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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! " Good argument for not lowering the voting age then, eh? | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! " That's my thought too. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? " OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE." And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! That's my thought too." So would you feel safe if she moved next door to you? | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! That's my thought too. So would you feel safe if she moved next door to you?" Probably a lot safer than some in my area !!!! | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic??" You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! That's my thought too. So would you feel safe if she moved next door to you?" Honestly, I would get to know her and judge then, like any other neighbour. | |||
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"How many babies did she birth and lose? Surely that’s a cruel punishment in itself. She was 15. Who groomed her? Who made a 15 year old CHILD think going abroad to marry a terrorist was a good idea.? I work with vulnerable 15 year old girls. They’re struggling with puberty, friendships, education and self- identity. Offer them love and they’ll grab it with both hands. The system let her down and now she’s at the mercy of the media and politicians clueless about being a 15 year old Asian girl raised in one culture living in another." This is why women shouldn't be in power. | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! " But old enough to know right from wrong and above the age of criminal responsibility. My own thoughts are that the govt is stripping her citizenship because they're concerned that if she were too return they wouldn't be able to put her in jail and there's a very real danger that she still has extremist views. | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! But old enough to know right from wrong and above the age of criminal responsibility. My own thoughts are that the govt is stripping her citizenship because they're concerned that if she were too return they wouldn't be able to put her in jail and there's a very real danger that she still has extremist views." This. | |||
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"How many babies did she birth and lose? Surely that’s a cruel punishment in itself. She was 15. Who groomed her? Who made a 15 year old CHILD think going abroad to marry a terrorist was a good idea.? I work with vulnerable 15 year old girls. They’re struggling with puberty, friendships, education and self- identity. Offer them love and they’ll grab it with both hands. The system let her down and now she’s at the mercy of the media and politicians clueless about being a 15 year old Asian girl raised in one culture living in another. This is why women shouldn't be in power. " Wow | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. " You didn't answer. How does dumping her on somebody else stop the next attack?? Losing citizenship won't put them off because they aren't even scared of dying. So, try again.. | |||
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"How many babies did she birth and lose? Surely that’s a cruel punishment in itself. She was 15. Who groomed her? Who made a 15 year old CHILD think going abroad to marry a terrorist was a good idea.? I work with vulnerable 15 year old girls. They’re struggling with puberty, friendships, education and self- identity. Offer them love and they’ll grab it with both hands. The system let her down and now she’s at the mercy of the media and politicians clueless about being a 15 year old Asian girl raised in one culture living in another. This is why women shouldn't be in power. "  | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. You didn't answer. How does dumping her on somebody else stop the next attack?? Losing citizenship won't put them off because they aren't even scared of dying. So, try again.." OK, welcome her with open arms. Jesus Christ. And people wonder this country is such an easy target for attacks. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. You didn't answer. How does dumping her on somebody else stop the next attack?? Losing citizenship won't put them off because they aren't even scared of dying. So, try again.. OK, welcome her with open arms. Jesus Christ. And people wonder this country is such an easy target for attacks. " Still not answered the question. Plus, who said she should be welcomed with open arms? Should face British justice and punishment then the rehabilitation. That's the trouble these days, people look for simple solutions to complex problems. | |||
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"So she was a deluded child at 15 then? But the same people are telling us to believe everything St Greta is telling us. Hmmm..." She's a qualified scientist, bigot. She doodled the certificate herself. Right in between art and maths. When she can be bothered to go to school, that is. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. You didn't answer. How does dumping her on somebody else stop the next attack?? Losing citizenship won't put them off because they aren't even scared of dying. So, try again.. OK, welcome her with open arms. Jesus Christ. And people wonder this country is such an easy target for attacks. Still not answered the question. Plus, who said she should be welcomed with open arms? Should face British justice and punishment then the rehabilitation. That's the trouble these days, people look for simple solutions to complex problems." Keeping her out will at the very least minimalise an attack. It's base logic. If something is a potential threat, you get rid of it. You don't keep it around. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE." That's not answering my point, are we as a county happy for other countries to take a similar stance? That would mean that all terrorists regardless of country of origin will have to stay in the country they're currently residing in. Not sure i want that, in particular thinking of those who have been found guilty of preaching hate | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! " Exactly this. She was groomed. She was radicalised. And she was a child. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. That's not answering my point, are we as a county happy for other countries to take a similar stance? That would mean that all terrorists regardless of country of origin will have to stay in the country they're currently residing in. Not sure i want that, in particular thinking of those who have been found guilty of preaching hate " Well where do you suggest we put them? Australia would've been a good suggestion several hundred years ago, but it's unfortunately not a dumping ground for convicts anymore. Death for convicted terrorism. Simple. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. You didn't answer. How does dumping her on somebody else stop the next attack?? Losing citizenship won't put them off because they aren't even scared of dying. So, try again.. OK, welcome her with open arms. Jesus Christ. And people wonder this country is such an easy target for attacks. Still not answered the question. Plus, who said she should be welcomed with open arms? Should face British justice and punishment then the rehabilitation. That's the trouble these days, people look for simple solutions to complex problems. Keeping her out will at the very least minimalise an attack. It's base logic. If something is a potential threat, you get rid of it. You don't keep it around." I'm afraid there is absolutely no logic in that at all. She would be detained in this country. | |||
