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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop " this is the real answer, gender has nothing to do with you being a bad person when you hit someone | |||
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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop " This, regardless of who they are. Far too many of us have injuries or scars to prove this should never happen to anyone ![]() | |||
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"Should that sexist phrase not be "It's never ok to hit a partner"? Or is it wrong altogether, as in there are some situations where hitting a partner, regardless of gender, is ok? ie self defence? Or does having a vagina qualify somebody as special and immune to any wrongdoing that could possibly justify a hit? Is sexism ok against men?" Selef defense is the use of equal or reasonable force but even in that situation I'd not hit anyone, violence is never the answer regardless of the situation. | |||
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"Violence is violence regardless of gender. Though I think this kind of sexism happens from when children are little. Where boys will be boys if they end up fighting, but if they fight with a girl all hell breaks loose. In my opinion they are both equally as bad and should be punished in the same way. We're heading in the right direction, I think men are more likely to talk about abuse these days compared to my father's generation. Still a long way to way to go, until we stop labelling each other and treating each other as equals." Why am I the one who goes to the bar and get the drinks if we're equal ![]() | |||
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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop this is the real answer, gender has nothing to do with you being a bad person when you hit someone" ![]() | |||
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"Violence is violence regardless of gender. Though I think this kind of sexism happens from when children are little. Where boys will be boys if they end up fighting, but if they fight with a girl all hell breaks loose. In my opinion they are both equally as bad and should be punished in the same way. We're heading in the right direction, I think men are more likely to talk about abuse these days compared to my father's generation. Still a long way to way to go, until we stop labelling each other and treating each other as equals. Why am I the one who goes to the bar and get the drinks if we're equal ![]() Clearly dating the wrong kind of people | |||
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"Violence is violence regardless of gender. Though I think this kind of sexism happens from when children are little. Where boys will be boys if they end up fighting, but if they fight with a girl all hell breaks loose. In my opinion they are both equally as bad and should be punished in the same way. We're heading in the right direction, I think men are more likely to talk about abuse these days compared to my father's generation. Still a long way to way to go, until we stop labelling each other and treating each other as equals. Why am I the one who goes to the bar and get the drinks if we're equal ![]() Height and chivalry. Plus it's nice to be nice and have you ever stood at a bar in high heels? That makes your feet hurt ![]() | |||
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"It's never ok to hit anyone??" Self defence only in my book if there is no other option but that's it. | |||
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"Violence is violence regardless of gender. Though I think this kind of sexism happens from when children are little. Where boys will be boys if they end up fighting, but if they fight with a girl all hell breaks loose. In my opinion they are both equally as bad and should be punished in the same way. We're heading in the right direction, I think men are more likely to talk about abuse these days compared to my father's generation. Still a long way to way to go, until we stop labelling each other and treating each other as equals. Why am I the one who goes to the bar and get the drinks if we're equal ![]() ![]() Fair point, might start wearing them to get out of going bar | |||
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"It's never ok to hit anyone??i said that ![]() You don't expect me to read more than the OP surely | |||
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"It's never ok to hit anyone??i said that ![]() I expect nothing from anyone and that way when nice things happen it's always a lovely surprise ![]() | |||
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"It's never ok to hit anyone??i said that ![]() lol true i generally don't ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Meet violence with violence. In these days of equality, i wouldn't worry about gender if struck first. " Haha I like it | |||
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"Using violence against another is never right. Glad you made the point you did O.P. but the 'woman' thing has stuck from when women were chattel and beating them was legal. " As it need legalized? Damn I didn't know that | |||
