

Can I just give it one kiss??

Please xx

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By *ark ph0enixWoman
over a year ago

Teesside

Mine was up ready for today

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"Mine was up ready for today "

If I may. (squeeze)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am no longer feeling the love

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I am no longer feeling the love "

Why??

Your arse needs my caressing, but you won't let me. Pffffft

It's still fantastic though.

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By *evil-AngelWoman
over a year ago

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"Mines out for wiggle Wednesday xx

Just wiggle next to me please xx "

Wiggle wiggle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am no longer feeling the love

Why??

Your arse needs my caressing, but you won't let me. Pffffft

It's still fantastic though. "

I was having a bratty moment

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales


"annies the winner "

Loses points for asking for fabs

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