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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Some people of Chinese appearance in the UK are reporting Coronavirus racism. An example being people preferring to stand than sit next to them.

Is this racism or something else. Formula 1 are planning to reschedule the Chinese Grand Prix. Surely that is sensible precaution and not racism ...

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Treating someone in a markedly different way because of the colour of their skin and/ or facial features is racism per se. (leaving to one side the argument about sexual preference)

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

The latter is not racism, its logical safety.

The former is certainly a form of racism. It's not racism based on hate, but irrational fear and uneducated logic. Like it is only people of Chinese decent that carry the virus.

Some will be using it as an excuse to hide their racism behind.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Those in my opinion are 2 different things. Avoiding all Chinese people in the UK just in case is wrong.

Avoiding bringing thousands of people together regardless of ethnicity in a country where a virus outbreak has started, and then would travel to another country in a few weeks time, common sense

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon. "

I'm so sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I blame the media and the government making a mountain out of a mole hill the mortality rate is only 2% there acting like its ebola or the T virus ffs

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By *nto My ArmsMan
over a year ago

Herts/London


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon. "

Shocking. I do hope the school is dealing with it robustly.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

I'm so sorry "

Thank you, I just find it so sad.

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By *ottielayWoman
over a year ago

by the bay


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon. "

Aww that’s sad

Obviously from the parents passing on their own insecurities

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

I'm so sorry

Thank you, I just find it so sad."

It's so fucking awful that anyone is treated in this way, let alone a child.

Being of Chinese appearance does not mean that one is infectious.

I'm going to put it in such stark terms. Those avoiding those of Chinese appearance are assuming that those of Chinese appearance are more likely to be carrying a disease.

That is racist.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Shocking. I do hope the school is dealing with it robustly. "

They are indeed very concerned about it and have written to a number of parents.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?"

Apart from Chinese New year weekend trade in Chinatown is down by 20% on last year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a more an indictment of how some people are too dull to throw shit at.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I saw the pictures..

But is it racism or precaution.. ?

I actually tend to think it's precaution..

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?"

Not in the slightest - why should I be?

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

I'm so sorry

Thank you, I just find it so sad.

It's so fucking awful that anyone is treated in this way, let alone a child.

Being of Chinese appearance does not mean that one is infectious.

I'm going to put it in such stark terms. Those avoiding those of Chinese appearance are assuming that those of Chinese appearance are more likely to be carrying a disease.

That is racist."

Seemingly my Son in Law, British born to parents born in Hong Kong when under British rule, experiences racism on a weekly basis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon. "

This disgusts and infuriates me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?

Apart from Chinese New year weekend trade in Chinatown is down by 20% on last year"

You can’t fix stupid, some peoples ignorance is beyond belief

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Shocking. I do hope the school is dealing with it robustly.

They are indeed very concerned about it and have written to a number of parents."

I can’t say I would be as polite in writing I’ll be kicking there door down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?"

What's so special about Soho?

I wouldn't go there only because I don't like going in to London because, a) it's a pain in the arse and b) I hate London - probably because I used to have to travel to work there for 5 years.

I've still been partaking in Chinese food as usual.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I blame the media and the government making a mountain out of a mole hill the mortality rate is only 2% there acting like its ebola or the T virus ffs"

Exactly this. I'm a microbiologist and I am not overly concerned about it.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon. "

This is truly horrible I'm so sorry to hear this x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?

What's so special about Soho?

I wouldn't go there only because I don't like going in to London because, a) it's a pain in the arse and b) I hate London - probably because I used to have to travel to work there for 5 years.

I've still been partaking in Chinese food as usual."

don’t go there then ? nobody is forcing you! A lot of us do enjoy going to London to eat socialise etc

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By *ottielayWoman
over a year ago

by the bay


"I blame the media and the government making a mountain out of a mole hill the mortality rate is only 2% there acting like its ebola or the T virus ffs

Exactly this. I'm a microbiologist and I am not overly concerned about it. "

Same!

No one in the lab is particularly worried

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?"

Definitely not, it’s an absurd way of thinking, just like the comments the grandson above is experiencing

I find it so sad that we have people, and yes I’m going to say, dumb enough to believe the press and then actively target an ethnic group based on that

Beggars belief !

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?

What's so special about Soho?

I wouldn't go there only because I don't like going in to London because, a) it's a pain in the arse and b) I hate London - probably because I used to have to travel to work there for 5 years.

I've still been partaking in Chinese food as usual.

don’t go there then ? nobody is forcing you! A lot of us do enjoy going to London to eat socialise etc"

What's special about Soho?

Well I do enjoy Peking Duck..

Not the crispy one and the only place I have had it is in Soho.. I always have it at the same place on Gerrard Street..

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate .."

