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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have just been called "..a keyboard warrior with a high opinion of himself" in a political Thread.

Fair enough maybe and while everyone is free to air their opinions of issues it came on the back of many other unnecessarily crass and rude comments to other people in Threads. Now I don't know about others but I find it quite wrong to be called 'Tory scum' or '"complete with stupid insults and cretinous accusations" or "racist".

And I have to wonder if its worth contributing to Forums when you leave yourself open to blatant abuse.

So: Has the t'internet caused us to lose the ability to argue, agree or diagree and then go down the pub for a pint. Or three. ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep cause its not face to face end of story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooooooo wot did u say to get their goat lol ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to say that on the internet I am far more held back and respectful to others than I would ever be in person.

I will debate with the best of them....but try to stay on the right side of the ban button... where as in person I am not really fussed if someone stomps off..

cali

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Yep cause its not face to face end of story"

agree, as you are not there in front of them they can say what they want to without the risk of you punching them in the face

social ettiquette goes out the window online

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep cause its not face to face end of story

agree, as you are not there in front of them they can say what they want to without the risk of you punching them in the face

social ettiquette goes out the window online"

see I am always doing things backwards..

Cali

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By *ucsparkMan
over a year ago

dudley


"I have just been called "..a keyboard warrior with a high opinion of himself" in a political Thread.

Fair enough maybe and while everyone is free to air their opinions of issues it came on the back of many other unnecessarily crass and rude comments to other people in Threads. Now I don't know about others but I find it quite wrong to be called 'Tory scum' or '"complete with stupid insults and cretinous accusations" or "racist".

And I have to wonder if its worth contributing to Forums when you leave yourself open to blatant abuse.

So: Has the t'internet caused us to lose the ability to argue, agree or diagree and then go down the pub for a pint. Or three. ??"

One must remember that debating used to be carried out mainly face to face, and as such most people were always more careful of words used. One must also remember that information is alot easier to come by and as such more people can make a better argument.

But keep it up you do put some good points across

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing is that it's an open forum and you cannot post and expect everyone to agree with you, that would make a debate incredibly dull. On the other hand, knowing what you do now, you can decide whether to post your honest opinion or not, its up to you to stand by what you believe in, in the same instance, listen to others and don't cloud your judgement of them by their political stance. And just because others don't agree with you, or you them, doesn't mean to say that you will be bitter enemies does it? What everyone needs is an open mind, to learn from what people say, after all just because you feel this way, doesn't mean its wholly right does it?

And going down the pub sounds a great idea, shame I will be on the other side of the bar

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thing is that it's an open forum and you cannot post and expect everyone to agree with you, that would make a debate incredibly dull. On the other hand, knowing what you do now, you can decide whether to post your honest opinion or not, its up to you to stand by what you believe in, in the same instance, listen to others and don't cloud your judgement of them by their political stance. And just because others don't agree with you, or you them, doesn't mean to say that you will be bitter enemies does it? What everyone needs is an open mind, to learn from what people say, after all just because you feel this way, doesn't mean its wholly right does it?

And going down the pub sounds a great idea, shame I will be on the other side of the bar "

A pint of lager and 2 packets of crisps if I may then ....

Oh disagreement is a wonderful thing and I know we all learn from differing views. But its HOW these views are handled and presented that seems to have changed very substantially IMHO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep cause its not face to face end of story

agree, as you are not there in front of them they can say what they want to without the risk of you punching them in the face

social ettiquette goes out the window online"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you feel insulted or someone is offensive report and give your reasons and your gas may be reviewed and action taken. in the mean time remember its the fool who resorts to insults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trust me when I say I am far more diplomatic behind a keyboard than in person.

Those who have met me can testify on my behalf.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you feel insulted or someone is offensive report and give your reasons and your gas may be reviewed and action taken. in the mean time remember its the fool who resorts to insults."

Reporting would be a last resort for me but good point.

Ah wsn't it Oscar Wilde who said to someone "I see that abuse is still the refuge of the witless..."?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone says something that riles me on here or out there in the real world I'll say something. In fact i'm with cali that I'm probably more reserved on here than I would be if someone said something idiotic in my company, becuase it's harder to come across as you intend on here. I know out there I could get my point across without coming across as bitchy, but on here that's hard to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Judge people by their posts.