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"Should that sexist phrase not be "It's never ok to hit a partner"? Or is it wrong altogether, as in there are some situations where hitting a partner, regardless of gender, is ok? ie self defence? Or does having a vagina qualify somebody as special and immune to any wrongdoing that could possibly justify a hit? Is sexism ok against men? Selef defense is the use of equal or reasonable force but even in that situation I'd not hit anyone, violence is never the answer regardless of the situation. " Having been bottled by a d*unk woman when running a bar years ago, who then attempted to stick the broken end in my face? I was more than happy to use physical force to prevent that. Self defence is always justified whether you're defending yourself from a man or a woman. Gender isn't relevant when someone is physically attacking you. Or are you suggesting men should just stand and take it if being assaulted by a female? A | |||
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"Using violence against another is never right. Glad you made the point you did O.P. but the 'woman' thing has stuck from when women were chattel and beating them was legal. As it need legalized? Damn I didn't know that" Yes dear. Don't leave any bruises. | |||
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"U hit me the wrong way hard enough i dont care if your man woman kid dog fluffy rabbit u should expect getting a chin wobbler or at the minimum u will fear it" You'll hurt yourself with a chin, always go for the throat. Everyone has a glass throat... | |||
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"My friend in the police says d*unk women are usually worse than men for violence, particularly against men as they know most (myself included) won't hit back. His take though is that if she's big enough to swing for him for doing his job then she's big enough to be put on her arse." If a woman went to sctrach my eyes out, she would wake up with a crowd round her | |||
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"I do not agree with hitting unless you are hitting your goals x " Best reply I've seen ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop " I dont know about it never being ok full stop... like in everything in life theres a time where it is needed full stop.... I was a head doorman for over 15yrs and i witnessed many times the ugly side of what should have been good nights out. Ive stopped women from burying their high heels into another persons heads both male and females, bottle and glassing... i love women and would never go out my way to hurt them but as beautiful as they are.. drugs,alcohol. just a real bad day can bring out a dark side and everyone has the right to defend themselves, so if your a woman talk, shout as loud as you want, water of a ducks back... but come at me to cause me pain and its lights out for you same as i would any man... if you can give it best be sure you can take it, that you cant hit a woman shit is not the real world we live in. | |||
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"My friend in the police says d*unk women are usually worse than men for violence, particularly against men as they know most (myself included) won't hit back. His take though is that if she's big enough to swing for him for doing his job then she's big enough to be put on her arse." A lot of men think they can get away with hitting a woman because she won't hit back. It's happened to me more than once.... But never more than once with the same person. They reeeeally don't like it. | |||
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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop " Where does pre-emptive strike sit then; self defence before waiting to be hit. Someone coming at you with a bottle male or female is fair game without ever having to actually touch me. Not gonna wait till I look like a pin cushion before considering fighting back | |||
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"U hit me the wrong way hard enough i dont care if your man woman kid dog fluffy rabbit u should expect getting a chin wobbler or at the minimum u will fear it You'll hurt yourself with a chin, always go for the throat. Everyone has a glass throat..." been there ![]() | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking" Really? Because I'm not even surprised. | |||
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"Is sexism ok against men?" There’s no such things a sexism against men. | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking" Where has anyone given an example of 'way more' than self defence? | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking Really? Because I'm not even surprised." Oh I'm not surprised. It's still shocking though | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking Where has anyone given an example of 'way more' than self defence? " Because there’s always a lot of misogyny in the forums, (and in real life obviously), and men live to justify it with extreme examples. | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking Where has anyone given an example of 'way more' than self defence? " 'She would wake up with a crowd around her' 'Always go for the throat' 'Should expect a chin wobbler or at least fear it' Need I go on? | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking Really? Because I'm not even surprised. Oh I'm not surprised. It's still shocking though " Maybe I'm desensitized to this shit ![]() | |||
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"I don’t mind being hit by a man... in the tonsils.... with his dick..... ![]() What about on the arse with a open hand as he is banging away? | |||
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"I don’t mind being hit by a man... in the tonsils.... with his dick..... ![]() Oh... I suppose So.... if I must | |||
