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"Are you? " Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol. | |||
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"Are you? Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol." Banned? 
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"Are you? Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol. Banned?
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"Are you? Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol. Banned?
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"Are you? Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol. Banned?
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Oh. Not a forgiving bunch, I take it. "You can "repent" and all of that, beg for forgiveness, etc. | |||
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"Are you? Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol. Banned?
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You can "repent" and all of that, beg for forgiveness, etc."Right, so you could go back if you did that, it's not a lifetime ban | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. " I don't, I can't stand them! Ha! | |||
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"No but my Dog loves collecting all the little leaflets that are pushed through the door in his bed... I tried to read one once but it got snatched off me and put back in his pile "Ha! | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. " Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? | |||
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"Are you? Yeah! I was brought up as one! I was banned about 10 years ago. Lol. Banned?
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You can "repent" and all of that, beg for forgiveness, etc.
Right, so you could go back if you did that, it's not a lifetime ban "You could go back - if you were a fucking idiot, or if you were sufficiently manipulated. | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect?" I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect?" The same as any other religion. Hope. | |||
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"i like them..... gives me an opportunity to question them and then they fail "Ha! Yes! My brother got banned too... He got banned for being gay. | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha!" Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. I don't, I can't stand them! Ha!" I can’t stand religion tbh. But I wouldn’t bad mouth any or people that believe in religion  | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? The same as any other religion. Hope. " Then let them do their thing | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs " I don't have a great opinion of religion in general. In particular though, I can't stand Jehovah's Witnesses. | |||
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"Fortunately my parents raised me with no religion as they wanted me to choose for myself as an adult. I know a few Jahovah's witnesses. No issue with them but it's sad seeing the ones with kids miss out on Christmas. The whole refusing their kids blood transfusions thing is a bit of a sore spot though." And that's only what you see in the surface.  | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs I don't have a great opinion of religion in general. In particular though, I can't stand Jehovah's Witnesses." It’s a free country mate. | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs I don't have a great opinion of religion in general. In particular though, I can't stand Jehovah's Witnesses. It’s a free country mate. "It is indeed. | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... " I think with JW's, it goes a little deeper than just a religion. It's a way of life. There are all sorts of other things going on in the background. | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... " Shit eggs are actually called “poop” #happytohelp | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... I think with JW's, it goes a little deeper than just a religion. It's a way of life. There are all sorts of other things going on in the background." Like what? | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... Shit eggs are actually called “poop” #happytohelp" #themoreyouknow | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... Shit eggs are actually called “poop” #happytohelp #themoreyouknow" . Breakfast at yours must be the most frightening game of roulette ever! | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... Shit eggs are actually called “poop” #happytohelp #themoreyouknow. Breakfast at yours must be the most frightening game of roulette ever! " I think that’s 90% the reason of why I’m single | |||
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"We have a Kingdom Hall a few streets away, they regularly knock along our road. Except my house... I've been blacklisted! " Totally not related to the thread but your profile pic is awesome! | |||
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"We have a Kingdom Hall a few streets away, they regularly knock along our road. Except my house... I've been blacklisted! " I don't understand why they do it. No one from any other religion knock on my door. | |||
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"We have a Kingdom Hall a few streets away, they regularly knock along our road. Except my house... I've been blacklisted! Totally not related to the thread but your profile pic is awesome! "
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"We have a Kingdom Hall a few streets away, they regularly knock along our road. Except my house... I've been blacklisted! I don't understand why they do it. No one from any other religion knock on my door." I don't either... But I don't have to worry anymore I've even had calls from neighbours, when they know they're out knocking I happily nip round & answer their doors | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs " Only if they're twats. | |||
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"It's a manipulative cult that uses manipulation and isolation to brainwash people and indoctrinate their children...often hushing things up that should be dealt with by the authorities. I don't know a single brave 'escapee' who hasn't suffered from the JWs cultish ways...and i know several. I honestly respect everyone's right to choose, but, in my opinion, organised religions/cults are self serving businesses. Ill get back on the fence now.