Being worried about your children is no excuse to encourage racism towards a child who is probably no more likely to have been exposed to the virus than the other children in the class

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Would anyone be deterred from taking their loved ones and children to a Chinese restaurant in Soho ?

Definitely not, it’s an absurd way of thinking, just like the comments the grandson above is experiencing

I find it so sad that we have people, and yes I’m going to say, dumb enough to believe the press and then actively target an ethnic group based on that

Beggars belief ! "

Well if takings are down by 20% then lots of people are perhaps concerned. I don't for one minute think it's racism myself but we are all different.. why risk the health of a small child..

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By *essie.Woman
over a year ago

Serendipity

Don’t more people die of malaria daily ? They don’t report those statistics.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

I'm so sorry

Thank you, I just find it so sad.

It's so fucking awful that anyone is treated in this way, let alone a child.

Being of Chinese appearance does not mean that one is infectious.

I'm going to put it in such stark terms. Those avoiding those of Chinese appearance are assuming that those of Chinese appearance are more likely to be carrying a disease.

That is racist.

Seemingly my Son in Law, British born to parents born in Hong Kong when under British rule, experiences racism on a weekly basis."

I believe it

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate .."

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate .."

These parents would be better off spending time on explaining infection control, rather than telling them not to sit by certain students if they are that concerned.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate .."

I do not seem to rem_mber any issues with the African community when some Ebola virus cases were found in the UK,

I think the rapid growth of Social Media may have an influence on the current situation.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children."

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children."

This

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation.."

I didn't say they were stupid. They are hateful and harming people, and they need to stop that. "Don't hurt people" is a lesson we give to toddlers.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Aww that’s sad

Obviously from the parents passing on their own insecurities "

Parents passing on their ignorance more like.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

I didn't say they were stupid. They are hateful and harming people, and they need to stop that. "Don't hurt people" is a lesson we give to toddlers."

I don't think they are hateful. They may be misinformed but not hateful.

Hate is a strong word..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children."
education changes time to time place to place im sure in iran donald trump is taught to be a genius of a businessman to the next generation im not excusing it as i agree its utterly wrong to attack kids but education is not a black and white thing

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Aww that’s sad

Obviously from the parents passing on their own insecurities

Parents passing on their ignorance more like. "

I think they are passing on their ignorance. But ignorance is often just a lack of knowledge or understanding and let's not forget that some people are not capable of understanding

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

I didn't say they were stupid. They are hateful and harming people, and they need to stop that. "Don't hurt people" is a lesson we give to toddlers.

I don't think they are hateful. They may be misinformed but not hateful.

Hate is a strong word.. "

They are profoundly hateful. Racism is hatred. They are racist. This evil, hateful, despicable racism should be wiped from the earth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

These parents would be better off spending time on explaining infection control, rather than telling them not to sit by certain students if they are that concerned."

exactly that

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

I didn't say they were stupid. They are hateful and harming people, and they need to stop that. "Don't hurt people" is a lesson we give to toddlers.

I don't think they are hateful. They may be misinformed but not hateful.

Hate is a strong word.. "

No they are hateful, anyone who targets a child (or anyone for that matter) for no other reason than the colour of their skin, race, religion or sexuality is the lowest of the low. Why would this child be any more likely to have the virus than any of his classmates?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon. "

Tut tut..that's bad, as someone else said, uneducated people...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

I didn't say they were stupid. They are hateful and harming people, and they need to stop that. "Don't hurt people" is a lesson we give to toddlers.

I don't think they are hateful. They may be misinformed but not hateful.

Hate is a strong word..

They are profoundly hateful. Racism is hatred. They are racist. This evil, hateful, despicable racism should be wiped from the earth."

Blimey.. you sound like a hanging judge...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

We should change the word racism to fucktardiness. Always seems to be thick people who are racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it."
It comes down to parenting and for them to educate their kids to not to say it*

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation.."

They can listen to the news though, there is plenty of information on there.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"We should change the word racism to fucktardiness. Always seems to be thick people who are racist."

And being thick is bad thing..,?

Every class has its dunce. They are not bad.. just uneducated. And many not capable of understanding..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

I didn't say they were stupid. They are hateful and harming people, and they need to stop that. "Don't hurt people" is a lesson we give to toddlers.

I don't think they are hateful. They may be misinformed but not hateful.

Hate is a strong word..

They are profoundly hateful. Racism is hatred. They are racist. This evil, hateful, despicable racism should be wiped from the earth.

Blimey.. you sound like a hanging judge... "

Fortunately words are often just words, whereas mistreatment of a child is significantly worse.

And I'm opposed to the death penalty.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

They can listen to the news though, there is plenty of information on there."

Yes. Ignorance can be corrected, not mollycoddled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it."
cos children always do as there told

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Parents are just worried about their children and it's very unfortunate ..