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"I suspect that the government is making an example of her - you leave this country and marry a guy that spends his day beheading innocent people then you don't get to waltz back in when it doesn't work out Also, even at 15 years of age she can hardly have been unaware of what Isis were doing" M8, there are people want to lower the voting age to 16, but then simultaneously tell us that Shamima Begum DiDnT KnOw WhAt ShE WaS DoiNg. Dangerous people. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic?? You have this approach towards ANY terror threat. I can't believe I even need to say this. You didn't answer. How does dumping her on somebody else stop the next attack?? Losing citizenship won't put them off because they aren't even scared of dying. So, try again.. OK, welcome her with open arms. Jesus Christ. And people wonder this country is such an easy target for attacks. Still not answered the question. Plus, who said she should be welcomed with open arms? Should face British justice and punishment then the rehabilitation. That's the trouble these days, people look for simple solutions to complex problems. Keeping her out will at the very least minimalise an attack. It's base logic. If something is a potential threat, you get rid of it. You don't keep it around. I'm afraid there is absolutely no logic in that at all. She would be detained in this country. " In your blinkered view of the world, yes. Not in mine. | |||
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"I suspect that the government is making an example of her - you leave this country and marry a guy that spends his day beheading innocent people then you don't get to waltz back in when it doesn't work out Also, even at 15 years of age she can hardly have been unaware of what Isis were doing M8, there are people want to lower the voting age to 16, but then simultaneously tell us that Shamima Begum DiDnT KnOw WhAt ShE WaS DoiNg. Dangerous people." Personally, I find people who fail to think about nuanced problems and fix them with simple solutions more dangerous | |||
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"Controversial topic, but I know that personally I wouldn’t want the rest of my life to be defined and impacted by the choices I made when I was 15. "  | |||
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"Whereas the hating that her organisation did is perfectly justified. See, we're only using words. Her organisation use actions. Think about that. | |||
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"Shamima Begum has lost the first stage of her campaign against being stripped of her UK citizenship. She was only 15 when she left. Not old enough to vote, not old enough to order a beer in a pub, not old enough to join the UK Armed Forces, not old enough to leave school, not old enough to legally have sexual relations.. Any thoughts.. Harsh decision or not ?" not harsh at all deport her and her family and known associates, we're to soft awwww shes only a child jeez that child was up for killing people, innocent people, good job she didn't achieve what she was recruited for otherwise it would be a different story and as long as shes in this country she should be tagged, we need to get tough before more innocent people are killed and maimed | |||
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"Good hating everyone
"You don't hate terrorists? | |||
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"Good hating everyone
You don't hate terrorists?"They only hate their own kind. If it has brown skin or speaks another language, all crimes are acquitted. | |||
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"Shamima Begum has lost the first stage of her campaign against being stripped of her UK citizenship. She was only 15 when she left. Not old enough to vote, not old enough to order a beer in a pub, not old enough to join the UK Armed Forces, not old enough to leave school, not old enough to legally have sexual relations.. Any thoughts.. Harsh decision or not ?not harsh at all deport her and her family and known associates, we're to soft awwww shes only a child jeez that child was up for killing people, innocent people, good job she didn't achieve what she was recruited for otherwise it would be a different story and as long as shes in this country she should be tagged, we need to get tough before more innocent people are killed and maimed "And let's be honest, her 'grooming' began a long time before she made contact with Isis. She was raised to not question. I wonder what kind of education she had and who her teachers were | |||
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They only hate their own kind. If it has brown skin or speaks another language, all crimes are acquitted."Finally, we go there. Thoughts so.... | |||
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"Shamima Begum has lost the first stage of her campaign against being stripped of her UK citizenship. She was only 15 when she left. Not old enough to vote, not old enough to order a beer in a pub, not old enough to join the UK Armed Forces, not old enough to leave school, not old enough to legally have sexual relations.. Any thoughts.. Harsh decision or not ?not harsh at all deport her and her family and known associates, we're to soft awwww shes only a child jeez that child was up for killing people, innocent people, good job she didn't achieve what she was recruited for otherwise it would be a different story and as long as shes in this country she should be tagged, we need to get tough before more innocent people are killed and maimed
And let's be honest, her 'grooming' began a long time before she made contact with Isis. She was raised to not question. I wonder what kind of education she had and who her teachers were"The fact that she lived in the UK until the age of 15 is deeply concerning. More needs to be done to counter terrorist grooming. | |||
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They only hate their own kind. If it has brown skin or speaks another language, all crimes are acquitted.