Someone calls you scum, keyboard warrior or anything else, even 'good' things, more than likely that's what they are (bad or good).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not contribute on threads that talk about politics, religions, race or sexual orientation, etc. etc., as I know where I stand on those subject matters, full stop.

Whilst I do not jam my views and opinions on others, and respect others' views and opinions of their own; the same cannot be said in return.

I am not going to let peeps whom I do not care about wind me up, as life is too short etc. etc. etc...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep cause its not face to face end of story

agree, as you are not there in front of them they can say what they want to without the risk of you punching them in the face

social ettiquette goes out the window online"

i would tell what i thought of people but my temper isnt the best

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

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some i am sure just get out of bed the wrong side and take it out on others at times here .. so you just keep being you ok a lovely man xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just out of interest, were the alleged abuse of name calling made in open posts for all to see or behind closed doors via PMs?

I can't be arsed to trawl through the threads to find out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just out of interest, were the alleged abuse of name calling made in open posts for all to see or behind closed doors via PMs?

I can't be arsed to trawl through the threads to find out. "

Open Threads for all to see....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

I can't be arsed to trawl through the threads to find out. "

...and you do have such a lovely arse as well ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least they have the guts to stand up and be counted and not gutless tw@ts who snipe via PMs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you feel insulted or someone is offensive report and give your reasons and your gas may be reviewed and action taken. in the mean time remember its the fool who resorts to insults.

Reporting would be a last resort for me but good point.

Ah wsn't it Oscar Wilde who said to someone "I see that abuse is still the refuge of the witless..."?"

did he not also say something along the lines of "i refuse to get into a battle of wits with someone who has no ammunition ???

classic line

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Didn't he also say ......

If someone besmirch me in the textual open spaces i shall begin a thread on it to relive my suffering ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you feel insulted or someone is offensive report and give your reasons and your gas may be reviewed and action taken. in the mean time remember its the fool who resorts to insults.

Reporting would be a last resort for me but good point.

Ah wsn't it Oscar Wilde who said to someone "I see that abuse is still the refuge of the witless..."?

did he not also say something along the lines of "i refuse to get into a battle of wits with someone who has no ammunition ???

classic line "

and: "Reports of my death are greatly exaggereated"

love the one liner put down. Churchill was another master at it.

Churchil to Lady Astor: "Madam you are ugly"

Astor to Churchill: "And you sir are d*unk"

Churchill to Astor: "But madam I shall be sober in the morning"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"At least they have the guts to stand up and be counted and not gutless tw@ts who snipe via PMs!

"

Tell me Pearl. How does one uncover a gutless tw@t?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Didn't he also say ......

If someone besmirch me in the textual open spaces i shall begin a thread on it to relive my suffering ?"

No I fear he didn't madam. He had more class.

And isn't it better to read a post before writing a reply?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least they have the guts to stand up and be counted and not gutless tw@ts who snipe via PMs!

Tell me Pearl. How does one uncover a gutless tw@t?

"

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They send unpleasant PMs rather than to post in the forums.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Didn't he also say ......

If someone besmirch me in the textual open spaces i shall begin a thread on it to relive my suffering ?

No I fear he didn't madam. He had more class.

And isn't it better to read a post before writing a reply?"

Whoever said give him an inch of rope has my vote.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

[Removed by poster at 05/05/12 16:44:52]

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"At least they have the guts to stand up and be counted and not gutless tw@ts who snipe via PMs!

Tell me Pearl. How does one uncover a gutless tw@t?

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They send unpleasant PMs rather than to post in the forums. "

I've heard of this but not experienced it. Well in the years i've been here only about twice.

But HOW does anyone know that anyone else is doing it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry, Granny, I do not understand what you are trying to say.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Didn't he also say ......

If someone besmirch me in the textual open spaces i shall begin a thread on it to relive my suffering ?

No I fear he didn't madam. He had more class.

And isn't it better to read a post before writing a reply?

Whoever said give him an inch of rope has my vote."

