FabSwingers.com forum: Joe Marler Alun Wyn Jones penis grab

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour."

Maybe he wasn’t comfortable having his willy fondled by another bloke.

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By *irestorm 500Couple
over a year ago

coventry

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208. "

I thought it was hilarious and so did the panel in the studio, no one seemed to mind him saying it,people should take it as a joke as it was meant.

And yes he should face a ban would we be happy with some one grabbing us if we didn't give permission, x storm x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour."

Nah. If that was a male doing it to a woman there would be uproar!

I've played rugby and get the banter, but on a world stage? What a prat, and it was done to provoke not for laughs.

And that's regardless of team, country or sport.

England were the better team, but they certainly let themselves down in certain areas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In this day and age, absolutely ridiculous move from Marler. Fucking idiot!

I hope he’s made an example of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Nah. If that was a male doing it to a woman there would be uproar!

I've played rugby and get the banter, but on a world stage? What a prat, and it was done to provoke not for laughs.

And that's regardless of team, country or sport.

England were the better team, but they certainly let themselves down in certain areas."

That’s why men and women don’t mix on the pitch in rugby.

It’s just another example of people being outraged for other people because that’s how they think they should act.

I’ve had similar things done to me and I’ve also done similar things.

Getting ‘pork chopped’ in the showers is much worse.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208. "

Who what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208.

Who what?"

Google either of those names, it’ll come up x

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

It's a professional sport and that's considered unprofessional behaviour, end of story.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208.

Who what?

Google either of those names, it’ll come up x"

OK x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A simple public apology from marler should be the end of it.

Although I do think he’s a complete prick in general anyway, the stupid interviews and other shit he does offend me far more than the penis stroke.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Nah. If that was a male doing it to a woman there would be uproar!

I've played rugby and get the banter, but on a world stage? What a prat, and it was done to provoke not for laughs.

And that's regardless of team, country or sport.

England were the better team, but they certainly let themselves down in certain areas.

That’s why men and women don’t mix on the pitch in rugby.

It’s just another example of people being outraged for other people because that’s how they think they should act.

I’ve had similar things done to me and I’ve also done similar things.

Getting ‘pork chopped’ in the showers is much worse.

I'm a bit scared to ask, but what's "pork chopped"?

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Nah. If that was a male doing it to a woman there would be uproar!

I've played rugby and get the banter, but on a world stage? What a prat, and it was done to provoke not for laughs.

And that's regardless of team, country or sport.

England were the better team, but they certainly let themselves down in certain areas.

That’s why men and women don’t mix on the pitch in rugby.

It’s just another example of people being outraged for other people because that’s how they think they should act.

I’ve had similar things done to me and I’ve also done similar things.

Getting ‘pork chopped’ in the showers is much worse.

I'm a bit scared to ask, but what's "pork chopped"? "

I can show you if you like?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Nah. If that was a male doing it to a woman there would be uproar!

I've played rugby and get the banter, but on a world stage? What a prat, and it was done to provoke not for laughs.

And that's regardless of team, country or sport.

England were the better team, but they certainly let themselves down in certain areas.

That’s why men and women don’t mix on the pitch in rugby.

It’s just another example of people being outraged for other people because that’s how they think they should act.

I’ve had similar things done to me and I’ve also done similar things.

Getting ‘pork chopped’ in the showers is much worse.

I'm a bit scared to ask, but what's "pork chopped"? "

Whilst bending to wash lower legs you suddenly get wet slapped in the face but not with a hand.

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By *carlett AllureWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

A nice lengthy ban! Completely uncalled for no matter what banter they have or if it was to provoke a reaction- it was assault and to do it during a televised game he should be made an example of!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If he'd done that on the street he'd be done for assault or even ended up on the sex offenders register

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By *aimeSmithTV/TS
over a year ago

Cliss

Having followed rugby for several years now - still happily remember Wal v Eng in 1999 and Craig Quinnell on the charge.

What happened yesterday belonged in the years when rugby was amateur. I like Marler, but it’s all a bit old school.

I’m more concerned about who’s going to follow on from Alun Wyn

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

It smacks of the kind of laddish behaviour I absolutely deplore - a lengthy ban for such an idiot I would suggest perfectly reasonable.

