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"The media are very good at instigating ill feelings/outrage & often hate towards 1 person or group of people. It can be even worse when the people targeted already have some kind of fame. I'd say they are a big factor in things " Look at the McCanns It would have been very different if they’d lived on a council estate and on the dole | |||
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"Guys just off the point/but ms flack as topic. Could someone tell me about this asault charge being brought and court case. Not read any thing just news soundbites. Ms flack assaulted her bfriend the boyfriend hasnt pressed charges and the police did forensics in thier her flat. So who is wanting the charge what ever it was to go to court.? " CPS wanted her charged even though her bf dropped all charges | |||
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"The media are very good at instigating ill feelings/outrage & often hate towards 1 person or group of people. It can be even worse when the people targeted already have some kind of fame. I'd say they are a big factor in things Look at the McCanns It would have been very different if they’d lived on a council estate and on the dole " Indeed it would, they would have been in prison by now. That's a great example of 'its not what you know but who you know' That's another topic altogether | |||
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"Guys just off the point/but ms flack as topic. Could someone tell me about this asault charge being brought and court case. Not read any thing just news soundbites. Ms flack assaulted her bfriend the boyfriend hasnt pressed charges and the police did forensics in thier her flat. So who is wanting the charge what ever it was to go to court.? " It is a domestic abuse case. In these cases, if it is deemed serious enough, then the perpetrator is prosecuted even if the victim refuses to press charges. I believe that was the case in this situation. | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind?" Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England | |||
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"People are to blame. The media do an excellent job at stirring it all up, but it is ultimately people as a whole that buy in to it and join in on it. People empower the media to do it, the anti-social media lifestyle, mob mentality and just jumping on the hate band wagon are the true issues. Regardless of what the media end up reporting on, there will always be people who will be venomous, vile, hateful, inconsiderate, disrespectful, and toxic. " See it here everyday | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England " You literally just agreed with that post, then went on in the next sentence to do exactly what it criticises ![]() | |||
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"People are to blame. The media do an excellent job at stirring it all up, but it is ultimately people as a whole that buy in to it and join in on it. People empower the media to do it, the anti-social media lifestyle, mob mentality and just jumping on the hate band wagon are the true issues. Regardless of what the media end up reporting on, there will always be people who will be venomous, vile, hateful, inconsiderate, disrespectful, and toxic. " ![]() | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England You literally just agreed with that post, then went on in the next sentence to do exactly what it criticises ![]() There’s always one who feels the need to come off topic to pick fault in something It’s often you Funny we are talking trolls ![]() | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind?" So if hypocrisy is going on you can't comment about that ? | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England You literally just agreed with that post, then went on in the next sentence to do exactly what it criticises ![]() He didn't he gave his thoughts of what he thinks | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England You literally just agreed with that post, then went on in the next sentence to do exactly what it criticises ![]() ![]() I meant it as a lighthearted comment, apologies if it didn't come across that way, but I'm no troll. | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England You literally just agreed with that post, then went on in the next sentence to do exactly what it criticises ![]() Thank you ![]() | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England You literally just agreed with that post, then went on in the next sentence to do exactly what it criticises ![]() ![]() I don't think it was a lighthearted comment even with the emoji. Having said that, can people please stop attacking others when they post...calling people trolls because they answer you is not deserved | |||
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"The media needs tighter guidelines as to how they can report. She's been in the papers daily for God knows how long. " This ![]() | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind?" i said the same thing on twitter to some of the people who were mourning the loss.... maybe in attacking others they don't see they were doing the same thing because they considered her a "friend"...... and you'd never do that to a mate! the only way you will get the press to stop it to to stop buying/retweeting their stuff.... so stop buying the sun for example.... daily mail online..... dont look!!!! | |||
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"The media needs tighter guidelines as to how they can report. She's been in the papers daily for God knows how long. " Unfortunately I dont belie6any amount of regulation will stop this happening? As long as the public desires to be influenced, believes unsubstantiated stories and purchases such items be it by paper or social media, this will never stop. Sad indictment of our values. The media cant exist unless we allow it to? | |||
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" Sad indictment of our values. The media cant exist unless we allow it to? " ![]() | |||
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" Sad indictment of our values. The media cant exist unless we allow it to? ![]() I've never even been tempted to look at twitter because of the record it has around trolling! | |||
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" Sad indictment of our values. The media cant exist unless we allow it to? ![]() I don't blame you. I joined a few weeks back, I lasted a couple of weeks after thinking why do people enjoy all this abuse to each other.I then deleted it. | |||
