FabSwingers.com forum: Transvestite Description

By *illy_the_tv OP TV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

I was just nosing around on the internet when I came across an Eddie Izzard interview. Commenting on his transvestism he described himself as 'I'm a complete boy, plus half a girl' and I realised that his description fits perfectly in line with myself.

So other tvs out there, how would you describe your transvestism

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How can you be something and a half? So hes 100% boy with 50% girl? That doesnt make any sense!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can you be something and a half? So hes 100% boy with 50% girl? That doesnt make any sense!"

We are talking about Eddie Izzard

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

I'm a naughty attention seeking woman and a shy introvert man, so I'm in balance , bit of ying yang thing going on x

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By *enniferJayXXXTV/TS
over a year ago

Stoke-On-Trent

I just wish Fabs would stop clashing Trans women with dress up

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By *illy_the_tv OP TV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I just wish Fabs would stop clashing Trans women with dress up

I dont see how that's relevant, also calling transvestites 'dress up' is also pretty offensive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just wish Fabs would stop clashing Trans women with dress up

I dont see how that's relevant, also calling transvestites 'dress up' is also pretty offensive"

It's the hierarchy, innit.

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By *hedevilKTWoman
over a year ago

milton keynes

Gunna get abuse now but there’s a difference between trans Who put in the effort and a guy who wears a pair of undies not in same league in my opinion

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

Ok so...if a TV is all man and 50% woman, what do I call you?

Serious question and I really don't want to come across as rude but I have no idea. If I see a trans person I will obviously refer to them as whatever they present as. Is that the same rule with a TV?

(Brat)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gunna get abuse now but there’s a difference between trans Who put in the effort and a guy who wears a pair of undies not in same league in my opinion"

Shush! You're not supposed to say that.

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By *illy_the_tv OP TV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"Ok so...if a TV is all man and 50% woman, what do I call you?

(Brat)"

I'm not saying that that description is across the board for all TVs, just that his description of his own trandvestism resonates with me personally.

As for referring to people in person you just call them whatever they want to be called. If in in lilly mode I want to be called lilly, it would be weird if I was dressed as lilly and someone called me by my real name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use to get this way but now that

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

I meant pronouns. Hate to admit but I'm all kinds of confused when it comes to tvs. I don't want to offend anyone by referring to them as she when they're a guy.

Do I just follow the rule of what mode you're in at the time?

Sorry if this is inappropriate just tell me, ive just never had the chance to ask

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By *notherGirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Somewhere

I’d describe it as ‘indescribable’

So confusing isn’t it?

You want to see some people’s expression when you do the boy dressed as girl dressed as boy thing.

Self labelling is pointless. I’m me. Simple as that. Why analyse? Everyone is different. You don’t need to understand.

If you like the look of someone, smile and interact.

If you don’t like the look of someone, just smile.

xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok so...if a TV is all man and 50% woman, what do I call you?

(Brat)

I'm not saying that that description is across the board for all TVs, just that his description of his own trandvestism resonates with me personally.

I agree with this. Some used to only call me by my femme name as did not know real name, so went back to using a nick in male mode for the scene

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By *illy_the_tv OP TV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I meant pronouns. Hate to admit but I'm all kinds of confused when it comes to tvs. I don't want to offend anyone by referring to them as she when they're a guy.

Do I just follow the rule of what mode you're in at the time?

Sorry if this is inappropriate just tell me, ive just never had the chance to ask

Honestly the easiest option is if your in the situation is just to ask, it's not offensive to ask how someone wants to be referred to. Personally if I'm lilly I'd prefer to be addressed as if I was a woman as to me, that is what I am at that moment

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I was on the well known tv site for a number of years there was everything from trans to hpw. I soon learnt to take everyone as an individual and never mae assumptions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I meant pronouns. Hate to admit but I'm all kinds of confused when it comes to tvs. I don't want to offend anyone by referring to them as she when they're a guy.

Do I just follow the rule of what mode you're in at the time?

