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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh

Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness"

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?"

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

I’ve never heard of him either ... bring back Sam fox and mick fleetwood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop."

I’m with you on this one .... at the risk of likely uproar!

R x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread "

Awsome. Amazing answer thanks.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

I didn't see the Brits, I'm not a huge fan but I really enjoyed his Glastonbury performance.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread "

Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him....

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh....

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread

Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him.... "

Awesome suggestion Granny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Never heard of him, so no idea if he's awesome or not.

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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread

Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him.... "

I’m so sorry that I didn’t make it blindingly obviously what I was talking about. Again, my sincere apologies for forcefully making you post on a thread where your have no knowledge of the subject.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh...."

I don't find Romesh funny....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love his music and was brilliant in Top boy as well

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh....

I don't find Romesh funny.... "

I do know who he is though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread

Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him....

I’m so sorry that I didn’t make it blindingly obviously what I was talking about. Again, my sincere apologies for forcefully making you post on a thread where your have no knowledge of the subject. "

Someone actually engage with you and asked you why you think he is incredible!

Or were you juat after Ya Dave Rocks comments

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By *azza72Man
over a year ago

Leeds

Preferred him when Chas was still with us , rip Chas

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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know. "

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never heard of him..

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread "

a question was asked. No need to get sarcastic. I've never heard of him either. Was a load of shite if you ask me

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

"

Nobody else had posted. I sometimes do that just to bump a thread. I saw it as a nice thing to ask.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness"

Yes he's brilliant xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread

Don't miss out the opportunity to give as good answers to others that have never heard of him....

I’m so sorry that I didn’t make it blindingly obviously what I was talking about. Again, my sincere apologies for forcefully making you post on a thread where your have no knowledge of the subject. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given "

Yet here you are , commenting about him on a sex site forum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Yes he's brilliant xxxx"

He is very very talented ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dave who? I never watched the Brits but I'll check his performance out

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Yes he's brilliant xxxx

He is very very talented , "

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I've seen the clip of his " performance " .

Utter fucking drivel !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen the clip of his " performance " .

Utter fucking drivel !!"

You can’t please everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given

Yet here you are , commenting about him on a sex site forum "

Exactly! He’s not trying to be edgy or a jumped up tit like a lot of other artists trying too hard these days like that Yungblud creep. He’s just Dave

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I've seen the clip of his " performance " .

Utter fucking drivel !!

You can’t please everyone "

True

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’d never heard of him either. Belly laughed when I heard someone just called ‘Dave’ was nominated tho! Zero fucks given

Yet here you are , commenting about him on a sex site forum

Exactly! He’s not trying to be edgy or a jumped up tit like a lot of other artists trying too hard these days like that Yungblud creep. He’s just Dave "

I agree. He is multi talented and a good role model for kids , what isn’t to like about him

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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread a question was asked. No need to get sarcastic. I've never heard of him either. Was a load of shite if you ask me "

Again, imagine not being able to utilise google. It’s not like the thread title isn’t blindingly obvious what I was talking about.

I’m all for opinions from people that either saw it or people that know of him. Each to their own. I still don’t know what “I’ve never heard of him” brings to the table

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

"

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well this escalated quickly......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Utter dial a cliche rubbish.

Where's that bandwagon gotta jump on it

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Grime music is cack in my opinion, so I've never heard of him either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. "

Can you really teach people on a sex site forum? I agree with OP I would have thought google was a better option?

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Very powerful performance and clearly a talented bloke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Utter dial a cliche rubbish.

Where's that bandwagon gotta jump on it"

I don't think a middle aged couple from Cornwall are his target audience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that "

Was he racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And is that him on This Morning with the balaclava on? Wanting to be a major ffs

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Because he is part of the minority who have been and still are harshly treated against.... still happens... if ever you need reminding of how racist a society we are then go and buy a copy of the Daily Mail and grab a pen. Now highlight every story where ethnicity is used in a negative term

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should stick to that "music" and keep out of politics imo

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By *uited staffs guyMan
over a year ago

staffordshire

He said the PM was racist, to be fair there’s a pretty large body of work of his own words and actions that you can back that up with

What did he say that was racist about other people though?

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By *kbloke_11Man
over a year ago

Hockley

Do any of his comments make him a racist? Just curious

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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange. "

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

The fact he does involves politics means we are now all talking about it... exactly that ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He said the PM was racist, to be fair there’s a pretty large body of work of his own words and actions that you can back that up with

What did he say that was racist about other people though?"

