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" The only people who should isolate are the ones that are susceptible and with on going health issues. A vast majority will have no problem with it if they contracted it. We should just get on with our lives and stop being so bloody ridiculous. " Common sense at last | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " And is that a bad thing ? | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there " No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " If every single workplace does this every time someone there merely visits an area where there is a positive result there'll be not one single workplace open in the UK within a month. Except the odd lighthouse keeper, but seeing as how every boat will be anchored half a mile off the coast they ironically will have one of the most useless jobs going... B | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems " Usually the barebackers | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems " Luckily no one from my work or circle of people are or have been abroad since it started. So as long as I keep up my handwashing and toilet paper using self, I'll be fine | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems Usually the barebackers" I don't agree with this | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems Usually the barebackers" That's a really cheap shot! | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems " You should be protecting yourself, not expecting others to do it for you. If you are fearful then self isolate until it passes. I for one will continue to go to work and shopping. Until the government say they will give me full pay, not ssp for the duration I will continue as normal | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems Usually the barebackers I don't agree with this " Show me a barebacker and I will show you a risk taker.. Show me a risk taker and I will show you someone who does not wash their hands.. Show me a barebacker and I will show you a selfish fucker.. Show me a selfish fucker and I will show you a person who does not care about anyone else's health.. | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems You should be protecting yourself, not expecting others to do it for you. If you are fearful then self isolate until it passes. I for one will continue to go to work and shopping. Until the government say they will give me full pay, not ssp for the duration I will continue as normal " Self Self Self.. | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems Usually the barebackers I don't agree with this Show me a barebacker and I will show you a risk taker.. Show me a risk taker and I will show you someone who does not wash their hands.. Show me a barebacker and I will show you a selfish fucker.. Show me a selfish fucker and I will show you a person who does not care about anyone else's health.. " why is a bare backer selfish, their choice and your choice to fuck them and use a condom or not? You think self isolating is that simple for some people without real sick pay! Rent, kids, food,.the risk of eviction, all that shit. Because they may or may not know someone who knows someone who's high risk. | |||
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" The only people who should isolate are the ones that are susceptible and with on going health issues. A vast majority will have no problem with it if they contracted it. We should just get on with our lives and stop being so bloody ridiculous. " So you don't give a shit about passing it on to people who are susceptible to having health conditions, just so you can carry on living your life? How caring of you! I believe in carrying on as normal as well, but who knows of my health conditions or of my dad who has recently gone through chemo and radiation? Do they not deem any thought? | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " We have had no confirmed cases where I work but a local gym has had confirmed case, so anyone that has attended that said gym is not allowed in work. | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " Nice little rest for you then OP. | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems You should be protecting yourself, not expecting others to do it for you. If you are fearful then self isolate until it passes. I for one will continue to go to work and shopping. Until the government say they will give me full pay, not ssp for the duration I will continue as normal " Cheap shot and you know it! I am not panicking and adhering to the advise, I have been given! | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems You should be protecting yourself, not expecting others to do it for you. If you are fearful then self isolate until it passes. I for one will continue to go to work and shopping. Until the government say they will give me full pay, not ssp for the duration I will continue as normal Self Self Self.." It must be lonely in that high horse | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems " It isn't an immediate death sentence to anyone who has asthma. Honestly, these assumptions and false stories are causing all the panic buying which is more detrimental to the vulnerable people than the fecking virus. | |||
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"Do you still get full pay if you are sent home?" No you don't..well unless your work provides sick pay..lots do not and therefore it will be statutory sick pay, which is not a lot | |||
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" The only people who should isolate are the ones that are susceptible and with on going health issues. A vast majority will have no problem with it if they contracted it. We should just get on with our lives and stop being so bloody ridiculous. " What's ridiculous is people only thinking of themselves! We all have a responsibility to help stop the spread. | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems Usually the barebackers I don't agree with this Show me a barebacker and I will show you a risk taker.. Show me a risk taker and I will show you someone who does not wash their hands.. Show me a barebacker and I will show you a selfish fucker.. Show me a selfish fucker and I will show you a person who does not care about anyone else's health.. why is a bare backer selfish, their choice and your choice to fuck them and use a condom or not? You think self isolating is that simple for some people without real sick pay! Rent, kids, food,.the risk of eviction, all that shit. Because they may or may not know someone who knows someone who's high risk. " Hang on. I'm in the high risk group and I still have all the same responsibilities as you do. So I should stay at home! We all have a responsibility to stop the spread, if we don't all start taking the advice given and be responsible the government will step in and inforce it. | |||