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs " I can respect them as peoole without having to respect their beliefs If somebody told me they believed that fairies lived at the bottom of their garden they really shouldn't get any respect for believing that | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... I think with JW's, it goes a little deeper than just a religion. It's a way of life. There are all sorts of other things going on in the background. Like what?" Manipulation, exploitation, deception, shy little tricks... Some nasty indoctrination too. | |||
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"It seems a lot of religious organisations have got a quite sinister edge... not a fan of any To worship something/ someone no one has ever seen...give me science any day... but each to their own.. "That religion is poisonous... | |||
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"It's a manipulative cult that uses manipulation and isolation to brainwash people and indoctrinate their children...often hushing things up that should be dealt with by the authorities. I don't know a single brave 'escapee' who hasn't suffered from the JWs cultish ways...and i know several. I honestly respect everyone's right to choose, but, in my opinion, organised religions/cults are self serving businesses. Ill get back on the fence now.
"I feel exactly the same about them. They're horrible.. | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... Shit eggs are actually called “poop” #happytohelp #themoreyouknow. Breakfast at yours must be the most frightening game of roulette ever! I think that’s 90% the reason of why I’m single " That and your handwriting | |||
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"Like any religion, it’s what people make of it. My mums family are Catholic. Did they disown my cousin when he came out as gay? No. Did others in the church? Yes. You get idiots in all walks of life, religion is open to interpretation. You get good eggs and shit ones. I had a cowboy plumber rip me off- doesn’t mean I’m going to write off all plumbers... Shit eggs are actually called “poop” #happytohelp #themoreyouknow. Breakfast at yours must be the most frightening game of roulette ever! I think that’s 90% the reason of why I’m single That and your handwriting "
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"It's a manipulative cult that uses manipulation and isolation to brainwash people and indoctrinate their children...often hushing things up that should be dealt with by the authorities. I don't know a single brave 'escapee' who hasn't suffered from the JWs cultish ways...and i know several. I honestly respect everyone's right to choose, but, in my opinion, organised religions/cults are self serving businesses. Ill get back on the fence now.
I feel exactly the same about them. They're horrible.."Tbis can describe any super far right or left group not just religion. Anyone who can break the mind out of indoctrinated cults espically one they put into from birth are real hero's. I've got time for spirituality if that's your thing but organised religion can do one. The most manipulative people end up in control over often very susceptible people. OP im also adopting "j-dubs" to describe Jehovah's Witnesses now HAHA | |||
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"Dangerous ground this, history is filled with religious arguments of one sort or another just look at history. Always someone telling others that their God is better than your God and And will kill you to prove it. Once again it "should" be down to the individuals own personal choice Which path to follow and what they believe. We have our own beliefs as we are sure others have. " Makes me laugh .. the who's God is best... well I spose there's about 150 plus to choose from... | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. " I can be tolerant of them as humans However I could not respect the doctrine which simply is nonsensical | |||
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"It's a manipulative cult that uses manipulation and isolation to brainwash people and indoctrinate their children...often hushing things up that should be dealt with by the authorities. I don't know a single brave 'escapee' who hasn't suffered from the JWs cultish ways...and i know several. I honestly respect everyone's right to choose, but, in my opinion, organised religions/cults are self serving businesses. Ill get back on the fence now.
I feel exactly the same about them. They're horrible..
Tbis can describe any super far right or left group not just religion.
Anyone who can break the mind out of indoctrinated cults espically one they put into from birth are real hero's.
I've got time for spirituality if that's your thing but organised religion can do one.
The most manipulative people end up in control over often very susceptible people.