Finally, we go there. Thoughts so...."I am referring to people who are apologists of any criminal if they are of another race or nationality, doofus. They are commonly known as cucks. | |||
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"If she was a 15 year old white kid from Rotherham who had been groomed by Muslims the same people hating on her would view her as a victim and be hating on those who groomed her. Grooming takes many forms. I'm not sure we can pick and choose when we do and don't have sympathy for the victim " | |||
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"If she was a 15 year old white kid from Rotherham who had been groomed by Muslims the same people hating on her would view her as a victim and be hating on those who groomed her. Grooming takes many forms. I'm not sure we can pick and choose when we do and don't have sympathy for the victim " If she was white, I'd still have the same attitude. However, the only grooming white girls receive from Muslims are the sexual kind. | |||
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"How many babies did she birth and lose? Surely that’s a cruel punishment in itself. She was 15. Who groomed her? Who made a 15 year old CHILD think going abroad to marry a terrorist was a good idea.? I work with vulnerable 15 year old girls. They’re struggling with puberty, friendships, education and self- identity. Offer them love and they’ll grab it with both hands. The system let her down and now she’s at the mercy of the media and politicians clueless about being a 15 year old Asian girl raised in one culture living in another. This is why women shouldn't be in power. " In case they clear up the mess men make ? | |||
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"Shamima Begum has lost the first stage of her campaign against being stripped of her UK citizenship. She was only 15 when she left. Not old enough to vote, not old enough to order a beer in a pub, not old enough to join the UK Armed Forces, not old enough to leave school, not old enough to legally have sexual relations.. Any thoughts.. Harsh decision or not ?not harsh at all deport her and her family and known associates, we're to soft awwww shes only a child jeez that child was up for killing people, innocent people, good job she didn't achieve what she was recruited for otherwise it would be a different story and as long as shes in this country she should be tagged, we need to get tough before more innocent people are killed and maimed
And let's be honest, her 'grooming' began a long time before she made contact with Isis. She was raised to not question. I wonder what kind of education she had and who her teachers were
The fact that she lived in the UK until the age of 15 is deeply concerning. More needs to be done to counter terrorist grooming."It's deeply worrying that the government handed over the education of children to religious groups I think Christopher Hitchens described it as 'cultural suicide' | |||
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"We seem to heading down the 'all Muslims are terrorists' path on this thread. Britain 2020.....a place for sweeping generalisations and the hard of thinking. " Don't think anyone's saying that, m8. However, Islam's teachings in schools and mosques do leave a lot to be desired. The problem is with the religion itself, not necessarily individual Muslims. | |||
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"Shamima Begum has lost the first stage of her campaign against being stripped of her UK citizenship. She was only 15 when she left. Not old enough to vote, not old enough to order a beer in a pub, not old enough to join the UK Armed Forces, not old enough to leave school, not old enough to legally have sexual relations.. Any thoughts.. Harsh decision or not ?not harsh at all deport her and her family and known associates, we're to soft awwww shes only a child jeez that child was up for killing people, innocent people, good job she didn't achieve what she was recruited for otherwise it would be a different story and as long as shes in this country she should be tagged, we need to get tough before more innocent people are killed and maimed
And let's be honest, her 'grooming' began a long time before she made contact with Isis. She was raised to not question. I wonder what kind of education she had and who her teachers were
The fact that she lived in the UK until the age of 15 is deeply concerning. More needs to be done to counter terrorist grooming.
It's deeply worrying that the government handed over the education of children to religious groups
I think Christopher Hitchens described it as 'cultural suicide'"Hitchens was such a brilliant man. | |||
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"If she was a 15 year old white kid from Rotherham who had been groomed by Muslims the same people hating on her would view her as a victim and be hating on those who groomed her. Grooming takes many forms. I'm not sure we can pick and choose when we do and don't have sympathy for the victim If she was white, I'd still have the same attitude. However, the only grooming white girls receive from Muslims are the sexual kind." So to be clear a 15 year old white girl groomed by muslims in Rotherham is a victim. But a 15 year old Muslim girl groomed by muslims isnt? Even begum was in Syria for one reason and that wasn't to fight | |||
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"If she was a 15 year old white kid from Rotherham who had been groomed by Muslims the same people hating on her would view her as a victim and be hating on those who groomed her. Grooming takes many forms. I'm not sure we can pick and choose when we do and don't have sympathy for the victim " I'll reserve my sympathy for the people her husband beheaded while she cooked for him and kept the house clean | |||
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"Wow She was a child when she went Interesting the views on this ... I obviously don’t condone anything she’s done, but she was a child !! " She wasnt a child over there though and still decided to stay until her adult years, She lost the right to British Citizenship the minute cock parted cheek, I knew full well what i was doing at 11 years old never mind 15, Allah will take care of her, God is great innit!  | |||
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"If she was a 15 year old white kid from Rotherham who had been groomed by Muslims the same people hating on her would view her as a victim and be hating on those who groomed her. Grooming takes many forms. I'm not sure we can pick and choose when we do and don't have sympathy for the victim If she was white, I'd still have the same attitude. However, the only grooming white girls receive from Muslims are the sexual kind. So to be clear a 15 year old white girl groomed by muslims in Rotherham is a victim. But a 15 year old Muslim girl groomed by muslims isnt? Even begum was in Syria for one reason and that wasn't to fight" White girls don't come out of a grooming session wanting to join ISIS. | |||