Exactly. He’s entitled to his opinion about the prime minister. I didn’t see anything racist he said himself tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that "

In what way was he openly racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?"

Yup. Personally I think it’s a bit yawnsville but it generates headlines, news articles and top of the hour stories on the 24hr news channels which means KERCHING for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?

Yup. Personally I think it’s a bit yawnsville but it generates headlines, news articles and top of the hour stories on the 24hr news channels which means KERCHING for him "

My point exactly

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

"

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid "

I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?

"

Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that "

At what point was he being racist??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?

Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago. "

It didn’t, my point was that his performance wasn’t original?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual. "

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?

Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago.

It didn’t, my point was that his performance wasn’t original? "

Very little is totally original. But that doesn't stop it from being relevant. Or entertaining for that matter.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?"

That's sort of the definition of politics...

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod

over a year ago

My Own Little World

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLS2IzZSdg

There you go OP I have done the hard work for you, maybe it will stop you being snarky to people who have no idea what/who you are on about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

That's sort of the definition of politics... "

By politicians.. not some rapper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

That's sort of the definition of politics...

By politicians.. not some rapper"

Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

That's sort of the definition of politics...

By politicians.. not some rapper

Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics? "

No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics

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By *affeine DuskMan
over a year ago

Caerphilly

This post, trending more than the Brits did.

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By *urtyGent OP   Man
over a year ago

eastleigh


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid

I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question. "

And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just googled him...he's shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

That's sort of the definition of politics...

By politicians.. not some rapper

Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics?

No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics"

So he isn’t allowed to mention politics? Sounds like North Korea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just googled him...he's shit "

He will be gutted when he finds out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just googled him...he's shit

He will be gutted when he finds out "

I'm sure the op will let me know I'm wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

That's sort of the definition of politics...

By politicians.. not some rapper

Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics?

No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics"

There’s been protest songs since pop music began tho. Didn’t the sex pistols call the monarchy a fascist regime? Let people in the industry voice their opinions I say, people don’t make their minds up from what their celebrity idols tell them to think.

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales


"Didn’t Stormzy do the whole politics thing at the Brits back in 2018?

Oh, blimey, I never realised politics stopped two years ago. "

Very well put with the right shade of sarcasm

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough


"I thought Dave had enough on their plate with Top Gear,Taskmaster and Judge Romesh....

I don't find Romesh funny....

I do know who he is though."

He's certainly funnier than Nish and I like his deadpan sarcasm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that

If you can vote, then politics is relevant to everyone. I'm in IT but talk about politics. Maybe I shouldn't?

As a performer he has a platform to reach people disengaged from politics (and even society). If he can reach them, then excellent.

I thought he's was pretty factual.

Or is he doing this to influence others to agree with what he thinks?

That's sort of the definition of politics...

By politicians.. not some rapper

Are politicians the only people allowed an opinion on politics?

No, but their opinion is their opinion.. when a rapper starts calling people racist and spreading their own agenda, thats not politics"

So to have an opinion on racisim or politics in general he should quit rapping?

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid

I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question.

And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?"

Actually she never asked who he was on her first comment. She said she didn't know who he was. It was not a challenge, it was not a "you are wrong", it was a genuine question.

Then asked why is he incredible. If she googled that she would not actually find out directly why it is incredible, just information about him. You are the one (and others) saying it is incredible. She is requesting your opinion on why you think this.

Your lack of willingness to share and turn it in to sarcasm and then an argument is the problem with issues like this the world over, people are not willing to discuss subjects and issues, just be in a position full of yes men and have their opinions agreed with.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid

I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question.

And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?

Actually she never asked who he was on her first comment. She said she didn't know who he was. It was not a challenge, it was not a "you are wrong", it was a genuine question.

Then asked why is he incredible. If she googled that she would not actually find out directly why it is incredible, just information about him. You are the one (and others) saying it is incredible. She is requesting your opinion on why you think this.

Your lack of willingness to share and turn it in to sarcasm and then an argument is the problem with issues like this the world over, people are not willing to discuss subjects and issues, just be in a position full of yes men and have their opinions agreed with."

So instead of trying to educate you just add to the hate so to speak. Which is actually one of the issues with racism, the lack of willingness to learn and educate. Take a look at Anthony Mackie's recent interview for a great example of talking to educate and learn.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid

I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question.

And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?"

No but I can see you chasing your tail so that you don't have to answer a simple polite question.