But then again, I cannot stand rugby and all that it stands for...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

England’s discipline on the whole was quite shit. Just wish we’d had an extra 5 minutes at the end and we would’ve won that, we didn’t lose the game, we just ran out of time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He had to apologise for what he said in the studio??? Ffs some people need to get a grip

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He had to apologise for what he said in the studio??? Ffs some people need to get a grip "

Yeah I know. People were saying that he was making light of victims of sexual abuse!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"It smacks of the kind of laddish behaviour I absolutely deplore - a lengthy ban for such an idiot I would suggest perfectly reasonable.

But then again, I cannot stand rugby and all that it stands for...

I agree with your comment on the behaviour. I always hated that.

However, I'm confused by the "rugby and all that it stands for" comment. Surely its a sport?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for marler,he should be made to finish what he started and wank Jones off!

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

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"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused "

Mun?

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

"He had to apologise for what he said in the studio??? Ffs some people need to get a grip "

I thought it was hilarious and so did the others in studio ...People just love to get offended..

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?"
It’s a welsh thing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?"

It’s a Welsh thing. We say mun after most things. Fuck sake mun, I’m busy mun, not now mun!

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?It’s a welsh thing

.."

Was trying to think of an English equivalent but failed lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?"

I’m welsh

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?

I’m welsh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As for marler,he should be made to finish what he started and wank Jones off!

That’s a wynning suggestion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As for marler,he should be made to finish what he started and wank Jones off!

That’s a wynning suggestion

Boom boom!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Bumpety bump

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By *atherjackhackettMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Absolute nuts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies. Didn’t see this and started my own thread on subject. Some strong views about it but ultimately Marler will get a ban for actions no doubt. It was an attempt to incite a reaction - like the Scots with the French. All about getting cards. AWJ is a master at getting under the skin of oppo. Perhaps Marler is master at the foreskin.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Bumpety bump"

I thought the comment from Gareth was funny. Did he really have to apologise? Who complained?

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Both were not great tbh

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bumpety bump

I thought the comment from Gareth was funny. Did he really have to apologise? Who complained?

Yeah few people complained saying he was making light of real victims of sexual assault

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one really cares, do they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No one really cares, do they?

This

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

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"No one really cares, do they?

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"Bumpety bump

I thought the comment from Gareth was funny. Did he really have to apologise? Who complained?

Yeah few people complained saying he was making light of real victims of sexual assault

Its not a sexual assault unless Marler did it for sexual gratification

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By *oreador8Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Sexual assault is no joke. If this had happened in any other workplace it would be a police matter, but because it happened on the rugby field people should just "have a sense of humour?"

I've no doubt that GT was attempting to lighten the mood in the studio, but his apology was exactly the right thing to do.

If I was in AWJ's position I'd be pushing for the most severe penalty.

This kind of behaviour has no place in any sport.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

in any event it’s in the rules .... “A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship including but not limited to grabbing, twisting or squeezing the genitals”

So perfectly acceptable for him to be cited, and given the very clear evidence, I would expect Marler to receive some kind of punishment.

Thems the rules

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By *tticusukMan
over a year ago

Formby

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208. "

The most famous version of this is vinnie Jones and Paul gascoin!

Don’t even think there was any kind of reprimand.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

.... right on cue... Marler (and Lawes for a separate incident) cited .

Panel will hear the cases

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By *atherjackhackettMan
over a year ago

Tipperary

Upon realising he'd be cited Marler immediately pleaded with Jones not to go hard on him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Guess we’ll find out Thursday what happens then. What was the Lawes tackle, first or second half does anyone know? There were so many bad tackles I can’t keep track.

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

"It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail."

It’s not a sexual assault but he should and will be banned

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Guess we’ll find out Thursday what happens then. What was the Lawes tackle, first or second half does anyone know? There were so many bad tackles I can’t keep track. "

65th minute on AWJ - dangerous/head involved/ not wrapping arms/ possibly going in with shoulder.

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By *tticusukMan
over a year ago

Formby

"It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail."

Surely It’s only sexual assault if you can prove there was sexual intent! He just grabbed an opponent.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Rough game rugby. Give them a ball each so they won’t have to all fight for the same one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail.

Surely It’s only sexual assault if you can prove there was sexual intent! He just grabbed an opponent.