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"It's a bit hypocritical of Britain in my opinion. We want to deport people who preach hate to their country fair enough. But then we're appearing not to do the same, does this mean that other countries say, well you didn't so why should we? OK, we'll just sit back and wait for the next inevitable terror attack. ZERO TOLERANCE. And keeping her out will stop the next attack.....explain this deeply flawed logic??" A deterrent to make people think twice, Nothing will stop terror attacks we are a weak country, until this affects you directly by losing a friend or loved one you will never understand | |||
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"Ok, so losing citizenship will stop these people but they are prepared to die....as in they are not scared. Is that simpler??" IF. THEY. CAN'T. COME. INTO. THE. COUNTRY. THEY. CAN'T. KILL. ANYONE. IN. THE. COUNTRY. Understand? | |||
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"Ok, so losing citizenship will stop these people but they are prepared to die....as in they are not scared. Is that simpler??" Do you support Labour by any chance | |||
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"Ok, so losing citizenship will stop these people but they are prepared to die....as in they are not scared. Is that simpler?? Do you support Labour by any chance"  | |||
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"We seem to heading down the 'all Muslims are terrorists' path on this thread. Britain 2020.....a place for sweeping generalisations and the hard of thinking. " Islamophobia does add fuel to the fire and does serve to encourage jihadists. But on the other hand people do have legimate cause to be concerned about the potential reintroduction of a m_mber of a terrorist organisation into society, both the Begum girl and the automatic release of suspects from prison . | |||
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"Ok, so losing citizenship will stop these people but they are prepared to die....as in they are not scared. Is that simpler?? IF. THEY. CAN'T. COME. INTO. THE. COUNTRY. THEY. CAN'T. KILL. ANYONE. IN. THE. COUNTRY. Understand? " I think your caps lock and full stop are playing up | |||
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"We seem to heading down the 'all Muslims are terrorists' path on this thread. Britain 2020.....a place for sweeping generalisations and the hard of thinking. Islamophobia does add fuel to the fire and does serve to encourage jihadists. But on the other hand people do have legimate cause to be concerned about the potential reintroduction of a m_mber of a terrorist organisation into society, both the Begum girl and the automatic release of suspects from prison . " This is true but theres no such thing as Islamaphobia this was made up, | |||
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"My opinion is she shouldn’t be allowed back. But I think one of the reasons people don’t want her back is they know she’ll go to prison,go through a rehabilitation course and then will be back on the streets within maybe 10 years if that. The government is too soft,prisoners have it way to easy these days.but I imagine that’s another discussion for another day " Don't forget, prison is a breeding ground for terror grooming. Just look at the last few attacks in London. People immediately released from prison and they attack as soon as they're out. That's why death is the only solution. | |||
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"Shamima Begum as far as I am aware has committed no crimes except joining a proscribed organisation. She didn't commit any acts or facilitate any acts of terrorism. Maria Gatland joined the IRA in her twenties and was involved in arms buying expeditions. She is currently a Conservative councillor in Croydon. Compare." You need to read up on what Begum assisted ISIS with. And as far as the IRA go, they can burn in hell too. | |||
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"We seem to heading down the 'all Muslims are terrorists' path on this thread. Britain 2020.....a place for sweeping generalisations and the hard of thinking. Islamophobia does add fuel to the fire and does serve to encourage jihadists. But on the other hand people do have legimate cause to be concerned about the potential reintroduction of a m_mber of a terrorist organisation into society, both the Begum girl and the automatic release of suspects from prison . This is true but theres no such thing as Islamaphobia this was made up, How is it made up? well considering theres no such thing as Judaism aphobia, christianity aphobia, or any other religion aphobia, I dont see why this ones anything special to be honest, suits their needs to make a word up for all the left wingers to cling on to. Its never a religion of peace i've read the Quran, People like Begum will never be persuaded against radicalisation. Humanism all the way," Judaism phobia is called Anti Semitism. And all words are made up. | |||
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"Shamima Begum as far as I am aware has committed no crimes except joining a proscribed organisation. She didn't commit any acts or facilitate any acts of terrorism. Maria Gatland joined the IRA in her twenties and was involved in arms buying expeditions. She is currently a Conservative councillor in Croydon. Compare." Massively disagree, I have a friend who went over to fight against Isis, he was arrested and charged with terrorism offences, he's still in prison as we speak. Still an act regardless if anything was carried out or not, she still supported and loved amongst the fighters, how do we know she wasn't involved! | |||
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"We seem to heading down the 'all Muslims are terrorists' path on this thread. Britain 2020.....a place for sweeping generalisations and the hard of thinking. Islamophobia does add fuel to the fire and does serve to encourage jihadists. But on the other hand people do have legimate cause to be concerned about the potential reintroduction of a m_mber of a terrorist organisation into society, both the Begum girl and the automatic release of suspects from prison . This is true but theres no such thing as Islamaphobia this was made up, I disagree. I've heard lots of vitriol directed to and about Muslims, very nasty generalisations and outright hatred. You should see what Muslims do to white people in Islamic majority countries. It'll make these 'nasty words' look like a Disney advert. I'll be honest I've never felt anything but welcome in Muslim countries. What should of happened to me?" Hey egomaniac, sorry to labour the point but I'm still curious what should have happened to me when I've travelled in Islamic countries? | |||