A tightrope should be a lot longer than an inch.Especially if you are a SizeNine. Although I have heard some ladies value any inch ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx"

Thanks

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Sorry, Granny, I do not understand what you are trying to say. "

Im not really saying. Im asking.

I'll try to be clear.

Say someone said something about me to someone else.......

How would I know?

Cos if someone says sommat to me about someone else I don't say owt.

I won't let people use me to incite.

So how do we KNOW who does it?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks "

I thought she meant you too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks "
i have not looked back on posts here .. and i know the OP . x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks

I thought she meant you too."

We agree on that at least x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have had unpleasant messages sent to me via the "Reply Privately" button from peeps who do not agree with my posts in the forums.

I do not usually receive messages of people slagging off other people, unless they are friends who share the same views with me about someone/people.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Didn't he also say ......

If someone besmirch me in the textual open spaces i shall begin a thread on it to relive my suffering ?

No I fear he didn't madam. He had more class.

And isn't it better to read a post before writing a reply?

Whoever said give him an inch of rope has my vote.

A tightrope should be a lot longer than an inch.Especially if you are a SizeNine. Although I have heard some ladies value any inch .."

I stand corrected on the length. I mixed my metaphores.

It's give him enough rope ......etc etc ..

For some an inch is enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks

I thought she meant you too.

We agree on that at least x"
where do you come into this ????????//

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I have had unpleasant messages sent to me via the "Reply Privately" button from peeps who do not agree with my posts in the forums.

I do not usually receive messages of people slagging off other people, unless they are friends who share the same views with me about someone/people.

"

Wow...

I've never had that happen Pearl so Im going to agree with you.

Mind you I reply to someone privately rather than in the forum if i think they are getting heated or what I say might be taken the wrong way but it's never rude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks

I thought she meant you too.

We agree on that at least x where do you come into this ????????//"

I thought it was me

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks

I thought she meant you too.

We agree on that at least x where do you come into this ????????//"

You said he was a caring man Jo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your a lovely caring man and i have known you years from other site ... you get a real mix on sites like this ... and you just have to be true to yourself and dont care and take things to heart what some say at times . xxxx

Thanks

I thought she meant you too.

We agree on that at least x where do you come into this ????????//

You said he was a caring man Jo "
well i know the op is , lol not sure about him as never meet .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have had unpleasant messages sent to me via the "Reply Privately" button from peeps who do not agree with my posts in the forums.

I do not usually receive messages of people slagging off other people, unless they are friends who share the same views with me about someone/people.

Wow...

I've never had that happen Pearl so Im going to agree with you.

Mind you I reply to someone privately rather than in the forum if i think they are getting heated or what I say might be taken the wrong way but it's never rude.

"

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Such unpleasant messages are far and between, as I normally block peeps for not liking their forum posts before they have the chance to PM me.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"I have just been called "..a keyboard warrior with a high opinion of himself" in a political Thread.

Fair enough maybe and while everyone is free to air their opinions of issues it came on the back of many other unnecessarily crass and rude comments to other people in Threads. Now I don't know about others but I find it quite wrong to be called 'Tory scum' or '"complete with stupid insults and cretinous accusations" or "racist".

And I have to wonder if its worth contributing to Forums when you leave yourself open to blatant abuse.

So: Has the t'internet caused us to lose the ability to argue, agree or diagree and then go down the pub for a pint. Or three. ??"

if someone has abused you then report it...otherwise, grow a thick skin, tis the internt...and remember others are just as entitled to their opinions as you, just because you didnt think you said something racist or whatever doesn't mean others wont interpret it differently

wait till u get called a dog with sti's then you know what personal abuse is

You want some free advice...stay off politics on a swinging site...its like arguing about swinging in a convent...wrong place, wrong audience

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You want some free advice...stay off politics on a swinging site...its like arguing about swinging in a convent...wrong place, wrong audience "

Good point well made.

But its addictive ...

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"You want some free advice...stay off politics on a swinging site...its like arguing about swinging in a convent...wrong place, wrong audience

Good point well made.

But its addictive ... "

just join me on the threads about anel

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

Good point well made.