If you grabbed someone in the street it would be, you might not have any intention of anything else. The law is the same on a rugby field just the same as anywhere else

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail.

Surely It’s only sexual assault if you can prove there was sexual intent! He just grabbed an opponent.

If you grabbed someone in the street it would be, you might not have any intention of anything else. The law is the same on a rugby field just the same as anywhere else

Pretty much. The genitals are sexual organs. Grabbing them is sexual, whatever the "intent".

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By *tticusukMan
over a year ago

Formby

"It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail.

Surely It’s only sexual assault if you can prove there was sexual intent! He just grabbed an opponent.

If you grabbed someone in the street it would be, you might not have any intention of anything else. The law is the same on a rugby field just the same as anywhere else"

So if I got into a fight and happened to grab someone’s dick it’s sexual assault? Nah don’t think so.

Do you know it’s sexual assault to have sex with anyone that has consumed alcohol? Means sexual assaults happen every night and are unreported. It’s all about context.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck me, if you think that's bad you would never like to see what goes on in the showers at a rugby club

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Fuck me, if you think that's bad you would never like to see what goes on in the showers at a rugby club

I would

I’d like a job where I wash rugby players after the game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fuck me, if you think that's bad you would never like to see what goes on in the showers at a rugby club

I would

I’d like a job where I wash rugby players after the game. "

Your hired already

Best part is the uniform is no uniform

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No one really cares, do they?

Obviously they do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Marler should have a lengthy ban, there is no place for this kind of behaviour on the world stage, he is supposed to represent his country,be a role model to kids playing the game.

AWJ totally right in not retaliating always the bigger man.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

"It's sexual assault. Marler should be going to jail."

Oh ffs. Is there no place for context any more ?

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

Played lots of team contact sport. It was always funny when someone’s dick gets grabbed, flicked or sucked. It’s part of the game. AWJ has a record number of caps. He’s only taken exception to it this time because he’s lost. Bet it happens all the time to him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In this day and age, absolutely ridiculous move from Marler. Fucking idiot!

I hope he’s made an example of. "

Absofuckinglutely agree. The guy is a clown and a law unto himself. How he thought he could get away with it - what a cock-womble.

“I know , I will look the other way while I grab his nutshells that’ll fool ‘em!” Only it didn’t, did it, the gypsy moron.

It’s embarrassing that he wears the red rose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bumpety bump

I thought the comment from Gareth was funny. Did he really have to apologise? Who complained?

Yeah few people complained saying he was making light of real victims of sexual assault

Its not a sexual assault unless Marler did it for sexual gratification "

I'm pretty sure there are other reasons why people commit sexual assault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A nice lengthy ban! Completely uncalled for no matter what banter they have or if it was to provoke a reaction- it was assault and to do it during a televised game he should be made an example of!"

“Like” #thumbsup (but nothing up his arse, evidently).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too many snowflakes moaning about this!

Its part of the game, always has been and always will be.

Hes done it not as sexual assault like some of you say, hes done it to wind him up.

What happened on the pitch is always to get into your opponent's head and put him of his game, the amount of times this has happened to me or kissing them on their cheek when their already annoyed (like AWJ was) to just simply wind them up more!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Too many snowflakes moaning about this!

Its part of the game, always has been and always will be.

Hes done it not as sexual assault like some of you say, hes done it to wind him up.

Except the game want scrutinised in the way it is nowadays. While those that have played rugby would agree that this sort of thing has “always been part of the fabric of the game”, you’re still a prick if you try and get away with it while 40 cameras, 1 ref, a TMO and 5 million people are watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a normal everyday local rugby game yeah seen as a laugh but in today’s blame culture and fear of offending you know the ones....it was deemed offensive sexual assault even

okay on national tv representing the country it should be more professional but lads will be lads accept it and move on.....

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By *ustyLeRouxWoman
over a year ago

Brecon

What I don't understand or didnt read is why he was touching that area!?

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By *heshire DilfMan
over a year ago

Cheshire

Anyone who has ever been anywhere near a rugby team knows, that is the least of what a rugby player can expect during his career. Furthermore a lot of it will be inflicted by his team mates in bonding rituals. The guy is clearly getting in his head. Plenty worse things happen and go unnoticed. I guy I know (who shall remain nameless) played top level rugby and the stories were outrageous. Things like not wiping after going to the toilet so when they got tackled the opponent got a face full of stink. This whole episode is a minor.

