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"if you get the virus (after all they reckon at least 60% of us will) will you announce it on here if you go to clubs, will you alert the clubs that you have been are you going to send e-mail to any meets you would have had in at least the 14 day period...... just thinking out loud today... just because "none of your business" isn't really a right answer at the moment if the goal is to try and protect each other......." The only place I go socially is a club so yes, I would inform the club so they could take any steps required to keep as many people virus free as possible. I'd also want to know if another attendee came down with it so I could keep a closer eye out for symptoms. | |||
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"I think the bigger problem is that most who get it won't know for sure. If I have the basic symptoms, best self isolate but they won't test me. Do I notify everyone just in case it is Corvid-19 or not?" Yes, if you're showing the symptoms of it, not just cold symptoms but the persistent, dry cough and fever. | |||
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"if you get the virus (after all they reckon at least 60% of us will) will you announce it on here if you go to clubs, will you alert the clubs that you have been are you going to send e-mail to any meets you would have had in at least the 14 day period...... just thinking out loud today... just because "none of your business" isn't really a right answer at the moment if the goal is to try and protect each other......." To not announce that you have the Virus is irresponsible and defines the type of person that you are. | |||
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"I think the bigger problem is that most who get it won't know for sure. If I have the basic symptoms, best self isolate but they won't test me. Do I notify everyone just in case it is Corvid-19 or not? Yes, if you're showing the symptoms of it, not just cold symptoms but the persistent, dry cough and fever. " I agree actually, but I worry many may not or will misuse the system. To me testing is important. Those who are negative can return to work rather than waste 2 weeks off. | |||
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"I had a computer virus once, emailed everyone I knew to tell them. Didn’t go down well. For interest, how far are we off the normal death rate for every years viral flu?" No where near yet but there's a vaccine for flu. Thd lack of a vaccine is the worry given the rapid global spread. | |||
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"I think the bigger problem is that most who get it won't know for sure. If I have the basic symptoms, best self isolate but they won't test me. Do I notify everyone just in case it is Corvid-19 or not? Yes, if you're showing the symptoms of it, not just cold symptoms but the persistent, dry cough and fever. I agree actually, but I worry many may not or will misuse the system. To me testing is important. Those who are negative can return to work rather than waste 2 weeks off." I agree to a certain extent but people are taking the piss, they sneeze and call 111, expect to be tested and throw a paddy if they aren't, all it takes is abit of common sense and we can reduce the strain on the nhs massively. | |||
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"Why would you? You're meant to be self-isolating anyway, you shouldn't be in a club or on a meet while you are contagious." Problem is that you are contagious before the symptoms start. | |||
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"if you get the virus (after all they reckon at least 60% of us will) will you announce it on here if you go to clubs, will you alert the clubs that you have been are you going to send e-mail to any meets you would have had in at least the 14 day period...... just thinking out loud today... just because "none of your business" isn't really a right answer at the moment if the goal is to try and protect each other......." Is that what you do when you have a cold ? | |||
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"I would be totally upfront with anyone I had crossed paths with if I was a confirmed case. Can’t understand anyone that wouldn’t." this | |||
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"I had a computer virus once, emailed everyone I knew to tell them. Didn’t go down well. For interest, how far are we off the normal death rate for every years viral flu? No where near yet but there's a vaccine for flu. Thd lack of a vaccine is the worry given the rapid global spread. " There isn’t a vaccine for the flu. Experts to look at the flu development in Canada and Australia and predict an antibody for a predicted flu epidemic. They don’t look to China, if I remember rightly, that is where the worst genetic virus jumps are coming from at the moment. The chickens are too scared to ask. | |||
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"I had a computer virus once, emailed everyone I knew to tell them. Didn’t go down well. For interest, how far are we off the normal death rate for every years viral flu? No where near yet but there's a vaccine for flu. Thd lack of a vaccine is the worry given the rapid global spread. There isn’t a vaccine for the flu. Experts to look at the flu development in Canada and Australia and predict an antibody for a predicted flu epidemic. They don’t look to China, if I remember rightly, that is where the worst genetic virus jumps are coming from at the moment. The chickens are too scared to ask." Yes, there's a flu vaccine. Or more accurately several, since there are several strains. At risk groups are encouraged to be vaccinated each year against the ones currently doing the rounds. | |||
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"I had a computer virus once, emailed everyone I knew to tell them. Didn’t go down well. For interest, how far are we off the normal death rate for every years viral flu? No where near yet but there's a vaccine for flu. Thd lack of a vaccine is the worry given the rapid global spread. There isn’t a vaccine for the flu. Experts to look at the flu development in Canada and Australia and predict an antibody for a predicted flu epidemic. They don’t look to China, if I remember rightly, that is where the worst genetic virus jumps are coming from at the moment. The chickens are too scared to ask. Yes, there's a flu vaccine. Or more accurately several, since there are several strains. At risk groups are encouraged to be vaccinated each year against the ones currently doing the rounds." Yes, L has to have one every year. However the vaccine is purely a guess, from data from Canada and Australia. China never comes into the equation. | |||
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"When is the contagious period? Before you get the symptoms? During the symptoms? How do you know if you definetly have it? Serious questions." There is a small chance you can pass it on before you get symptoms but you are most contagious when you have the symptoms. | |||
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"I had a computer virus once, emailed everyone I knew to tell them. Didn’t go down well. For interest, how far are we off the normal death rate for every years viral flu?" About 30,000 deaths yearly from pneumonia after flu like symptoms I read. We should be in a panic like this every year really and trying to stop those deaths too. | |||
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"How many people caught it in wuhan, a city of 11 million?" Can't find data for the city itself, but the wider province of Hubei that Wuhan is in (data from Weds 11th March): In Hubei province, 67,781 cases, 3,056 deaths and 50,298 recoveries have been reported so far. | |||