But its addictive ...

just join me on the threads about anel "

Erm for me that would so be the wrong place ..but I might like the audience.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I do not contribute on threads that talk about politics, religions, race or sexual orientation, etc. etc., as I know where I stand on those subject matters, full stop.

Whilst I do not jam my views and opinions on others, and respect others' views and opinions of their own; the same cannot be said in return.

I am not going to let peeps whom I do not care about wind me up, as life is too short etc. etc. etc...

"

I made that decision today. I spend my days reading post mortem reports, awful things, I come here for light relief.

It gets tiring reading posts that seem to blame "coloureds" for every ill in this country and it gets worst.

Very few "coloureds" post on the forums...wonder why?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I do not contribute on threads that talk about politics, religions, race or sexual orientation, etc. etc., as I know where I stand on those subject matters, full stop.

Whilst I do not jam my views and opinions on others, and respect others' views and opinions of their own; the same cannot be said in return.

I am not going to let peeps whom I do not care about wind me up, as life is too short etc. etc. etc...

I made that decision today. I spend my days reading post mortem reports, awful things, I come here for light relief.

It gets tiring reading posts that seem to blame "coloureds" for every ill in this country and it gets worst.

Very few "coloureds" post on the forums...wonder why?

"

stop reding them threads then

although have to say i am on here most days and i have no clue what threads you are referring to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you feel insulted or someone is offensive report and give your reasons and your gas may be reviewed and action taken. in the mean time remember its the fool who resorts to insults."

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Sometimes, a joke or light hearted comment can be taken the wrong way; as online communication through text does not include tone or pitch, facial expression, body language it is easy at times to misinterpret what has been said and to assume seomthing was critical when perhaps it was just a comment or question.

Would not worry about it - there are plenty of threads, people and chats to be had and I d say most of them are really enjoyable.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"If you feel insulted or someone is offensive report and give your reasons and your gas may be reviewed and action taken. in the mean time remember its the fool who resorts to insults."

Being nosey, are you posting from a phone with predictive text or do you think the man has wind?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"

Being nosey, are you posting from a phone with predictive text or do you think the man has wind? "

only just seen this

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"I do not contribute on threads that talk about politics, religions, race or sexual orientation, etc. etc., as I know where I stand on those subject matters, full stop.

Whilst I do not jam my views and opinions on others, and respect others' views and opinions of their own; the same cannot be said in return.

I am not going to let peeps whom I do not care about wind me up, as life is too short etc. etc. etc...

I made that decision today. I spend my days reading post mortem reports, awful things, I come here for light relief.

It gets tiring reading posts that seem to blame "coloureds" for every ill in this country and it gets worst.

Very few "coloureds" post on the forums...wonder why?

stop reding them threads then

although have to say i am on here most days and i have no clue what threads you are referring to "

I too am utterly amazed at this.

Whilst it is true that "immigrants" and in particular, and unjustly, Poles are often cited i have never until now seen the word "coloureds" used.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brush it off. Some people don't seem to understand the difference between disliking an opinion and disliking a person......

I doubt that this problem has arisen solely from the internet age, it's an issue that's much older than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a Keyboard Warrior,

I'm more of an Armchair General

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said."

Maybe it's not so simple.

Someone much clevererererer than me said that a great deal of communication is in the facial expressions and body language, and obviously you cant see that when its the written word.

Also, and I dont mean to cast carnations here, but some people aren't totally au fait with the written word, and its quite easy for them to get the wrong end of the stick and either

A. Take offence at something innocuous, or

B. Not understand whats being said and go off on a tangent.

And.... then you have the nuggets who could get "huffy" at the drop of a titfer, who have a hair trigger set so fine that they could fall out with Mother Theresa or Muhatma Ghandi!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The way I look at it is that people on the internet are not 'real'. Of course they are but the only interaction I am having with them is a few written words on a website. They don't form any part of my life or have any input into it.

I spend time reading their opinions and responding when I wish to. But they are just one click out of my life, I can switch them off anytime I want.

All of my working life I have dealt with conflict situations on a daily basis. I have had no choice but to communicate effectively in order to diffuse situations, whilst having abusive names screamed at me and the very real threat of violence.

Therefore the online community of faceless people offering opinions whilst sitting on their sofas, sometimes becoming personal with snide insults are absolutely no threat in comparison.