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"I have to say, I give up on this thread, far too many selfish people, I honestly find shocking! " I couldn't agree more. They won't have this attitude when it effects them and their loved ones. | |||
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"I am all for following guide lines, showing caring and compassion and that extends to those who really can't afford to self isolate through no fault of there own." And I don't want to do that either but also I don't want to die or be responsible for someone else's death because Iv but my needs before everyone else's. We are all going to have make sort term sacrifices and do our best to help contain this so normal service can resume. | |||
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"So what should I do with all the bog roll I bought and hoarded?!! Lol " Give it a way to those who need it. | |||
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"I am all for following guide lines, showing caring and compassion and that extends to those who really can't afford to self isolate through no fault of there own. And I don't want to do that either but also I don't want to die or be responsible for someone else's death because Iv but my needs before everyone else's. We are all going to have make sort term sacrifices and do our best to help contain this so normal service can resume. " I really can't imagine anyone wants to harm others. So companies/ government pay people their wage if this enforced isolation. People are struggling in more ways than one. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks." Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems It isn't an immediate death sentence to anyone who has asthma. Honestly, these assumptions and false stories are causing all the panic buying which is more detrimental to the vulnerable people than the fecking virus. " So are you medically guaranteeing me, that by having asthma does not put me in a higher category? Thanks, I will rest easy now that a fab member has told me that! | |||
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"So what should I do with all the bog roll I bought and hoarded?!! Lol Give it a way to those who need it." Oh crap! Lol | |||
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"I am all for following guide lines, showing caring and compassion and that extends to those who really can't afford to self isolate through no fault of there own. And I don't want to do that either but also I don't want to die or be responsible for someone else's death because Iv but my needs before everyone else's. We are all going to have make sort term sacrifices and do our best to help contain this so normal service can resume. I really can't imagine anyone wants to harm others. So companies/ government pay people their wage if this enforced isolation. People are struggling in more ways than one. " I totally get that but what other option do we have? This is going to be tough but we will get through this. All we can do is look after ourselves and eachother. We can't just let this virus take hold. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas." No harm in buying extra gas and electric for the meter, or buy a little more frozen foods, but i am referring to the ones buying 10 packs of loo roll and 20 packs of pasta. Just no need. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas." So what do we do? Let people die? | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems It isn't an immediate death sentence to anyone who has asthma. Honestly, these assumptions and false stories are causing all the panic buying which is more detrimental to the vulnerable people than the fecking virus. So are you medically guaranteeing me, that by having asthma does not put me in a higher category? Thanks, I will rest easy now that a fab member has told me that! " Way to twist what I said. I didn't say it doesn't put you in a higher risk category, I said it isn't an automatic death sentence. Don't twist my words please. | |||
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"Do you still get full pay if you are sent home? No you don't..well unless your work provides sick pay..lots do not and therefore it will be statutory sick pay, which is not a lot" Well no one should be forced to go home at that then unless it's confirmed that they have the virus. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. So what do we do? Let people die? " No, not at all, just don't be to quick to bash others and give them a fair chance to help themselves and the population | |||
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"What about the elderly etc who need carers coming in to see them and so forth? They just get left to die whilst everyone totally overreacts and locks themselves away over media panic? No way. The media should be ashamed " Agreed, they had nothing to push once Brexit was sorted, surprised they aren’t walking around wearing billboards saying the end is nigh. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. So what do we do? Let people die? No, not at all, just don't be to quick to bash others and give them a fair chance to help themselves and the population " I'm not but bashing anyone. How am I stopping anyone helping themselves? | |||