Maybe they should educate themselves rather than being ignorant and harming other people and their children.

Not everybody is as clever or as intelligent as you.. many parents cannot read or write ... It does not always mean they stupid but I understand their situation..

They can listen to the news though, there is plenty of information on there.

Yes. Ignorance can be corrected, not mollycoddled."

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Aww that’s sad

Obviously from the parents passing on their own insecurities

Parents passing on their ignorance more like.

I think they are passing on their ignorance. But ignorance is often just a lack of knowledge or understanding and let's not forget that some people are not capable of understanding"

There is no excuse for this, butter it up however you want. The notion that an adult with responsibility for a child (eg a parent) is not capable of understanding why this is wrong is frankly bizarre, and has nothing to do with the ability to read and write.

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Aww that’s sad

Obviously from the parents passing on their own insecurities

Parents passing on their ignorance more like.

I think they are passing on their ignorance. But ignorance is often just a lack of knowledge or understanding and let's not forget that some people are not capable of understanding

There is no excuse for this, butter it up however you want. The notion that an adult with responsibility for a child (eg a parent) is not capable of understanding why this is wrong is frankly bizarre, and has nothing to do with the ability to read and write. "

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I know many educated people who don't ever watch the news.

But if someone watched the news and found that whole cities are in lockdown, pets taken off the streets, everyone wearing a mask, leaving a dead person on the streets because they are frightened of infection, flights cancelled, a manhunt for people recently returned, British people in two week quarantine, a thousand bed hospital built in a week, families allowed to shop only once a week etc etc etc..

Perhaps it might explain, understandably in my view, that some parents might have an itsy bitsy concern that manifests in act unpalatable to most of us..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"My 10yr old grandson is half Chinese, he is experiencing racism in the classroom, other kids in the class have been told by their parents not to sit near him because he might have "that virus".

I am expecting it to happen to my 5yr old granddaughter any time soon.

Aww that’s sad

Obviously from the parents passing on their own insecurities

Parents passing on their ignorance more like.

I think they are passing on their ignorance. But ignorance is often just a lack of knowledge or understanding and let's not forget that some people are not capable of understanding

There is no excuse for this, butter it up however you want. The notion that an adult with responsibility for a child (eg a parent) is not capable of understanding why this is wrong is frankly bizarre, and has nothing to do with the ability to read and write. "

I agree, if you are concerned about your own child, then ask a health care assistant for some information and reassurance.

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I know many educated people who don't ever watch the news.

But if someone watched the news and found that whole cities are in lockdown, pets taken off the streets, everyone wearing a mask, leaving a dead person on the streets because they are frightened of infection, flights cancelled, a manhunt for people recently returned, British people in two week quarantine, a thousand bed hospital built in a week, families allowed to shop only once a week etc etc etc..

Perhaps it might explain, understandably in my view, that some parents might have an itsy bitsy concern that manifests in act unpalatable to most of us.."

But why would this child who lives in Britain be any more likely to be carrying the virus than any other child?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I know many educated people who don't ever watch the news.

But if someone watched the news and found that whole cities are in lockdown, pets taken off the streets, everyone wearing a mask, leaving a dead person on the streets because they are frightened of infection, flights cancelled, a manhunt for people recently returned, British people in two week quarantine, a thousand bed hospital built in a week, families allowed to shop only once a week etc etc etc..

Perhaps it might explain, understandably in my view, that some parents might have an itsy bitsy concern that manifests in act unpalatable to most of us.."

That is not happening in this country, apart from the isolation

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told "

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I know many educated people who don't ever watch the news.

But if someone watched the news and found that whole cities are in lockdown, pets taken off the streets, everyone wearing a mask, leaving a dead person on the streets because they are frightened of infection, flights cancelled, a manhunt for people recently returned, British people in two week quarantine, a thousand bed hospital built in a week, families allowed to shop only once a week etc etc etc..

Perhaps it might explain, understandably in my view, that some parents might have an itsy bitsy concern that manifests in act unpalatable to most of us..

But why would this child who lives in Britain be any more likely to be carrying the virus than any other child? "

He wouldn't in my view

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told "
Yes some not all of them there.

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I know many educated people who don't ever watch the news.

But if someone watched the news and found that whole cities are in lockdown, pets taken off the streets, everyone wearing a mask, leaving a dead person on the streets because they are frightened of infection, flights cancelled, a manhunt for people recently returned, British people in two week quarantine, a thousand bed hospital built in a week, families allowed to shop only once a week etc etc etc..

Perhaps it might explain, understandably in my view, that some parents might have an itsy bitsy concern that manifests in act unpalatable to most of us..

But why would this child who lives in Britain be any more likely to be carrying the virus than any other child?