OP im also adopting "j-dubs" to describe Jehovah's Witnesses now HAHA"Haha! I agree.. and J-Dubs... I formulated that name many years ago. | |||
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"I have some in the family. Give them a pretty wide berth. I respect anyone's right to believe what they like, although the blood transfusion element troubles me." What about if it damages their children? | |||
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"I respect them even though I’m not a believer. Why? What do they believe in that’s allowed them to earn your respect? I have 100 reasons to disrespect them. Ha! Do you disrespect Muslims, Christians,Sikhs " Respect the people if they are nice whatever religion or cult. The JWs I know are ok , a bit weird but no worse than some of the non JWs I know | |||
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"I'm an ex JW. That'll make me very unpopular on here now no doubt. Maybe I should delete my profile now. Say that and most people run a mile. They think it's a cult. I don't agree with kids being made to follow religion when they are too young to comprehend it and make a choice on it. I walked away at 16 sticking two fingers up at it all. You know why? Because when they learned who caused all my bruises all they did was quote the bible at him. Didn't report it, hid it and when social services got involved they did not like it that an outside organisation were used. Quoting the bible didn't stop him. They then disfellowshipped (banned) him for something else and not what he did to me. If you ever watched the panarama programnes about them hiding child abusers trust me it was pretty spot on. " I'm an ex jw too. I'm aware of their fucked-up-ness. They still make me feel sick too. I can't handle seeing their children on the street, knowing what sorts of things they're hiding. To some extent, it's not even hidden either, just people don't know what the community is really like. | |||
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"I have some in the family. Give them a pretty wide berth. I respect anyone's right to believe what they like, although the blood transfusion element troubles me. What about if it damages their children?" I didn't say I respected the consequences of anyone believing what they liked, that I'd support them in it, or that they get to inflict it on people who can't consent. People have freedom of belief. I respect their freedom. I don't respect the beliefs. | |||
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"I'm an ex JW. That'll make me very unpopular on here now no doubt. Maybe I should delete my profile now. Say that and most people run a mile. They think it's a cult. I don't agree with kids being made to follow religion when they are too young to comprehend it and make a choice on it. I walked away at 16 sticking two fingers up at it all. You know why? Because when they learned who caused all my bruises all they did was quote the bible at him. Didn't report it, hid it and when social services got involved they did not like it that an outside organisation were used. Quoting the bible didn't stop him. They then disfellowshipped (banned) him for something else and not what he did to me. If you ever watched the panarama programnes about them hiding child abusers trust me it was pretty spot on. I'm an ex jw too. I'm aware of their fucked-up-ness. They still make me feel sick too. I can't handle seeing their children on the street, knowing what sorts of things they're hiding. To some extent, it's not even hidden either, just people don't know what the community is really like." Just like any other religion, community | |||
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"I'm an ex JW. That'll make me very unpopular on here now no doubt. Maybe I should delete my profile now. Say that and most people run a mile. They think it's a cult. I don't agree with kids being made to follow religion when they are too young to comprehend it and make a choice on it. I walked away at 16 sticking two fingers up at it all. You know why? Because when they learned who caused all my bruises all they did was quote the bible at him. Didn't report it, hid it and when social services got involved they did not like it that an outside organisation were used. Quoting the bible didn't stop him. They then disfellowshipped (banned) him for something else and not what he did to me. If you ever watched the panarama programnes about them hiding child abusers trust me it was pretty spot on. I'm an ex jw too. I'm aware of their fucked-up-ness. They still make me feel sick too. I can't handle seeing their children on the street, knowing what sorts of things they're hiding. To some extent, it's not even hidden either, just people don't know what the community is really like." I could rant about so much of it, and I'd probably end up angry. I can't stand seeing the children either. I'm with you on that. I feel very strongly about kids and religion to a point where I'm sure I'd offend. I just don't think any child should be made to follow religion at all until they are old enough to comprehend it enough to make that choice should they wish to... And it's their choice not anyone else's. Same with religion. And football teams lol! I spent me childhood restricted by them people, couldnt celebrate anything at all, made to sit out of things, couldn't read books or watch TV programmes because of content. And was bullied practically everywhere I went for being one... When I never had a choice in it. No child should ever go through that imo. Its just my opinion but it never ever change no matter what anyone says. | |||