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"I do not agree with hitting unless you are hitting your goals x " I'd hit that. | |||
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"I think some people are trying to say that women are the weaker sex, am I correct? " Yep. I AM though. But of course that’s not true of all women | |||
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"Hitting, pushing, shoving, even touching is, potentially at least, an assault. Theoretically therefore, one should never hit anyone. However, in play, with consent, controlled it's morally ok as long as it's for mutual benefit. Be aware, technically it is still a chargeable offence. Just don't hit people who don't want hit, ever, and we'll all be good!" If only the world was like that | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking Where has anyone given an example of 'way more' than self defence? 'She would wake up with a crowd around her' 'Always go for the throat' 'Should expect a chin wobbler or at least fear it' Need I go on?" You seem to have missed the caveats, If a woman went to sctrach my eyes out, she would wake up with a crowd round her U hit me the wrong way.... And really your example of way more includes fearing getting struck after hitting someone? Pre-emptive strikes in law and what is taught to sia staff, police etc. hit hard once to neutralise the threat not hit lightly three or fou times and take a kicking yourself. This is not gender specific this is about protecting yourself or others from harm | |||
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"I must admit I didn't like the opening post which seems at best an uncomfortable attempt to equate sexism to domestic violence. But the way the thread has gone and the way some men seem to be revelling in the fact that they'd use violence against women as self defence while not adding the slightest hint of a caveat such as 'as a last resort' and describing way more than what most people would describe as self defence is a little shocking Where has anyone given an example of 'way more' than self defence? 'She would wake up with a crowd around her' 'Always go for the throat' 'Should expect a chin wobbler or at least fear it' Need I go on? You seem to have missed the caveats, If a woman went to sctrach my eyes out, she would wake up with a crowd round her U hit me the wrong way.... And really your example of way more includes fearing getting struck after hitting someone? Pre-emptive strikes in law and what is taught to sia staff, police etc. hit hard once to neutralise the threat not hit lightly three or fou times and take a kicking yourself. This is not gender specific this is about protecting yourself or others from harm" Let's just agree to disagree about what is self defence, what is appropriate force and a proportionate response and what is men revelling in excessive violence against women. | |||
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"I don’t mind being hit by a man... in the tonsils.... with his dick..... ![]() If you don’t like that kind of thing it’s ok. I suppose that’s how porn has ruined people’s ideas of sex. ![]() | |||
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"I don’t mind being hit by a man... in the tonsils.... with his dick..... ![]() ![]() I do like it. It’s like sugar sprinkled on top. | |||
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" Let's just agree to disagree about what is self defence, what is appropriate force and a proportionate response and what is men revelling in excessive violence against women. " No bother, for clarity I am not supportive of violence against any person unless as a last resort and the option to run away is not there | |||
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"I don’t mind being hit by a man... in the tonsils.... with his dick..... ![]() ![]() I wouldn’t mind sprinkling more than sugar on top of you..... ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Should that sexist phrase not be "It's never ok to hit a partner"? Or is it wrong altogether, as in there are some situations where hitting a partner, regardless of gender, is ok? ie self defence? Or does having a vagina qualify somebody as special and immune to any wrongdoing that could possibly justify a hit? Is sexism ok against men?" It's pretty much like "Black lives matter" Of course all lives matter. But "Black lives matter" is also correct. Yes, hitting any partner is bad. Hitting a woman is also bad. So nothing wrong in saying that. | |||
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"Violence is violence regardless of gender. Though I think this kind of sexism happens from when children are little. Where boys will be boys if they end up fighting, but if they fight with a girl all hell breaks loose. In my opinion they are both equally as bad and should be punished in the same way. We're heading in the right direction, I think men are more likely to talk about abuse these days compared to my father's generation. Still a long way to way to go, until we stop labelling each other and treating each other as equals. Why am I the one who goes to the bar and get the drinks if we're equal ![]() Well thats your own stupid fault for hanging out with women that dont get a round in ![]() | |||