People are just a click away and their thoughts and opinions directed at you are gone, that's the best way to look at it - does it really matter what they call you

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By *partan_dMan
over a year ago

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"The way I look at it is that people on the internet are not 'real'. Of course they are but the only interaction I am having with them is a few written words on a website. They don't form any part of my life or have any input into it.

I spend time reading their opinions and responding when I wish to. But they are just one click out of my life, I can switch them off anytime I want.

All of my working life I have dealt with conflict situations on a daily basis. I have had no choice but to communicate effectively in order to diffuse situations, whilst having abusive names screamed at me and the very real threat of violence.

Therefore the online community of faceless people offering opinions whilst sitting on their sofas, sometimes becoming personal with snide insults are absolutely no threat in comparison.

People are just a click away and their thoughts and opinions directed at you are gone, that's the best way to look at it - does it really matter what they call you

"

Totally agree with this. I try and be myself online but i am definitely different in person. But i think everyone is. Great post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The way I look at it is that people on the internet are not 'real'. Of course they are but the only interaction I am having with them is a few written words on a website. They don't form any part of my life or have any input into it.

I spend time reading their opinions and responding when I wish to. But they are just one click out of my life, I can switch them off anytime I want.

All of my working life I have dealt with conflict situations on a daily basis. I have had no choice but to communicate effectively in order to diffuse situations, whilst having abusive names screamed at me and the very real threat of violence.

Therefore the online community of faceless people offering opinions whilst sitting on their sofas, sometimes becoming personal with snide insults are absolutely no threat in comparison.

People are just a click away and their thoughts and opinions directed at you are gone, that's the best way to look at it - does it really matter what they call you

"
very positive way of looking at it xxx

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I do not contribute on threads that talk about politics, religions, race or sexual orientation, etc. etc., as I know where I stand on those subject matters, full stop.

Whilst I do not jam my views and opinions on others, and respect others' views and opinions of their own; the same cannot be said in return.

I am not going to let peeps whom I do not care about wind me up, as life is too short etc. etc. etc...

I made that decision today. I spend my days reading post mortem reports, awful things, I come here for light relief.

It gets tiring reading posts that seem to blame "coloureds" for every ill in this country and it gets worst.

Very few "coloureds" post on the forums...wonder why?

stop reding them threads then

although have to say i am on here most days and i have no clue what threads you are referring to

I too am utterly amazed at this.

Whilst it is true that "immigrants" and in particular, and unjustly, Poles are often cited i have never until now seen the word "coloureds" used."

To clarify, I was using "coloureds" to encompass everyone not a white British Christian. Whilst coloureds have been mentioned on threads, not in the quantity my post might have implied.

Nevertheless, it doesn't alter the fact there's a nasty undertone on the forums at times and saying "dont read them" just about sums it up.

My partner is white, I'm rather well off so don't have any chips on my shoulder or feel repressed. If I find it unpleasant I doubt I'm alone.

I've been here long enough to be able to judge the threads that kick off. I may read them with sadness and seldom comment, but sometimes you read something you feel compelled to comment.

Sometimes people honestly don't think what they've said is offensive, especially when they use sweeping generalisations, but it doesn't alter how it appears to me when reading it.

But hey...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not contribute on threads that talk about politics, religions, race or sexual orientation, etc. etc., as I know where I stand on those subject matters, full stop.

Whilst I do not jam my views and opinions on others, and respect others' views and opinions of their own; the same cannot be said in return.

I am not going to let peeps whom I do not care about wind me up, as life is too short etc. etc. etc...

I made that decision today. I spend my days reading post mortem reports, awful things, I come here for light relief.

It gets tiring reading posts that seem to blame "coloureds" for every ill in this country and it gets worst.

Very few "coloureds" post on the forums...wonder why?

stop reding them threads then

although have to say i am on here most days and i have no clue what threads you are referring to

I too am utterly amazed at this.

Whilst it is true that "immigrants" and in particular, and unjustly, Poles are often cited i have never until now seen the word "coloureds" used.

To clarify, I was using "coloureds" to encompass everyone not a white British Christian. Whilst coloureds have been mentioned on threads, not in the quantity my post might have implied.

