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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

When pulling away aftet ive left the car for an hour or two, the brake shoes stick on and I have to pull away with a small amount of effort to get the shoe free, with bang noise. Today there was a bang noise accompanied by a spring making a twang noise.

This used to be a problem in the wet, but does it all the time now.

Is it something that is normal or does it warrant a garage visit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get to the garage! Doesnt sound very good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does your handbrake feel normal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seized caliper maybe?

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Sounds as if you may need new brake pads and discs probably only need a new brake pads but it sounds as if you warm them away that badly it's damaged discs...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Does your handbrake feel normal? "

Yes, just when pulling away. Thanks for the replies, I'll call the garage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ad above seized caliper it need stripping down cleaning and re greasing, happens all the time in winter especially on my car as it only really goes anywhere at weekends, if you take it to a garage and they charge you for a new one insist on seeing the one they took off, its common for some garages to just clean them up and bill you for a new one, actually any part that gets replaced at a garage you should ask to see the old parts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When pulling away aftet ive left the car for an hour or two, the brake shoes stick on and I have to pull away with a small amount of effort to get the shoe free, with bang noise. Today there was a bang noise accompanied by a spring making a twang noise.

This used to be a problem in the wet, but does it all the time now.

Is it something that is normal or does it warrant a garage visit? "
is it a skoda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This used to be a problem in the wet, but does it all the time now.

Is it something that is normal or does it warrant a garage visit? "

A good rule of thumb is, if the brakes aren't working properly, take it to a garage.

They won't magically fix themselves

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

If you don't use the car very often the brakes will stick on, but they should release immediately with a little lunge (only way I can think of describing it) when you pull away.

They should be fine after that but if it persists get assistance. Brakes are a very important part of a vehicle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Get to the garage! Doesnt sound very good"

Either that or cut a big hole in the floor and wear stout shoes.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Sounds like the handbrake to me.

I presume it's still stopping OK when driving & not pulling to one side under braking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the brakes are binding whilst driving then it's the caliper sliders that need cleaning and greasing, if they're fine after the clunky then it's the handbrake pivot arm that's sticking on (the little pivot point that the handbrake cable attaches to) 2 man job unfortunately to free that off as you ideally need someone to work the handbrake while you pry it back to the open position and blather it with penetrating fluid (ooh err missus) when they release the lever until it become free enough to easily release by itself, then cake it grease to protect it from the road salt, boring tedious general maintenance job.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sounds like the handbrake to me.

I presume it's still stopping OK when driving & not pulling to one side under braking? "

No its all fine, just the shoes stick to the drums when i take the handbrake off.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"Sounds like the handbrake to me.

I presume it's still stopping OK when driving & not pulling to one side under braking?

No its all fine, just the shoes stick to the drums when i take the handbrake off. "

It's probably the solenoid then.

Easy fix if you don't want the garage costs.

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By *ruebameMan
over a year ago

from the womb and tryout to get back

Not sure if this has been asked but make of car would be good as some handbrakes have there own shoes so could be that you have drum and disk brakes to the rear pads may look find but you wont be able to look at shoes until it's been stripped down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Possibly the hand brake actuating lever starting to seize up in the brake setup...

can I ask what car it is???

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By *innocentMan
over a year ago

Littlehampton

why is everyone talking about brakes or calipers ????

BRAKES AND CALIPERS DO NOT ENGAGE WHEN THE VEHICLE IS PARKED.

It is the handbrake seizing.

The twang noise is the cable being damaged completely or becoming loose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless like a Landrover Freelander, the mechanism seizes up, and needs stipping down, working loose, lubricating and refitting...

Sorry I'm a mechanic with 30yrs experience in Land Rover, VW Audi and JUST this week set up my own garage

so - depending on what car it is.... some have EPB systems where the calipers tend to crack if not worked on correctly and water gets into the mechanism causing the sticking...

could be anything... but we are all guessing until we know what car the OP has.

- I really REALLY apologise if this reply appears to be a rant... it isn't meant that way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just get it checked properly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just get it checked properly."

Agreed!

