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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism"

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I'm devastated about this news.... it's a sad day for me x

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By *inky Biscuit DunkerMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I've got a (hybrid plug-in)electric vehicle. I'd be amazed if they go through with this. They would need to spend millions improving & expanding the charging infrastructure.

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

I’ll more than likely be dead by then so it don’t worry me .. but thinking into the future, what will they do with all the spent batteries? They’ll ban electric cars next .. tree huggers taking over the world with the vegans

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I will have clocked up over half a million miles by then (driving only) not including flights

Glad im age an age that I have travelled well globally and still enjoy travelling (Tourism) of the UK

The true problem is over population of humans, yet the governments of the World are frightened to mention it

Glad to be born in the 60's, teenage years of the 70's and watch the World grow crazier with every year that passes.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I wouldn't mind but electric cars seem to be less long living than a normal engine. Still most dont have the capacity to do proper driving and they are silent and boring.. unless you can afford a model s... not fun...

How are they going to charge all these cars.... and if everyone is plugging a car in.. we will be using more electric and therefore still adding pollution.

I best start stock piling petrol cars now x

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By *lap.n.tickleCouple
over a year ago

sunny Manchester :)

Not a fucking chance. You really think this government or any other give 2 shiny 1s about the investment. No way are they going to spend zillions replacing every government vehicle. It's bullshit and thank fuck it is. I'm never parting with any of my cars or bikes. Up the revaluation stamp on the useless wankers !!!!

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By *lap.n.tickleCouple
over a year ago

sunny Manchester :)


"I wouldn't mind but electric cars seem to be less long living than a normal engine. Still most dont have the capacity to do proper driving and they are silent and boring.. unless you can afford a model s... not fun...

How are they going to charge all these cars.... and if everyone is plugging a car in.. we will be using more electric and therefore still adding pollution.

I best start stock piling petrol cars now x "

Where have you been all my life. A petrol head lady. I gotta get myself 1. Just don't tell Gerry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ll more than likely be dead by then so it don’t worry me .."

Which is how we landed up in this mess in the first place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they are rushing at this.

Have they really thought about the effects of everyone having an electric car. The lifespan of the batteries, how are the batteries are made and then disposed off. Are we going to have mountains of used batteries in years to come, which will then be a problem.

Are we all going to charge all these electric cars, do we have the infrastructure for that.

I'm not against electric cars but has it been properly thought through?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meaningless drivel.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

still time to enjoy my

MV Agusta F4

MV Agusta Dragster

Hilux

and Toyota C-HR

will have to enjoy much more miles on each

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Time to get some nice v engines cars... before they get expensive and save to buy something nice a few years before the ban date x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it will mever happen, unless millions, if not more are spent, how would you do a 2000 mile trip in an ev?

until you can charge it in 10 mins or less than it will never take off, a change needs to ha[[en, but evs arent the answer. weve had evs dof as long as i can remember, and im nearly 50, if they were the answer it would have happened by now, what we need is a differant fuel, but none have really proved themselves yet

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By *aastyKnixWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

At the moment I'm in Bangkok where the pollution is so bad,I'm coughing like a 50 per day smoker. The traffic is just unbelievable, and all of it petrol or diesel cars,motorbikes,buses,trucks and tuk tuks. This is not even the worst city in the world for pollution, that honor currently goes to New Delhi.

Unless every country,every city,every driver in the world can be persuaded to go green, it seems unlikely to me that Britain going all electric,using only wind and wave power,will make the slightest bit of difference worldwide.

Electric vehicles are not the panacea some seem to think they are. A step in the right direction, maybe but too little, too late.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a sales ban not a ban on the roads. All my vehicles are v8 engined... all have a cheeky tacky 'fuck you greta' sticker on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The batteries don't last, where they going to put them when they unusable? I travel 200,km a day to and from work. There are 2 charge points in the town I work in and they both a 20min walk from my workplace.

There are 6 ships currently in the ocean which burn more fuel than all the vehicles currently on the roads in the world. Again it's hit the small people in the pocket never mind the big factories etc.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Its a sales ban not a ban on the roads. All my vehicles are v8 engined... all have a cheeky tacky 'fuck you greta' sticker on "

No problem with your choice of car, but pretty childish having and mentioning the sticker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its a sales ban not a ban on the roads. All my vehicles are v8 engined... all have a cheeky tacky 'fuck you greta' sticker on

No problem with your choice of car, but pretty childish having and mentioning the sticker "

Melts everywhere

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years"
but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Its a sales ban not a ban on the roads. All my vehicles are v8 engined... all have a cheeky tacky 'fuck you greta' sticker on "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc "

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just read about this WOW!