Nevertheless, it doesn't alter the fact there's a nasty undertone on the forums at times and saying "dont read them" just about sums it up.

My partner is white, I'm rather well off so don't have any chips on my shoulder or feel repressed. If I find it unpleasant I doubt I'm alone.

I've been here long enough to be able to judge the threads that kick off. I may read them with sadness and seldom comment, but sometimes you read something you feel compelled to comment.

Sometimes people honestly don't think what they've said is offensive, especially when they use sweeping generalisations, but it doesn't alter how it appears to me when reading it.

But hey..."

So by your definition I am a 'coloured' then? Because I most certainly am not a Christian. What was that you said about judging people and generalisations?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

Maybe it's not so simple.

Someone much clevererererer than me said that a great deal of communication is in the facial expressions and body language, and obviously you cant see that when its the written word.

Also, and I dont mean to cast carnations here, but some people aren't totally au fait with the written word, and its quite easy for them to get the wrong end of the stick and either

A. Take offence at something innocuous, or

B. Not understand whats being said and go off on a tangent.

And.... then you have the nuggets who could get "huffy" at the drop of a titfer, who have a hair trigger set so fine that they could fall out with Mother Theresa or Muhatma Ghandi!!

"

And then there are those who can understand the written word and respond accordingly.

There are those that do understand the written word and don't respond when they can see clearly that the writer isn't exactly adept at putting a point forward.

You missed out the person who says something with great clarity of meaning and then backtracks instead of putting their hand up to what they said in the first place.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"The way I look at it is that people on the internet are not 'real'. Of course they are but the only interaction I am having with them is a few written words on a website. They don't form any part of my life or have any input into it.

I spend time reading their opinions and responding when I wish to. But they are just one click out of my life, I can switch them off anytime I want.

All of my working life I have dealt with conflict situations on a daily basis. I have had no choice but to communicate effectively in order to diffuse situations, whilst having abusive names screamed at me and the very real threat of violence.

Therefore the online community of faceless people offering opinions whilst sitting on their sofas, sometimes becoming personal with snide insults are absolutely no threat in comparison.

People are just a click away and their thoughts and opinions directed at you are gone, that's the best way to look at it - does it really matter what they call you

"

Does this post refer to regular forumites or completely new nicknames unheard of before ?

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over a year ago


"The way I look at it is that people on the internet are not 'real'. Of course they are but the only interaction I am having with them is a few written words on a website. They don't form any part of my life or have any input into it.

I spend time reading their opinions and responding when I wish to. But they are just one click out of my life, I can switch them off anytime I want.

All of my working life I have dealt with conflict situations on a daily basis. I have had no choice but to communicate effectively in order to diffuse situations, whilst having abusive names screamed at me and the very real threat of violence.

Therefore the online community of faceless people offering opinions whilst sitting on their sofas, sometimes becoming personal with snide insults are absolutely no threat in comparison.

People are just a click away and their thoughts and opinions directed at you are gone, that's the best way to look at it - does it really matter what they call you

"

very sensible.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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http://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

You can link to:

Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)

Youtube

Lovehoney

Wikipedia

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"I have just been called "..a keyboard warrior with a high opinion of himself" in a political Thread.

Fair enough maybe and while everyone is free to air their opinions of issues it came on the back of many other unnecessarily crass and rude comments to other people in Threads. Now I don't know about others but I find it quite wrong to be called 'Tory scum' or '"complete with stupid insults and cretinous accusations" or "racist".

And I have to wonder if its worth contributing to Forums when you leave yourself open to blatant abuse.

So: Has the t'internet caused us to lose the ability to argue, agree or diagree and then go down the pub for a pint. Or three. ??"
Why not take this to PMs?I've no desire to cause you any offence and I've already explained to you that you chose to take a general remark (about the low level of tribal political debate on here) personally, but you've carried on having a hissy fit after exposing yourself as talking nonsense with complete authority (in the Local Elections thread). First of all you told us the law allowed something, then you said the law didn't need to allow it, complete with a cod latin phrase that was both out of context and pretentious, then you went quiet when you got an answer you weren't expecting.