If I was local - I would do it for the OP!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

Going only by what you have described in your initial post, I would suspect that you have drum brakes and that something may have dislodged on the handbrake mechanism, which may be jamming the mechanism, causing problems disengaging the handbrake.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at.

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By *riskygazMan
over a year ago

birmingham

your brake shoes are probably completely worn-out, and now slowly falling apart from overheating if they are now down to the metal. best get them looked at ASAP

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at."

Yes its drum brakes on the rear. 08 plate polo. Today it was worse and heard the spring twang when i pulled away, as the dhoes released. To be on the safe side I'm taking it in tomorrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seized caliper maybe?"

Probably this .. are your disks red hot when you stop....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"your brake shoes are probably completely worn-out, and now slowly falling apart from overheating if they are now down to the metal. best get them looked at ASAP "

you've all convinced me, brakes are one thing i don't want going wrong

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By *hongman1Man
over a year ago

Mansfield

"Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at.

Yes its drum brakes on the rear. 08 plate polo. Today it was worse and heard the spring twang when i pulled away, as the dhoes released. To be on the safe side I'm taking it in tomorrow. "

Probably no meat left on the shoes, so metal on metal gets extremely hot and they’re sticking on, essentially welding together and you’re “snapping” them off when you pull away

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Seized caliper maybe?

Probably this .. are your disks red hot when you stop...."

No, i washed it today and no steam off the wheels olus tested it with my hand carefully.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A bang bang with a twang! Sounds serious! Has someone planted a bomb on your car???

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at.

Yes its drum brakes on the rear. 08 plate polo. Today it was worse and heard the spring twang when i pulled away, as the dhoes released. To be on the safe side I'm taking it in tomorrow. "

Here's my take

No one here knows

It does not sound a positive noise

Investigation IS required

Who does it is up to you . You(depending on skil) a person you trust a recommended garage

However if your asking the obvious on an internet sex site I do suggest you're not the one to investigate

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By *hongman1Man
over a year ago

Mansfield

"Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at.

Yes its drum brakes on the rear. 08 plate polo. Today it was worse and heard the spring twang when i pulled away, as the dhoes released. To be on the safe side I'm taking it in tomorrow.

Here's my take

No one here knows

It does not sound a positive noise

Investigation IS required

Who does it is up to you . You(depending on skil) a person you trust a recommended garage

However if your asking the obvious on an internet sex site I do suggest you're not the one to investigate

No one here knows? You mean you don’t know?

I’ve seen a fair amount of sensible suggestions based on not being able to hear or see it for themselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This used to be a problem in the wet, but does it all the time now.

Is it something that is normal or does it warrant a garage visit? "

Front or back . Do you had an Electric hand brake or manual?

Sounds like it’s a hand brake sticking on.

If it’s the front you prob have no brake linnings left . Squeal when stopping .

The minimum it could be is your not letting and electric hand brake full release before moving.

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

Same problem with my 03 golf mk4 if I don't use it for a week or so. Rear shoes stick on with the handbrake & then let go when you pull away then fine until next time. If I use it more often, it doesn't happen. The twang isn't normal though. That would make me investigate further.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Could it be your discs are so worn the calliper is sticking to it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could it be your discs are so worn the calliper is sticking to it ? "

We've established that the problem is affecting his rear drum brakes

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

This used to be a problem in the wet, but does it all the time now.

Is it something that is normal or does it warrant a garage visit? "

With brakes (hydraulic systems) it’s safety first, it does sound like the hydraulic unit that pushes the brake shoes on or callipers, is not returning. Thus seized..

I strongly suggest you go to a reputable garage and get this sorted

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at.

Yes its drum brakes on the rear. 08 plate polo. Today it was worse and heard the spring twang when i pulled away, as the dhoes released. To be on the safe side I'm taking it in tomorrow.

Here's my take

No one here knows

It does not sound a positive noise

Investigation IS required

Who does it is up to you . You(depending on skil) a person you trust a recommended garage

However if your asking the obvious on an internet sex site I do suggest you're not the one to investigate

No one here knows? You mean you don’t know?