He wouldn't in my view "

Exactly so if parents are telling their children not to sit near him then no ifs or buts they’re being racist towards an innocent child and saying that they’re worried is no excuse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them."
Yes that is what most parents do.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them."

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?"

Hmm. If that's what you read from what I said, then maybe you need to try again.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?"

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I know many educated people who don't ever watch the news.

But if someone watched the news and found that whole cities are in lockdown, pets taken off the streets, everyone wearing a mask, leaving a dead person on the streets because they are frightened of infection, flights cancelled, a manhunt for people recently returned, British people in two week quarantine, a thousand bed hospital built in a week, families allowed to shop only once a week etc etc etc..

Perhaps it might explain, understandably in my view, that some parents might have an itsy bitsy concern that manifests in act unpalatable to most of us..

But why would this child who lives in Britain be any more likely to be carrying the virus than any other child?

He wouldn't in my view

Exactly so if parents are telling their children not to sit near him then no ifs or buts they’re being racist towards an innocent child and saying that they’re worried is no excuse "

You are speaking from a position of common sense. Not everyone shares that quality..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her"

Good god, how ignorant!

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"We should change the word racism to fucktardiness. Always seems to be thick people who are racist.

And being thick is bad thing..,?

Every class has its dunce. They are not bad.. just uneducated. And many not capable of understanding.."

Being so thick that you refuse to find out facts yourself or be educated instead of spouting what you believe to be reality is a bad thing tome.

I have nothing against people who are lower intelligence and can't do anything about it.

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By *xXgemmaXxXCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age"

You are correct and if a child does say or exhibit racist behaviour towards another person that is still on the parents, children aren’t born to hate

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her"

Exactly.. some people are not that bright unless she was trying to be funny

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age

You are correct and if a child does say or exhibit racist behaviour towards another person that is still on the parents, children aren’t born to hate "

Exactly this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her"

You wanted to punch a woman simply because she was curious of a hairstyle?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age

You are correct and if a child does say or exhibit racist behaviour towards another person that is still on the parents, children aren’t born to hate

Exactly this "

So banish the parents from the earth then

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age

You are correct and if a child does say or exhibit racist behaviour towards another person that is still on the parents, children aren’t born to hate

Exactly this

So banish the parents from the earth then "

Why would we do that? Start with education maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her

Good god, how ignorant!

"
whys that ignorent my nephew is mixed race with blond straight hair its a simple question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her"
bit ott

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them."
good hiding? Slipper? Cut a switch?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Just shows you how ignorant people are. My boy is mixed race and a English woman asked me what curlers I use to curl his hair. Can you imagine. I could have punched her

Good god, how ignorant!

whys that ignorent my nephew is mixed race with blond straight hair its a simple question"

Obviously the poster thought it was ignorant...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age

You are correct and if a child does say or exhibit racist behaviour towards another person that is still on the parents, children aren’t born to hate

Exactly this "
That is right

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Not sure the person should be punched for that one tho..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Not sure the person should be punched for that one tho.. "
,

Maybe said tongue in cheek?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not read the rest of the thread, but it's not racism it xenophobia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure the person should be punched for that one tho.. "

Trust me when you get comments daily you get to the point where you wanna punch someone

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It comes down to parenting and for them to education their kids to not to say it.cos children always do as there told

So if they're horrible, you punish them.

And if the little ones are hateful racists would you banish them from the earth ?

I doubt they are hateful racists at that age

You are correct and if a child does say or exhibit racist behaviour towards another person that is still on the parents, children aren’t born to hate

Exactly this That is right "

Agreed. I wonder at what age a person should be held accountable for racist actions. Should it be the age of criminal responsibility ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not read the rest of the thread, but it's not racism it xenophobia."
yeah i blame the spiders too

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Not sure the person should be punched for that one tho..

Trust me when you get comments daily you get to the point where you wanna punch someone"

Sorry to hear that you keep getting comments. Hope you can find a way through it

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

Thank you for your contributions to this Forum post, It has been a quite well mannered enlightening debate,

We will continue to work with the school to resolve the issues.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land


"Thank you for your contributions to this Forum post, It has been a quite well mannered enlightening debate,

We will continue to work with the school to resolve the issues. "

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-51397409

Know this is Welsh news but maybe of use to you

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london

Racism is wrong. Full stop! And directed at children it’s vile

As I said in a previous post around 500 have died since Christmas from Coronavirus yet around 40,000 due from the flu each month

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Racism is wrong. Full stop! And directed at children it’s vile

As I said in a previous post around 500 have died since Christmas from Coronavirus yet around 40,000 due from the flu each month"
theres the truth of it there

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london


"Racism is wrong. Full stop! And directed at children it’s vile

As I said in a previous post around 500 have died since Christmas from Coronavirus yet around 40,000 due from the flu each month"

*Die not due

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

People can often be idiots.