Sorry if this is inappropriate just tell me, ive just never had the chance to ask

Not inappropriate at all. It's nice for people to take a genuine interest.

Safest bet is to use the pronoun most appropriate to how that person is presenting.

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

"I meant pronouns. Hate to admit but I'm all kinds of confused when it comes to tvs. I don't want to offend anyone by referring to them as she when they're a guy.

Do I just follow the rule of what mode you're in at the time?

Sorry if this is inappropriate just tell me, ive just never had the chance to ask

We are a confusing bunch all put under one umbrella.

If it's a hairy bloke with just a pair of thrilly knickers on I would guess that you refer to them as "he", but full on top to toe dressed and make up I think then it should be "she" , us trannys put a lot of effort in. Then the transsexual truly (i think) have a legal right to be refered to as she, and they have earnt the title from the efort and challenges they have put in.

As for me it's about a feeling inside, the sex side is just a cherry on top.

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

Thank you for all your answers. Definitely going to be more relaxed about it now

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

"Thank you for all your answers. Definitely going to be more relaxed about it now

We don't bit, unless that's what you enjoy, lol xxx

Its quite nice that you asked, it help with understanding , one of the biggest misconceptions is people's sexuality, just because someone puts on a pair of silky knickers is not an indication that they are queer , some just like the feel of it. X

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

What Chloe & Jennie say is spot on. Shy plain guy mixed with extrovert girl here. I can do things as Gemma I'd never dare do in guy mode. I'm not talking naughty lol, just life stuff & experiences. There is an assumption however that all who dress are bi/gay. Nothing wrong with that but for those like me who only fancy females? That assumption is a bloody nuisance! I'm attracted to girls no matter the mode, so am straight male & lesbian female combined.

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

"Thank you for all your answers. Definitely going to be more relaxed about it now

We don't bit, unless that's what you enjoy, lol xxx

Well that's why I asked. TS are finally getting a voice to provide answers in mainstream media but TVs are still very taboo and hushed so fab/swinging has been my only source of education on the subject really.

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

"Thank you for all your answers. Definitely going to be more relaxed about it now

We don't bit, unless that's what you enjoy, lol xxx

Wish more people would make an effort to understand, but fab makes it difficult as a MASIVE difference between a crossdresser and a transsexual but all put under the TV umbrella, most important is that we are all difrent with diffrent desires and needs but all beautiful people trying to enjoy life. X

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"I'm a naughty attention seeking woman and a shy introvert man, so I'm in balance , bit of ying yang thing going on x "

That sounds very much like myself.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

I describe myself as a Tgirl, it's a category on Chix but not on here but sums up perfectly how I view myself x

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

We're all on a journey of self discovery & we all find a level we're happy (ish) with, while some inevitably go all the way to transition. There's nothing wrong with anyone at any stage along the way, it's all learning how it feels & what is right for the individual.

I have to exist day to day in guy mode but do Gemma to the very best of my abilities, all self taught. For me the change came when I got my wigs & I could see there was a viable girl in the mirror & developed it enough to venture out in public now & again. I think at that "public" point I changed from CDTV to Tgirl in my head. It's not about any hierarchy, it's about psychological stuff. I'm Gemma 24/7 in my head even if the outside shell is in guy mode. Everything I do is looking to the next opprtunity to get the girl out if the box & in the mirror

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By *hezuMan
over a year ago

London

Looool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looool "

???

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"What Chloe & Jennie say is spot on. Shy plain guy mixed with extrovert girl here. I can do things as Gemma I'd never dare do in guy mode. I'm not talking naughty lol, just life stuff & experiences. There is an assumption however that all who dress are bi/gay. Nothing wrong with that but for those like me who only fancy females? That assumption is a bloody nuisance! I'm attracted to girls no matter the mode, so am straight male & lesbian female combined.

Can we be sisters as I'm exactly the same as you.

Sisters who dont like sisters

Seriously though, me wearing a dress is nothing to do with my sexuality, yes I sometimes use it for sexual purposes too but essentially i do this for me and me alone.