Cant see that happening for you guys.

Those tree huggers as you call them need to go live in any country that is exploited for the materials that are used for Lithium batteries, the devastation is horrifying, and pollution last for years.

If they mined that stuff in the UK it would be a different story I am sure.

Out of sight out of mind!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort "

On a nice set of cams, carbs and a ashley competition exhaust

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort "
they sound lovely but.... I like the sound of all the old group b really cars...

I will be holding a vigil if this ever happens to mourn all the new beautiful cars never to drive the Roads. The noise of a good engine is half the reason I buy a car..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort they sound lovely but.... I like the sound of all the old group b really cars...

I will be holding a vigil if this ever happens to mourn all the new beautiful cars never to drive the Roads. The noise of a good engine is half the reason I buy a car.. "

We will all be hiding the cars and meeting at night lol

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort

On a nice set of cams, carbs and a ashley competition exhaust "

I had an Ashley system on my lotus engined metro never had the pleasure of a mk2 to own... just a few later rs2000's

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"The batteries don't last, where they going to put them when they unusable? I travel 200,km a day to and from work. There are 2 charge points in the town I work in and they both a 20min walk from my workplace.

There are 6 ships currently in the ocean which burn more fuel than all the vehicles currently on the roads in the world. Again it's hit the small people in the pocket never mind the big factories etc. "

Fair point on the batteries, but your point about the ships could do with a bit more explanation. Ships in general are huge polluters, but I’m not sure just 6 are

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By *radleywigginsMan
over a year ago

northwest

Hydrogen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort

On a nice set of cams, carbs and a ashley competition exhaust

I had an Ashley system on my lotus engined metro never had the pleasure of a mk2 to own... just a few later rs2000's"

They sound amazing dont they.. id like to hear more about that metro!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"The 'ban' that was introduced for 2040 by Theresa May's government only applied to new vehicle sales. Boris has simply brought it forward by 5 years.

He is not (currently) planning on banning petrol and diesel cars from the roads, so those of us who don't buy new can enjoy choking the planet for a few more years but thats what I mean. No more new cars..which means older ones will rocket in price. I dont want a crappy electric car... for a start they arent even better for the wider environment. It's just a ploy...

I know it's only a ban on new cars but that means no more nice new cars with gorgeous sounding engines etc

Can't beat the sound of a mark 2 escort they sound lovely but.... I like the sound of all the old group b really cars...

I will be holding a vigil if this ever happens to mourn all the new beautiful cars never to drive the Roads. The noise of a good engine is half the reason I buy a car..

We will all be hiding the cars and meeting at night lol"
we will..

I had someone moaning at me the other day for me having 2 gas guzzlers.. I pointed out that I was only capable of driving one at a time x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The batteries don't last, where they going to put them when they unusable? I travel 200,km a day to and from work. There are 2 charge points in the town I work in and they both a 20min walk from my workplace.

There are 6 ships currently in the ocean which burn more fuel than all the vehicles currently on the roads in the world. Again it's hit the small people in the pocket never mind the big factories etc.

Fair point on the batteries, but your point about the ships could do with a bit more explanation. Ships in general are huge polluters, but I’m not sure just 6 are "

Seems to be different numbers online more than 6 actually.

Has been estimated that just one of these container ships, the length of around six football pitches, can produce the same amount of pollution as 50 million cars. The emissions from 15 of these mega-ships match those from all the cars in the world. And if the shipping industry were a country, it would be ranked between Germany and Japan as the sixth-largest contributor to global CO2 emissions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Need a system like in France for big cities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunatly boys and girls i think this will happen. Your all thinking about todays tecknology and at the moment no we wont be able to charge enough cars. But electric cars have only been here about 8 years. Give it investment and time and things will get better. So sorry but yes its possible.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

You could probably reduce pollution massively by making sure all existing vehicles are serviced and tuned properly.

Owners of older vehicles are likely to skimp on maintenance, owing to the cost. Give those people a voucher, redeemable at a DECENT garage to get the servicing done.

And this applies to public transport well - I disappeared in a cloud of black diesel fumes following a local bus staggering up a not very steep hill at 18mph late last year

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

The other thing to consider is this:does anyone REALLY think the government will give up the revenue off fuel sales?