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

Have no problem with any of the citings announced so far (although do have to say the Lawes one doesn't ring bells particularly).

However, trust Parkes will also be cited for his "tackle" around Tuilagi's head......consistency!!!!!

(not to mention Curry being....flipped)!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208. "

if you think that is bad.... dont look up what John Hopoate did to get his 12 week ban....

not even going to give you a clue, but truely both very funny and eye-watering

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem for Market is the view that World Rugby and the EDU take on the image of the game, especially when they look at the falling numbers of players.

Hearing the argument that "it's just part of the game" doesn't hold when parents see that happening and read comments like that. They just decide not to take their children down to the local mini's.

I speak as someone whose club is already seeing numbers drop due to MND and head injury worries, and let's not forget that a bit of buff and high tackles were also "just part of the game" so I hope he does get made an example of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208.

if you think that is bad.... dont look up what John Hopoate did to get his 12 week ban....

not even going to give you a clue, but truely both very funny and eye-watering "

Lol, that image is sadly ingrained in the memory of all Australians. To get a 12 week ban in those days shows how bad it was

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

eye gouging is much more serious than this... and they normally get somewhere between 10 and 20 games....

just give him the bog standard 12... let him appeal it down to 8... and send everyone on their merry way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What’s people’s thoughts on it with regards to punishment, should there be punishment should there not?

Also Gareth Thomas has had to issue and apology for his comment even though I thought it was hilarious.

He said that would never have happened in my day, I’m really upset about it, if it had I’d never have retired

Joe Marler could be facing a suspension from 12 weeks to 208. "
In this day and age he will probably be sentenced to death my a firing squad ! Nothing in it really just fooling around

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Fuck me, if you think that's bad you would never like to see what goes on in the showers at a rugby club

Please share what you have been involved with

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"It smacks of the kind of laddish behaviour I absolutely deplore - a lengthy ban for such an idiot I would suggest perfectly reasonable.

But then again, I cannot stand rugby and all that it stands for..."

All that it stands for..

Respect for the referee perhaps

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

And this fool called a traveller Gypsy Boy..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Can’t imagine if I was involved in rugby as a physio or the girl who gives out oranges. First week I’d be struck off, someone comes for a head injury assessment, I pull their pants down to check their temperature up the arse with my tongue.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"the girl who gives out oranges. "

Lol

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Can’t imagine if I was involved in rugby as a physio or the girl who gives out oranges. First week I’d be struck off, someone comes for a head injury assessment, I pull their pants down to check their temperature up the arse with my tongue. "

Annie.... Seriously...,

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Annie.... Seriously...,"

Ok not a head injury then or if they’re in massive pain. Maybe if they just had a bit of cramp or wanted a cuddle.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Annie.... Seriously...,

Ok not a head injury then or if they’re in massive pain. Maybe if they just had a bit of cramp or wanted a cuddle. "

That's better but in front of the stadium

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's hope it's not the guy who didn't wipe...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?It’s a welsh thing

Was trying to think of an English equivalent but failed lol"

Depends where you're from. "Like" "y'know?" and "man" are regularly chucked on the end of sentences in different parts of England, the same as "Ken?" is up in Scotland.

As for the 'willy grab', you get general banter going on like that in the industry I work in. While limited in actual humour so I tend to find that sort of thing dull, there's generally no offence meant by it. If someone came from a highly religious background then lads would probably know they just weren't part of that craic, but otherwise most tend to be fair game.

I think a lot of the offence taken at the incident is the fact that it was a televised game highly in the public eye, so it's seen as a lot more provoking, nasty and as a bigger insult. As such, Joe can fully expect to receive disciplinary action for it, there's a time and a place.