I've seen posts on social media suggesting people don't order anything from Wish or Ebay as if it's coming from China it might bring the virus with it.

That's just fucking stupid.

The virus has (as far as I understand) a 14 day incubation period.

When did anything from Ebay or Wish ever arrive in under 14 days?

A

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston

A woman at the gym last week said she was worried about getting a Chinese takeaway.

Some people are just uneducated and don't get it!

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london


"A woman at the gym last week said she was worried about getting a Chinese takeaway.

Some people are just uneducated and don't get it!"

Isn’t it correct that viruses can’t survive for long outside of the body anyway?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Thank you for your contributions to this Forum post, It has been a quite well mannered enlightening debate,

We will continue to work with the school to resolve the issues. "

Good and the best of luck to you all

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"A woman at the gym last week said she was worried about getting a Chinese takeaway.

Some people are just uneducated and don't get it!"
perhaps she was worried she would take away something more than her good. There’s a confirmed case in Brighton now

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"A woman at the gym last week said she was worried about getting a Chinese takeaway.

Some people are just uneducated and don't get it! perhaps she was worried she would take away something more than her good. There’s a confirmed case in Brighton now "
food, even

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Thank you for your contributions to this Forum post, It has been a quite well mannered enlightening debate,

We will continue to work with the school to resolve the issues. "

I hope and prey that they safeguard your little ones

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The NHS has been briefed on handling dead bodies which can still transmit the virus. On BBC news they have just said that a case has arrived in UK from a country outside of China. If this mutates then it's worrying. Cases are doubling every 48 hours I think.

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london


"The NHS has been briefed on handling dead bodies which can still transmit the virus. On BBC news they have just said that a case has arrived in UK from a country outside of China. If this mutates then it's worrying. Cases are doubling every 48 hours I think. "

Doubling in China. 3 cases in the U.K. only

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I do understand why people are avoiding China town.. if restaurant staff have recently visited the homeland they could be carriers...

I don't think that's racism.. it's pure common sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its racism.

Most black people I know get this on a normal day to day.

Can guarantee if I'm on the train in certain areas certain people wont sit beside me hahaha

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I do understand why people are avoiding China town.. if restaurant staff have recently visited the homeland they could be carriers...

I don't think that's racism.. it's pure common sense "

Most unlikely

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By *mberWoman
over a year ago

Preston


"A woman at the gym last week said she was worried about getting a Chinese takeaway.

Some people are just uneducated and don't get it! perhaps she was worried she would take away something more than her good. There’s a confirmed case in Brighton now "

Regardless, unless the person working in the takeaway had it and breathed on her I'm fairly confident she'd be fine. Anyway she was there this morning so I'm guessing she survived her chow mein!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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We need to take sensible precautions and if that means cancellations to events then so be it.

Fear does make people behave differently.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"We need to take sensible precautions and if that means cancellations to events then so be it.

Fear does make people behave differently. "

I agree and I am scared.. if this is not the pandemic then another will soon be on us..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"We need to take sensible precautions and if that means cancellations to events then so be it.

Fear does make people behave differently.

I agree and I am scared.. if this is not the pandemic then another will soon be on us.. "

Oh dear

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"Its racism.

Most black people I know get this on a normal day to day.

Can guarantee if I'm on the train in certain areas certain people wont sit beside me hahaha "

To be fair it is not the same.

Well yes it is, it is still the avoidance of a person of a specific skin tone.

However in this specific case there is a small amount of potential logic to their reasoning, even though it is highly uneducated.

Fear of a virus is blinding peoples already poor judgement. Ignoring the ability to do research, if somebody would usually have zero problem sitting next to somebody of Chinese decent but suddenly stops doing so because of their fear of this virus it is from an uneducated fear of the virus.

I'm not excusing the uneducated response people are having because it is hurtful regardless, but it is from a basis of fear of the virus, not hate for Chinese decent (though for some it is a convenient combo).

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's the first of the virus not the person..

I don't think it's racism but we all have different ideas what racism is..

I love Chinese food, culture, people but will lay low in London and not visit China town at the moment and certainly would not bring a child there.. I could not handle the guilt if the child got infected.. not because they are Chinese but because it's more likely that they travelled from an infected area..

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By *trangeleftyMan
over a year ago

London

I have witnessed and seen closet racism against Chinese and it makes my blood boil

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bradford

So what happens if a white kid /guy /woman gets this . Do they then avoid all white people and all places white people go to to eat a shop ? People are ridiculous sometimes

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I have witnessed and seen closet racism against Chinese and it makes my blood boil"

What did you see ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"So what happens if a white kid /guy /woman gets this . Do they then avoid all white people and all places white people go to to eat a shop ? People are ridiculous sometimes "

This is indiscriminate.. it will get most of us in the end or something similar.. nothing to do with race..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people of Chinese appearance in the UK are reporting Coronavirus racism. An example being people preferring to stand than sit next to them.

