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"That's awful the hear but what did you honestly expect?. I didn't expect her to be waiting in a wheel chair with a tube up her nose for so many hours. " Sadly it's a very busy time of year. There's not enough staff or beds at the best of times. Hopefully your mum will get better soon. | |||
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"Sadly our nhs is grossly underfunded. My mum has got MS. The other day she had a fall at home, landed awkwardly on her leg. My dad and sister couldn’t get her up and we’re concerned about any damage to the leg. They phoned for an ambulance, waited 2.5 hours! Fortunately for mum, there wasn’t any serious injury and the ambulance staff were able to patch her up and get her off the floor and comfortable at home. I hope your mum gets settled in a bed soon and recovers quickly " The NHS is (satisfactorily funded) if they cut down on the amount of managers and bureaucratic departments they would be more money for treatments That sad I think I can say for everyone bad time to hear about yours and ops mums Hope they both feel better soon. | |||
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"The NHS is (satisfactorily funded) if they cut down on the amount of managers and bureaucratic departments they would be more money for treatments " It's really not. Funding has been cut or frozen year on year for the last decade. Is there waste? Yes, of course there is. Could savings be made? Quite possibly. Are there too many managers and bureaucrats? I dunno - There's a lot of paperwork involved in managing the healthcare needs of an entire country. In any case, a lot of the bureaucracy is forced onto departments by the same people who cut the funding. It's almost as if they want it to fail... | |||
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"The NHS is (satisfactorily funded) if they cut down on the amount of managers and bureaucratic departments they would be more money for treatments It's really not. Funding has been cut or frozen year on year for the last decade. Is there waste? Yes, of course there is. Could savings be made? Quite possibly. Are there too many managers and bureaucrats? I dunno - There's a lot of paperwork involved in managing the healthcare needs of an entire country. In any case, a lot of the bureaucracy is forced onto departments by the same people who cut the funding. It's almost as if they want it to fail... " I would agree with lots of those point including is the NHS being stitched up... Probably Funding towards the NHS has been high for a long time. Billions where thrown at by Labour alot of that wasted on managers and consultantcy rather than front life staff and equipment. You might enjoy this... https://youtu.be/0ukbJKWwCYM Some interesting comments amongst the usually dirge | |||
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"That's awful the hear but what did you honestly expect?. I didn't expect her to be waiting in a wheel chair with a tube up her nose for so many hours. " I hope she gets well soon lovely xxxxxx | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this " Hopefully one will become available soon.x | |||
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" The NHS is (satisfactorily funded) if they cut down on the amount of managers and bureaucratic departments they would be more money for treatments " That's just rhetoric being regurgitated. The number of NHS hospital beds has more than halved over the last 30 years, while the population has increased. More people needing care in fewer and fewer beds leads to cases like the OP. | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this " Oh no! So sorry to hear about your Mum Can't comment on what is going on with the NHS but I hope she isn't waiting much longer | |||
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" The NHS is (satisfactorily funded) if they cut down on the amount of managers and bureaucratic departments they would be more money for treatments That's just rhetoric being regurgitated. The number of NHS hospital beds has more than halved over the last 30 years, while the population has increased. More people needing care in fewer and fewer beds leads to cases like the OP. " "Population has increased" From what time period if you are referring from labour's period of power uk population has nudge up a couple of million Of that how much of them require (hospitalisation) more people need care? old people and required care, that is is not the same as needkbg a bed in AE Your are claim this is rhetoric whilst providing no evidence. I'm all for reasoned debate and even learning something. Misinformation is another thing. There is no one size fits all but the size of the management in the NHS is way to big. Not unlike most big organisations | |||
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"Thanks everyone and sorry about your troubles. She's been given a stretcher now. " Glad to hear things moved on OP It's tough but think some else must have really need it just as much as your mum for her to wait that long | |||
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" Anyone that needs seeing urgently is seen to" I disagree, 18 months and still no appointment for my daughter, severe autism, Tourettes, psychosis, functional neurological disorder, 11 attempts to take her own life in the last 18 months, all because her medication is no longer effective. All I get told is you're in a queue and will have to wait. And she's going down hill at a rapid rate, she'll either kill herself or end up being sectioned again because they failed to help her. | |||
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" Anyone that needs seeing urgently is seen to I disagree, 18 months and still no appointment for my daughter, severe autism, Tourettes, psychosis, functional neurological disorder, 11 attempts to take her own life in the last 18 months, all because her medication is no longer effective. All I get told is you're in a queue and will have to wait. And she's going down hill at a rapid rate, she'll either kill herself or end up being sectioned again because they failed to help her." That’s horrific. Sorry for you all | |||
