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"Beautiful pics x Haha thanks I realise now it seems like I’m canvassing for meets But I’m not meeting as I think it’s more responsible to socially distance yourself at the moment." I'm in Liverpool, you couldn't get more socially distant. And my hanglider is broke ... | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts " Do you think it’ll be cancelled? | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? " Bloody hope not! I've got an angel to snog | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? " Hoping to make this as well. Hope not | |||
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"Beautiful pics x Haha thanks I realise now it seems like I’m canvassing for meets But I’m not meeting as I think it’s more responsible to socially distance yourself at the moment." Just curious how long are you going to stay in total isolation for ? | |||
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"Beautiful pics x Haha thanks I realise now it seems like I’m canvassing for meets But I’m not meeting as I think it’s more responsible to socially distance yourself at the moment. Just curious how long are you going to stay in total isolation for ? " I’m not in isolation. I saw friends today and I’m still going to work. But I’m no longer going to a work do this week, or seeing my family (some of whom have health conditions) for Easter. I’ll probably do this until there is more clarity about what is safe. I am suspicious that our government is taking such a different approach to other countries. I don’t think I’m expert enough to know which way is right and I’d rather be cautious. | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? Hoping to make this as well. Hope not " I am also hoping to...forgotten though, when is it? | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it?" Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? Hoping to make this as well. Hope not " Yep. I’m going to be there too | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance " Eh, I’m not being this drastic. I think fab meets are a little different. Sanitising everything is one thing.... going to a meet to kiss etc strangers is another? These are just curious questions anyway, I don’t profess to know what the answers are! | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance " My opinion The current advice is about as effective as suggesting we have bare back sex but for no longer than a minute and wash our bits afterwards Something does not stack up | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance Eh, I’m not being this drastic. I think fab meets are a little different. Sanitising everything is one thing.... going to a meet to kiss etc strangers is another? These are just curious questions anyway, I don’t profess to know what the answers are!" Why are they Actually you do stand a greater chance of an std than the virus Our risk perceptions are twisted | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance Eh, I’m not being this drastic. I think fab meets are a little different. Sanitising everything is one thing.... going to a meet to kiss etc strangers is another? These are just curious questions anyway, I don’t profess to know what the answers are!" given that 80% of us are going to get it is it not better to get it sooner that later and isolate those at risk, whats your alternative hibernate for 3 months, most people can't work from home or in fact make a living pay bills etc so we all stay at home does it just vanish? live your life you really have no choice | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance Eh, I’m not being this drastic. I think fab meets are a little different. Sanitising everything is one thing.... going to a meet to kiss etc strangers is another? These are just curious questions anyway, I don’t profess to know what the answers are! Why are they Actually you do stand a greater chance of an std than the virus Our risk perceptions are twisted " Not sure how you know that when WHO and other organisations are struggling to work out the current epidemiology. You’re guessing. I would argue that a virus you can contract from standing in close proximity is more virulent than the STIs you can only contract through sexual inter course. Why are we so confident that all the other countries are wrong? Why do we think we won’t end up in the situation Italy is in? | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance Eh, I’m not being this drastic. I think fab meets are a little different. Sanitising everything is one thing.... going to a meet to kiss etc strangers is another? These are just curious questions anyway, I don’t profess to know what the answers are! Why are they Actually you do stand a greater chance of an std than the virus Our risk perceptions are twisted " Honestly I have zero idea I have no idea what we are supposed to be protecting ourselves from I suggest either it's bad thus we are all woefully not doing enough or ..... So what are we doing a fucking random arbitrary halfway house that's no where near effective if it's bad and desperate over kill if it's not Erm I have no idea but somethings odd | |||