I'll agree to totally ignore you - it'll will be easy and you do the same for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

I know how to use Google. I'll show you if you like.

You are right about opinons and having nothing to offer though. You can teach me that in exchange.

Thanks for the offer, I’ll decline

As for opinions, maybe if you’ve no knowledge of something perhaps best if you say nothing for fear of looking silly on a public forum. An opinion and a platform with which to voice it doesn’t make that opinion valid

I didn't pass an opinion. I asked a question.

And then offered up an opinion as to how I should’ve answered you. Can you see the circles we are running around in?

Actually she never asked who he was on her first comment. She said she didn't know who he was. It was not a challenge, it was not a "you are wrong", it was a genuine question.

Then asked why is he incredible. If she googled that she would not actually find out directly why it is incredible, just information about him. You are the one (and others) saying it is incredible. She is requesting your opinion on why you think this.

Your lack of willingness to share and turn it in to sarcasm and then an argument is the problem with issues like this the world over, people are not willing to discuss subjects and issues, just be in a position full of yes men and have their opinions agreed with.

So instead of trying to educate you just add to the hate so to speak. Which is actually one of the issues with racism, the lack of willingness to learn and educate. Take a look at Anthony Mackie's recent interview for a great example of talking to educate and learn. "

BOOM!!! Nailed it ^

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLS2IzZSdg

There you go OP I have done the hard work for you, maybe it will stop you being snarky to people who have no idea what/who you are on about."

And I just played that link on you tube. Sorry OP, to me it was just a boring monologue about what it means to be black, not even proper rap. Had a white person got onstage and performed something similar, people would have been up in arms, not clapping and cheering. Definately NOT a legend in my eyes.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

DAVE for myself was rubbish how people can listen to that crap is beyond me

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I thought his performance was amazing and really thought provoking. I also thought it was a lovely touch to include a tribute to the 2 victims of the London terror attacks

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Don't say it was only me that was expecting Rodney Trotter to appear on stage

Ohh and for the record I listen to alot of music and I'd never heard of him ..and thought he was pish ..just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

Never heard of him.

Why is he incredible ?

Awesome. Great contribution to the thread

Awsome. Amazing answer thanks.

"

If we are ever going to get away from judging people by religion or colour then people have to stop highlighting that they are black white or whatever I agree if someone who is white released a song highlighting they are white it would be the big R

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Very powerful performance and clearly a talented bloke "

I must admit, I don't think I was particularly aware of him either, but I totally agree with you and thought it was a great performance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately I do no of him my opinion is he's shite but again my music is not what the kids like so each to there own that's what music should be about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Google inverse racism, and give it some thought

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop."

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot"

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Maybe spend less time criticising boris, and more time criticising gang culture and the glorification of drug related crime.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLS2IzZSdg

There you go OP I have done the hard work for you, maybe it will stop you being snarky to people who have no idea what/who you are on about.

And I just played that link on you tube. Sorry OP, to me it was just a boring monologue about what it means to be black, not even proper rap. Had a white person got onstage and performed something similar, people would have been up in arms, not clapping and cheering. Definately NOT a legend in my eyes. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me..."

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe spend less time criticising boris, and more time criticising gang culture and the glorification of drug related crime. "

Why when Boris is an outspoken racist? And he does criticise gang culture so I’m guessing you did not really listen to it

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Maybe spend less time criticising boris, and more time criticising gang culture and the glorification of drug related crime. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot "

What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart"

But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why was Dave openly allowed to be racist yet if a white person sand those lyrics they would have been boo’d of the stage.

People like him add to the negative racist society that some live in. Every race have those who have beliefs we don’t all agree with.

He’s a singer not a politician he needs to remember that "

Can you advise as to how he was racist

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?"

What about everyone else who died in house fires? Didn't their lives matter?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!"

He did it innocently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!"

Nope. 30 people went to jail for joint enterprise and he was one of. This happened when he was a kid 16. He personally didn’t harm anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?

What about everyone else who died in house fires? Didn't their lives matter?"

.

Yeah but as the government is dragging their heels On the most highlighted fire in the UK for the last 10 years he thought he’d point it out. Can’t do it all aye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!

Nope. 30 people went to jail for joint enterprise and he was one of. This happened when he was a kid 16. He personally didn’t harm anyone"

so not innocent then was he and he wasn't a kid at 16 young adult that should have known better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!"

2 brothers in prison.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!