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"My opinion is she shouldn’t be allowed back. But I think one of the reasons people don’t want her back is they know she’ll go to prison,go through a rehabilitation course and then will be back on the streets within maybe 10 years if that. The government is too soft,prisoners have it way to easy these days.but I imagine that’s another discussion for another day Don't forget, prison is a breeding ground for terror grooming. Just look at the last few attacks in London. People immediately released from prison and they attack as soon as they're out. That's why death is the only solution. " I agree to a point. She shouldn’t be allowed back here. But the ones who blatantly set out to kill like the man who killed that man(was his name rigby or something?) then that is when capital punishment should come back. But not just for terrorists.i know people have wrongfully been sentenced to death in the past but for nailed on murderers it should be brought back.prison is too good for them when they’ve taken a life and left families in pieces | |||
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"Funny how we love to think of ourselves as this great power in the world yet we can't take responsibility for our own citizens. Regardless of what she has done, she is a British citizen. We can't just palm her off to be somebody else's problem. Must look great to the rest of the world. I don't want her back here at all but recognise that she is our rubbish, not to be dumped and made some Ody else's problem. If we want to be taken seriously internationally (especially after Brexit) this is not the way to do it." I agree wholeheartedly. We had a part to play in her creation. She is a British citizen. She was raised here and studied here. Made freinds here and shopped here. She fucked off to join a terrorist cult but that does not mean we can wash our hands of her. When did Britain become so culturally weak that we could not deal with our own problems? Rather try and force another country with no relative relation to her. Not to mention leaving her stateless which I'm pretty sure goes against her human rights, rights that we helped make after the horrors of the Second World War under the principle of never again (correct me if wrong, not 100% sure on it being a HR). | |||
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"We seem to heading down the 'all Muslims are terrorists' path on this thread. Britain 2020.....a place for sweeping generalisations and the hard of thinking. Islamophobia does add fuel to the fire and does serve to encourage jihadists. But on the other hand people do have legimate cause to be concerned about the potential reintroduction of a m_mber of a terrorist organisation into society, both the Begum girl and the automatic release of suspects from prison . This is true but theres no such thing as Islamaphobia this was made up, I disagree. I've heard lots of vitriol directed to and about Muslims, very nasty generalisations and outright hatred. You should see what Muslims do to white people in Islamic majority countries. It'll make these 'nasty words' look like a Disney advert. I'll be honest I've never felt anything but welcome in Muslim countries. What should of happened to me? Hey egomaniac, sorry to labour the point but I'm still curious what should have happened to me when I've travelled in Islamic countries?" And me I worked in Pakistan (3 years) Upper Dir and Swat I worked in Afghanistan (2 Years) (Badakshan and Kabul) In fact I have worked in all countries named Stan for a total 15+ years and lo and behold, I'm not dead. Got stabbed by nutters in Reading (twice), and Coventry. Stabbed with an insulin syringe in Pimlico (go figure!) I will let you guess what demographic they were......... | |||
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"The death penalty wouldn't be harsh enough. This is terrifying. " Not as terrifying as what they would do to you just for being associated with this site and lifestyle | |||
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"Genuine question... Does anybody think making an example of her is a deterrent to future wannabe terrorists?" Not at all. History proves this is not the case. A recent related example is Bin Laden. Paid with his life (apparently). Did that stop al-Baghdadi? No and he paid with his life. Did that stop Zarqawi? No, not at all. | |||
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"Genuine question... Does anybody think making an example of her is a deterrent to future wannabe terrorists? Not at all. History proves this is not the case. A recent related example is Bin Laden. Paid with his life (apparently). Did that stop al-Baghdadi? No and he paid with his life. Did that stop Zarqawi? No, not at all." Bumping off the leaders has zero affect but it would be a great Monty Python sketch.. Who wants to be leader? Not me.. you Not me .. you Not me .. you | |||
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"Genuine question... Does anybody think making an example of her is a deterrent to future wannabe terrorists? No. It is far more likely to create rather deter future extremism" So keeping terrorists out of the country will only create more? | |||
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"Genuine question... Does anybody think making an example of her is a deterrent to future wannabe terrorists? No. It is far more likely to create rather deter future extremism So keeping terrorists out of the country will only create more? That's not the question you asked though is it?" Oh I thought it was | |||
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"Genuine question... Does anybody think making an example of her is a deterrent to future wannabe terrorists? Not at all. History proves this is not the case. A recent related example is Bin Laden. Paid with his life (apparently). Did that stop al-Baghdadi? No and he paid with his life. Did that stop Zarqawi? No, not at all. Bumping off the leaders has zero affect but it would be a great Monty Python sketch.. Who wants to be leader? Not me.. you Not me .. you Not me .. you " Honestly, that would be a great sketch. Can be played up and played down to suit any situation. But in reality, we made an example out of both. The west highlighted that you can not hide from the inevitable, a SEAL team or Delta team crashing through your door. An example was made out of them yet terrorists still follow them. This is deeper than just one man. It's an ideology rooted back in the 80s. When we supported groups to fight the soviets then fucked off when they did our bidding, leaving a bunch of orphans to clean up the mess. | |||