Don't want to be called a keyboard warrior? Don't make dishonest and unfounded assertions that you can't stand up. It's quite simple. If you really did believe what you claimed in that thread, explain how you came to your conclusions. Maybe even man up and apologise for having such a tantrum when you were wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I've heard of this but not experienced it. "

...runs off to type some abuse to Granny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I don't want her to fee left out

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Well make it worth reading. Sommat I can warm me cockles with ......

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said."

Have not read the topic where where you have been called a racist but having read a lot of your past postings would it be from a Scot that you were called racist bya any chance?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

Have not read the topic where where you have been called a racist but having read a lot of your past postings would it be from a Scot that you were called racist bya any chance?"

The thread was removed. Yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

Have not read the topic where where you have been called a racist but having read a lot of your past postings would it be from a Scot that you were called racist bya any chance?"

I don't dislike Scots people at all and I have many friends who are Scottish in fact. I've been to Scotland several times and found it a lovely place to visit. That doesn't detract from my political feelings that they should become an independent country.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

Have not read the topic where where you have been called a racist but having read a lot of your past postings would it be from a Scot that you were called racist bya any chance?

I don't dislike Scots people at all and I have many friends who are Scottish in fact. I've been to Scotland several times and found it a lovely place to visit. That doesn't detract from my political feelings that they should become an independent country. "

I know you'll think this is point scoring but it's not. The problem I think is that some people feel you'd like them to become independent whether they want to or not, which is more akin to divorce than devolution......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

Have not read the topic where where you have been called a racist but having read a lot of your past postings would it be from a Scot that you were called racist bya any chance?

I don't dislike Scots people at all and I have many friends who are Scottish in fact. I've been to Scotland several times and found it a lovely place to visit. That doesn't detract from my political feelings that they should become an independent country.

I know you'll think this is point scoring but it's not. The problem I think is that some people feel you'd like them to become independent whether they want to or not, which is more akin to divorce than devolution......"

I've always been consistent in my view that Scotland should be independent if they vote for it. On every 'Should Scotland blah blah blah' thread I've posted on I've said the same thing. I've also said that the English shouldn't have a vote on it as it wouldn't reflect how Scottish people feel about independence, and that's what we're really talking about here - how the majority of Scots feel about it, and it has to happen only if Scotland want it to.

The English weren't polled over any other territory that claimed independence and Scotland should be no different. Let them decide for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least they have the guts to stand up and be counted and not gutless tw@ts who snipe via PMs!

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ive had this, 'keyboard warriors' abusing me via pm, an blocking me so i cant reply!! you would think they were all sweetness too if you just read their forum posts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have just been called "..a keyboard warrior with a high opinion of himself" in a political Thread.

Fair enough maybe and while everyone is free to air their opinions of issues it came on the back of many other unnecessarily crass and rude comments to other people in Threads. Now I don't know about others but I find it quite wrong to be called 'Tory scum' or '"complete with stupid insults and cretinous accusations" or "racist".

And I have to wonder if its worth contributing to Forums when you leave yourself open to blatant abuse.

So: Has the t'internet caused us to lose the ability to argue, agree or diagree and then go down the pub for a pint. Or three. ??"
Ah a pint or three my kind of man,the pen is mighter than the sowrd,(or the key board)i myself would rather go down the pub meet who ever and argue the point and have a pint or three regardless of there political veiws,HOWEVER,it is a little anoying when we keep harping back to its all labours fault when you torys oops (conservative) no fine well that they have both made mistakes .Its like them on the front benches in the commons,insted of standing slaging each other off .you did that no we did not. gen down to work and do the job we paye you for .

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

The thread has gone. It's no longer here for evidence.

I don't remember anyone being called a racist.

I DO remember someone saying that a post was racist and inflammatory.

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By *ixson-BallsMan
over a year ago

Blackpool

...and another post slides along the tangent

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"The thread has gone. It's no longer here for evidence.

I don't remember anyone being called a racist.

I DO remember someone saying that a post was racist and inflammatory.

"

I didn't even remember the thread never mind the post

There are lots of people accusing others of being racist lately....but there are borderline racist posts too so maybe I am not surprised it has gone.

