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By *ensualtouch15 OP   Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Does it explicitly exist or always subjective?

Seen a profile declaring an observation that there are some ugly men on fab

So for equality are there women and men that could be universally called ugly or is the word a greater reflection of the person using it in anger than the person they are trying to describe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Somebody that I wide describe as ugly might be beautiful to someone else. We all have tastes that differ. The world would be a boring place if everyone was attracted to the same kind of person or looks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looksism is a real and constant issue for those with suboptimal characteristics (both physical and mental)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah I don’t think anyone can be universally ugly. Parents always think their kids are cute, even if no one else does

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I firmly believe that there is always someone that is beautiful to someone else x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ugly face, but there’s definitely some ugly souls.

Attraction is subjective.

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By *issminxymooWoman
over a year ago

Button Moon

For me ugly is more a personality trait of someone rather than the way they look, someone can be classically attractive to look out but if they are fundamentally a dickhead that makes them ugly. Applies to both sexes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For me ugly is more a personality trait of someone rather than the way they look, someone can be classically attractive to look out but if they are fundamentally a dickhead that makes them ugly. Applies to both sexes"

I'm ugly but I dont care I think I'm a nice enough person lol

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By *weet and SpiceCouple
over a year ago

Around the Midlands

Nah no such thing as ugly "as beauty is in the eye of the be-holder" x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I go with Roald Dahl's take on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ugly is never an appearance thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm fugly xx

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ugly face, but there’s definitely some ugly souls.

Attraction is subjective. "

This

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

I've been called ugly before as a kid, teenager and an adult, but then again I've been called gorgeous and handsome and have dated some stunning women too so I can't be that bad. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having said that I'd rather look like me and be a nice person that be a hot sexy guy but not liked at all.

I may get laid more but no repete sex as I'd not be liked.

Yer I'm good being me

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"For me ugly is more a personality trait of someone rather than the way they look, someone can be classically attractive to look out but if they are fundamentally a dickhead that makes them ugly. Applies to both sexes"

I agree with Minxy

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

I have inner beauty.

Its just a shame the outer is a bit ropey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does it explicitly exist or always subjective?

Seen a profile declaring an observation that there are some ugly men on fab

So for equality are there women and men that could be universally called ugly or is the word a greater reflection of the person using it in anger than the person they are trying to describe?

"

They may have meant ugly as in not a nice person. Not necessarily their looks but if they do means looks then they are very childish & cruel for saying it.

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By *ensualtouch15 OP   Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ugly face, but there’s definitely some ugly souls.

Attraction is subjective.

This "

I'd agree

What would we think of the soul of a person ( Man , woman) who explicitly declares this on their profile status??,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah I don’t think anyone can be universally ugly. Parents always think their kids are cute, even if no one else does"

Really...one of my kids was so ugly we had to tie steaks round her neck to get the dog to play with her

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By *ooskiMan
over a year ago

south coast

Im just me........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been called it on here.

Ugly is a personality trait all to common on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been called it on here.

Ugly is a personality trait all to common on here"

This. I heard a saying once that stuck with me: "Beauty is only skin deep. Ugly goes right to the bone." #Truth

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I go with Roald Dahl's take on it."

What was that ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Physically, I think it's overwhelmingly subjective.

Personality much less so.

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"This. I heard a saying once that stuck with me: "Beauty is only skin deep. Ugly goes right to the bone." #Truth"

So true x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Nah I don’t think anyone can be universally ugly. Parents always think their kids are cute, even if no one else does

Really...one of my kids was so ugly we had to tie steaks round her neck to get the dog to play with her"

Is that you Lee ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For me ugly is more a personality trait of someone rather than the way they look, someone can be classically attractive to look out but if they are fundamentally a dickhead that makes them ugly. Applies to both sexes"

That’s definitely how I see it ! Well said

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By *rctopusMan
over a year ago

Borehamwood

One woman's Patrick Swayze is another's Don Swayze.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ugly face, but there’s definitely some ugly souls.