Tax, duty and then VAT on the tax?

We'll all be paying a hell of a lot lore in direct tax, that's for damn sure

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By *ora 123Man
over a year ago

Basildon

How ridiculous. This hasn’t been thought about at all.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Unfortunatly boys and girls i think this will happen. Your all thinking about todays tecknology and at the moment no we wont be able to charge enough cars. But electric cars have only been here about 8 years. Give it investment and time and things will get better. So sorry but yes its possible."
I dont think it will though. The national grid is already struggling apparently and we are being asked to reduce our load on it. So how does forcing people to have electric cars help that x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind but electric cars seem to be less long living than a normal engine. Still most dont have the capacity to do proper driving and they are silent and boring.. unless you can afford a model s... not fun...

How are they going to charge all these cars.... and if everyone is plugging a car in.. we will be using more electric and therefore still adding pollution.

I best start stock piling petrol cars now x "

It's an electric car, it can play any engine noise you like. Mine will have Rolls Royce Merlin and Olympus

options....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism""
definitely but why not baby flying to start with

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

As long as I'm able to I'll still be driving an old Jag up to and after the ban as I'll have no interest in buying a new Electric one then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism""

It’s not sustainable - where’s all the power going to come from for all these electric vehicles?

Hybridised engines are very good. Petrol engines can be waaaayyy more efficient than currently made. Diesel isn’t also as bad and dirty as people think.

How on earth people think the infrastructure for all electric will be there in 15 years, I don’t know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anyone tell me how the government will make up the cash shortfall due to loss of revenue from oil companies petroleum tax, fuel excise duty, VAT. Tax is going to have to rise elsewhere

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I wouldn't mind but electric cars seem to be less long living than a normal engine. Still most dont have the capacity to do proper driving and they are silent and boring.. unless you can afford a model s... not fun...

How are they going to charge all these cars.... and if everyone is plugging a car in.. we will be using more electric and therefore still adding pollution.

I best start stock piling petrol cars now x

It's an electric car, it can play any engine noise you like. Mine will have Rolls Royce Merlin and Olympus

options.... "
hardly comparable to proper engine noise x

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By *ristol HellfireMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Can anyone tell me how the government will make up the cash shortfall due to loss of revenue from oil companies petroleum tax, fuel excise duty, VAT. Tax is going to have to rise elsewhere"

Anticipate predatory rates for road pricing, congestion charging and parking (see Smeed 1964 and Alistair Darling 2005).

It will be interesting to see how electric vehicle technology can be applied to heavy goods vehicles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bicycles. We'll all be riding bicycles!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem is people are blinded by what they are told by the media. If they looked further they would discover,although electric and hybrid cars are cleaner in use they actually do more damage in production,than a normal petrol or diesel car in a 25 year life cycle.

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By *uffymayfairCouple
over a year ago

vera playa, Almeria

Think I'm gonna try and find an old diesel that can run on veggie oil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the cost of replacing battery cells is rediculous.

you can buy a 5 yr old renault zoe for 3k then need to spend £6k replacing 1 cell of the 12 it has

so the car goes on the scrapper and we use how much fuel creating a new one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just wondering when we have to go back to living in caves and wearing woad

This should have a similar effect on the global economy.

Btw I have no objection to reducing carbon emissions but read recently about a man driving from York to London in an electric vehicle. With all the recharging stops it took him 2 weeks.

The stagecoach was quicker back in the days of Dick Turpin!

Poor bloody horses....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will have clocked up over half a million miles by then (driving only) not including flights

Glad im age an age that I have travelled well globally and still enjoy travelling (Tourism) of the UK

The true problem is over population of humans, yet the governments of the World are frightened to mention it

Glad to be born in the 60's, teenage years of the 70's and watch the World grow crazier with every year that passes.

"
electric cars/vans can do 290 miles on a charge nothing will end in 2035

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just stick with my st200 mondeo 2.5 24v v6 thanks we got an all electric van at work 75 mile range cant use the heater or radio as charge drops rapidly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just stick with my st200 mondeo 2.5 24v v6 thanks we got an all electric van at work 75 mile range cant use the heater or radio as charge drops rapidly"
ahhh but by 2035 the technology will be so advanced a trade vehicle will do 400 miles and be self charging, vehicles over 1.1cc will be extinct long live public transport viva la loca

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

The cars will evolve, the infrastructure to support them will evolve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just wondering when we have to go back to living in caves and wearing woad

This should have a similar effect on the global economy.