As far as Gareth Thomas goes though, he shouldn't have to face any backlash whatsoever in my eyes, it was a funny comment that was merely meant to defuse the tension and should be treated as such.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Maybe he wasn’t comfortable having his willy fondled by another bloke. "
i think its more about the fact they lost even with two men up, if you noticed the England player struggled to find AWJs nob maybe he AWJs was embarassed

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Maybe he wasn’t comfortable having his willy fondled by another bloke. i think its more about the fact they lost even with two men up, if you noticed the England player struggled to find AWJs nob maybe he AWJs was embarassed

Yes I noticed that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

To be fair it was only the last 8 minutes they were down to 13.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Yes I noticed that

If Marler is not punished then young people playing rugby will believe that this is acceptable behaviour. It is not.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Yes I noticed that

If Marler is not punished then young people playing rugby will believe that this is acceptable behaviour. It is not. "

No it isn't acceptable in any sport. I'm not into rugby, so don't know if this is 'normal' behaviour in this sport,but it was televised for all to see, so yes, wrong.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Ive never watched a rugby game in my life bloody glad my son didnt get into it sound like a pack of wild animals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

To be fair it was only the last 8 minutes they were down to 13.

England were shocking with their discipline, the brawling, the penis fondling, that rat cunt Farrell shoving Dan Biggar for no reason, the multiple bad tackles, I believe Courtney Lawes is also being cited for a dangerous tackle, also Tuilagi’s tackle on George north. "
the tuilagi tackle was to the shoulder rugby is a tough sport and when a 16 stone man is in motion aimed at another to make a tackle the point of contact can not always be controlled, their was no malice in that tackle and as for pushing each other thats the game, England won and AWJs a great rugby player has a small nob these are the facts, lets appreciate a great win by England

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well AWJ was hardly going to be full erect whilst playing rugby, plus it would’ve been cold. Maybe he’s a grower.

If some woman touched my fanny she’d get a punch to the throat. Same as a man would if he wasn’t good looking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It wasn't even in the heat of the moment, they were basically just standing there at the time, it looked like a premeditated action to me. He deserves everything he gets and then some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It wasn't even in the heat of the moment, they were basically just standing there at the time, it looked like a premeditated action to me. He deserves everything he gets and then some"
Gareth loved it

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over a year ago

"It wasn't even in the heat of the moment, they were basically just standing there at the time, it looked like a premeditated action to me. He deserves everything he gets and then some

Gareth loved it

fair play to him

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Would it be acceptable to do what he did in a Swingers Club..

Not on your Nellie

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Would it be acceptable to do what he did in a Swingers Club..

Not on your Nellie"

Anything sexual anywhere, that is uninvited, is totally unacceptable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh for gods sake mun. It’s sad how people are too scared to say anything anymore for fear of being accused

Mun?It’s a welsh thing

Was trying to think of an English equivalent but failed lol"

The Welsh say “mun” the English choose sexual assault. Bloody English mun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ive never watched a rugby game in my life bloody glad my son didnt get into it sound like a pack of wild animals"

That’s just the English. The Welsh are all wonderful people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and did anyone notice AWJ laughed at the time and pointed at his small nob

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"and did anyone notice AWJ laughed at the time and pointed at his small nob

Haha!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I played rugby at school in the late 70's/early 80's (badly, I might add!) and this sort of thing would have "acceptable banter", whether physical or verbal and would have been laughed off back then. Times and values have changed since then. It wouldn't have bothered me then or now, but everyone is different. I feel an apology, a manly slap on the back and a handshake should be sufficient to resolve this.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I played rugby at school in the late 70's/early 80's (badly, I might add!) and this sort of thing would have "acceptable banter", whether physical or verbal and would have been laughed off back then. Times and values have changed since then. It wouldn't have bothered me then or now, but everyone is different. I feel an apology, a manly slap on the back and a handshake should be sufficient to resolve this."

Yes I agree, I suppose it was because it was show on tv more than was necessary and we have impressionable young players. We see it in football all the time with our grandsons team and rivals, mimicking what the professionals do, having watched them on tv.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yeah it was funny and if it was a local game down your club it could be laughed off. But with the eyes of most of UK watching and people of all ages including children, they shouldn’t be seeing people touching other people’s genitals and thinking that’s ok and normal. The amount of abuse that goes on and the things taught in schools about your private’s being YOUR privates and nobody should touch them, for a kid seeing it on tv they could think oh it’s ok then when my creepy uncle comes and touches me in my pants if my favourite rugby players are doing it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah it was funny and if it was a local game down your club it could be laughed off. But with the eyes of most of UK watching and people of all ages including children, they shouldn’t be seeing people touching other people’s genitals and thinking that’s ok and normal. The amount of abuse that goes on and the things taught in schools about your private’s being YOUR privates and nobody should touch them, for a kid seeing it on tv they could think oh it’s ok then when my creepy uncle comes and touches me in my pants if my favourite rugby players are doing it too. "