I am more extrovert as Sophie as anyone who knows me will tell you.

I can get away with a lot more too especially with women as I'm far friendlier and maybe seen as a kindred spirit as I know what women put up with from some men first hand and also know how much effort it can be to look good.

There is a huge difference for me between myself and a TS, I wrestled with not knowing what I was for most of my life and happily I have found my place in it all.

I dont have to present as a female day to day nor have to deal with the huge changes to life that journeying down the transition road takes you....you TS women have my utmost respect and admiration.

Call me what you like, a tgirl, crossdresser, TV, CD and the rest.

If it's done with a little respect and friendliness then we will get along just fine. Do it from a place where you're trying to put me down and you will find out I'm no wallflower.

Everyone is different and that's what we should be embracing, not stuffing us all into a little box with a label as that's a dick move.

Enjoy life and fuxk the haters

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

Sisters who dont like misters...bloody spellcheck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Looool "

Why Looool?

Have I missed something?

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By *hedevilKTWoman
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Sisters who dont like misters...bloody spellcheck!

Did wonder what u were coming out with there

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"Sisters who dont like misters...bloody spellcheck!

Did wonder what u were coming out with there

And I'm not even d*unk

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By *hedevilKTWoman
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Sisters who dont like misters...bloody spellcheck!

Did wonder what u were coming out with there

And I'm not even d*unk

Makes it even funnier lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh i dont know what i am anymore , i just put the frock and slap on and then i let her fuck me . Then in return she lets me drink gin afterwards and my pains just float away down some lonely river

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By *notherGirlTV/TS
over a year ago

Somewhere

"Oh i dont know what i am anymore , i just put the frock and slap on and then i let her fuck me . Then in return she lets me drink gin afterwards and my pains just float away down some lonely river "

Oh I know that river.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we be sisters as I'm exactly the same as you.

Sisters who dont like sisters

Seriously though, me wearing a dress is nothing to do with my sexuality, yes I sometimes use it for sexual purposes too but essentially i do this for me and me alone.

I am more extrovert as Sophie as anyone who knows me will tell you.

There is a huge difference for me between myself and a TS, I wrestled with not knowing what I was for most of my life and happily I have found my place in it all.

I dont have to present as a female day to day nor have to deal with the huge changes to life that journeying down the transition road takes you....you TS women have my utmost respect and admiration.

Call me what you like, a tgirl, crossdresser, TV, CD and the rest.

If it's done with a little respect and friendliness then we will get along just fine. Do it from a place where you're trying to put me down and you will find out I'm no wallflower.

Everyone is different and that's what we should be embracing, not stuffing us all into a little box with a label as that's a dick move.

Enjoy life and fuxk the haters

What Sophie Said........

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By *hezuMan
over a year ago

London

"Looool

Why Looool?

Have I missed something?"

Maybe

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"Looool

Why Looool?

Have I missed something?

Maybe"

Or maybe not....are you hoping one of us will dress you up as you're barking up the wrong tree MATE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can you be something and a half? So hes 100% boy with 50% girl? That doesnt make any sense!"

Isn't that Cadbury chocolate selling point ? Oh no wait,theirs is glass and a half

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh i dont know what i am anymore , i just put the frock and slap on and then i let her fuck me . Then in return she lets me drink gin afterwards and my pains just float away down some lonely river

Oh I know that river.

Cry me that river ... and i have many times whilst pushing pollocks back inside my anus whilst she snores on the sofa

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shedevilkt, that's correct that transvestites are just dressing up on a temporary basis, and trans girls/guys are the gender they identify as. If anyone has a problem with what has been said about this, it is THEIR problem, as trans people are not freaks or perverts going into women's toilets for neferious reasons.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

I think it's high time they had separate catagories as it's a bit of joke in this day and age.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I think it's high time they had separate catagories as it's a bit of joke in this day and age."