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"Violence is violence regardless of gender. Though I think this kind of sexism happens from when children are little. Where boys will be boys if they end up fighting, but if they fight with a girl all hell breaks loose. In my opinion they are both equally as bad and should be punished in the same way. We're heading in the right direction, I think men are more likely to talk about abuse these days compared to my father's generation. Still a long way to way to go, until we stop labelling each other and treating each other as equals. Why am I the one who goes to the bar and get the drinks if we're equal ![]() ![]() So I'm stupid now am I? | |||
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"Is sexism ok against men? There’s no such things a sexism against men. " Yes there is. Look at the definition of sexism and it can apply to any sex. For example: Jeremy Corbyn saying he'd consider segregating men on trains so they can't travel with women is sexist. | |||
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"What about bdsm? That's hitting and concensual is that OK? " corse it is | |||
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"What about bdsm? That's hitting and concensual is that OK? " Technically, if it causes injury, bruising or worse then it is illegal This is the case law which set precedent in the UK R v Brown 1993 is a House of Lords judgment in which a group of men were convicted for their involvement in consensual sadomasochistic sexual acts over a 10-year period. They were convicted of "unlawful and malicious wounding" and "assault occasioning actual bodily harm" contrary to sections 20 and 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The key issue facing the Court was whether consent was a valid defence to assault in these circumstances, to which the Court answered in the negative. | |||
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"What about bdsm? That's hitting and concensual is that OK? Technically, if it causes injury, bruising or worse then it is illegal This is the case law which set precedent in the UK R v Brown 1993 is a House of Lords judgment in which a group of men were convicted for their involvement in consensual sadomasochistic sexual acts over a 10-year period. They were convicted of "unlawful and malicious wounding" and "assault occasioning actual bodily harm" contrary to sections 20 and 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The key issue facing the Court was whether consent was a valid defence to assault in these circumstances, to which the Court answered in the negative." its still ok tho | |||
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"What about bdsm? That's hitting and concensual is that OK? Technically, if it causes injury, bruising or worse then it is illegal This is the case law which set precedent in the UK R v Brown 1993 is a House of Lords judgment in which a group of men were convicted for their involvement in consensual sadomasochistic sexual acts over a 10-year period. They were convicted of "unlawful and malicious wounding" and "assault occasioning actual bodily harm" contrary to sections 20 and 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The key issue facing the Court was whether consent was a valid defence to assault in these circumstances, to which the Court answered in the negative." Yeah we know that. But Mr S isn't happy if we are playing that way and he isn't black and blue and bleeding. And clubs exist that cater for that specific need. The question wasn't about the technicalities of the law, it was about it being ok in our eyes in that situation it is. | |||
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"Should that sexist phrase not be "It's never ok to hit a partner"? Or is it wrong altogether, as in there are some situations where hitting a partner, regardless of gender, is ok? ie self defence? Or does having a vagina qualify somebody as special and immune to any wrongdoing that could possibly justify a hit? Is sexism ok against men?" It's never ok to hit anyone, unless in self-defence, in which case them hitting you would be the fundamental cause. Even if a woman were to attack me though, I'm not capable of striking out against her. What I'd be more inclined to do would be to close my legs first and foremost, then if indoors pick her up and place her in a different room before shutting and holding shut the door between us until her aggression worked itself out. B | |||
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"Should that sexist phrase not be "It's never ok to hit a partner"? Or is it wrong altogether, as in there are some situations where hitting a partner, regardless of gender, is ok? ie self defence? Or does having a vagina qualify somebody as special and immune to any wrongdoing that could possibly justify a hit? Is sexism ok against men? It's never ok to hit anyone, unless in self-defence, in which case them hitting you would be the fundamental cause. Even if a woman were to attack me though, I'm not capable of striking out against her. What I'd be more inclined to do would be to close my legs first and foremost, then if indoors pick her up and place her in a different room before shutting and holding shut the door between us until her aggression worked itself out. B" no spinning wheel kick then ![]() | |||