Nope. 30 people went to jail for joint enterprise and he was one of. This happened when he was a kid 16. He personally didn’t harm anyone"

Guilty by association - he was involved in gang related criminality - thus, not innocent in my eyes

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message"

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How I met my ex is one of my fav songs of the past few years. Amazing lyrically.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll stop there lol gonna be hard to explain how inner city London is to people who aren’t from there and not interested to really learn just criticise.

I’ll ask why can you guys criticise him but he can’t criticise the government. Are they right for the treatment of Grenfell victims ? What’s the harm in him calling them out? That’s what your all doing here to him lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones. "

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Best thing about the Brits was Harry’s yellow suit....

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

What about him paying respect to grenfell victims?

What about everyone else who died in house fires? Didn't their lives matter?.

Yeah but as the government is dragging their heels On the most highlighted fire in the UK for the last 10 years he thought he’d point it out. Can’t do it all aye"

What do you want the government to do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Provide adequate housing and acknowledge Boris is racist

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

City Boy Joy

Somethings get through to some people some of the time.

Respect for keeping it civil and thought provoking x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Best thing about the Brits was Harry’s yellow suit...."

What about his lacy white baby romper?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "

There are also black on black racists too. I dont want this to continue in my inbox thanks, this is a public forum. White on black, black on white, white on white or black on black. Its all the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "

Just to give a bit of context on this.

Its about feeling oppressed and defined by something about yourself.

For instance when I used ti visit my sister at Uni in Belfast in the 90's it wasnt being white that had me on edge it was being Irish.

It wasnt being white that caused Army patrols to stop our car and put Automatic rifles to the windows it was the Rep Of Ireland car reg....

We dont make songs about our struggles as white people but there are plenty about being Irish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"City Boy Joy

Somethings get through to some people some of the time.

Respect for keeping it civil and thought provoking x "

Thank you

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"City Boy Joy

Somethings get through to some people some of the time.

Respect for keeping it civil and thought provoking x

Thank you"

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer

Just to give a bit of context on this.

Its about feeling oppressed and defined by something about yourself.

For instance when I used ti visit my sister at Uni in Belfast in the 90's it wasnt being white that had me on edge it was being Irish.

It wasnt being white that caused Army patrols to stop our car and put Automatic rifles to the windows it was the Rep Of Ireland car reg....

We dont make songs about our struggles as white people but there are plenty about being Irish"

Great post

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


"Furthermore, for him (Dave) to pay respect to those serving time inside - during his speech - I thought just about said it all...

Idiot

Loads of innocent people behind bars mate, I.e his brother which is why he mentioned it. And to call Dave an idiot is just name calling as he is extremely smart But his brother isnt innocent, he stabbed someone to death didnt he !!

2 brothers in prison. "

1 for 4yrs for conspiracy to defraud

1 for life (min 18yrs) for gang murder

Where's the innocence in that ..I'm confused

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

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Why so angry, buddy?, does listening to Dave not relax you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His brother didn’t commit Murder he was 1 of 30 after a college class and was prosecuted under joint enterprise. What I mean by that is if they were to overturn the joint enterprise law he’d be released as he didn’t kill anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

Why so angry, buddy?, does listening to Dave not relax you."

He’s probably frustrated it’s gets hard trying to explain things to people who generally don’t really want to listen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"awwwwwwww don't be sorry. You don't have that power.

BUT.......

I asked a legitimate question and you missed the opportunity to be decent and big him up. I did want to know.

Imagine not knowing how to utilise google. If you don’t know, it’s not on me to tell you. Maybe think if you’ve nothing of any real note to bring to a discussion it might be beneficial to keep ones opinion to oneself

Why so angry, buddy?, does listening to Dave not relax you.

He’s probably frustrated it’s gets hard trying to explain things to people who generally don’t really want to listen"

He could call himself Alan and write a song about it.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

He was better before he split up with Chaz

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually i have become a huge fan of dave in the last few months... the album is fantastic..