Attraction is subjective. "

As someone with an ugly face, I have to disagree.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Yes. There is such a thing as 'ugly' to all.

There are those lovely people who will choose an ugly dog or love an ugly man etc.... cos they choose characteristics above aesthetics. BUT.....

Scientifically it is proven that people find symmetry attractive. So if your face is asymmetrical you will not be as attractive to others as a balanced face.

Some unfortunates through birth or accident are unpleasant to look at.

Personally I find ugly to be an ugly word.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ugly face, but there’s definitely some ugly souls.

Attraction is subjective.

As someone with an ugly face, I have to disagree."

Well it becomes more curious because I have found some 'uglies' to be highly attractive ..... it's something in their attitude and magnetism ......

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ugly face, but there’s definitely some ugly souls.

Attraction is subjective.

As someone with an ugly face, I have to disagree.

Well it becomes more curious because I have found some 'uglies' to be highly attractive ..... it's something in their attitude and magnetism ...... "

Definitely

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"For me ugly is more a personality trait of someone rather than the way they look, someone can be classically attractive to look out but if they are fundamentally a dickhead that makes them ugly. Applies to both sexes

That’s definitely how I see it ! Well said "

Nope. It makes them a good looking dickhead

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I'm a fucking minger but I suck good dick so I get laid

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By *inky SpiceWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Does it explicitly exist or always subjective?"

Yes it exists, if course it does. It doesn't mean an ugly person can't be attractive though.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I'm a fucking minger but I suck good dick so I get laid "

And you're such a smooth talker. Xx

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston

I think there are people who are more or less aesthetically pleasing to the masses but I agree that ugly comes from within.

I do wonder though if parents can see if their child is not attractive or does something happen hormonal when you give birth that makes you think your child is gorgeous.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I'm a fucking minger but I suck good dick so I get laid

And you're such a smooth talker. Xx"

I know right, I charm the boxers off men with my 'fancy a fuck' messages

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough


"I'm a fucking minger but I suck good dick so I get laid

And you're such a smooth talker. Xx

I know right, I charm the boxers off men with my 'fancy a fuck' messages "

Innit.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I think there are people who are more or less aesthetically pleasing to the masses but I agree that ugly comes from within.

I do wonder though if parents can see if their child is not attractive or does something happen hormonal when you give birth that makes you think your child is gorgeous."

Yeppers....... it's built in for protection.

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"I think there are people who are more or less aesthetically pleasing to the masses but I agree that ugly comes from within.

I do wonder though if parents can see if their child is not attractive or does something happen hormonal when you give birth that makes you think your child is gorgeous."

Love is blind, it's the instinct to protect and nurture young. Just as baby animals imprint with mother the mother's do too. Otherwise they would walk off and leave them defenceless.

Ever noticed when you fall in love with someone they become attractive to you more than when you first met them?

Then when you break you you see them as ugly

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"I think there are people who are more or less aesthetically pleasing to the masses but I agree that ugly comes from within.

I do wonder though if parents can see if their child is not attractive or does something happen hormonal when you give birth that makes you think your child is gorgeous.

Love is blind, it's the instinct to protect and nurture young. Just as baby animals imprint with mother the mother's do too. Otherwise they would walk off and leave them defenceless.

Ever noticed when you fall in love with someone they become attractive to you more than when you first met them?

Then when you break you you see them as ugly"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"I think there are people who are more or less aesthetically pleasing to the masses but I agree that ugly comes from within.

I do wonder though if parents can see if their child is not attractive or does something happen hormonal when you give birth that makes you think your child is gorgeous.

Love is blind, it's the instinct to protect and nurture young. Just as baby animals imprint with mother the mother's do too. Otherwise they would walk off and leave them defenceless.

Ever noticed when you fall in love with someone they become attractive to you more than when you first met them?