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"Personally I think the 2 week isolation is idiotic. Firstly, the virus is not going to disappear within the next 2 weeks. Secondly, say I work in a big department, Bill has just come back from Italy and feels a bit dodgy, so we should all self-isolate for 2 weeks? On the 15th day I get the all clear and go back to my department, during my break I go to the McDonald's next door share the same space as Enrique, who is just back from visiting relatives in Mexico, he has the virus, I now have the virus, I walk back into my department and everyone gets the virus. So there was no point in me taking the 2 weeks off. Get the vaccine sorted, give it to the vulnerable first, and let's crack on " | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. So what do we do? Let people die? No, not at all, just don't be to quick to bash others and give them a fair chance to help themselves and the population I'm not but bashing anyone. How am I stopping anyone helping themselves? " I didn't mean you Lorna but you asked the Quesrion | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. So what do we do? Let people die? No, not at all, just don't be to quick to bash others and give them a fair chance to help themselves and the population I'm not but bashing anyone. How am I stopping anyone helping themselves? I didn't mean you Lorna but you asked the Quesrion" Ok lovely. I get we are coming from different sides. All we can do is take the advice given and hope it passes soon. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. So what do we do? Let people die? No, not at all, just don't be to quick to bash others and give them a fair chance to help themselves and the population I'm not but bashing anyone. How am I stopping anyone helping themselves? I didn't mean you Lorna but you asked the Quesrion Ok lovely. I get we are coming from different sides. All we can do is take the advice given and hope it passes soon. " I really hope so too...truly x | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " Jealous! I have dozens of unread books, loads of un watched box sets and 24 toilet rolls. I’d love me some self isolation right now! | |||
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"We had booked (and paid for) a trip to Rome for the 6N game on Saturday. Due to fly out at 08:30 this morning. After the match was postponed we tried to cancel our trip but were told it wasn't refundable as the travel advice to Rome was 'safe'. As the week went on we got more & more concerned, as of 9pm last night we were packed & ready to go*, then we got the news about the nationwide lockdown & an hour later the FCO confirmed the ban. So, we get our money back - but it was a close run thing. There's probably been 20'000+ people in a similar boat, many of whom will have cancelled before the ban & lost all their money. *We had both privately decided not to take the trip before the news came through." I doubt i get reinbursed for possible cancel flight to Romania if uk becomes high risk country. As the plane can still fly. Just romania wont let people from high risk country in or held in 14 days quarentine. I'm only going there for 3 nights so i be forced to not go with no compensation | |||
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"We had booked (and paid for) a trip to Rome for the 6N game on Saturday. Due to fly out at 08:30 this morning. After the match was postponed we tried to cancel our trip but were told it wasn't refundable as the travel advice to Rome was 'safe'. As the week went on we got more & more concerned, as of 9pm last night we were packed & ready to go*, then we got the news about the nationwide lockdown & an hour later the FCO confirmed the ban. So, we get our money back - but it was a close run thing. There's probably been 20'000+ people in a similar boat, many of whom will have cancelled before the ban & lost all their money. *We had both privately decided not to take the trip before the news came through. I doubt i get reinbursed for possible cancel flight to Romania if uk becomes high risk country. As the plane can still fly. Just romania wont let people from high risk country in or held in 14 days quarentine. I'm only going there for 3 nights so i be forced to not go with no compensation " Until it became clear Sunday/Monday exactly how seriously the Italians were taking it, we were stubbornly going to fly. So glad we didn't now. | |||
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"We had booked (and paid for) a trip to Rome for the 6N game on Saturday. Due to fly out at 08:30 this morning. After the match was postponed we tried to cancel our trip but were told it wasn't refundable as the travel advice to Rome was 'safe'. As the week went on we got more & more concerned, as of 9pm last night we were packed & ready to go*, then we got the news about the nationwide lockdown & an hour later the FCO confirmed the ban. So, we get our money back - but it was a close run thing. There's probably been 20'000+ people in a similar boat, many of whom will have cancelled before the ban & lost all their money. *We had both privately decided not to take the trip before the news came through. I doubt i get reinbursed for possible cancel flight to Romania if uk becomes high risk country. As the plane can still fly. Just romania wont let people from high risk country in or held in 14 days quarentine. I'm only going there for 3 nights so i be forced to not go with no compensation " When I sorted out our travel insurance the other day I was told you will get money back if government advise is not travel even if there are still flights. | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " I can bring down some corona make you feel better. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas." There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !!" How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? | |||
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"Personally I think the 2 week isolation is idiotic. Firstly, the virus is not going to disappear within the next 2 weeks. Secondly, say I work in a big department, Bill has just come back from Italy and feels a bit dodgy, so we should all self-isolate for 2 weeks? On the 15th day I get the all clear and go back to my department, during my break I go to the McDonald's next door share the same space as Enrique, who is just back from visiting relatives in Mexico, he has the virus, I now have the virus, I walk back into my department and everyone gets the virus. So there was no point in me taking the 2 weeks off. Get the vaccine sorted, give it to the vulnerable first, and let's crack on " Why do so many people think they know better than the professionals who work in health care? And there isn't going to be a vaccine anytime soon. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined?" Friends/family? | |||