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"I thought his performance was amazing and really thought provoking. I also thought it was a lovely touch to include a tribute to the 2 victims of the London terror attacks "

What did you think about his tribute to his friends inside?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "

........wait...what? Sorry but you’ve lost the plot there my love. The Einsatzgruppen and Totenkopf SS weren’t racist towards the Jews....because they’re white? You’re 100% entitled to your opinion on the matter, but this is part of the reason anti semitism were the most recorded hate incidents and crimes in 2019.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never heard of the guy and didn’t watch the brits. But he’s provoked a lot of debate here so it’s piqued my interest enough to have a listen. Love finding new artists

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"His brother didn’t commit Murder he was 1 of 30 after a college class and was prosecuted under joint enterprise. What I mean by that is if they were to overturn the joint enterprise law he’d be released as he didn’t kill anyone "

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/20/sofyen-belamouadden-three-jailed-murder

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird "

Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never heard of the guy and didn’t watch the brits. But he’s provoked a lot of debate here so it’s piqued my interest enough to have a listen. Love finding new artists "

Id never heard of him but was very impressed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird

Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress? "

Blatent empire propaganda

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird

Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress?

Blatent empire propaganda "

Also when John Prescott had a drink thrown over him.....

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By *icassolifelikeMan
over a year ago

Luton


"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird

Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress? "

Had a right arm like Popeye after watching her! Love a Ginge!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird

Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress?

Had a right arm like Popeye after watching her! Love a Ginge! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Red heads yes

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"We watched the Brits last night & for the 1st time I actually felt old. I used to love watching but think I’m past it now. Even our teenagers didn’t know half the winners.

Bring back the Scissor Sisters & the big yellow bird

Do you remember Geri Hellawell in that Union Jack dress?

Had a right arm like Popeye after watching her! Love a Ginge! "

TMI lol

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By *irenGuy70Man
over a year ago

Cirencester

Yeah, I saw it. He's no Chuck D that's for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer "

What....Ethnic and Racial groups have persecuted each other since before the first recorded war in 2700bc, few examples

Ireland

Nanjing

Barbary slave trade

Atlantic slave trade

Numerous crusades and Jihads in the middle east

The Mongols

The Huns

Slave trade in Libya

Ceasars Genocide in Gaul

Japanese treatment of POW's in the Pacific

The Ostfront

Treatment of white farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa

The recent grooming gang scandal

Armenia

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop.

100% this

I think his performance last night was quite possibly the worst in Brits history

Complete and utter talentless nonsense - why we choose to celebrate such garbage utterly baffles me...

Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed. Dave is talking from an oppressive POV which the black community feels they are in particular circumstances. And to say talentless is such a lie. If you watched it without judgement you’d of enjoyed it and got the message

"Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed" really?? Where do you get your facts from to back up that statement? Sections of white society have been oppressed, Jews, gypsies, Irish to name just three. Try researching before making sweeping statements. There is oppression in all colours, religions and cultures not just black ones.

All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups. I’d love to continue in the inbox as I I don’t want to clutter up the forum any longer

What....Ethnic and Racial groups have persecuted each other since before the first recorded war in 2700bc, few examples

Ireland

Nanjing

Barbary slave trade

Atlantic slave trade

Numerous crusades and Jihads in the middle east

The Mongols

The Huns

Slave trade in Libya

Ceasars Genocide in Gaul

Japanese treatment of POW's in the Pacific

The Ostfront

Treatment of white farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa

The recent grooming gang scandal

Armenia

"

All the fault of white Englishman at the end of the day.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Did you mention the Serbs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?"

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest. "

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?"

Actually was going to mention the Balkans originally but forgot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative. "

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant. "

Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talking of oppression, what about the Cornish!

Homes all bought from under us by Emmett's

Pasty stolen by Gregg's .

Devonians trying to claim cream tea as theirs.

Jam first then cream..ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.

Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh "

Nobody said Dave said anything like that. Read the thread before you start jumping down people’s throats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.

Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh "

'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'

'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Talking of oppression, what about the Cornish!

Homes all bought from under us by Emmett's

Pasty stolen by Gregg's .

Devonians trying to claim cream tea as theirs.

Jam first then cream..ffs

"

Don't forget the Barbary pirates. You deserve reparations for the slavery. It's important to hold these memories of violence for as long as possible. maybe do a sea shanty about it on the mean streets of Padstow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yet if a white guy did the same and called it white there would be uproar.

Personally i think hes crap but im not into grime/hiphop."

He isn’t that good really. Old school hip hop is miles better.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant. "

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Watched the show for the first and last time.

Zero talent.com

The new Bond theme was shocking, they must have zero budget.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.

Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh

'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'

'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'"

Ah, so it was similar to WW2? The Germans were trying to suppress those who opposed them ? Or the Anglo Scottish wars, the English were trying to oppress the Scottish? Etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness"

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically "

...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically "

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

"

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now"

Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech?

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now"

Ok what part of his speech was racist?

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I've only heard of him because my boys are fans.