I’ve seen a fair amount of sensible suggestions based on not being able to hear or see it for themselves "

Knows the word is "knows"

Without investing no one "knows" what the noise is

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Firstly let's establish if we're talking about shoes or pads because this might be confusing the issue.

Brake shoes are used in Drum brakes, which aren't used on anywhere near as many cars as they used to be, and on those cars that still do have them, they're only ever fitted on the rear.

Pads are used in Caliper set ups.

So, now we've got that out of the way, are we talking about a problem at the front or the rear of the car.

You mention a twanging, spring noise, which would suggest that it's a problem affecting your rear brakes.

Brake drums have a number of springs in them as part of the handbrake mechanism - but this won't be relevant if your car has discs on the rear.

It could even be a case of simply requiring adjustment.

You do need to get it looked at.

Yes its drum brakes on the rear. 08 plate polo. Today it was worse and heard the spring twang when i pulled away, as the dhoes released. To be on the safe side I'm taking it in tomorrow.

Here's my take

No one here knows

It does not sound a positive noise

Investigation IS required

Who does it is up to you . You(depending on skil) a person you trust a recommended garage

However if your asking the obvious on an internet sex site I do suggest you're not the one to investigate

No one here knows? You mean you don’t know?

I’ve seen a fair amount of sensible suggestions based on not being able to hear or see it for themselves

Knows the word is "knows"

Without investing no one "knows" what the noise is

Lots of guesses some I'm sure are correct however competent investigation is the only advice to be given based upon what we all "know"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely on the handbrake side of things rather than the foot brake.

There are basically two types of brake, a drum or a disc. Some discs have an internal drum for the hand brake.

The noise you described sounds like the shoes sticking to a drum and one of the retaining clips breaking.

Without knowing the specifics of your car, I wouldn’t want to guess whether the foot brake is in a serviceable condition.

What I will say is that it’s not in a roadworthy condition and you would be in deep shit if you are involved in an accident and it comes out that you have faulty brakes.

If you can’t afford a garage then at least get someone who knows a bit about cars to have a look. Brakes are not rocket science to work on, they’re actually very basic, but also very important.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Definitely on the handbrake side of things rather than the foot brake.

There are basically two types of brake, a drum or a disc. Some discs have an internal drum for the hand brake.

The noise you described sounds like the shoes sticking to a drum and one of the retaining clips breaking.

Without knowing the specifics of your car, I wouldn’t want to guess whether the foot brake is in a serviceable condition.

What I will say is that it’s not in a roadworthy condition and you would be in deep shit if you are involved in an accident and it comes out that you have faulty brakes.

If you can’t afford a garage then at least get someone who knows a bit about cars to have a look. Brakes are not rocket science to work on, they’re actually very basic, but also very important."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Update : fixed

New shoes, springs cylinders.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"Update : fixed

New shoes, springs cylinders.

Well done. Was the Handbrake then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Update : fixed

New shoes, springs cylinders.

Well done. Was the Handbrake then? "

Yep. Works great now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The other day I got in my car and it caught fire, made a springing twangy noise, all the wheels fell off and then the radio stopped working.

.....is this normal and should I go to a garage?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The other day I got in my car and it caught fire, made a springing twangy noise, all the wheels fell off and then the radio stopped working.

.....is this normal and should I go to a garage?

Nah!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like the handbrake is sticking, does it do it if you don't use the handbrake and leave it in gear ?

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

"The other day I got in my car and it caught fire, made a springing twangy noise, all the wheels fell off and then the radio stopped working.

.....is this normal and should I go to a garage?

No, back to the circus.

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By *xccvvMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire North East

Just sen all sorted

Bit of advice, and this is for many makes and models

Leave car in gear, not hand brake, if you can

Especially in winter months

Hand brakes can freeze, and stick in the cold, and also just stick in summer months

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sounds like the handbrake is sticking, does it do it if you don't use the handbrake and leave it in gear ? "

No it didn't, i used to do whst you said if I'd be driving in the rain. All fixed now

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just sen all sorted

Bit of advice, and this is for many makes and models

Leave car in gear, not hand brake, if you can

Especially in winter months

Hand brakes can freeze, and stick in the cold, and also just stick in summer months"

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