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"Yeah! Jehovah's witnesses! Anyone on here an ex J-Dub? :D " Yes I am. Hated it as a kid and couldn't wait to leave! | |||
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"We have a Kingdom Hall a few streets away, they regularly knock along our road. Except my house... I've been blacklisted! I don't understand why they do it. No one from any other religion knock on my door." Me and my cousin had to go knocking on doors together in our mid teens. We really weren't into it by then and were looking for a way out. Anyway, one afternoon we knocked on a door and a mild mannered student answered. My cousin started her little spiel about the kingdom of god and when she'd finished the guy very politely said he wasn't interested. My cousin said 'That's alright. Neither am I really,' and just walked off! I just stood there laughing and casually eyeing up the student who was stood there in just his pants. Must've been that day when I realised that my interests lay elsewhere.  | |||
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"I'm an ex JW. That'll make me very unpopular on here now no doubt. Maybe I should delete my profile now. Say that and most people run a mile. They think it's a cult. I don't agree with kids being made to follow religion when they are too young to comprehend it and make a choice on it. I walked away at 16 sticking two fingers up at it all. You know why? Because when they learned who caused all my bruises all they did was quote the bible at him. Didn't report it, hid it and when social services got involved they did not like it that an outside organisation were used. Quoting the bible didn't stop him. They then disfellowshipped (banned) him for something else and not what he did to me. If you ever watched the panarama programnes about them hiding child abusers trust me it was pretty spot on. I'm an ex jw too. I'm aware of their fucked-up-ness. They still make me feel sick too. I can't handle seeing their children on the street, knowing what sorts of things they're hiding. To some extent, it's not even hidden either, just people don't know what the community is really like. I could rant about so much of it, and I'd probably end up angry. I can't stand seeing the children either. I'm with you on that. I feel very strongly about kids and religion to a point where I'm sure I'd offend. I just don't think any child should be made to follow religion at all until they are old enough to comprehend it enough to make that choice should they wish to... And it's their choice not anyone else's. Same with religion. And football teams lol! I spent me childhood restricted by them people, couldnt celebrate anything at all, made to sit out of things, couldn't read books or watch TV programmes because of content. And was bullied practically everywhere I went for being one... When I never had a choice in it. No child should ever go through that imo. Its just my opinion but it never ever change no matter what anyone says. " I shared the same past.. and having to knock on the doors of bullies and another children in school. Made to believe the weirdest of things. Guilt tripped into believing in a certain way. | |||
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"We have a Kingdom Hall a few streets away, they regularly knock along our road. Except my house... I've been blacklisted! I don't understand why they do it. No one from any other religion knock on my door. Me and my cousin had to go knocking on doors together in our mid teens. We really weren't into it by then and were looking for a way out. Anyway, one afternoon we knocked on a door and a mild mannered student answered. My cousin started her little spiel about the kingdom of god and when she'd finished the guy very politely said he wasn't interested. My cousin said 'That's alright. Neither am I really,' and just walked off! I just stood there laughing and casually eyeing up the student who was stood there in just his pants. Must've been that day when I realised that my interests lay elsewhere. "I did that too! Ha! Said, hey, my dad and these other people in the religion want me to give you this magazine. Here you go. Bye... | |||
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"I'm an ex JW. That'll make me very unpopular on here now no doubt. Maybe I should delete my profile now. Say that and most people run a mile. They think it's a cult. I don't agree with kids being made to follow religion when they are too young to comprehend it and make a choice on it. I walked away at 16 sticking two fingers up at it all. You know why? Because when they learned who caused all my bruises all they did was quote the bible at him. Didn't report it, hid it and when social services got involved they did not like it that an outside organisation were used. Quoting the bible didn't stop him. They then disfellowshipped (banned) him for something else and not what he did to me. If you ever watched the panarama programnes about them hiding child abusers trust me it was pretty spot on. I'm an ex jw too. I'm aware of their fucked-up-ness. They still make me feel sick too. I can't handle seeing their children on the street, knowing