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"Just gonna be devil’s advocate here... Do you have any reservations about gathering (and probably standing much closer than 2m ) given that other countries are locking down... Do we only change our behaviour when our government tells us, or do we think for ourselves about what we can do now to protect the vulnerable? Is meeting people off fab necessary, is it worth it? Do you think you will be able to keep yourself totally sterile from everything you touch that another has touched for the next ???? No shpping no going out no work ? Cleaning all post all food delivered ? Seeing no friends family because you CANNOT vouch for their vigilance Eh, I’m not being this drastic. I think fab meets are a little different. Sanitising everything is one thing.... going to a meet to kiss etc strangers is another? These are just curious questions anyway, I don’t profess to know what the answers are! Why are they Actually you do stand a greater chance of an std than the virus Our risk perceptions are twisted Not sure how you know that when WHO and other organisations are struggling to work out the current epidemiology. You’re guessing. I would argue that a virus you can contract from standing in close proximity is more virulent than the STIs you can only contract through sexual inter course. Why are we so confident that all the other countries are wrong? Why do we think we won’t end up in the situation Italy is in?" Exactly that my point your happy to meet with the risk of an std you absolutely do not protect yourself from herpes or spreading it or other oral transmitted nasties Yet something you can catch from work you choose to go to work see friends but not meet I'm not saying you're wrong I'm illustrating how it's all a bit twisted | |||
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"Still meeting?" given half a chance. Taking the advised precautions . But not giving up on life until told that we have to | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? Hoping to make this as well. Hope not I am also hoping to...forgotten though, when is it?" Next weekend. Looking forward to meeting you (hopefully) | |||
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"I will say however Perhaps, maybe perhaps if we do restrict human contact the inevitable spread will be slower and perhaps just perhaps this is the only benefit and a valid reason However world financial collapse which seems also to be inevitable had better be worth something At this point I'm not sure what " Saving lives? If the NHS is overwhelmed with a sudden surge in cases, people will die because there aren’t enough ventilators or NHS staff to cope. People will die just because of the timing. People who would have survived if they got sick a few weeks earlier or later, when the system wasn’t overwhelmed. | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over?" Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen " There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. | |||
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"I will say however Perhaps, maybe perhaps if we do restrict human contact the inevitable spread will be slower and perhaps just perhaps this is the only benefit and a valid reason However world financial collapse which seems also to be inevitable had better be worth something At this point I'm not sure what Saving lives? If the NHS is overwhelmed with a sudden surge in cases, people will die because there aren’t enough ventilators or NHS staff to cope. People will die just because of the timing. People who would have survived if they got sick a few weeks earlier or later, when the system wasn’t overwhelmed." Agreed maybe ask I acknowledged. Financial crises however also cause death | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy." It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV? | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV?" May I reiterate I do not think you wrong for not meeting I absolutely do not I just find the whole thing curious If its serious we are not being cautious enough no where near It's this idea if we do something we feel better and can cope Despite reality | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over?" Because it's virtually impossible to get a meet under normal circumstances so why not be open for meeting in these viral times and taking advantage of the reduced numbers prepared to meet? | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Because it's virtually impossible to get a meet under normal circumstances so why not be open for meeting in these viral times and taking advantage of the reduced numbers prepared to meet?" Haha, well, you’re entrepreneurial, I’ll give you that | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV?" Have you seen the exponential graphs of virus transmission in other countries? It’s been shown clearly in China and South Korea that social distancing and lock downs are curbing the incidence of the virus. We can see our future ahead of us, it’s happening in Italy, it was happening in China. People are dying. Why are we going to be any different? In fact, isn’t it obvious we will be worse (at least in the short term, the long term remains to be seen re herd immunity) because we aren’t taking the measures other countries have ... But people want to act like nothing is happening. What do you have to see to change your behaviour? People dying on trolling in NHS corridors? Bit late then... | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV? Have you seen the exponential graphs of virus transmission in other countries? It’s been shown clearly in China and South Korea that social distancing and lock downs are curbing the incidence of the virus. We can see our future ahead of us, it’s happening in Italy, it was happening in China. People are dying. Why are we going to be any different? In fact, isn’t it obvious we will be worse (at least in the short term, the long term remains to be seen re herd immunity) because we aren’t taking the measures other countries have ... But people want to act like nothing is happening. What do you have to see to change your behaviour? People dying on trolling in NHS