Is this racism or something else. Formula 1 are planning to reschedule the Chinese Grand Prix. Surely that is sensible precaution and not racism ..."
some people and not excluding the chinese are very over protective of their health some wear masks in central london and some are worried they wont get their money back on the corona bottle

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"So what happens if a white kid /guy /woman gets this . Do they then avoid all white people and all places white people go to to eat a shop ? People are ridiculous sometimes "

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"So what happens if a white kid /guy /woman gets this . Do they then avoid all white people and all places white people go to to eat a shop ? People are ridiculous sometimes

This is indiscriminate.. it will get most of us in the end or something similar.. nothing to do with race.. "

Most of us

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"So what happens if a white kid /guy /woman gets this . Do they then avoid all white people and all places white people go to to eat a shop ? People are ridiculous sometimes "

Of course not. That's different because reasons

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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It's not racism in my opinion, Obviously I don't know the ops full story and kids being kids either don't take on board the full information or exaggerate what they have been told by their parents, Not sitting next to someone for fear of getting sick is just a precaution or people ill informed , If the virus was started in France and there was loads of French people on a train I wouldn't sit next to them either

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By *hickinthewarmMan
over a year ago

Fife

Christ don’t get me started please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Christ don’t get me started please! "
cmon get started

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So banish the parents from the earth then "

You keep coming back to this. I know you're just trying to provoke a response from Swing, but read her post again. She said *racism* should be wiped from the earth, not *racists*. Why do you keep leaping to the defence of racism as a concept?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Send the buggers back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its racism.

Most black people I know get this on a normal day to day.

Can guarantee if I'm on the train in certain areas certain people wont sit beside me hahaha

To be fair it is not the same.

Well yes it is, it is still the avoidance of a person of a specific skin tone.

However in this specific case there is a small amount of potential logic to their reasoning, even though it is highly uneducated.

Fear of a virus is blinding peoples already poor judgement. Ignoring the ability to do research, if somebody would usually have zero problem sitting next to somebody of Chinese decent but suddenly stops doing so because of their fear of this virus it is from an uneducated fear of the virus.

I'm not excusing the uneducated response people are having because it is hurtful regardless, but it is from a basis of fear of the virus, not hate for Chinese decent (though for some it is a convenient combo).

"

Ah yeah I get what you mean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back. "

Love a filter comment like this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this "

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Tom.

Where was this reported please ?

Where was it reported that people refused to sit next to people of Chinese appearance ?

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters

For me it inevitable unfortunately.

For example today on the tube I just cleared my throat and the lady next to me walked halfway down the carriage. Very nice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't "
deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"For me it inevitable unfortunately.

For example today on the tube I just cleared my throat and the lady next to me walked halfway down the carriage. Very nice"

And did she say why ? Or did you just infer what she did it for ? Because unless she said why, there is NO WAY that you know why.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift"

To be fair it has killed 560 people so far

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters


"For me it inevitable unfortunately.

For example today on the tube I just cleared my throat and the lady next to me walked halfway down the carriage. Very nice

And did she say why ? Or did you just infer what she did it for ? Because unless she said why, there is NO WAY that you know why.

"

When that look on her face says it all there is no need to ask. But what can I do unfortunately some people like this it’s not gonna stop me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what does it matter,

next there will be thought control so you get pulled up with what you are thinking

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"For me it inevitable unfortunately.

For example today on the tube I just cleared my throat and the lady next to me walked halfway down the carriage. Very nice

And did she say why ? Or did you just infer what she did it for ? Because unless she said why, there is NO WAY that you know why.

When that look on her face says it all there is no need to ask. But what can I do unfortunately some people like this it’s not gonna stop me"

So you don't know why she walked further down the train.

Thanks.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"what does it matter,

next there will be thought control so you get pulled up with what you are thinking"

Oi...... I just saw what you never said or did !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For me it inevitable unfortunately.

For example today on the tube I just cleared my throat and the lady next to me walked halfway down the carriage. Very nice

And did she say why ? Or did you just infer what she did it for ? Because unless she said why, there is NO WAY that you know why.

When that look on her face says it all there is no need to ask. But what can I do unfortunately some people like this it’s not gonna stop me

So you don't know why she walked further down the train.