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"What about bdsm? That's hitting and concensual is that OK? Technically, if it causes injury, bruising or worse then it is illegal This is the case law which set precedent in the UK R v Brown 1993 is a House of Lords judgment in which a group of men were convicted for their involvement in consensual sadomasochistic sexual acts over a 10-year period. They were convicted of "unlawful and malicious wounding" and "assault occasioning actual bodily harm" contrary to sections 20 and 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The key issue facing the Court was whether consent was a valid defence to assault in these circumstances, to which the Court answered in the negative. Yeah we know that. But Mr S isn't happy if we are playing that way and he isn't black and blue and bleeding. And clubs exist that cater for that specific need. The question wasn't about the technicalities of the law, it was about it being ok in our eyes in that situation it is. " We play that way too and have many photos on another website that aren't allowed here but it's always good to be aware of the law of you're gonna skirt around the edges. ![]() | |||
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"What about bdsm? That's hitting and concensual is that OK? Technically, if it causes injury, bruising or worse then it is illegal This is the case law which set precedent in the UK R v Brown 1993 is a House of Lords judgment in which a group of men were convicted for their involvement in consensual sadomasochistic sexual acts over a 10-year period. They were convicted of "unlawful and malicious wounding" and "assault occasioning actual bodily harm" contrary to sections 20 and 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861. The key issue facing the Court was whether consent was a valid defence to assault in these circumstances, to which the Court answered in the negative. Yeah we know that. But Mr S isn't happy if we are playing that way and he isn't black and blue and bleeding. And clubs exist that cater for that specific need. The question wasn't about the technicalities of the law, it was about it being ok in our eyes in that situation it is. We play that way too and have many photos on another website that aren't allowed here but it's always good to be aware of the law of you're gonna skirt around the edges. ![]() We're on that site too.... Lol | |||
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"No one has actually clearly set apart the "domestic violence", and "out on the piss having a barny" side. One of the posters earlier did mention there are many reasons why people choose violence, but there are so many levels and complexities to this issue. Right at the begining someone corrected the OP I think saying partner, instead of woman. There are many guys that are subjected to violence from their partners and this is never considered. I know this from experience, I've had to lock myself in rooms etc to take myself away from the situation as violence is never the answer. And breathe...." My brother endured this for years. My little brother who I've looked after since the day he was born and I was never allowed to intervene. Which was his choice and I respected it and he was probably right and protecting me. But having to watch him go through it was hell. He's OK now and I hope you are too xx | |||
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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop Where does pre-emptive strike sit then; self defence before waiting to be hit. Someone coming at you with a bottle male or female is fair game without ever having to actually touch me. Not gonna wait till I look like a pin cushion before considering fighting back" If I was under attack or my children were etc, of course. I'm not daft. I mean generally. | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. " We've been focusing too much on the finger work. | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. We've been focusing too much on the finger work." I learned that the hard way after a Chinese Burn challenge backfired. | |||
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"It's never ok to hit. Full stop " I agree with this, tho it can be very difficult at times.. | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. " I'd kill you at a thumb war. Then afterwards, you'd try to make up rules that I apparently broke so it didn't count. | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. I'd kill you at a thumb war. Then afterwards, you'd try to make up rules that I apparently broke so it didn't count. " No chance, my thumbs could do things to you that you've never even imagined. | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. I'd kill you at a thumb war. Then afterwards, you'd try to make up rules that I apparently broke so it didn't count. No chance, my thumbs could do things to you that you've never even imagined." Oh! Twister then | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. I'd kill you at a thumb war. Then afterwards, you'd try to make up rules that I apparently broke so it didn't count. No chance, my thumbs could do things to you that you've never even imagined. Oh! Twister then " Naked? | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. I'd kill you at a thumb war. Then afterwards, you'd try to make up rules that I apparently broke so it didn't count. No chance, my thumbs could do things to you that you've never even imagined. Oh! Twister then Naked?" Yeah you can go naked if you like | |||
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"If threatened with violence I challenge them to a thumb war, women suck at thumb wars. I'd kill you at a thumb war. Then afterwards, you'd try to make up rules that I apparently broke so it didn't count. No chance, my thumbs could do things to you that you've never even imagined. Oh! Twister then Naked? Yeah you can go naked if you like " Go on then if you insist ![]() | |||
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