This seems sensible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No idea where I fit in, my earliest memories are of me wearing my mum's clothes. From an early age I wanted to be a girl, in my early teens I told my mum and she went ballistic and since then it's been a dirty secret. Now I still see myself as female but I must have enough male inside me to stop me going mad.

Sexually I don't know where I fit in either, as a male I'm 95% straight, I wouldn't dream of looking at someone else either but as Christine I'm totally bi and comfortable with it.

Honestly I don't know where I fit in or what to call myself or even where to turn to for advice

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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

I was at at talk/ debate on this very subject on Monday last.

The two things are gender and sexuality. One is essentially how you see yourself and portray your appearance to others - gender.

The other is what preference of who you have sex with.

Use of the correct pronoun ( he/she) is respecting that gender.

It is a big debate in LGBT circles as to the current evolution of describing people and what is correct.

With changes in the law it makes the freedom to express your sexuality more openly in public, this is becoming more widespread and many people are no longer hiding there gender, be it male female or that widening group of what I call ‘inbetweenies’.

The debate btw was with what were essentially a male/female audience.

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

Tbh I've never given it much thought. I like to dress and am bi. Label me how you want I don't mind.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"How can you be something and a half? So hes 100% boy with 50% girl? That doesnt make any sense!"

Its Eddie he likes to play

And some one above agrees with him thus it makes perfect sense

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Geezer bird..

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

I’m a normal guy who loves dressing in lingerie and stockings, why should women be the only ones who dress?

Heels, nylons and lingerie make me feel good, I even get an erection from wearing them.

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

Why do I put a dress on and prance around ?

From a VERY early age my best friend and worst enimy was "chloe".

Sometimes I would see her in the mirror , other times she would whisper to me "You would look pretty in that dress".

As time went on she would dance around my bedroom in borrowed clothes. Other times she would just be a distant thought and some times she was my rock when life got very difficult, she took me away from everything.

As time went on she became real when she ventured out of the bedroom and very very real when she went shopping and started to go to clubs.

She is still my best friend but she is as mad as a box of frogs and really good fun .

I call her "she" and her club friends call her she , it's her friends veiws that really matter to her . And she loves them all.

For me it's a feeling inside and sexuality is a separate thing altogether.

Not sure why I wrote this or even if anyone reads it but I wish you all a great day xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many of us would choose to be 100% our birth assigned gender if we could?

I would, life would have been a lot simpler/easier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many of us would choose to be 100% our birth assigned gender if we could?

I would, life would have been a lot simpler/easier"

I am 100% my birth assigned gender .. " Character " and gender are two different things altogether ... Im a man in a dress , sometimes , and then that part of my character is allowed to flurish .. At that point though her who must be obeyed usually takes my ass for a ride so any further flourishing is done mainly over the kitchen sink .. Im always a boy though ..

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

Tranvestism completes me.

I have found my other half.

Love and accept both sides of me hence my profile.

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom

"I was just nosing around on the internet when I came across an Eddie Izzard interview. Commenting on his transvestism he described himself as 'I'm a complete boy, plus half a girl' and I realised that his description fits perfectly in line with myself.

So other tvs out there, how would you describe your transvestism"

I have always used the term "trans-polar". When I'm dressed I act and do things I wouldn't dream of doing in boy mode. It's like I slip into a new persona - that of a total slut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gunna get abuse now but there’s a difference between trans Who put in the effort and a guy who wears a pair of undies not in same league in my opinion"

So have to agree with you. A guy in a pair of undies no ta. But a person who makes an effort to look like a lady is very sexy indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tricky.

There is, of course, a huge variety in feelings and effort and appearance. From HPW to TS. Fab doesn’t help with the one option TV/TS.

But..... there’s a huge variety in everyone I meet in the Trans World. And nearly everyone has a slightly different view on the way they view their gender and sexuality.

For example, I describe myself as a T Girl. I try to look as femme as I can. From head to toe. My sexuality is fluid but generically Pansexual works for me.