I saw him on the Brits, listened to his speech and while I don't agree with a lot if his lyrics he did say something really important which is a great message to his young fans. And that was 'ordinary people can still be whatever they want to be in this difficult world'. Or something like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now

Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech?"

Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.

Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh

'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'

'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'

Ah, so it was similar to WW2? The Germans were trying to suppress those who opposed them ? Or the Anglo Scottish wars, the English were trying to oppress the Scottish? Etc etc "

The Nazi regime disliked anyone that wasn't ubermensch, thats why they did the things they did in the East as they thought Slavs were essentially non people. Japenese did something very similar to the Chinese. Every race, creed or ethnicity has done it in the past

The process of de-humanising groups of people be they Black, Pink, Blue, Gay, Straight whatever is more the root cause and makes it a hell of alot easier for these atrocities to happen in the first place. One of the reasons I dont like the term Gammon,Remainer,libtard or whatever.

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now

Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech?

Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that"

Boris Johnson is a racist though

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now

Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech?

Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that

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Ridiculous in what way?

Boris has quite a history of saying racist things. If he is not racist, then he needs to be more careful of his language.

People may misunderstand him...

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over a year ago


"Utter dial a cliche rubbish.

Where's that bandwagon gotta jump on it

I don't think a middle aged couple from Cornwall are his target audience "

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No too true ,I much prefer Kendrick or Proof,??

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

He's ridiculous. He's only popular because he's current. Let him earn his sheckles and pennies and then fuck off. He won't be in the business long. Give him another 5yrs then bye bye Dave.

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over a year ago


"Absolute legend. Also “Black” isn’t even the most powerful track on his album. It’s incredible. He’s only 21. Madness

He’s a racist but your not allowed to say that, plus wants more rights for people in jail for some reason, clown basically

Can you quote me a racist line in his song?

His speach was enough, not listened to his songs and don’t intend to now

Ok can you quote me a racist line from the speech?

Calling Boris Jonson a racist is ridiculous, implying the queen is a racist even more so, got him lots of publicity tho as never heard of him before that"

I mean.... Boris not racist?

Leaving that aside you have now.said what he said is ridiculous... can you quote the part that made you call him racist... did he compare weirdly dress white people to a phonebox or maybe called them cracker red necks?

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over a year ago


"Did you mention the Serbs?

This is probably more what he’s on about ^

He said it can’t be racist because it’s white on white, not just one group subjugating a different colour group, completely disregarding the fact that there are in fact distinct genetically diverse groups within ‘white people’. It was offensive on so many levels, not least of which is the implication that all ‘white’ people are the same

But the Yugoslav Wars, the Final Solution, the Liberian Civil Wars, Rwandan Genocides, the Celtic Genocides....all examples of racial violence perpetrated by people of the same colour. But not racist at all according to his logic. Pretty disheartened by that level of ignorance to be honest.

But not surprising, because that's the narrative.

I wouldn’t say the narrative is ‘you can’t have racism between the same skin colour’. That’s very much the minority view in my experience, spouted by the truly pig ignorant.

Who said you can’t have racism between people of the same skin colour? I don’t remember Dave mentioning it last night tbh

'Again whites couldn’t have as they haven’t been oppressed'

'All the groups you named were all oppressed by other whites that’s why it can’t be racist. Your speaking of prejudice between different groups.'

Ah, so it was similar to WW2? The Germans were trying to suppress those who opposed them ? Or the Anglo Scottish wars, the English were trying to oppress the Scottish? Etc etc

The Nazi regime disliked anyone that wasn't ubermensch, thats why they did the things they did in the East as they thought Slavs were essentially non people. Japenese did something very similar to the Chinese. Every race, creed or ethnicity has done it in the past

The process of de-humanising groups of people be they Black, Pink, Blue, Gay, Straight whatever is more the root cause and makes it a hell of alot easier for these atrocities to happen in the first place. One of the reasons I dont like the term Gammon,Remainer,libtard or whatever."

I agree with all of what you’ve said, but I think his implication was that because these groups are all white, then it can’t be racism. I’m saying there are genetic differences between ethnic groups within the classifications of ‘white’, ‘black’ ‘brown’ etc. Look at the differences in the Quechua and the Aymara in Peru as a small geographical example of genetic diversity. Separate races, same colour skin.

He’s over simplifying his definition of ‘race’ to suit his agenda and support his argument, and thereby proving himself a racist because he’s saying ‘all white people are the same’. That’s what I take issue with.

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