what sorts of things they're hiding. To some extent, it's not even hidden either, just people don't know what the community is really like. I could rant about so much of it, and I'd probably end up angry. I can't stand seeing the children either. I'm with you on that. I feel very strongly about kids and religion to a point where I'm sure I'd offend. I just don't think any child should be made to follow religion at all until they are old enough to comprehend it enough to make that choice should they wish to... And it's their choice not anyone else's. Same with religion. And football teams lol! I spent me childhood restricted by them people, couldnt celebrate anything at all, made to sit out of things, couldn't read books or watch TV programmes because of content. And was bullied practically everywhere I went for being one... When I never had a choice in it. No child should ever go through that imo. Its just my opinion but it never ever change no matter what anyone says. I shared the same past.. and having to knock on the doors of bullies and another children in school. Made to believe the weirdest of things. Guilt tripped into believing in a certain way." It's a total headfuck isn't it. Made to feel bad for so many things as a child and like you have sinned. It's awful. And that's the worst bit of it all for me. The amount of things that headfucked me and made me feel like I was bad. While other kids did far far worse and some of those things were to me. You end up thinking how the hell can they get away with it but apparently I'm bad because of something far more trivial. Like... I was reading a book, this was primary school. Halfway through it turned out to be a story involving a ghost. It gave no clues of this in the blurb. So I had to stop reading it and get another. I rem_mber not wanting to and wanting to finish the book but reluctantly went through the selection to find another. Only most of them where not allowed. I rem_mber getting really upset and then walking away from the bookshelf thinking what's the bloody point. I was primary school!!! And I felt like I'd been bad Coz I read a story with a ghost in it...... I think that's the first moment I developed a dislike to the whole thing. It made me miserable. I wouldn't do that to any child. It's bloody awful. They should be encouraged to read. Not made to feel like they've sinned. | |||
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"I'm an ex jw well I was brought up in it. Like has been said above I walked away giving the normal 2 finger salute. Only I did it at 13ish. I just point blank refused to go anymore. From that I had endless meetings with the elders with me not buddging an inch. The outcome was I was obviously the black sheep of the family and was rebelling. I was a teenage adolescent nothing more. Again as said above I seen my mates doing all kinds much worse than I'd of dreamed of but that matters not. I was promptly placed into a kids home and there I rotted till almost 17 even though my sister from day 1 wanted to adopt me. They let her when I was virtually out of there control anyway but I digress. I'm now a 51 year old bloke and have done all the reflecting I'm ever likely to and my conclusion is this. No matter what religion or anything else come to that there's good and bad as there are good and bad ppl in the world. I more than most should hate them but no I honestly don't. If they knock on my door I'll chat with them for as long as they like as I rem_mber them damn scripture just as well as they do more in some cases. On the whole I see them as inherently good ppl but sadly extremely misguided. Accusing them of being child m@lesters and the like is just wrong or at least it is unless your accusing them all of it because it's riff in them all. How long has the church be hiding that shit and many of them abusing kids with the same background as me with nobody and alone." Yeah, I know a few deleted children too. People have no idea that the JWs are this extreme. | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much'" I wish, my friend, that it was illegal to indoctrinate children. If you're an adult, do what the fuck you like, but don't go messing around with children's heads. You can literally hijack a child's mind. Many of my friends minds were hijacked. Even now, they are trapped in an intangible set of limits, to which they won't attempt to break out of. I wish the religion was investigated and those caught manipulating children should be punished. I got lucky, but my friend's didn't. Honestly, the cult is evil. It extends extreme control over willing families too. | |||
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"When they knock on the door we invite them in and try and turn them on and fuck them.... Very close last time.. Yeah! Jehovah's witnesses! Anyone on here an ex J-Dub? :D " Ohhhh yes!!! | |||
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Politics and religion. You gotta laugh what a state ppl get in over it "Indeed. But while it's perfectly acceptable to criticise somebodies politics it seems that we've all become afraid to criticise their religious beliefs | |||