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"Guys just off the point/but ms flack as topic. Could someone tell me about this asault charge being brought and court case. Not read any thing just news soundbites. Ms flack assaulted her bfriend the boyfriend hasnt pressed charges and the police did forensics in thier her flat. So who is wanting the charge what ever it was to go to court.? It is a domestic abuse case. In these cases, if it is deemed serious enough, then the perpetrator is prosecuted even if the victim refuses to press charges. I believe that was the case in this situation. " Thanks i did wonder if it was being classed as Dlmestic Assault. Makes senses now | |||
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" Sad indictment of our values. The media cant exist unless we allow it to? ![]() The media, especially written journalism, encourage the hateful behaviour but yes there is no doubt that people (not all) are just hateful in that way with or without the media. The Media thrives on this stuff, it's very much a case of supply and demand, and give the people what they want. They don't deserve the full brunt, but they are every bit a part of it as much as everyone of those people who make such comments. | |||
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"With the tragic suicide of Miss Flack in mind Is it about time the people responsible for making this woman feel like death was the best option We are so quick to pick on vulnerable people Then when something like this happens The media will be all “ tragic loss “ But they are to blame Manslaughter/ murder ? " , How do we know they are to blame, this young lady was obviously in a bad place, whether the media tipped her over the edge, I guess we'll never know, unless she confided that to anyone... | |||
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"If people weren't so interested in getting their noses into other people's shit, they would have no reason to write that kind of crap, either" This ![]() | |||
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"Guys just off the point/but ms flack as topic. Could someone tell me about this asault charge being brought and court case. Not read any thing just news soundbites. Ms flack assaulted her bfriend the boyfriend hasnt pressed charges and the police did forensics in thier her flat. So who is wanting the charge what ever it was to go to court.? CPS wanted her charged even though her bf dropped all charges " A criminal charge is technically a crime committed against the Queen (hence the R vs preceding the defendants name) as opposed to a civil crime (committed against an individual). Hence if the CPS decide that there is enough evidence to proceed then they are duty bound to even if the alleged victim wants to drop the charges. Of course the victim could then choose to reiterate their desire not to proceed to the judge/jury in the hope of the case being dismissed or to grant leniency to the defendant. | |||
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"I have no doubt that the media and social media can be brutal but she did have something going on in her life that is a possible factor. " Exactly. Lots going on. Also, her behaviour points to bpd, especially her relationships. | |||
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" Sad indictment of our values. The media cant exist unless we allow it to? ![]() With any social media, Twitter has good and bad aspects. I’ve seen people reach out for help when they’ve lost their job and had positive results for example. There are plenty of decent people on there. Sadly, there are nasty, vindictive people on there too and I’ve reported some and they’ve had their accounts closed down. Someone retweeted a celebrity who posted hate messages they’d received, all saying they hoped this person would die. They were all from normal accounts ![]() ![]() | |||
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"With the tragic suicide of Miss Flack in mind Is it about time the people responsible for making this woman feel like death was the best option We are so quick to pick on vulnerable people Then when something like this happens The media will be all “ tragic loss “ But they are to blame Manslaughter/ murder ? , How do we know they are to blame, this young lady was obviously in a bad place, whether the media tipped her over the edge, I guess we'll never know, unless she confided that to anyone..." Solely to blame? No. We will never know. To think they didn't play a part in it would be foolish though. Regardless what you did. To have the knowledge of having done it (potential regret) then on top of that story after story posted about you, the past dragged up, hateful comments made to the extreme on a national scale (some cases international) it is going to play a huge role in decisions you make. She may have had other mental health issues going on but that kind of negative attention on such a scale would push anyone to extremes. | |||
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"I think she had mental health issues pre this? The media will say people want to read it so they supply it. If they didn’t supply it then people couldn’t read it. It seems quite simple to me, you can have an opinion, you can comment or write things, you can have a debate, all without making it so destructive and venomous. We seem to be losing the ability to express ourselves without hatred and bitterness. I don’t read papers, I don’t read anything gossipy. I watch the news. I’m not feeding it and I’m not part of it. I had no idea what was going on in this persons life, I just think it’s incredibly sad when a person feels this is the only way to deal with it. I’m sure there are a lot of media platforms that contributed to the difficulties she was experiencing though. " Brilliantly put | |||
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"With the tragic suicide of Miss Flack in mind Is it about time the people responsible for making this woman feel like death was the best option We are so quick to pick on vulnerable people Then when something like this happens The media will be all “ tragic loss “ But they are to blame Manslaughter/ murder ? , How do we know they are to blame, this young lady was obviously in a bad place, whether the media tipped her over the edge, I guess we'll never know, unless she confided that to anyone... Solely to blame? No. We will never know. To think they didn't play a part in it would be foolish though. Regardless what you did. To have the knowledge of having done it (potential regret) then on top of that story after story posted about you, the past dragged up, hateful comments made to the extreme on a national scale (some cases international) it is going to play a huge role in decisions you make. She may have had other mental health issues going on but that kind of negative attention on such a scale would push anyone to extremes. " A big factor, no doubt, was that she couldn't see her boyfriend, I wonder if he were there, supporting her,this may not have happened. We will never know... | |||