Then when you break you you see them as ugly

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating."

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Shows lack of finesse

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By *r laidbackMan
over a year ago

London & New Brighton


"For me ugly is more a personality trait of someone rather than the way they look, someone can be classically attractive to look out but if they are fundamentally a dickhead that makes them ugly. Applies to both sexes"

Exactly!!! ive been out with some really stunning looking women but their so about themselves and what they can get based on their looks, that you start to see passed the outside and see the ugly inside, does not mean they cant change but I'm not hanging around for the chance they might. Ugly is about there ways and how people act towards others.

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal."

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is someone for everyone on here that's a fact as a larger guy I know that I'm not going to meet athletic ladies but to call someone ugly is off limits I think especially in the current climate

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By *oby le roneMan
over a year ago

Treorchy


"Having said that I'd rather look like me and be a nice person that be a hot sexy guy but not liked at all.

I may get laid more but no repete sex as I'd not be liked.

Yer I'm good being me "

Know what you mean here mate, I’ve never been the guy girls lusted after or wanted, But I’m happy being the nice guy they can always rely on. Beauty is skin deep, but ugliness goes to the bone.

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive."

Attraction to a person is an subconscious decision for the most part.

In studies done on women tests taken at different stages of their cycle have show attractiveness differs based on where they are in their cycle.

The same women complete the same tests with differing results depending on where they are in their cycle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beauty is in the eye of Noddy Holder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a word I would normally only use to describe someone in relation to their personality....or in a jokey sense "having an ugly day today?"

With regards to looks I'd simply say there are people that are extremely attractive and those I don't think are particularly attractive.

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea


"It's a word I would normally only use to describe someone in relation to their personality....or in a jokey sense "having an ugly day today?"

With regards to looks I'd simply say there are people that are extremely attractive and those I don't think are particularly attractive."

same

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive.

Attraction to a person is an subconscious decision for the most part.

In studies done on women tests taken at different stages of their cycle have show attractiveness differs based on where they are in their cycle.

The same women complete the same tests with differing results depending on where they are in their cycle"

Even with their own children?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My favourite saying is “just because the wrapper is pretty doesn’t mean the chocolate is sweet”.

Beauty comes from within.

A kind heart and a great personality supersedes looks. Unfortunately in today’s fast paced technology age we seldom get to discover the treasures hidden behind the boobs or dick pics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think by personal observation . You can have ugly people(to my eye) with beautiful souls and beautiful people with ugly personalities. Pretty, privalaged people don't have to work on their social skills as much to be liked or fit in where ugly not so well off people do. The people i find to have both these qualities are the ones that were ugly children , have struggled in their own life,bullied for some reason who mature and end up beautiful inside and out.

Inner beauty always beats skin deep.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think by personal observation . You can have ugly people(to my eye) with beautiful souls and beautiful people with ugly personalities. Pretty, privalaged people don't have to work on their social skills as much to be liked or fit in where ugly not so well off people do. The people i find to have both these qualities are the ones that were ugly children , have struggled in their own life,bullied for some reason who mature and end up beautiful inside and out.

Inner beauty always beats skin deep. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My favourite saying is “just because the wrapper is pretty doesn’t mean the chocolate is sweet”.

Beauty comes from within.

A kind heart and a great personality supersedes looks. Unfortunately in today’s fast paced technology age we seldom get to discover the treasures hidden behind the boobs or dick pics.

"

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive.

Attraction to a person is an subconscious decision for the most part.

In studies done on women tests taken at different stages of their cycle have show attractiveness differs based on where they are in their cycle.

The same women complete the same tests with differing results depending on where they are in their cycle

Even with their own children?"

No talking about sexual attraction

What your considering isn't up for discussion

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"My favourite saying is “just because the wrapper is pretty doesn’t mean the chocolate is sweet”.

Beauty comes from within.