corridors? Bit late then..." Ok let's be clear my opinion is If the virus is as described which I feel is plausible then Restricting meets is only a teeny almost insignificant step If you mean business an believe what you have just written which is plausible then do not go to work Do not go shopping Do not meet friends That's kinda my point tenth measures are not really significant Me I'm wearing gloves not touching anything another has touched or if its food washing the packaging Keeping huge distance from others And I think I'm only pretending as I'm sure I'm not doing enough to prevent contagion | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV? Have you seen the exponential graphs of virus transmission in other countries? It’s been shown clearly in China and South Korea that social distancing and lock downs are curbing the incidence of the virus. We can see our future ahead of us, it’s happening in Italy, it was happening in China. People are dying. Why are we going to be any different? In fact, isn’t it obvious we will be worse (at least in the short term, the long term remains to be seen re herd immunity) because we aren’t taking the measures other countries have ... But people want to act like nothing is happening. What do you have to see to change your behaviour? People dying on trolling in NHS corridors? Bit late then... Ok let's be clear my opinion is If the virus is as described which I feel is plausible then Restricting meets is only a teeny almost insignificant step If you mean business an believe what you have just written which is plausible then do not go to work Do not go shopping Do not meet friends That's kinda my point tenth measures are not really significant Me I'm wearing gloves not touching anything another has touched or if its food washing the packaging Keeping huge distance from others And I think I'm only pretending as I'm sure I'm not doing enough to prevent contagion " I have to go to work, I work in healthcare. I’ll be one of the people looking after the people we may be risking by meeting needlessly. | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV? Have you seen the exponential graphs of virus transmission in other countries? It’s been shown clearly in China and South Korea that social distancing and lock downs are curbing the incidence of the virus. We can see our future ahead of us, it’s happening in Italy, it was happening in China. People are dying. Why are we going to be any different? In fact, isn’t it obvious we will be worse (at least in the short term, the long term remains to be seen re herd immunity) because we aren’t taking the measures other countries have ... But people want to act like nothing is happening. What do you have to see to change your behaviour? People dying on trolling in NHS corridors? Bit late then... Ok let's be clear my opinion is If the virus is as described which I feel is plausible then Restricting meets is only a teeny almost insignificant step If you mean business an believe what you have just written which is plausible then do not go to work Do not go shopping Do not meet friends That's kinda my point tenth measures are not really significant Me I'm wearing gloves not touching anything another has touched or if its food washing the packaging Keeping huge distance from others And I think I'm only pretending as I'm sure I'm not doing enough to prevent contagion I have to go to work, I work in healthcare. I’ll be one of the people looking after the people we may be risking by meeting needlessly." So in reality you should go from work to home and see no one ! Or stay at work isolated you forgot to mention you are the high risk potential transmitter | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV? Have you seen the exponential graphs of virus transmission in other countries? It’s been shown clearly in China and South Korea that social distancing and lock downs are curbing the incidence of the virus. We can see our future ahead of us, it’s happening in Italy, it was happening in China. People are dying. Why are we going to be any different? In fact, isn’t it obvious we will be worse (at least in the short term, the long term remains to be seen re herd immunity) because we aren’t taking the measures other countries have ... But people want to act like nothing is happening. What do you have to see to change your behaviour? People dying on trolling in NHS corridors? Bit late then... Ok let's be clear my opinion is If the virus is as described which I feel is plausible then Restricting meets is only a teeny almost insignificant step If you mean business an believe what you have just written which is plausible then do not go to work Do not go shopping Do not meet friends That's kinda my point tenth measures are not really significant Me I'm wearing gloves not touching anything another has touched or if its food washing the packaging Keeping huge distance from others And I think I'm only pretending as I'm sure I'm not doing enough to prevent contagion I have to go to work, I work in healthcare. I’ll be one of the people looking after the people we may be risking by meeting needlessly. So in reality you should go from work to home and see no one ! Or stay at work isolated you forgot to mention you are the high risk potential transmitter" I’m following my employers advice. Not sure why you think you know better than they do. | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? Hoping to make this as well. Hope not I am also hoping to...forgotten though, when is it? Next weekend. Looking forward to meeting you (hopefully)" Most definitely, I'd really like that x | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? Hoping to make this as well. Hope not I am also hoping to...forgotten though, when is it? Next weekend. Looking forward to meeting you (hopefully) Most definitely, I'd really like that x" See you there , really hope it's not cancelled | |||