Btw I have no objection to reducing carbon emissions but read recently about a man driving from York to London in an electric vehicle. With all the recharging stops it took him 2 weeks.

The stagecoach was quicker back in the days of Dick Turpin!

Poor bloody horses....

"

I watched an online test by Carwow recently where they drove about half a dozen of the current crop of ev's from just outside London, north on a single charge until their batteries died. Even the poorest of them managed 196 miles before it died, and the Tesla made it as far as Newcastle, which is 270 miles.

The distance from the start of the M1 in London, to York, is 202 miles, so all bar one of them would have made the journey in a single charge, and even the Merc that didn't would have reached the outskirts.

I'm not taking sides here, but deliberately exaggerating the range deficiencies of current electric vehicles is a rather futile gesture and there are another fifteen years of development before the government deadline.

I'm more concerned with the policy of forcing private cars off the road, and in particular, poorer drivers and families, than I am about the death of the IC engine, because that will happen eventually anyway. It's called progress and you can't stand in it's way. Remember CRT's anyone?

Here's a link to the video if anyone wants to watch it for themselves.

https://youtu.be/ZH7V2tU3iFc

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I'm just wondering when we have to go back to living in caves and wearing woad

This should have a similar effect on the global economy.

Btw I have no objection to reducing carbon emissions but read recently about a man driving from York to London in an electric vehicle. With all the recharging stops it took him 2 weeks.

The stagecoach was quicker back in the days of Dick Turpin!

Poor bloody horses....

I watched an online test by Carwow recently where they drove about half a dozen of the current crop of ev's from just outside London, north on a single charge until their batteries died. Even the poorest of them managed 196 miles before it died, and the Tesla made it as far as Newcastle, which is 270 miles.

The distance from the start of the M1 in London, to York, is 202 miles, so all bar one of them would have made the journey in a single charge, and even the Merc that didn't would have reached the outskirts.

I'm not taking sides here, but deliberately exaggerating the range deficiencies of current electric vehicles is a rather futile gesture and there are another fifteen years of development before the government deadline.

I'm more concerned with the policy of forcing private cars off the road, and in particular, poorer drivers and families, than I am about the death of the IC engine, because that will happen eventually anyway. It's called progress and you can't stand in it's way. Remember CRT's anyone?

Here's a link to the video if anyone wants to watch it for themselves.

https://youtu.be/ZH7V2tU3iFc"
it's fine till you have to use things like foglights.. heaters etc oh and traffic.... I regularly drive way over that in each direction and dont want to have to stop.

I'll keep my petrol car till they pry it from my cold dead hands.

The other thing for me is that how electric cars are only better for the immediate environment. There carbon footprint will be higher than a 15 year old petrol car..

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"the cost of replacing battery cells is rediculous.

you can buy a 5 yr old renault zoe for 3k then need to spend £6k replacing 1 cell of the 12 it has

so the car goes on the scrapper and we use how much fuel creating a new one?"
my point exactly.. yet I'm looking at a clio sport 172 .. and its much much older and therefore less of a strain x

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"it's fine till you have to use things like foglights.. heaters etc oh and traffic.... I regularly drive way over that in each direction and dont want to have to stop.

I'll keep my petrol car till they pry it from my cold dead hands.

The other thing for me is that how electric cars are only better for the immediate environment. There carbon footprint will be higher than a 15 year old petrol car.."

But that's all based on today's logic and technology, not 15 years. LED foglights are fine, pretty low power, And other technologies will absolutely keep improving.

You can keep your petrol car, of course you can. You won't have any fuel for it, but you can certainly keep it...

And anyway the fewer prats driving with foglights on as soon as there's a little mist the better!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So.…..

How will the compensate 32million who own cars?

.

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every single car owner will need to be compensated

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you really think this will work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So much melodrama its only new combustion engined cars you won't be able to buy most of the last year of production will go on till 2045 and maybe much longer. There will still be combustion engine cars on the road in 2050 onwards and most on here will be using mobility scooters by then anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm just wondering when we have to go back to living in caves and wearing woad

This should have a similar effect on the global economy.

Btw I have no objection to reducing carbon emissions but read recently about a man driving from York to London in an electric vehicle. With all the recharging stops it took him 2 weeks.

The stagecoach was quicker back in the days of Dick Turpin!