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"The problem here is her contribution to terrorism amounted to very little up to now and she's now being viewed by some as a victim. NONE of us know of she was groomed or made an educated decision, we never will..but let's say she did come back...and let's say the first thing she did after lying low for a year or two was knife a few people in a busy supermarket...the public would demand blood. Personally I'm busy saving up for a nice cabin in the woods away from all the madness of modern society for me, a dog and my guitar...at that point they can do what they like. " And when a string breaks ? | |||
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"The problem here is her contribution to terrorism amounted to very little up to now and she's now being viewed by some as a victim. NONE of us know of she was groomed or made an educated decision, we never will..but let's say she did come back...and let's say the first thing she did after lying low for a year or two was knife a few people in a busy supermarket...the public would demand blood. Personally I'm busy saving up for a nice cabin in the woods away from all the madness of modern society for me, a dog and my guitar...at that point they can do what they like. " Let's just say, she comes back, she serves her time for whatever crimes can be proven, she trains to be a nurse or a doctor, she turns her life around and she saves someone. Or she becomes a teacher and is able to spot when someone is being radicalised and prevents it, time and time again...... | |||
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"The problem here is her contribution to terrorism amounted to very little up to now and she's now being viewed by some as a victim. NONE of us know of she was groomed or made an educated decision, we never will..but let's say she did come back...and let's say the first thing she did after lying low for a year or two was knife a few people in a busy supermarket...the public would demand blood. Personally I'm busy saving up for a nice cabin in the woods away from all the madness of modern society for me, a dog and my guitar...at that point they can do what they like. Let's just say, she comes back, she serves her time for whatever crimes can be proven, she trains to be a nurse or a doctor, she turns her life around and she saves someone. Or she becomes a teacher and is able to spot when someone is being radicalised and prevents it, time and time again...... " We cant tell for sure. I've met the parents of two young lads who were blown up by the PIRA in warrington, who later shook the hands of the perpetrators as well as an ex m_mber of the PIRA who helps prevent and deradicalise terrorists. Honestly, how can we be more bloodthirsty than those parents. | |||
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"How many babies did she birth and lose? Surely that’s a cruel punishment in itself. She was 15. Who groomed her? Who made a 15 year old CHILD think going abroad to marry a terrorist was a good idea.? I work with vulnerable 15 year old girls. They’re struggling with puberty, friendships, education and self- identity. Offer them love and they’ll grab it with both hands. The system let her down and now she’s at the mercy of the media and politicians clueless about being a 15 year old Asian girl raised in one culture living in another. This is why women shouldn't be in power. " Holy what the fuck. Really? Really? You mysoginistic dick! | |||
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"The problem here is her contribution to terrorism amounted to very little up to now and she's now being viewed by some as a victim. NONE of us know of she was groomed or made an educated decision, we never will..but let's say she did come back...and let's say the first thing she did after lying low for a year or two was knife a few people in a busy supermarket...the public would demand blood. Personally I'm busy saving up for a nice cabin in the woods away from all the madness of modern society for me, a dog and my guitar...at that point they can do what they like. Let's just say, she comes back, she serves her time for whatever crimes can be proven, she trains to be a nurse or a doctor, she turns her life around and she saves someone. Or she becomes a teacher and is able to spot when someone is being radicalised and prevents it, time and time again...... " Make a nice Disney movie | |||
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"With regards to age, yes she was 15 but it is not a case of causing trouble on the corner of the street with her mates being mouthy and committing all sorts of minor anti social behaviour. She upped and walked away towards the promises of a terrorist group. At 15 I knew exactly what that would entail, everyone I knew at that age would have known exactly what doing that would lead to. 15 may be impressionable but they are not stupid or totally clueless when it comes to something big like this. Following on from that, she essentially committed treason, at the very least not far from it. She turned her back on her country, family, friends etc in favour of a terrorist organisation. Regardless of what parts she played there, she was a part of it. She was in support of them on some level. Don't care who she is, what race, what age, what gender/sex. You go and have any positive support for a terrorist organisation on such a level as that, especially one that has attacked your country or its allies and you have forgone and given up all right as having any sympathetic support from me." And this ^^ wins most sensible comment on the whole thread. . Totally agree with you. | |||
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"The problem here is her contribution to terrorism amounted to very little up to now and she's now being viewed by some as a victim. NONE of us know of she was groomed or made an educated decision, we never will..but let's say she did come back...and let's say the first thing she did after lying low for a year or two was knife a few people in a busy supermarket...the public would demand blood. Personally I'm busy saving up for a nice cabin in the woods away from all the madness of modern society for me, a dog and my guitar...at that point they can do what they like. " Can I come? I'll feed the dog and play along with a tambourine | |||
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Show me where I said I was perfect...."the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates | |||