Very valid points. Do you feel that in this situation it should be left to the two men to resolve things, or that it should be taken further?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

has humour completely gone from everything now are we politically incorrect with everything we do, can we not be allowed to see the funny side any more both players laughed in the moment, rugby is up close and personal they grab each others nuts in a ruck, its rugby, England won mind

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

The Willy grabbing didn't alter the score

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Willy grabbing didn't alter the score

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exactly thankyou for noticing that oh tanned one

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"The Willy grabbing didn't alter the score

exactly thankyou for noticing that oh tanned one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Willy grabbing didn't alter the score

exactly thankyou for noticing that oh tanned one

Just thought I'd let you know because I can't PM you - Babiaan, Chaka and Dave got into the grain cupboard earlier (4am!) and knocked over a bag of oats which split. I've spent the last hour brushing it out of their fur (it's now 6am here). I'm beginning to think Sphynx cats maybe the way to go

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"The Willy grabbing didn't alter the score

exactly thankyou for noticing that oh tanned one

Oh no!! They are so naughty!! Yes sphynx cats sounds the way to go

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

This is also the prop who verbally racially abused Samson Lee. Of course it's down to England who they choose to represent them..

Win at any cost right ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me and my husband argued about this.

He said that rugby players (he played for 10 years) are used to it.

I love a bit of guy on guy, I bloody love rugby players. But it felt wrong to me when I saw it. It sent me straight into flash back of something horrible that I went through and made me feel uncomfortable.

At the press conference he said Joe is a good guy. But he was also saying that it shouldn't be allowed to go on.

He wasn't attacking Joe's character, not making him out to be a predator. But said it shouldn't happen. I think that's fair enough. Yeah, it's a contact sport, but that was not an incidental touch, it was intentional ... for what purpose? He wanted a reaction I think, Wyn said that to in his press conference. It was provocation.

It's definitely something that needs discussion anyway! Lines have to be clear on what is acceptable though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lets turn rugby into a pansies game too why don't we, its a rough sport with intimate handling they can take it, in this case what they can't take is losing had Wales won would this have come to the fore i don't think so, Joe will get punished for this for sure but its not the big deal the media have made it out to be

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"lets turn rugby into a pansies game too why don't we, its a rough sport with intimate handling they can take it, in this case what they can't take is losing had Wales won would this have come to the fore i don't think so, Joe will get punished for this for sure but its not the big deal the media have made it out to be

Player safety is a big deal though ...

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

What is a pansie ? Not heard that term before sorry ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is a pansie ? Not heard that term before sorry ?"
its a gentle flower

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Like I said earlier, different if the penis grab was in a local game down the club but on tv where it’s watched by many people including children, it shouldn’t be normalised for people to touch other people’s genitals.

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By *otNewMan
over a year ago

Nearby

"Me and my husband argued about this.

He said that rugby players (he played for 10 years) are used to it.

At the press conference he said Joe is a good guy. But he was also saying that it shouldn't be allowed to go on.

It's definitely something that needs discussion anyway! Lines have to be clear on what is acceptable though.

There plenty of "banter" in rugby, and more than a smidge of homo-erotica but Marler stepped over the line... The only reason he did it was to get a reaction from AWJ.. He's left himself looking like a cock in my opinion. Expect a 12 week ban.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Player safety is a big deal though ..."

He seems a bit clueless about rugby based on previous posts. Arm chair fan Trev

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

If someone grabbed me it would be a karate chop to the throat. It’s wrong, just wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Player safety is a big deal though ..."
awwww tinkling with his winkie isnt safe what about the guy who got sent off for the right hook surely thats more significant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Player safety is a big deal though ...

He seems a bit clueless about rugby based on previous posts. Arm chair fan Trev

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! "
it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a professional sport and that's considered unprofessional behaviour, end of story. "

That’s the main thing, whatever people have had done in amateur games, days of old, whatever, it’s against the laws of the game now, it’s clear & obvious, needs to be dealt with, just like every other infringement in the game that didn’t get picked up during it.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! it is

It's the perfect cycle.. England bigged up by themselves and the press to get dumped out of the world cup when they expect it least... England the only team to host a world cup and get humiliated in the group stages by Wales..