Poor bloody horses....

I watched an online test by Carwow recently where they drove about half a dozen of the current crop of ev's from just outside London, north on a single charge until their batteries died. Even the poorest of them managed 196 miles before it died, and the Tesla made it as far as Newcastle, which is 270 miles.

The distance from the start of the M1 in London, to York, is 202 miles, so all bar one of them would have made the journey in a single charge, and even the Merc that didn't would have reached the outskirts.

I'm not taking sides here, but deliberately exaggerating the range deficiencies of current electric vehicles is a rather futile gesture and there are another fifteen years of development before the government deadline.

I'm more concerned with the policy of forcing private cars off the road, and in particular, poorer drivers and families, than I am about the death of the IC engine, because that will happen eventually anyway. It's called progress and you can't stand in it's way. Remember CRT's anyone?

Here's a link to the video if anyone wants to watch it for themselves.

https://youtu.be/ZH7V2tU3iFc it's fine till you have to use things like foglights.. heaters etc oh and traffic.... I regularly drive way over that in each direction and dont want to have to stop.

I'll keep my petrol car till they pry it from my cold dead hands.

"

I don't really care what you do do be honest, I'm only trying to give a balanced opinion.

Btw, I've owned dozens of cars since I was seventeen and I'm a bit of a petrol head myself, but rather like the Luddite's, you can't stand in the way of progress and the internal combustion engines time is almost up.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"So.…..

How will the compensate 32million who own cars?

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every single car owner will need to be compensated

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you really think this will work"

Looks like you haven't actually paid any attention to the story ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another 15 years or so of banging it off the limiter every given moment. It's all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I very much doubt it will actually happen in 15 years, I suspect the government will kick that can down the road as we get closer to the dead line.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism""

No.

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By *eesideMan
over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism""

What about diesel engine locomotives / trains ?

Will thay get band to ?

Serious question.

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By *uffnsmovCouple
over a year ago

Leeds/Wakefield

Just more Government sound bites. It won't happen simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just more Government sound bites. It won't happen simple."

Agreed

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Just more Government sound bites. It won't happen simple."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism""

Only on new cars. They will miss the target. It’s a good sound bite for the upcoming conference for BawJaws.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just more Government sound bites. It won't happen simple."

I think it's more down to economics than the government. The big carmakers are now heavily investing in EV's and if they become cheap enough and range efficient enough then more and more people will buy them voluntarily.

The charging infrastructure is woeful at the moment, but it will improve as more people invest in Ev's, so unless something radical comes along in the meantime, I think EV's will be far outselling ICE cars by the deadline anyway.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"it's fine till you have to use things like foglights.. heaters etc oh and traffic.... I regularly drive way over that in each direction and dont want to have to stop.

I'll keep my petrol car till they pry it from my cold dead hands.

The other thing for me is that how electric cars are only better for the immediate environment. There carbon footprint will be higher than a 15 year old petrol car..

But that's all based on today's logic and technology, not 15 years. LED foglights are fine, pretty low power, And other technologies will absolutely keep improving.

You can keep your petrol car, of course you can. You won't have any fuel for it, but you can certainly keep it...

And anyway the fewer prats driving with foglights on as soon as there's a little mist the better!"
even at the rate of increasing consumption they estimate petrol being available till 2080 although by then it will be in decline...

So I think I'll be okay for fuel... and I agree about people not using fog lights appropriately.. however I'm not one of them.

I dont even have an option of electric or even hybrid with my current car choice. They don't make them at all.. although introducing a hybrid SUV next year.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"it's fine till you have to use things like foglights.. heaters etc oh and traffic.... I regularly drive way over that in each direction and dont want to have to stop.

I'll keep my petrol car till they pry it from my cold dead hands.

The other thing for me is that how electric cars are only better for the immediate environment. There carbon footprint will be higher than a 15 year old petrol car..

But that's all based on today's logic and technology, not 15 years. LED foglights are fine, pretty low power, And other technologies will absolutely keep improving.

You can keep your petrol car, of course you can. You won't have any fuel for it, but you can certainly keep it...

And anyway the fewer prats driving with foglights on as soon as there's a little mist the better! even at the rate of increasing consumption they estimate petrol being available till 2080 although by then it will be in decline...

So I think I'll be okay for fuel... and I agree about people not using fog lights appropriately.. however I'm not one of them.