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"Is it different from the “Later Day Saints” lot? " Similar sort of thing, but JWs a little bit more extreme is say. | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much' I wish, my friend, that it was illegal to indoctrinate children. If you're an adult, do what the fuck you like, but don't go messing around with children's heads. You can literally hijack a child's mind. Many of my friends minds were hijacked. Even now, they are trapped in an intangible set of limits, to which they won't attempt to break out of. I wish the religion was investigated and those caught manipulating children should be punished. I got lucky, but my friend's didn't. Honestly, the cult is evil. It extends extreme control over willing families too. I hear you
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"God doesn't exist. Would God keep all the child killers alive for a reason? " The JWs have an answer for that. | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much'" The belief's? You mean the their belief of the great tribulation that will occur before armageddon comes and those remaining get everlasting life on paradise earth? I wish the extremes they go to were challenged more. And how much they hide things and try and deal with it in house. | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much' I wish, my friend, that it was illegal to indoctrinate children. If you're an adult, do what the fuck you like, but don't go messing around with children's heads. You can literally hijack a child's mind. Many of my friends minds were hijacked. Even now, they are trapped in an intangible set of limits, to which they won't attempt to break out of. I wish the religion was investigated and those caught manipulating children should be punished. I got lucky, but my friend's didn't. Honestly, the cult is evil. It extends extreme control over willing families too. I hear you
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I guess thats the intention tho. Shut down criticism before it even starts
Politics and religion. You gotta laugh what a state ppl get in over it
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"We don't think it should be blasfermy just saying Jeahova " I only said it once Jehovah | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much' The belief's? You mean the their belief of the great tribulation that will occur before armageddon comes and those remaining get everlasting life on paradise earth? I wish the extremes they go to were challenged more. And how much they hide things and try and deal with it in house. " What about the 144,000? Ha! Yeah, I had an illegal trial/judicial. It was ridiculous. They are even weirder. 3 men Vs one person. One of my friends says they asked her sexual questions, etc.. | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much' The belief's? You mean the their belief of the great tribulation that will occur before armageddon comes and those remaining get everlasting life on paradise earth? I wish the extremes they go to were challenged more. And how much they hide things and try and deal with it in house. This is why it worries me that criticism of religion is slowly being shut down They'll be trying to introduce blasphemy laws again soon "I think there should be a level of checks on people that are leaders in religions and it concerns me greatly that there isn't. At the very least there should be a safeguarding aspect towards children. It's not just one religion religion that needs it either. They all do. I could go off on a tangent on this but I won't on here. But the acts some people are encouraged to do and that harm or kill other people in the name of religion shouldn't be happening. There's nothing to stop it though. | |||
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"Just a quick question for the ex JWS Do you wish the beliefs of the organisation had been challenged more? Instead of people just saying 'oh it's their religion so we better not question it too much' The belief's? You mean the their belief of the great tribulation that will occur before armageddon comes and those remaining get everlasting life on paradise earth? I wish the extremes they go to were challenged more. And how much they hide things and try and deal with it in house. This is why it worries me that criticism of religion is slowly being shut down They'll be trying to introduce blasphemy laws again soon
I think there should be a level of checks on people that are leaders in religions and it concerns me greatly that there isn't. At the very least there should be a safeguarding aspect towards children.
It's not just one religion religion that needs it either. They all do.
I could go off on a tangent on this but I won't on here. But the acts some people are encouraged to do and that harm or kill other people in the name of religion shouldn't be happening. There's nothing to stop it though. "I feel exactly the same way... Also, I think that Satan's system is way better. Ha! | |||
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"Ask them why sex with family m_mbers WAS ok Really fucks them off" Omg your butt plug pic is so funny, thank you I've not laughed that much all day!!! | |||
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"Ask them why sex with family m_mbers WAS ok Really fucks them off Omg your butt plug pic is so funny, thank you I've not laughed that much all day!!! "Haha that is a cracker | |||
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"Ask them why sex with family m_mbers WAS ok Really fucks them off Omg your butt plug pic is so funny, thank you I've not laughed that much all day!!!