Win a semi final and arrogantly expect to beat South Africa and thumped..

Same old story ..

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over a year ago

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! it is

Win a semi final and arrogantly expect to beat South Africa and thumped..

Same old story .. "
ahhh but we won that game, you're only as good as your last game

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! it is

Win a semi final and arrogantly expect to beat South Africa and thumped..

Same old story .. ahhh but we won that game, you're only as good as your last game

And your last world cup game

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over a year ago

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! it is

Win a semi final and arrogantly expect to beat South Africa and thumped..

Same old story .. ahhh but we won that game, you're only as good as your last game

And your last world cup game

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but England won yes or no? did we play well? yes we did, were we two men down? yes we were, not sure where wales came in this years 6 nations table but i think England are in pole position at the minute, when England play crap then we deserve to lose and that France game wasn't good, fouls happen in every sport, professional fouls, mind games, AWJ is no exception to any of these infringements hes a great player, they both laughed on the pitch in the moment so it was lighthearted if Joe gets punished so be it, some decisions in sport are harsh, this maybe is or isn't depending on the team you support but England won

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! it is

Win a semi final and arrogantly expect to beat South Africa and thumped..

Same old story .. ahhh but we won that game, you're only as good as your last game

And your last world cup game

but England won yes or no? did we play well? yes we did, were we two men down? yes we were, not sure where wales came in this years 6 nations table but i think England are in pole position at the minute, when England play crap then we deserve to lose and that France game wasn't good, fouls happen in every sport, professional fouls, mind games, AWJ is no exception to any of these infringements hes a great player, they both laughed on the pitch in the moment so it was lighthearted if Joe gets punished so be it, some decisions in sport are harsh, this maybe is or isn't depending on the team you support but England won

Winners!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Even if we had won the game the illegal tackles and the grabbed of someone’s dick would still need to be looked at.

Just ashame how far the Welsh have fell from the world cup! it is

Win a semi final and arrogantly expect to beat South Africa and thumped..

Same old story .. ahhh but we won that game, you're only as good as your last game

And your last world cup game

Winners!

"
winner winner chicken dinner

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Maybe he wasn’t comfortable having his willy fondled by another bloke. "

How would you feel if I grabbed your pussy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A new colleague once introduced herself by fondling my crotch. Being British I dealt with it and maintained a stiff upper lip. It was a novel approach but could be the way to go in these times of avoiding handshakes. .

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over a year ago

"A new colleague once introduced herself by fondling my crotch. Being British I dealt with it and maintained a stiff upper lip. It was a novel approach but could be the way to go in these times of avoiding handshakes. ."
yes sense at last, do away with the handshake and wear a mask

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over a year ago

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Maybe he wasn’t comfortable having his willy fondled by another bloke.

How would you feel if I grabbed your pussy. "

Your hand wouldn’t get there fast enough, I’ve got quite quick reflexes and can go from neutral to fighting stance in less than a second, as you lunged towards that area I would grab your hand and be under your arm twisting your wrist within a millimetre of snapping it.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"I think wyn needs to get over himself and find his sense of humour.

Maybe he wasn’t comfortable having his willy fondled by another bloke.

How would you feel if I grabbed your pussy.

You would get a red card for that you know. And a lengthy ban.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ten week ban for the scumbag Marler

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Ten week ban for the scumbag Marler

I see the subtle change in language for this post to the masses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ten week ban for the scumbag Marler

I see the subtle change in language for this post to the masses

if the cap fits, Trev

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What about Lawes and Tuilagi? Ima google now.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"What about Lawes and Tuilagi? Ima google now. "

Lawes was dismissed so no punishment

4 weeks for Tuilagi

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"What about Lawes and Tuilagi? Ima google now.

Lawes was dismissed so no punishment

4 weeks for Tuilagi

Which is daft. Because out of all three offences, the Tuilagi one was by far the potentially most dangerous.

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

And Parkes.......?

Oh, I forgot, he's not English!

(of course, he's actually not Welsh either)

A bit of consistency wouldn't go amiss!

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"And Parkes.......?

Oh, I forgot, he's not English!

(of course, he's actually not Welsh either)

A bit of consistency wouldn't go amiss! "

The independent citing commissioner obviously didn’t think it was required

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