Thanks. "
old people are sensitive to illness more chance of catching death so if that was the reason i can see why but even the radio is banging out health warnings ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift"

I would be worried if Pavarotti farted in a lift. He's been dead for 13 years. Zombie farts can kill!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift

To be fair it has killed 560 people so far "
in a in a city with 11.8 million people not including tourists plus a few other cases splatered around the country and world but in reality its small fry in the list of viruses its just new is all like bird and pig flu before them also been relatively well contained

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift

I would be worried if Pavarotti farted in a lift. He's been dead for 13 years. Zombie farts can kill!"
thats the point coffin gas

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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I would rather better safe than sorry. Don’t wait until it can’t be contained to then try and contain it. Approach it as though it’s a major threat and nip it in the bud. It’s all very well saying don’t panic but it has started to spread quickly now, give it a few weeks of people travelling, half term holidays etc and it could be a very different story.

Any time someone sneezes or coughs near me I move away and I always have. You should see what I do at the docs I don’t care where you are from, if you have germs I don’t want you near me.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift

To be fair it has killed 560 people so far in a in a city with 11.8 million people not including tourists plus a few other cases splatered around the country and world but in reality its small fry in the list of viruses its just new is all like bird and pig flu before them also been relatively well contained "

Yep absolutely. It's tiny numbers in the great scheme of things but like the other examples you've given it's the containment that stops these things becoming an epidemic, which is a strong possibility otherwise.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift

To be fair it has killed 560 people so far in a in a city with 11.8 million people not including tourists plus a few other cases splatered around the country and world but in reality its small fry in the list of viruses its just new is all like bird and pig flu before them also been relatively well contained "

Exactly. Especially when you compare it to how many infected too. The virus itself is not an issue, it is less deadly than the flu. The fact of how contagious it is, is the issue. How easily it is to pass it on to the elderly, the young, and those with weakened immune systems is what the concern is about (also just large numbers of people getting ill at the same time would cripple so many systems and industries etc).

The death toll of the virus is minimal concern. The media use the death toll to grab attention is all.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"I would rather better safe than sorry. Don’t wait until it can’t be contained to then try and contain it. Approach it as though it’s a major threat and nip it in the bud. It’s all very well saying don’t panic but it has started to spread quickly now, give it a few weeks of people travelling, half term holidays etc and it could be a very different story.

Any time someone sneezes or coughs near me I move away and I always have. You should see what I do at the docs I don’t care where you are from, if you have germs I don’t want you near me. "

The overall issue though, is that people (Chinese) showing no signs of symptoms are being avoided and looked down upon. The assumption they have the virus because they are Chinese, when in fact it is almost just as likely anyone could be infected at this point, race has nothing to do with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not racism more xenophobia based on an irrational fear of contagion.

If the child was being discriminated against prior to the outbreak of the virus, then it would be racism. He is actually being discriminated against due to the (irrational) fear that he may be carrying a virus. A virus which if you watch news from China, actually looks terrifying.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

To the people who are blasé.

You will moan that central government did little to save you or your family..

Wake up people.. this is serious and even if contained another virus is coming for us.. rem_mber.. WW1 killed 18 million and Spanish Flu 50 million.. and it was the young not the old who mainly died

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I would rather better safe than sorry. Don’t wait until it can’t be contained to then try and contain it. Approach it as though it’s a major threat and nip it in the bud. It’s all very well saying don’t panic but it has started to spread quickly now, give it a few weeks of people travelling, half term holidays etc and it could be a very different story.

Any time someone sneezes or coughs near me I move away and I always have. You should see what I do at the docs I don’t care where you are from, if you have germs I don’t want you near me.

The overall issue though, is that people (Chinese) showing no signs of symptoms are being avoided and looked down upon. The assumption they have the virus because they are Chinese, when in fact it is almost just as likely anyone could be infected at this point, race has nothing to do with it. "

Not race but location.. China is the epi centre.. that's why China Town sales down 20%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't call it racism.

I would call it over reacting, people will be thinking that someone of chinese appearance has a higher percentage of coming into contact with someone who has recently been to china. Like all viruses it is infectious before symptoms appear.

I see it as no difference to people not travelling to salisbury after the poisonings. People wernt being anti salisbarians (ok i dont know what the local populace are known as)

Personally it wouldnt stop me from sitting next to or talking to a chinese person

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I would rather better safe than sorry. Don’t wait until it can’t be contained to then try and contain it. Approach it as though it’s a major threat and nip it in the bud. It’s all very well saying don’t panic but it has started to spread quickly now, give it a few weeks of people travelling, half term holidays etc and it could be a very different story.

Any time someone sneezes or coughs near me I move away and I always have. You should see what I do at the docs I don’t care where you are from, if you have germs I don’t want you near me.

The overall issue though, is that people (Chinese) showing no signs of symptoms are being avoided and looked down upon. The assumption they have the virus because they are Chinese, when in fact it is almost just as likely anyone could be infected at this point, race has nothing to do with it. "

There is a 14 day incubation period.. a person may look healthy but be contagious

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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"I would rather better safe than sorry. Don’t wait until it can’t be contained to then try and contain it. Approach it as though it’s a major threat and nip it in the bud. It’s all very well saying don’t panic but it has started to spread quickly now, give it a few weeks of people travelling, half term holidays etc and it could be a very different story.