I dont even have an option of electric or even hybrid with my current car choice. They don't make them at all.. although introducing a hybrid SUV next year. "

Whats your car choice

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'll be dead.

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By *radleywigginsMan
over a year ago

northwest


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars

will this be "The end of Tourism""

The end of tourism is more likely to be either flight-shaming or coronavirus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm all for it. We have to change what we do or suffer the consequences that could be quite dire.

Industry will innovate rapidly with deadlines like this. And yes, and we have to change our travel/tourism habits too.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If we want a future world that is hospitable to as much as possible of the varieties of life on it, including our species, then we have to be prepared to take rapid and major adjustments to our lifestyles. Humans have caused most of the global heating that has affected climate, so it's reasonable for us to make the adjustments that are needed to help to remedy this and mitigate its effects on the rest of the world.

Changing our dependence upon fossil fuels is essential, due to its significant contribution to global heating. Each state will be required to implement changes within it, to help to contribute towards fossil fuel use reduction.

Whilst some mention a lack of charging facilities, there are currently many petrol/diesel retailers who will presumably want to increase their income from charging facility income. As demand grows, it will certainly trigger greater charging opportunities, otherwise people won't buy these vehicles, until forced to. Greater production volumes should also help to reduce price levels, helping them to become more competitive.

It's a good move, particularly if the government ensures other appropriate changes are made too. As it stands, the Glasgow hosted UN Climate Summit, later this year, just lost its government appointed Chair and the government doesn't seem particularly strong on green policy actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't mind but electric cars seem to be less long living than a normal engine. Still most dont have the capacity to do proper driving and they are silent and boring.. unless you can afford a model s... not fun...

How are they going to charge all these cars.... and if everyone is plugging a car in.. we will be using more electric and therefore still adding pollution.

I best start stock piling petrol cars now x

It's an electric car, it can play any engine noise you like. Mine will have Rolls Royce Merlin and Olympus

options.... hardly comparable to proper engine noise x "

Merlin and Olympus not proper engines?.. ...Don't make me come over there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll be dead. "

Can I have your car?..

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

heres a taste of whats coming back for public transport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46QUXfghQZk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d have an electric company car except the government hasn’t made it clear on taxation rules regarding charging it at home etc hence why a lot of companies haven’t converted

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By *icksfocusMan
over a year ago

Pontefract

So a home car charging installation cours is £365 for a 4 day installation course, plus the 4 days off work (self employed) mind you the more home charging points I install would off set my carbon footprint against my 4 motorbikes. And two of those are two strokes

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By *emma HoldenTV/TS
over a year ago

Ramsey


"Hydrogen? "

Exactly. Hydrogen fuel cells are existed to improve & become cheaper quite quickly & are the only viable solution. We will all rush to battery cars only to find them superceded very quickly & valueless. There is no way if successful scrapping battery cars at end of life so they lie dumped unable to be recycled. It's a massive con.

All our old stuff is scrapped now. Most of it is shipped out of the country on giant ships that bring in our new cars. They are simply exported to Asia & Africa & keep running while we pay thru the nose. The uk government won't pay out billions on charging points for them to fall out of use when hydrogen takes over.

An electric coach with 50 passengers & luggage cannot climb the french alps. A weeks holiday on the south coast leaving from Manchester will turn into a 3 day epic trying to find vacant charging points & planning it all out. Nice idea in theory but it's all utter bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the moment I'm in Bangkok where the pollution is so bad,I'm coughing like a 50 per day smoker. The traffic is just unbelievable, and all of it petrol or diesel cars,motorbikes,buses,trucks and tuk tuks. This is not even the worst city in the world for pollution, that honor currently goes to New Delhi.

Unless every country,every city,every driver in the world can be persuaded to go green, it seems unlikely to me that Britain going all electric,using only wind and wave power,will make the slightest bit of difference worldwide.

Electric vehicles are not the panacea some seem to think they are. A step in the right direction, maybe but too little, too late.

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ive been to delhi, worked there for a while, i agree the cars etc are a problem, but by far the worst offenders are industry, untill that changes, then sropping cars using fossal fuels is just a plaster on a severed leg

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Petrol and diesel vehicle ban brought forward to 2035 including Hybrid Cars will this be "The end of Tourism""

The so called "ban" is on the sale of these vehicles. Nothing to stop you owning one and continuing to operate a petrol/diesel vehicle. I currently own a 12 year old vehicle which will probably last for another 12 years.

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