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"You can't stop the spread, the government are just trying to slow it down as much as possible to give the Health Service the best chance of dealing with it. Don't forget they are always 2 weeks behind the actual number of cases due to how long it takes to manifest. I am lucky and can work remotely from home for a while if I have to. But a lot of people can't and can not survive on ssp for 2 weeks. I don't blame them for wanting to continue working and providing for their families if they aren't sure if it is they have. Their family is their priority." They wont be saying their family is their priority when they infect them? | |||
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"On the flip side I found out tonight that as of Friday Night I'm going to be part of a skeleton crew going into lockdown at work for 3 weeks. .. no one coming into site...no one leaving. Unless any of us get sick then the whole crew leave and get replaced by reserve team. Nice renumeration package plus all meals provided.... Kerching Downside is I've had to cancel a group meet for next week and can't go to Milf Club on 25th " So they keeping you at work ? And telling you you cant go on a meet .... I smell bull there | |||
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"On the flip side I found out tonight that as of Friday Night I'm going to be part of a skeleton crew going into lockdown at work for 3 weeks. .. no one coming into site...no one leaving. Unless any of us get sick then the whole crew leave and get replaced by reserve team. Nice renumeration package plus all meals provided.... Kerching Downside is I've had to cancel a group meet for next week and can't go to Milf Club on 25th So they keeping you at work ? And telling you you cant go on a meet .... I smell bull there " No bull... it's voluntary hence the big pay raise for the duration... none of us to leave for 3 weeks. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? Friends/family? " Some people do not have family or friends to call upon. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? Friends/family? " I suppose, yes, then they leave it at your doorstep. Never thouhht of that. | |||
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"I think it’s safe to say that we can all see this is a situation where our government need to step in and bring in new legislation to help curb the spread of the virus. Many many people will go against advice because of their employers policies. They may only get ssp while off work, bills and rent etc will not be covered by that. They need to ensure that people will get full pay if they have to be off work. Also, most businesses have a robust absence policy which may see people facing disciplinary action if they’re off work because of this virus. In my opinion the government need to legislate against this so that it encourages people to follow advice and take the time off work that is currently recommended" I think that would leave the door wide open for lazy people who would say they had the virus just to get the paid time off work. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? Friends/family? I suppose, yes, then they leave it at your doorstep. Never thouhht of that." Ever thought who’s going to stock or supply the food banks, how if we are all in isolation? | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? Friends/family? I suppose, yes, then they leave it at your doorstep. Never thouhht of that. Ever thought who’s going to stock or supply the food banks, how if we are all in isolation?" Good point. Thankfully I domt think it will come to complete isolation. Its neither practical or sensible. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? Friends/family? I suppose, yes, then they leave it at your doorstep. Never thouhht of that. Ever thought who’s going to stock or supply the food banks, how if we are all in isolation? Good point. Thankfully I domt think it will come to complete isolation. Its neither practical or sensible." That is a good point and aa food banks rely on donations and there are shortages in the shops..who will stock them | |||
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"I say better safe than sorry! I have asthma, if someone came in to my work who is a high risk, I would go ape shit! same here, no hope for us if we get it is there No there isn't and THAT is what scares me! People NOT thinking about other people's possible health problems You should be protecting yourself, not expecting others to do it for you. If you are fearful then self isolate until it passes. I for one will continue to go to work and shopping. Until the government say they will give me full pay, not ssp for the duration I will continue as normal Self Self Self.." Weren't you the one who said he would break the cordon if the government imposed a quarantine?! Who were you thinking of then? You don't half post some tripe then forget what you said just to be 'controversial' | |||
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"I think it’s safe to say that we can all see this is a situation where our government need to step in and bring in new legislation to help curb the spread of the virus. Many many people will go against advice because of their employers policies. They may only get ssp while off work, bills and rent etc will not be covered by that. They need to ensure that people will get full pay if they have to be off work. Also, most businesses have a robust absence policy which may see people facing disciplinary action if they’re off work because of this virus. In my opinion the government need to legislate against this so that it encourages people to follow advice and take the time off work that is currently recommended" I doubt very much that any employer would impose disciplinary action against those told to self isolate. It would be a difficult position to defend. | |||