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"I have some in the family. Give them a pretty wide berth. I respect anyone's right to believe what they like, although the blood transfusion element troubles me." They can use cell saver technology, it salvages their own blood during operations. | |||
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"Genuine question. Why is it that the criticism, and sometimes just the discussion of the Islamic faith is very often viewed as a possible race-hate offence, but the criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses, Christians etc is deemed perfectly acceptable?" Because the people who view criticism of Islam as being a racial crime are trying to blur the two deliberately | |||
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"Genuine question. Why is it that the criticism, and sometimes just the discussion of the Islamic faith is very often viewed as a possible race-hate offence, but the criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses, Christians etc is deemed perfectly acceptable? Because the people who view criticism of Islam as being a racial crime are trying to blur the two deliberately So why doesn't the same rule apply to all religions?" Because religion isn't a race | |||
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"Genuine question. Why is it that the criticism, and sometimes just the discussion of the Islamic faith is very often viewed as a possible race-hate offence, but the criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses, Christians etc is deemed perfectly acceptable? Because the people who view criticism of Islam as being a racial crime are trying to blur the two deliberately So why doesn't the same rule apply to all religions? Because religion isn't a race How can Islam be counted as a single race when it's made up of many different races?" It can't. That's what I'm saying | |||
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"It's a manipulative cult that uses manipulation and isolation to brainwash people and indoctrinate their children...often hushing things up that should be dealt with by the authorities. I don't know a single brave 'escapee' who hasn't suffered from the JWs cultish ways...and i know several. I honestly respect everyone's right to choose, but, in my opinion, organised religions/cults are self serving businesses. Ill get back on the fence now.
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"Nah I've upset a few of them. They don't like plot holes being found in their logic. There really isn’t much logic at all in religions just people believing any shite they are told without any questions " Well these didn't like the fact I pointed out what their religion was founded on, I doubt i'm allowed to say the word here | |||
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"Yes me until I fell pregnant an 17 and was made to feel like a Jezebel " I've seen that happen and it was awful. Feel for you. | |||
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"Nah I've upset a few of them. They don't like plot holes being found in their logic. There really isn’t much logic at all in religions just people believing any shite they are told without any questions Well these didn't like the fact I pointed out what their religion was founded on, I doubt i'm allowed to say the word here" The thing about them not allowed to take blood if they need it I was a blood donor for long time. My cousin is a theatre nurse and he has seen fair few JWs take blood when they realise it’s that or die | |||
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"Used to live near. JW church and on many occasions they would knock on our door fairly early on a Sunday morning. Depending on what I’d been doing the night before was how I would greet them. I used to enjoy winding them up sometimes I used to tell them I am a devil worshiper the look on their faces was a picture. I also liked asking them Who made God and where did he live before he built everything never got a reasonable answer. " They called at mine on Christmas day, two years running!! The first year I was polite, but asked them not to call on Dec 25th again...second year I just tipped a bucket of cold water over them from an upstairs window and told them to piss off...they never called again...result! | |||
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"If anyone wants to watch YouTuber called Mr. atheist, there's loads that he talks about jw's. He's ex Mormon himself" I'm def gonna find that, interesting, thanks. | |||
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"I wanted to know also how God managed to make so much stuff in Six days when it takes me longer than that to decorate one room in my house. He should def get on homes under the hammer he would be loaded lol. " Pmsl!!! Good point. | |||
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"I rem_mber letting a pair in my house for a chat once due to the rain, we ended up getting stuck with the paradox that is free will with destiny. Haha" Rather like the joke I heard years ago about the 2 Jehovah's Witnesses who knocked on a door early one evening. Occupant opened the door, said he was having his tea, but invited them in to join him. They feasted well through three courses, good wine and a few drinks, but after 2 hours, the home owner asked, "what did you want to say?" Reply was, "Errm, we've forgotten, we normally have doors slammed in our faces! We haven't been trained for getting past that point!" | |||