I have lots of great friends who are a variety of CDs to TSs and they’re all different.

I suppose my conclusion (after this long ramble, sorry about that) would be....

Every human is different. Treat us that way. If I’m doubt about pronouns or in fact anything - I ask. It’s not offensive. It’s considerate.

‘When you were young and your heart was an open book

You used to say live and let live’

Have a good day. Thanks for reading.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would hope things were becoming more open and understanding and as many have said everyone is different.

Dressing does not sexually excite me but does other things.

Remember one of my first chats with a TS who called me a coward for not having the change - not everyone feels they need it

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

"Sisters who dont like misters...bloody spellcheck!

Haha. Your bigger reply is perfect & fits me almost exactly. Cool babe it'd be fun to have a sister, always wanted one but never had one. Finding that place & working out where you are & how far you need or don't need to go with dressing etc is a huge relief when you finally find that safe place. Not everyone finds it & those who seek it out & transition have my huge respect for being so brave.

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

"Tranvestism completes me.

I have found my other half.

Love and accept both sides of me hence my profile."

That's the very thing. I feel balanced since stopping fighting it & accepting Gemma isn't going away, nor should I put her away on her boxes. Saves a whole heap of stress & angst. Plus my life has changed beyond anything I could have dreamed of going out & showing my girl to the outside world. X

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey

Remember one of my first chats with a TS who called me a coward for not having the change - not everyone feels they need it"

There was lots of this on roses forum a few years ago. Bloody dangerous stuff filling people's heads with things they didn't need to hear. I went thru all manner of upset & worry until one day the pink fog cleared & I found myself a nice settled place to exist somewhere between boy & girl & feel so lucky I found it. You have to face stuff down to see if it's for you or not; it's the only way to learn how you feel about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would hope things were becoming more open and understanding and as many have said everyone is different.

Dressing does not sexually excite me but does other things.

Remember one of my first chats with a TS who called me a coward for not having the change - not everyone feels they need it"

Many trans people who live as their true gender rather than their birth assigned one, don’t have surgical intervention.

Let’s face it only they and their lovers know for sure if they’ve had the op. If their dysmorphia doesn’t drive them to seek medical help then who’s to tell them they need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember one of my first chats with a TS who called me a coward for not having the change - not everyone feels they need it

Well done you for finding your equilibrium than getting swept along.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My understanding, there 3 variations here...

CD’s - Guys who enjoy to dress purely for sexual gratification.

TV’s - Guys who enjoy to become female but not wanting to transition.

TS - Women who have followed through with the transition (fully or partly) & whom live as such, full time.

Of course, just my view on what I see but hey, labels are for food & clothes so who cares right? Live & love your life

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

"My understanding, there 3 variations here...

CD’s - Guys who enjoy to dress purely for sexual gratification.

TV’s - Guys who enjoy to become female but not wanting to transition.

TS - Women who have followed through with the transition (fully or partly) & whom live as such, full time.

Of course, just my view on what I see but hey, labels are for food & clothes so who cares right? Live & love your life

Don't think your too far off the mark there for those that want to label things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am a TV as I wear only so called female knickers and socks every day and most nights a night dress or female PJ's. Plus I have more more female clothes then male.

But I done tests years ago and the head doctor said I had a higher level of female brain then most men. As we all are not fully male or female. So am happy as a male but am also submissive and love being girly.

I would love to be able to dress fully every day and I do when I can .But I know I can't pass as female because of my male built so I just dress alone at home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But do you all think that it's not fair that women can now days dress fully as a man and walk around and no one says anything. But if I go out and someone finds out am just wearing knickers I can get beat up. And it does happen.

Every girl on here can wear jeans or wear a suit or a blue jumper. I wear a skirt a dress or a pink jumper I get made fun of and my windows put in where I live.

A woman can say she wants a daddy or a master

And guys on here think that's alright.

I say I want a Mummy or a Mistress a lot of guys think am sick or pathetic.

Guys are scared to say they bi but they get turned on by bi females.

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