A kind heart and a great personality supersedes looks. Unfortunately in today’s fast paced technology age we seldom get to discover the treasures hidden behind the boobs or dick pics.

"

That's great, but does necessitate getting to know that inner person. At a general human level that's great. However in Swing land, it's unrealistic to think it's wrong to judge people at a more physical level.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No matter how beautiful someone is inside if I’m not physically attracted to them it’s not gonna happen.

But the same could be said about beautiful on the outside and ugly on the inside.

So I go for both. After all it’s meant to be fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personality can be very ugly. Physically I think most people are beautiful, in one light or another.

Anyone using ugly is probably someone I'd consider ugly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does it explicitly exist or always subjective?

Seen a profile declaring an observation that there are some ugly men on fab

So for equality are there women and men that could be universally called ugly or is the word a greater reflection of the person using it in anger than the person they are trying to describe?

"

its a thought best lost in the mind of the person who perceives it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My favourite saying is “just because the wrapper is pretty doesn’t mean the chocolate is sweet”.

Beauty comes from within.

A kind heart and a great personality supersedes looks. Unfortunately in today’s fast paced technology age we seldom get to discover the treasures hidden behind the boobs or dick pics.

That's great, but does necessitate getting to know that inner person. At a general human level that's great. However in Swing land, it's unrealistic to think it's wrong to judge people at a more physical level."

I wasn’t implying it was right or wrong to judge people on a physical level. Its natural instinct and obviously in swing world physical attraction is important. We’re not taking anyone home to meet the parents lol.

My point was that initial attraction can either be enhanced or diminish when you get to know someone

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

I'm not ugly, I'm aesthetically challenged

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive.

Attraction to a person is an subconscious decision for the most part.

In studies done on women tests taken at different stages of their cycle have show attractiveness differs based on where they are in their cycle.

The same women complete the same tests with differing results depending on where they are in their cycle

Even with their own children?"

That's a totally different thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank god for my sexy face and beautiful mind then

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive.

Attraction to a person is an subconscious decision for the most part.

In studies done on women tests taken at different stages of their cycle have show attractiveness differs based on where they are in their cycle.

The same women complete the same tests with differing results depending on where they are in their cycle

Even with their own children?

No talking about sexual attraction

What your considering isn't up for discussion

"

Well you changed the direction of the discussion not me. We were discussing whether parents always think their children are attractive. Even after the post birth hormones have gone. I never mentioned sexually at all!

You changed it to love and then to being sexual. Neither of which were anything to do with my question so please don't make me out to be innapropriate!

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"

But what about when your 'baby' is 40. Is it still there?

I find it fascinating.

Parental / child bond is the hardest one to break. For most even if your child was the most prolific serial killer they'd love them and see them as angels. That's why you view your children in higher regard to others. Nature making sure you protect your offspring. Some people though weren't made to be parents or they never had a bond with their child. Sadly that's also natures way abandon offspring that aren't ideal.

Agreed, but I'm not talking love, I mean thinking someone is attractive.

Attraction to a person is an subconscious decision for the most part.

In studies done on women tests taken at different stages of their cycle have show attractiveness differs based on where they are in their cycle.

The same women complete the same tests with differing results depending on where they are in their cycle

Even with their own children?

No talking about sexual attraction

What your considering isn't up for discussion

Well you changed the direction of the discussion not me. We were discussing whether parents always think their children are attractive. Even after the post birth hormones have gone. I never mentioned sexually at all!

You changed it to love and then to being sexual. Neither of which were anything to do with my question so please don't make me out to be innapropriate!"

Thinking someone is attractive and attraction are two different things

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By *urlyCatzWoman
over a year ago

Blackpool


"I'm a fucking minger but I suck good dick so I get laid "

Sorry to intrude but I proper giggled at this

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I'm a fucking minger but I suck good dick so I get laid

Sorry to intrude but I proper giggled at this "

You're not intruding!

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

There’s always someone who will find you attractive.

You just got to find them.

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