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"We know a family of JWs. They don’t smoke or swear and are very helpful. They don’t like gay people. They home educated their kids who don’t have any qualifications so have to work for other JWs. They don’t like other religions. Their Kingdom Hall people say they are ‘in the truth’ and they can shun people. I don’t approve of organised religion. " That's very typical of Jehovah's witnesses. | |||
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"I rem_mber letting a pair in my house for a chat once due to the rain, we ended up getting stuck with the paradox that is free will with destiny. Haha" I could go on and on with them. Last time they called, I was thinking "Aha! Watch this!"... But you know what, I opened the door to a child and felt physically sick. I can't be nasty to a child, plus, I feel extremely sorry for them. I've been in that situation. What happens then is that I just feel distressed and can't talk. | |||
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"Read a great quote recently... 'Religious wars are basically people killing each other over who has the better imaginary friend'. " Best post on thread | |||
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"You could replace the words Jehova Witness with the name of any other major religion and all the above comments would equally apply" indeed, which is why I added the last sentence. | |||
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"I used to work with a pair of jw's. Fundimentally nice lads but fuck me! How fucked up was their outlook? Creationism, god, being nice..... Even to me who was laughing in their faces. One of them (the weakest of the two ((he lost his mind on cocaine)), even bought me a bible. . . . Which I started to read, starting on page one and working my way through. "That's not the way you read the Bible" he said. "You go through and pick bits out that suit your mood". "So", said I. "Of the millions of books written, and trillions of books printed there's only one that has to be read differently from every other book"? "Yes" he said. "And that's the one that you base your religion on"? "Yes" he said. "Dumb ass"." J-Dub logic.. | |||
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"My wife re-found JW and went from kinky to wooden over night....AND no oral either way as seen as un-natural....WTF" Wow, bless ya...i didn't know that! | |||
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"Read a great quote recently... 'Religious wars are basically people killing each other over who has the better imaginary friend'. Best post on thread "Thanks...reading that quote was a real moment of clarity for me...brought so many things in to focus. | |||
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"OP did she the sister you shagged get banned too?" Yeah, and her family and friends deleted her. Apparently, her dad will talk to her now. | |||
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"OP did she the sister you shagged get banned too? Yeah, and her family and friends deleted her. Apparently, her dad will talk to her now." Are your family OK with you? It's all very sad | |||
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"there is a really fit lady who canvasses in my local town. what is there attitude to sex . ?? i heard they dont give or take oral as its forbidden ??? " Masterbation is forbidden as is porn and anything else like it. No prostitutes or escorts. No dating sites or sex sites, swinging. No toys, no oral, no anal, even wearing sexy lingerie is forbidden. Kinks of any kind are out along with clothing that would go with them etc. Wear big pants and bras in plain colours you're good. Women aren't allowed to wear trousers for the door to door work or meetings. Strictly heterosexual everything else is unnatural and treated like its the work of Satan and not as God intended. No sex and nothing sexual (kissing and hugs allowed) before marriage or you get shunned (disfellowshipped) though you can only be disfellowshipped if you're baptised. | |||
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"Oh and BTW, I'm definitely done for when it's armageddon time. On the sex side alone I've sinned way beyond their ideals
"Come back to the flock god is all forgiving oh and don't forget the study on a Tuesday night. | |||
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"Like with all religions they're very nice to you at first and then comes all the bits they don't tell you about " a bit like a cult, really. | |||
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"Oh and BTW, I'm definitely done for when it's armageddon time. On the sex side alone I've sinned way beyond their ideals
Come back to the flock god is all forgiving oh and don't forget the study on a Tuesday night. "Over my dead body! | |||
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