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"I think it’s safe to say that we can all see this is a situation where our government need to step in and bring in new legislation to help curb the spread of the virus. Many many people will go against advice because of their employers policies. They may only get ssp while off work, bills and rent etc will not be covered by that. They need to ensure that people will get full pay if they have to be off work. Also, most businesses have a robust absence policy which may see people facing disciplinary action if they’re off work because of this virus. In my opinion the government need to legislate against this so that it encourages people to follow advice and take the time off work that is currently recommended I think that would leave the door wide open for lazy people who would say they had the virus just to get the paid time off work." I understand where you’re coming from but unless something like that is implemented, people WILL NOT follow guidance and stay at home. I have had flu like symptoms for a week, a high temperature, a dry cough and breathing issues. I have not called 111 or stayed at home because if I miss work I will face disciplinary action at work! Instead, I’m out delivering the mail on a route that takes in 1200 properties. On this route is an old folks complex in which I have to deliver to each individual flat. Considering this, I really should be following guidance but if I do, I may be putting my job at risk! | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " Lucky you! | |||
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"I think it’s safe to say that we can all see this is a situation where our government need to step in and bring in new legislation to help curb the spread of the virus. Many many people will go against advice because of their employers policies. They may only get ssp while off work, bills and rent etc will not be covered by that. They need to ensure that people will get full pay if they have to be off work. Also, most businesses have a robust absence policy which may see people facing disciplinary action if they’re off work because of this virus. In my opinion the government need to legislate against this so that it encourages people to follow advice and take the time off work that is currently recommended I doubt very much that any employer would impose disciplinary action against those told to self isolate. It would be a difficult position to defend. " Royal Mail already have one confirmed case in their employees. Our union have already stated that the business will still implement absence policy for employees affected by covid19 | |||
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"I think it’s safe to say that we can all see this is a situation where our government need to step in and bring in new legislation to help curb the spread of the virus. Many many people will go against advice because of their employers policies. They may only get ssp while off work, bills and rent etc will not be covered by that. They need to ensure that people will get full pay if they have to be off work. Also, most businesses have a robust absence policy which may see people facing disciplinary action if they’re off work because of this virus. In my opinion the government need to legislate against this so that it encourages people to follow advice and take the time off work that is currently recommended I think that would leave the door wide open for lazy people who would say they had the virus just to get the paid time off work. I understand where you’re coming from but unless something like that is implemented, people WILL NOT follow guidance and stay at home. I have had flu like symptoms for a week, a high temperature, a dry cough and breathing issues. I have not called 111 or stayed at home because if I miss work I will face disciplinary action at work! Instead, I’m out delivering the mail on a route that takes in 1200 properties. On this route is an old folks complex in which I have to deliver to each individual flat. Considering this, I really should be following guidance but if I do, I may be putting my job at risk!" Really? | |||
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"Without knowing the size of the company the OP works for and merely assuming it to be of a decent size I think it likely that the OP's employers responded over-zealously as in the immediate, with the identified infected level where it is now, they will take a hit of being effectively closed possibly completely unnecessarily for 12 days rather than the massively less possible hit of being a dozen or more staff members short in a week or so repeated over a period of a few months, as the former is something they can cope with, the latter they would have extreme difficulty with. It's a calculated risk so they're always likely to err on the side that they know they can handle even if the risks are extremely low. The question is, will companies continue to do this when the infection level rises significantly, which it is almost certain to do so? As using those guidelines in 3 weeks time, ie; sending home all staff for 2 weeks if their workforce contains anyone who had visited an area with a high infection rate (bear in mind that in 3 weeks time places such as London, Liverpool, Manchester, et al may well be considered highly infected) would quite possibly result in practically the entire country being shut down, all businesses, learning institutions, public transport, etc for a period of weeks. This does to some degree explain the level of panicking stockpilers ridiculously hoarding toilet rolls as if every business is shut, with all foodstuffs under lock and key and no way of laying your mitts on it, people are going to go hungry...However for one, you can't eat the humble bog roll and there's things far more essential to life than that. Also while I think it likely that either an authority run service would spring up distributing supplies to many in the UK, I think it more likely in the long term the rules would be relaxed about attending