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""Anyone who has ever compared one woman against another on Twitter, knocked someone because of their appearance, invaded someone’s privacy, who’ve made mean, unnecessary comments on an online forum need to look at themselves.” This is taken from a tribute from the new Love Island host (Can't remember her name). Says it all. " Great words And very true Done people on here would benefit from this way of thinking too Social media used the right way can be excellent Used badly It can kill | |||
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"With the tragic suicide of Miss Flack in mind Is it about time the people responsible for making this woman feel like death was the best option We are so quick to pick on vulnerable people Then when something like this happens The media will be all “ tragic loss “ But they are to blame Manslaughter/ murder ? " No. They are not. | |||
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""Anyone who has ever compared one woman against another on Twitter, knocked someone because of their appearance, invaded someone’s privacy, who’ve made mean, unnecessary comments on an online forum need to look at themselves.” This is taken from a tribute from the new Love Island host (Can't remember her name). Says it all. " Laura Whitmore. | |||
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"Also literally everyone who has criticised Harry and Meghan in recent months based on nothing more than what you've read in the tabloids, guess what - you too are part of the problem. In a world where we can be anything, maybe we should try being more kind? Absolutely Only issue with Harry is, it feels like she’s manipulating him I dont think he would really want to leave England " Amazing how people assume to know the state and roles of other people's marriage. I don't do that with my own kids and I know them! Add to that, really, what business is it of ours? | |||
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"The media probably paid some part, but I think her personal life was more of a contributory factor in her suicide. You want to see hypocrisy at it's finest? Thousands of messages under Daily Mail comments about bullying, online trolling, social media etc and the awfulness of it all. Last time I looked over 10,000 on one article alone about how much ghetto, straight out of Compton Rachel Me-again has pussy whipped Ging and bringing down the royal family. Such hate and loathing is as abnormal to me as the mass weeping and wailing following Diana's death." The press play a part but its the people that comment that's the issue. We see it on here all the time. "it's only the internet, it's not real" "I didn't cause offence, you took it" People need to rember there are real people at the end of these comments. | |||
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"With the tragic suicide of Miss Flack in mind Is it about time the people responsible for making this woman feel like death was the best option We are so quick to pick on vulnerable people Then when something like this happens The media will be all “ tragic loss “ But they are to blame Manslaughter/ murder ? " I think everyone needs to take a long, hard look at themselves and consider what they type before they type it. From journalists to contributors to Facebook and twitter. They won't though because everyone thinks it's somebody else's fault. I don't have any idea why she did what she did what she did. I doubt there's any single factor though | |||
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"The media probably paid some part, but I think her personal life was more of a contributory factor in her suicide. You want to see hypocrisy at it's finest? Thousands of messages under Daily Mail comments about bullying, online trolling, social media etc and the awfulness of it all. Last time I looked over 10,000 on one article alone about how much ghetto, straight out of Compton Rachel Me-again has pussy whipped Ging and bringing down the royal family. Such hate and loathing is as abnormal to me as the mass weeping and wailing following Diana's death." ![]() | |||
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"With the tragic suicide of Miss Flack in mind Is it about time the people responsible for making this woman feel like death was the best option We are so quick to pick on vulnerable people Then when something like this happens The media will be all “ tragic loss “ But they are to blame Manslaughter/ murder ? I think everyone needs to take a long, hard look at themselves and consider what they type before they type it. From journalists to contributors to Facebook and twitter. They won't though because everyone thinks it's somebody else's fault. I don't have any idea why she did what she did what she did. I doubt there's any single factor though " I doubt it too... | |||
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"The media probably paid some part, but I think her personal life was more of a contributory factor in her suicide. You want to see hypocrisy at it's finest? Thousands of messages under Daily Mail comments about bullying, online trolling, social media etc and the awfulness of it all. Last time I looked over 10,000 on one article alone about how much ghetto, straight out of Compton Rachel Me-again has pussy whipped Ging and bringing down the royal family. Such hate and loathing is as abnormal to me as the mass weeping and wailing following Diana's death. The press play a part but its the people that comment that's the issue. We see it on here all the time. "it's only the internet, it's not real" "I didn't cause offence, you took it" People need to rember there are real people at the end of these comments. " Yep. ![]() | |||
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"What would people be saying if CF was an ugly bloke who was in court soon for battering his wife but took suicide as a way out (or from guilt)?" but she wasn’t so what’s you’re point? Or are you turning this into men v women argument ![]() | |||
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"Social media is full of toxic keyboard warriors who know nothing with an opinion of everything." Yes but it's also full of awesome, supportive people. | |||
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"People are to blame. The media do an excellent job at stirring it all up, but it is ultimately people as a whole that buy in to it and join in on it. People empower the media to do it, the anti-social media lifestyle, mob mentality and just jumping on the hate band wagon are the true issues. Regardless of what the media end up reporting on, there will always be people who will be venomous, vile, hateful, inconsiderate, disrespectful, and toxic. " ![]() | |||
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