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"With regards to age, yes she was 15 but it is not a case of causing trouble on the corner of the street with her mates being mouthy and committing all sorts of minor anti social behaviour. She upped and walked away towards the promises of a terrorist group. At 15 I knew exactly what that would entail, everyone I knew at that age would have known exactly what doing that would lead to. 15 may be impressionable but they are not stupid or totally clueless when it comes to something big like this. Following on from that, she essentially committed treason, at the very least not far from it. She turned her back on her country, family, friends etc in favour of a terrorist organisation. Regardless of what parts she played there, she was a part of it. She was in support of them on some level. Don't care who she is, what race, what age, what gender/sex. You go and have any positive support for a terrorist organisation on such a level as that, especially one that has attacked your country or its allies and you have forgone and given up all right as having any sympathetic support from me." So we acknowledge that "this", the United Kingdom is her country then? Because you know, scary old precedent in this one isn't there, she was born in the United Kingdom, but because her mother is from Bangladesh, they can have her instead. Imagine if we did that with all criminals....... | |||
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"I would not want her back in the UK because there is no way it can be proved that she is still not working for IS? I mean surely you don't escape from these people and survive to sell your story to the media propaganda? Not like she is in hiding either. " she is living on a refugee camp and her children are dying....... what would YOU do? | |||
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"With regards to age, yes she was 15 but it is not a case of causing trouble on the corner of the street with her mates being mouthy and committing all sorts of minor anti social behaviour. She upped and walked away towards the promises of a terrorist group. At 15 I knew exactly what that would entail, everyone I knew at that age would have known exactly what doing that would lead to. 15 may be impressionable but they are not stupid or totally clueless when it comes to something big like this. Following on from that, she essentially committed treason, at the very least not far from it. She turned her back on her country, family, friends etc in favour of a terrorist organisation. Regardless of what parts she played there, she was a part of it. She was in support of them on some level. Don't care who she is, what race, what age, what gender/sex. You go and have any positive support for a terrorist organisation on such a level as that, especially one that has attacked your country or its allies and you have forgone and given up all right as having any sympathetic support from me. So we acknowledge that "this", the United Kingdom is her country then? Because you know, scary old precedent in this one isn't there, she was born in the United Kingdom, but because her mother is from Bangladesh, they can have her instead. Imagine if we did that with all criminals......." Her husband is Dutch so is she stateless ? | |||
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Must be so hard as a female being perfect.
Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates "I'm not sure allowing a British citizen to return to britain is an example of a "soft" law. Which countries wouldnt allow that? | |||
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Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates "Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments..... What your problem? | |||
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"With regards to age, yes she was 15 but it is not a case of causing trouble on the corner of the street with her mates being mouthy and committing all sorts of minor anti social behaviour. She upped and walked away towards the promises of a terrorist group. At 15 I knew exactly what that would entail, everyone I knew at that age would have known exactly what doing that would lead to. 15 may be impressionable but they are not stupid or totally clueless when it comes to something big like this. Following on from that, she essentially committed treason, at the very least not far from it. She turned her back on her country, family, friends etc in favour of a terrorist organisation. Regardless of what parts she played there, she was a part of it. She was in support of them on some level. Don't care who she is, what race, what age, what gender/sex. You go and have any positive support for a terrorist organisation on such a level as that, especially one that has attacked your country or its allies and you have forgone and given up all right as having any sympathetic support from me. So we acknowledge that "this", the United Kingdom is her country then? Because you know, scary old precedent in this one isn't there, she was born in the United Kingdom, but because her mother is from Bangladesh, they can have her instead. Imagine if we did that with all criminals....... Her husband is Dutch so is she stateless ?" She is NOT stateless because she is (like it or not) she is British, this is where she was BORN. Is it really that hard to comprehend, or do all British people who commit crimes have to accept the nationality of their parents or their spouses, because immigration is going to be woefully busy....... Like it or not, she was radicalised in THIS country. She is OUR problem, just because that sours the tongue it doesn't mean we can spit it out | |||
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"She's British, therefore 'family' bring her back, put her in jail if it's justifiable to do so but don't abandon her. Let's be different than the terrorist. The whole idea of the terror campaign is to decide - we must stay United." Well said! She should be tried and punished as if she were any other british person who committed a crime | |||
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Must be so hard as a female being perfect.
Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates
Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments.....
What your problem?"It's not phobic to criticise religion. Not yet anyway | |||
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"Are the welcomers the sympathisers.. I don't know..." as we are positing flamebait questions, do you think that people that promote extreme views by posting "innocuous" moronic questions are as guilty of grooming in much the same way as those most odious of society....? Just a question | |||
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Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates
Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments.....