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"The thing is most of the people who do get it will find it hard to determine if it's standard cold/cough symptoms or something worse. If I had those I wouldn't want to meet anyway. " Yes same here, I wouldn't meet anyone if I had a cold and I'd expect the same courtesy. | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. " So 3000 died in a region of 58 million people ? | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. So 3000 died in a region of 58 million people ?" I need more toilet roll | |||
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"In all reality they arent testing everyone with symptoms so you'll never be sure if it was a cold or covid-19 unless you need hospital treatment " True | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. So 3000 died in a region of 58 million people ?" Correct! | |||
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"i would do the right thing and contact everyone, but how would you know if you got the virus or not, they not testing for it now!!" Well you wouldn't know for sure but if you have a fever and a cough self isolate just in case. | |||
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"if you get the virus (after all they reckon at least 60% of us will) will you announce it on here if you go to clubs, will you alert the clubs that you have been are you going to send e-mail to any meets you would have had in at least the 14 day period...... just thinking out loud today... just because "none of your business" isn't really a right answer at the moment if the goal is to try and protect each other......." Its the responsible thing to do, and I don't want to be responsible for putting people through pain or stress x | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. So 3000 died in a region of 58 million people ? Correct! " Its not over yet more cases in China today. | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. So 3000 died in a region of 58 million people ? Correct! " But they literally imposed martial law and total lockdown. Won’t happen in the west so effect will be much more serious in terms of deaths. | |||
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"Common courtesy to advise anyone I’ve been in contact with, not just for their benefit but anyone who could be high risk." Who would you classify as "high risk"? | |||
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"if you get the virus (after all they reckon at least 60% of us will) will you announce it on here if you go to clubs, will you alert the clubs that you have been are you going to send e-mail to any meets you would have had in at least the 14 day period...... just thinking out loud today... just because "none of your business" isn't really a right answer at the moment if the goal is to try and protect each other......." Nothing to be ashamed of. Yeh,tell. Honesty the best policy. Swingers didn't invent the virus. Club swingers are the cleanest peeps around. They already have the right mindset in terms of preventing passing on deseases. The rest of the world should take a leaf out their book. | |||
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"Common courtesy to advise anyone I’ve been in contact with, not just for their benefit but anyone who could be high risk. Who would you classify as "high risk"?" Everyone is, and this touching elbows instead of handshakes it be more safer to use your cock or fanny to meet and fun. Lol Donald trump and Boris Johnson slapping there cocks together not a nice thought feel the love people x | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. " Did you get them figures from WHO website? When looking at data, you can take it face value as lots of factors are involved. Remember China has better medical resources, they went through very authoritarian and strict strategies to contain the virus. So looking at data alone isn't the best way to assess what issues were facing. One thing i do know about Asia, generally people's attitudes are very community based. My British friend is temporary living in Singapore. The country has much smaller population but live in quite crowded city like conditions with quite high percentage of people over 60. When the government noticed their numbers were climbing, they took fast action by developing an thermo scanner and tested EVERYONE during transition points like university, supermarkets. Gave excellent health care to anyone found to be infected. They kept their numbers to less than 300 and no deaths... | |||
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"we all tell each other we've had the flu virus so no difference really " I really don't think people do... Tell strangers that they were in the same room for more than 15 minutes, touching the same surfaces and not washing hands regularly (which i know for a fact people don't do it properly etc) then touching faces and maybe kissing if they had the flu which still can and does kill people. I visited Japan and can say our public hygiene isn't up to the standard it should be. | |||
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"When is the contagious period? Before you get the symptoms? During the symptoms? How do you know if you definetly have it? Serious questions. There is a small chance you can pass it on before you get symptoms but you are most contagious when you have the symptoms. " This is where I am today - due to some twat who decided it would be funny to email people on my friends list saying I am self isolating for corona - I have since hidden all veri in the last 12 months. I have not had symptoms since Thursday last week and that was a light cough, and the sore throat came Friday mornings. I am being precautionary and it could just be a cold or flu but I don’t know because I can’t get tested. Which is crazy. When is the time lines for getting it, when do we notify people - there is no guidance. The guidance says self isoloate - so that’s what I have done Do people tell me if they have a std scare or waiting for results - no the use a condom | |||
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"PS: Hubei province has over 58 million people in it. So 3000 died in a region of 58 million people ? Correct! But they literally imposed martial law and total lockdown. Won’t happen in the west so effect will be much more serious in terms of deaths." No total lockdown in the west ??. Do you not keep up with the news ? Is Italy in the west ?. Other countries about to go into lockdown ?. Borders closed?. No flights ? | |||
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"we all tell each other we've had the flu virus so no difference really I really don't think people do... Tell strangers that they were in the same room for more than 15 minutes, touching the same surfaces and not washing hands regularly (which i know for a fact people don't do it properly etc) then touching faces and maybe kissing if they had the flu which still can and does kill people. I visited Japan and can say our public hygiene isn't up to the standard it should be. " if the flu has been and gone and youre not at the stage where you might infect someone with the common flu no need to say really but if you have the symptoms then generally its pretty obvious and we do, everyones sense of hygiene is different and maybe the Japanese have exceptional hygiene practices i don't know not been, i rarely get colds even when in the company of those that do | |||
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