Any time someone sneezes or coughs near me I move away and I always have. You should see what I do at the docs I don’t care where you are from, if you have germs I don’t want you near me.

The overall issue though, is that people (Chinese) showing no signs of symptoms are being avoided and looked down upon. The assumption they have the virus because they are Chinese, when in fact it is almost just as likely anyone could be infected at this point, race has nothing to do with it. "

I didn’t say race has anything to do with it. The fact is though it has come from China and, take for instance a university, lots of students are now back on campus after their Christmas break. If I was in that situation I would be nervous, no doubt. They can’t help being chinese any more than they can help it starting in China but facts are facts and people are nervous. Being cautious does not mean looking down on someone.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I would rather better safe than sorry. Don’t wait until it can’t be contained to then try and contain it. Approach it as though it’s a major threat and nip it in the bud. It’s all very well saying don’t panic but it has started to spread quickly now, give it a few weeks of people travelling, half term holidays etc and it could be a very different story.

Any time someone sneezes or coughs near me I move away and I always have. You should see what I do at the docs I don’t care where you are from, if you have germs I don’t want you near me.

The overall issue though, is that people (Chinese) showing no signs of symptoms are being avoided and looked down upon. The assumption they have the virus because they are Chinese, when in fact it is almost just as likely anyone could be infected at this point, race has nothing to do with it.

I didn’t say race has anything to do with it. The fact is though it has come from China and, take for instance a university, lots of students are now back on campus after their Christmas break. If I was in that situation I would be nervous, no doubt. They can’t help being chinese any more than they can help it starting in China but facts are facts and people are nervous. Being cautious does not mean looking down on someone. "

I agree... And the zealots are most at risk in my opinion..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That racism DOES NOT EXIST, it's a fantasy mostly of white people that want to see racism everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Send the buggers back.

Love a filter comment like this

And I love bleeding heart liberals who would rather contract a deadly virus than be called a racist.

Oh wait, I don't deadly virus no more deadly that pavarotti farting in a lift

I would be worried if Pavarotti farted in a lift. He's been dead for 13 years. Zombie farts can kill!thats the point coffin gas "

mmmmmmmmmmmmm - fragrant

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The people who scream racism and don't see the danger are those who skate on thin ice on ponds and disappear into icy water or walk on the prom in a gale and are swept into the sea..

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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If you’re middle aged and look like you have recently come back from Singapore oh and live in Brighton, watch out for people swerving you in the supermarket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Essex Tom, you seem to be very worried. I have the feeling you get worried about getting out of bed each day. Relax, just breath. There's a good chap

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I do worry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest, I wouldn't sit next to anyone coughing and sneezing on the underground, no matter what their ethnicity. Regular use of alcohol hand gel and/or washing your hands whenever possible is the way to go.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Swathes of Englanders could soon be wiped out but it's ok to some as long as it's not racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swathes of Englanders could soon be wiped out but it's ok to some as long as it's not racist "

Just treat everyone as if they're contagious and you can't be accused of discrimination.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's not racist to avoid a carrier, whatever the nationality ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not racist to avoid a carrier, whatever the nationality .."

No, it isn't - as long as you're not a dick about it

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It's not racist to avoid a carrier, whatever the nationality ..

No, it isn't - as long as you're not a dick about it "

Better to be a dick than a dead dick

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"It's not racist to avoid a carrier, whatever the nationality .."

How do you know who is a carrier

Should they have a big white cross on their back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not racist to avoid a carrier, whatever the nationality ..

No, it isn't - as long as you're not a dick about it

Better to be a dick than a dead dick"

Indeed. I mean if you are sitting on the underground train and somebody sits next to you and starts coughing, you don't have to jump up flailing your arms in the air and run off down the carriage screaming "we're doomed, we're doomed". Just take a long exhale, stand and move further down the carriage. If others think you a racist for doing this, then that's their problem.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

People assess risk differently..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It's not racist to avoid a carrier, whatever the nationality ..

No, it isn't - as long as you're not a dick about it

Better to be a dick than a dead dick

Indeed. I mean if you are sitting on the underground train and somebody sits next to you and starts coughing, you don't have to jump up flailing your arms in the air and run off down the carriage screaming "we're doomed, we're doomed". Just take a long exhale, stand and move further down the carriage. If others think you a racist for doing this, then that's their problem."

I agree.. it's about risk not about risk.. if it hits London they will likely close the tube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not race but location.. China is the epi centre.. that's why China Town sales down 20%"

Unless China Town is actually in China, I don't see what the panic is about.

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