FabSwingers.com forum: Can they stop the virus in china?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

Ye stop eating their food .. drastic measures for drastic times

oh I do love a Chinese

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I think I have it today

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Genuinely, I don't know I'm not a disease control expert.

15 dead people seems like a very small fraction of the world population compared to how many people die on the world's roads, from domestic violence, knife crime, heart disease, cancer etc not to mention war.

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

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By *owdyboy 890Man
over a year ago

Country West

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?"

Up to 41 now so it's rising fast x

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?"

Confirmed cases in France

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

Its 15 now but can easily rise to 30 by tomorrow. I think people are more worried about it spreading as a pandemic. Cant relly compare that to people dying in road accidents as the tide can turn very quickly.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Its 15 now but can easily rise to 30 by tomorrow. I think people are more worried about it spreading as a pandemic. Cant relly compare that to people dying in road accidents as the tide can turn very quickly. "

You're right.

What can us ordinary people do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's got to the US, France and Portugal because they didn't declare it at the time so didn't control travel ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every year the flu kills upto 56000 people.

I wouldn't worry about it so much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s horrendous , as with all the other illnesses that kill people

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

You're right.

What can us ordinary people do? "

I dont think there is anything we can do other than keep up with our own hygiene. Wash hands, cover mouth etc. I was living on the Piccadilly line near Heathrow when the Ebola epidemic hit. Two of the confirmed UK Ebola cases passed right through my yard without me knowing. Same with the Norovirus. Had two or three co-workers and a mate get struck down with that. Its not worth panicking over untill theres actual cuase.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

The thing that gives me pause for thought is the building of a 1000 bed hospital in two weeks. Even in a populous country like China that is quite a feat.

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

Just seen on Twitter that its only just been declared an emergency in China

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

this Corona virus "is it frothy man "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like everything else that's made in China, it wont last long

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

People need to understand the reason why the authorities are panicking.

This thing can jump species like nothing else, it can seemingly find a host wherever it desires.

It's rare some think it might be a human made virus!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just seen on Twitter that its only just been declared an emergency in China"

Terrible isn't it and started before Christmas!

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I’m still waiting for bird flu to wipe us all out and the millennium bug

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m still waiting for bird flu to wipe us all out and the millennium bug

Dont forget SARS and Ebola

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"I’m still waiting for bird flu to wipe us all out and the millennium bug

Dont forget SARS and Ebola "
exactly scaremongering again what ever happened to mad cows disease

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As trump says there is no call for alarm

So who actually believe him

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's a virus, so can readily mutate. I think at present it's likely to be a bigger problem in China than here and it's possible that more could get it from animals there.

With luck, it will be contained and won't spread much, nor get chance to mutate. But it could jump from animals again to China in future, if it does mutate, especially if it becomes more easily transmissable.

Would you fly to China now? Its got a very low infection rate but I'd probably be too chicken and cancel my flights. It's certainly a higher risk to catch it there atm

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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport

I would look to see if military lab near by (tin foil hat)

As to death's, this is china, will be alot more than that, but with media lock down....

Still, as others have said, flu kills, this is no different (unless as above)

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By *ylvie 888Woman
over a year ago

Cleethorpes

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?"

It said on the news that this country said there is no fear from this virus. If it comes here we, as a country, can manage it - have the means to prevent or control. Based on that WHY arent WE as a country helping prevent further deaths in another country! Are we allowing this illness and deaths to continue and spread?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51245680

41 dead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As trump says there is no call for alarm

So who actually believe him"

Actually I do, we have a virus scare on a near yearly basis. Give it a month or 2 and everyone would have forgot about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it the new swine flu/bird flu?

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

That's the thing it's unpredictable, it would be nothing like all the recent flu outbreaks. But if it turns into a pandemic like spanish flu in 1920 a lot of us will be done for.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like everything else that's made in China, it wont last long "

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over a year ago

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?"

The requirements for a pandemic (a disease that has spread globally) are pretty simple:

1. It must be antigenically novel i.e. it's a new virus to which there has been no exposure previously and, therefore, no immunity exists in the general population.

2. It must cause severe disease. This can include a severe inflammatory response which affects individuals without any pre-exisiting co-morbidities i.e. they are young and otherwise healthy.

3. It must transmit easily from human to human.

If you want to really shake things up, add in:

A relatively long incubation period during which an infected individual, who does not display symptoms, can shed the virus and transmit it to others.

A virus that only requires a low number of viral units to cause infection i.e. it is highly infective.

A virus that does not rapidly degrade in the environment e.g. on surfaces, in the air.

A virus that is capable of antigenic drift allowing it to come back for a second strike on those individuals who developed initial immunity. This, also, makes the development of a vaccine difficult.

A virus that can jump to a second, or third, animal species creating an infective reservoir.

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over a year ago

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

A local newspaper is running a story about a mum telling people not to worry about the coronavirus as her son had it here back in December. He was treated in Alderhey.

Coronavirus is an umbrella term.

I know it's 'sensational news' and I feel for anyone that is trapped or directly suffering.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

They also said that the virus spreads without the synthoms shows the synthoms are fever, dry cough and shortness of breath so 3 things to look out for.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?

The requirements for a pandemic (a disease that has spread globally) are pretty simple:

1. It must be antigenically novel i.e. it's a new virus to which there has been no exposure previously and, therefore, no immunity exists in the general population.

2. It must cause severe disease. This can include a severe inflammatory response which affects individuals without any pre-exisiting co-morbidities i.e. they are young and otherwise healthy.

3. It must transmit easily from human to human.

If you want to really shake things up, add in:

A relatively long incubation period during which an infected individual, who does not display symptoms, can shed the virus and transmit it to others.

A virus that only requires a low number of viral units to cause infection i.e. it is highly infective.

A virus that does not rapidly degrade in the environment e.g. on surfaces, in the air.

A virus that is capable of antigenic drift allowing it to come back for a second strike on those individuals who developed initial immunity. This, also, makes the development of a vaccine difficult.

A virus that can jump to a second, or third, animal species creating an infective reservoir."

As noted by someone who clearly knows his viruses

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The 1920 Spanish Flu killed about 50 million people.

More than died in World War 1.

I don't share the humour around this. The same people cracking jokes will be the first to blame the government

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"They also said that the virus spreads without the synthoms shows the synthoms are fever, dry cough and shortness of breath so 3 things to look out for."

These are symptoms of many viruses. If I had them I wouldn't immediately think I had corona virus.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They also said that the virus spreads without the synthoms shows the synthoms are fever, dry cough and shortness of breath so 3 things to look out for.

These are symptoms of many viruses. If I had them I wouldn't immediately think I had corona virus. "
That is right as other viruses have the same so yes it is hard to know if you have this virus or not.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

As was pointed out on TV this morning, more people have died from flu this winter than Coronavirus. It's probably nasty if you're old or your immune system is compromised but it seems most are getting over it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pirbright institute has the patent for this virus.

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

It's just like SARS, Ebola, swine flu and bird flu. Big scares if you ask me.

I remember when everyone was being diagnosed with swine flu by unqualified professionals on a helpline with a tick list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So far 15 people have died, have the virus spread out of control and could it reach the west?"

No way they can control that

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