What your problem?
It's not phobic to criticise religion. Not yet anyway "So what do you think Islamophobia is? | |||
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"Ifd boil the terrorist cunt in oil. " Would you really? You honestly have it in you to torture someone and ensure their death is horrific for believing in a different ideology? Amd if the answer is honestly yes, maybe you should consider joining ISIS because with that mindset you have more in common with them than you'd probably care to admit | |||
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"Guys will post gross opinions on topics like this then make threads starting they've never had sex with a black or Asian woman
Must be so hard as a female being perfect.
Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates
Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments.....
What your problem?
It's not phobic to criticise religion. Not yet anyway
So what do you think Islamophobia is? "A label thrown at people who question and criticise Islam Why? What do you think it is? | |||
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"Guys will post gross opinions on topics like this then make threads starting they've never had sex with a black or Asian woman
Must be so hard as a female being perfect.
Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates
Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments.....
What your problem?
It's not phobic to criticise religion. Not yet anyway
So what do you think Islamophobia is?
A label thrown at people who question and criticise Islam
Why? What do you think it is?"Thank you for proving my point xxxxx | |||
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"Personally I think its not harsh enough, She ran off to join a terror organisation, just unfortunate that she wasn't took out in a drone strike, the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist " Y'all got that right! | |||
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"Guys will post gross opinions on topics like this then make threads starting they've never had sex with a black or Asian woman
Must be so hard as a female being perfect.
Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates
Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments.....
What your problem?
It's not phobic to criticise religion. Not yet anyway
So what do you think Islamophobia is?
A label thrown at people who question and criticise Islam
Why? What do you think it is?
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"How many babies did she birth and lose? Surely that’s a cruel punishment in itself. She was 15. Who groomed her? Who made a 15 year old CHILD think going abroad to marry a terrorist was a good idea.? I work with vulnerable 15 year old girls. They’re struggling with puberty, friendships, education and self- identity. Offer them love and they’ll grab it with both hands. The system let her down and now she’s at the mercy of the media and politicians clueless about being a 15 year old Asian girl raised in one culture living in another." This. I also work in safeguarding young people as part of my job. This should never have been able to happen. The fact it did is a failure on so many levels and in my opinion why the government wish to wipe their hands of it rather than address those failings and take responsibility. It just baffles me that some fail to see the irony in banging on about border control when we allowed a child to go to Syria on someone else's passport. | |||
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"Send her to the front line to earn her citizenship back. Doubt she will come back alive so everyone’s a winner " Loving your work!!! | |||
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Must be so hard as a female being perfect.
Show me where I said I was perfect....the thread was about a specific person associated with terrorism and our soft laws considering letting said person back into a country she hates
Correct and I made a comment related to the men making racial stereotypes and islamophobic comments.....
What your problem?
It's not phobic to criticise religion. Not yet anyway "agreed and as religion has been responsible for most wars that have taken place in the earths history and as the messenger of god mohammed isn't present within the isis movement only hate and death then quite rightly its frowned upon now, appreciated many good people are muslims and many bad people are atheists but the begum girl was a budding terrorist, no one even a good Muslim can have sympathy for her | |||
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"With regards to age, yes she was 15 but it is not a case of causing trouble on the corner of the street with her mates being mouthy and committing all sorts of minor anti social behaviour. She upped and walked away towards the promises of a terrorist group. At 15 I knew exactly what that would entail, everyone I knew at that age would have known exactly what doing that would lead to. 15 may be impressionable but they are not stupid or totally clueless when it comes to something big like this. Following on from that, she essentially committed treason, at the very least not far from it. She turned her back on her country, family, friends etc in favour of a terrorist organisation. Regardless of what parts she played there, she was a part of it. She was in support of them on some level. Don't care who she is, what race, what age, what gender/sex. You go and have any positive support for a terrorist organisation on such a level as that, especially one that has attacked your country or its allies and you have forgone and given up all right as having any sympathetic support from me. So we acknowledge that "this", the United Kingdom is her country then? Because you know, scary old precedent in this one isn't there, she was born in the United Kingdom, but because her mother is from Bangladesh, they can have her instead. Imagine if we did that with all criminals......." I didn't say it wasn't. However she turned her back on it and walked away. Despite knowing (or not being sheltered from) what the terrorists had done, not aimed at or targeting actual political or military leaders but with intent to harm civilians, not as collateral damage but as the intended target (actual civilian casualties of war are a whole other topic). By walking away, in my eyes, she waved goodbye to being our problem. She is on her own Plenty of homeless and vulnerable people still in this country (of all ages and races) not in support of terrorism that should be given the support and effort instead of her. Again, this is not some person who went on holiday and caused a bit of trouble, got arrested and is just being left. She knowingly went in support of a terrorist organisation that would gladly kill every single British citizen or ally (regardless of race) without a second thought. She chose to give up her support for and from this country in favour of those who wish death upon its citizens. | |||
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