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"I don’t think anyone can answer these questions.... But why would you risk the worst case scenarios to get your leg over? Hiv many do You did Or do you think you are 100% safe from catching that ? Accidents happen There is not going to be a sudden surge in HIV cases that overwhelms the health system. It is not a valid analogy. It was a risk perception analogy It's unlikely you meeting will cause a surge Your point was is leg over worth X risk I illustrated we all take a life death risk every time we meet we know or perceive the risk low enough to take but the stakes are high I'd suggest the risk of you meeting a CV carrier atm to be about equal to meeting a HIV? Have you seen the exponential graphs of virus transmission in other countries? It’s been shown clearly in China and South Korea that social distancing and lock downs are curbing the incidence of the virus. We can see our future ahead of us, it’s happening in Italy, it was happening in China. People are dying. Why are we going to be any different? In fact, isn’t it obvious we will be worse (at least in the short term, the long term remains to be seen re herd immunity) because we aren’t taking the measures other countries have ... But people want to act like nothing is happening. What do you have to see to change your behaviour? People dying on trolling in NHS corridors? Bit late then... Ok let's be clear my opinion is If the virus is as described which I feel is plausible then Restricting meets is only a teeny almost insignificant step If you mean business an believe what you have just written which is plausible then do not go to work Do not go shopping Do not meet friends That's kinda my point tenth measures are not really significant Me I'm wearing gloves not touching anything another has touched or if its food washing the packaging Keeping huge distance from others And I think I'm only pretending as I'm sure I'm not doing enough to prevent contagion I have to go to work, I work in healthcare. I’ll be one of the people looking after the people we may be risking by meeting needlessly. So in reality you should go from work to home and see no one ! Or stay at work isolated you forgot to mention you are the high risk potential transmitter I’m following my employers advice. Not sure why you think you know better than they do." And their advice is ?? | |||
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"Would you meet someone if they had a stinking cold or normal flu? If people aren't showing signs, meet up, have a coffee, knock elbows, take each others temperature, rubber up and crack on " Not sure that's wise its reasonable to suspect that contagion happens before symptoms? | |||
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"Would you meet someone if they had a stinking cold or normal flu? If people aren't showing signs, meet up, have a coffee, knock elbows, take each others temperature, rubber up and crack on Not sure that's wise its reasonable to suspect that contagion happens before symptoms? " So with that theory you should never meet anyone in case they have something but no symptoms? | |||
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"I'm going to Birmingham for a social event if that counts Do you think it’ll be cancelled? Hoping to make this as well. Hope not I am also hoping to...forgotten though, when is it? Next weekend. Looking forward to meeting you (hopefully) Most definitely, I'd really like that x See you there , really hope it's not cancelled " Let's hope not and have a great night x | |||
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"Would you meet someone if they had a stinking cold or normal flu? If people aren't showing signs, meet up, have a coffee, knock elbows, take each others temperature, rubber up and crack on Not sure that's wise its reasonable to suspect that contagion happens before symptoms? So with that theory you should never meet anyone in case they have something but no symptoms? " Depends If the virus is nasty and you want to prevent its spread then absolutely not If it's the normal flu then why not At the moment I have no idea which it is thus think option a is wise as long as that no contact rule is not just meets but everyone and that everyone adheres to it else your prob right its futile | |||
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"Would you meet someone if they had a stinking cold or normal flu? If people aren't showing signs, meet up, have a coffee, knock elbows, take each others temperature, rubber up and crack on Not sure that's wise its reasonable to suspect that contagion happens before symptoms? So with that theory you should never meet anyone in case they have something but no symptoms? Depends If the virus is nasty and you want to prevent its spread then absolutely not If it's the normal flu then why not At the moment I have no idea which it is thus think option a is wise as long as that no contact rule is not just meets but everyone and that everyone adheres to it else your prob right its futile " However if it's as nasty as suggested then I would think all health professionals should isolate from the population as a sensible precaution As they are the most likely to come into regular contact thus the most likely contaminating factors even if only carriers | |||
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"Still meeting?" Im free in the week. Thanks for asking. | |||
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