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire

with todays society, the racist word is used for even the slightest amount of 'patriotism', imo.

i remember the thread VERY well, and also remember also being termed as racist, for DARING to question immigration.

the internet is where people that dont have the confidence to say anything get to vent their spleen on everyday topics, and as such, probably step over the line a little.

i like a mass debate as well as the next man, but when it turns to insults, as opposed to clearly thought out arguments (which, as much as i HATE thier political leaning, i like reading posts from the likes of excession and georgeyporgey, as well as wishy, but i agree with a lot he/she says) i usually leave the thread or tell them exactly what i think of them.

tend to find also, that KW wont answer a question, but will just skip past and give more insults.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Who is K.W ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Okay Okay Im there now ..........

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By *ovedupstillCouple
over a year ago

mullinwire


"Who is K.W ?"

keyboard warriors.

just cba to type it,

which this post negates lol

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I got there! I got there !

Ping!

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over a year ago


"I have just been called "..a keyboard warrior with a high opinion of himself" in a political Thread.

Fair enough maybe and while everyone is free to air their opinions of issues it came on the back of many other unnecessarily crass and rude comments to other people in Threads. Now I don't know about others but I find it quite wrong to be called 'Tory scum' or '"complete with stupid insults and cretinous accusations" or "racist".

And I have to wonder if its worth contributing to Forums when you leave yourself open to blatant abuse.

So: Has the t'internet caused us to lose the ability to argue, agree or diagree and then go down the pub for a pint. Or three. ??Why not take this to PMs?I've no desire to cause you any offence and I've already explained to you that you chose to take a general remark (about the low level of tribal political debate on here) personally, but you've carried on having a hissy fit after exposing yourself as talking nonsense with complete authority (in the Local Elections thread). First of all you told us the law allowed something, then you said the law didn't need to allow it, complete with a cod latin phrase that was both out of context and pretentious, then you went quiet when you got an answer you weren't expecting.

Don't want to be called a keyboard warrior? Don't make dishonest and unfounded assertions that you can't stand up. It's quite simple. If you really did believe what you claimed in that thread, explain how you came to your conclusions. Maybe even man up and apologise for having such a tantrum when you were wrong.

"

Some years ago someone said on here: "Why let the truth intrude on a good flaming ..." And it is still relevant.

And so with this quoted post you all now know who was at the root of this Thread and which has defeated the point of me not naming anyone.

I was actually asking a wider question and not having a 'hissy fit' or being in any way dishonest as this man says and I think all the replies (bar this one) have shown a wide and varied range of views and advice as was hoped when I asked the question.

And on that note I really think the Forums are not for me after all. But thanks to all those that made me think more, smile more and who shared some good natured banter.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I disagree. I'd have never known who you were 'getting' at if you hadn't just pointed it out.

The poster asked you to take it to P.M.

From what I can see no one flamed you either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Charlie, don't take it to heart. You get know the posters on here afrer a while, and you get to know those who are almost like career contrarians.

I actually feel like I've acheived something when someone feels antagonised by something I've said (and I am careful never to directly insult anyone), as it means I've got to them one way or another. I don't mind being liked or disliked but it's like an itch I can't scratch when someone ignores me.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"I was also labelled a racist today by someone I've usually got on quite well with (I thought).

What I find really irriatating is the reluctance to read what has actually been said and understand basic English. I don't talk in hieroglyphs so it's quite a simple task to figure out what I'm saying from what I've ..er... said.

Have not read the topic where where you have been called a racist but having read a lot of your past postings would it be from a Scot that you were called racist bya any chance?

I don't dislike Scots people at all and I have many friends who are Scottish in fact. I've been to Scotland several times and found it a lovely place to visit. That doesn't detract from my political feelings that they should become an independent country. "

If that is true then what about one of your most recent posts where you threatened to go to Austalia if Labour ever got back in power then a cpl of posts down you stated on second thought I dont think i would as there will be too many Scots there and that is one of more than a few posts where you were a little more thasn insulting towards the Scots.

If you dont like us then be man enough to say it as its glaringly obvious anyway.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Think maybe this has run it's course now.

As always, check out the summary at the top of the rules before people post and you can't go far wrong.

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