work when some staff were ill or visitors to another highly infected area unless you were seriously affected by the virus. If we followed Italy's suit then mortgage payments could well be deferred for a month or two which would keep roofs over heads at least, though unless a "Free food/drinks/etc to all" policy suddenly materialises those who rely on their wages in the immediate to eat (probably around a good 15-20% of households at a conservative estimate) would in effect be starving themselves to help prevent the spread of infection to the vulnerable 0.1-3%. I also think it highly unlikely that a astily organised protective suit clad brigade could distribute food and all essential supplies, 3 meals a day etc to all of some 60 million people in anything like a regular and effective way. It is therefore much more easily workable if and when this takes proper hold to provide a service of such a nature to the isolated and most vulnerable 0.1-3% that self-quarantine. B" Total sense | |||
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"I think it’s safe to say that we can all see this is a situation where our government need to step in and bring in new legislation to help curb the spread of the virus. Many many people will go against advice because of their employers policies. They may only get ssp while off work, bills and rent etc will not be covered by that. They need to ensure that people will get full pay if they have to be off work. Also, most businesses have a robust absence policy which may see people facing disciplinary action if they’re off work because of this virus. In my opinion the government need to legislate against this so that it encourages people to follow advice and take the time off work that is currently recommended I doubt very much that any employer would impose disciplinary action against those told to self isolate. It would be a difficult position to defend. Royal Mail already have one confirmed case in their employees. Our union have already stated that the business will still implement absence policy for employees affected by covid19" The first thing you should do is get tested for it, if the test is positive then you will get a notice stating you have to self isolate, I'm fairly sure you wouldn't get a disciplinary if you have official documentation stating you cannot work. | |||
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" The only people who should isolate are the ones that are susceptible and with on going health issues. A vast majority will have no problem with it if they contracted it. We should just get on with our lives and stop being so bloody ridiculous. Common sense at last " Not really. You need to consider those around you - if you go to work while a carrier, you could kill a vulnerable colleague by passing on the infection. | |||
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"I’ve read a few of the posts above suggesting we are overreacting and we should just get on with it. How many of those posters also complain when someone comes to work with a cold and gives it to everyone else? This is exactly the same, but with the added excitement that some of your less robust colleagues might not recover. Think about that for a moment." This | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks. Tell that to the kids when they've got no food or electric or gas. There is more and more help going around now, banks are deferring mortgages for 3 months allowing extra credit the government is allowing ssp from day 1 of sickness/quarantine and there are always food banks and other ways of surviving but putting other ppls health at risk because your too busy looking after your own is what caused this virus to spread at the rate it is !! How could you get to a food bank if you were quarantined? Friends/family? I suppose, yes, then they leave it at your doorstep. Never thouhht of that. Ever thought who’s going to stock or supply the food banks, how if we are all in isolation? Good point. Thankfully I domt think it will come to complete isolation. Its neither practical or sensible. That is a good point and aa food banks rely on donations and there are shortages in the shops..who will stock them " I'm certain IF it ever got to that stage government army etc have procedures in place ready for this sort of thing | |||
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"...because a colleague visited an event in the US where someone tested positive for covid-19. Not allowed back to the office until 23rd March. Bonkers " As someone who has respiratory illnesses I hope my work would do this | |||
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"I’ve read a few of the posts above suggesting we are overreacting and we should just get on with it. How many of those posters also complain when someone comes to work with a cold and gives it to everyone else? This is exactly the same, but with the added excitement that some of your less robust colleagues might not recover. Think about that for a moment." Exactly this | |||
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"I’ve read a few of the posts above suggesting we are overreacting and we should just get on with it. How many of those posters also complain when someone comes to work with a cold and gives it to everyone else? This is exactly the same, but with the added excitement that some of your less robust colleagues might not recover. Think about that for a moment." Getting on with it is all you can do. I will follow all the advice given to me by experts but until then I'm continuing as i usually do. I'm sole carer for my mother who is in the high risk group due to health reasons so I understand the fear people have, I just don't see the need to panic and act irrationally. | |||
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"People panic buying and the ones with the "it doesnt effect the healthy ones" are incredibly selfish. All ok until it gets your nan, or a child who is already fighting cancer hey. It is not being blown out of proportion, it is called helping the vulnerable even if it means we have to isolate for a while. There are worse things than staying home for a few weeks." | |||
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