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" Anyone that needs seeing urgently is seen to I disagree, 18 months and still no appointment for my daughter, severe autism, Tourettes, psychosis, functional neurological disorder, 11 attempts to take her own life in the last 18 months, all because her medication is no longer effective. All I get told is you're in a queue and will have to wait. And she's going down hill at a rapid rate, she'll either kill herself or end up being sectioned again because they failed to help her." Psych services are particularly strained. It's awful. | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this " Is your mum OK xxxx | |||
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"my neighbour was taken to a&e and had to wait 16 hours for a bed a few weeks ago " 16 hours would be a miracle in a lot of hospitals over here. More like days rather than hours here - regardless of age, which is just cruel. | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this " We moved from the S.East last year & this week has been our first need for A&E (on Drs advice) for our daughter (12) who only has one kidney due to having cancer when younger. We hope it’s the last. One & a half hours for an ambulance. Back in Essex the first thing they’d do is go for bloods. This didn’t happen for ten hours even after we’d told them she’d kept little down including water for two days. As soon as the cannula went in & the blood didn’t flow the Dr said “Have you been drinking properly” at that point I’d had enough & ripped into them asking whether they actually bothered to read the notes given them? Up to that point she was given no more than Calpol & apple squash which she immediately threw up. So they just left her an hour & tried again & she threw up again. Eventually they gave up & put a drip in after I bit their heads off. Now seeing as she’s been ten years with one kidney she’s obviously been ill before. Back in Essex simply because she has one kidney & it needs protecting the first thing they do is bloods then it’s straight onto a saline drip to keep her hydrated. Here it was almost like they didn’t want to spend anymore than was absolutely necessary instead of giving the patient the best possible care. It has left rather a sour taste tbh. I hope your mum is now sorted for a bed & hope her stay in will be as short as possible. & before anyone says “It’s not the people working in it” I know, but the two similar scenarios (& illnesses) with massively different treatments doesn’t just come from “available funding”. S | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this Is your mum OK xxxx" Yes thanks. I was talking to her earlier. | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this Is your mum OK xxxx Yes thanks. I was talking to her earlier. " Great xx | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this We moved from the S.East last year & this week has been our first need for A&E (on Drs advice) for our daughter (12) who only has one kidney due to having cancer when younger. We hope it’s the last. One & a half hours for an ambulance. Back in Essex the first thing they’d do is go for bloods. This didn’t happen for ten hours even after we’d told them she’d kept little down including water for two days. As soon as the cannula went in & the blood didn’t flow the Dr said “Have you been drinking properly” at that point I’d had enough & ripped into them asking whether they actually bothered to read the notes given them? Up to that point she was given no more than Calpol & apple squash which she immediately threw up. So they just left her an hour & tried again & she threw up again. Eventually they gave up & put a drip in after I bit their heads off. Now seeing as she’s been ten years with one kidney she’s obviously been ill before. Back in Essex simply because she has one kidney & it needs protecting the first thing they do is bloods then it’s straight onto a saline drip to keep her hydrated. Here it was almost like they didn’t want to spend anymore than was absolutely necessary instead of giving the patient the best possible care. It has left rather a sour taste tbh. I hope your mum is now sorted for a bed & hope her stay in will be as short as possible. & before anyone says “It’s not the people working in it” I know, but the two similar scenarios (& illnesses) with massively different treatments doesn’t just come from “available funding”. S" Sorry to hear that. | |||
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" Anyone that needs seeing urgently is seen to I disagree, 18 months and still no appointment for my daughter, severe autism, Tourettes, psychosis, functional neurological disorder, 11 attempts to take her own life in the last 18 months, all because her medication is no longer effective. All I get told is you're in a queue and will have to wait. And she's going down hill at a rapid rate, she'll either kill herself or end up being sectioned again because they failed to help her." I'm so sorry to hear this, I hope somehow she manages to get the treatment she needs ASAP xxxx | |||
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" Your are claim this is rhetoric whilst providing no evidence. I'm all for reasoned debate and even learning something. " In 1991, the population of England was 48 million. In 2018, it was 55 million. In the same period, the number of NHS hospital beds has more than halved. You do the maths. | |||
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" The NHS is (satisfactorily funded) if they cut down on the amount of managers and bureaucratic departments they would be more money for treatments That's just rhetoric being regurgitated. The number of NHS hospital beds has more than halved over the last 30 years, while the population has increased. More people needing care in fewer and fewer beds leads to cases like the OP. " This! And we told them this would happen. They told us more people would be treated in the community and they would make improveme he to social care to free up beds. It would almost be funny if it wasn't such a dire situation. So many operations get cancelled each day due to their not being a bed for them afterwards. A whole theatre staffed and ready to operate but cancelled due to no beds! | |||
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"Sorry to hear of anyone's problems in getting the help they need when they need it from all areas of the NHS As a personal plea though - for everyone of us who works in the system- we do honestly work terribly hard to do the best we can do. I worked near enough an extra 5 hrs after my shift should've ended yesterday - I wont get paid for it. I may get some of those hours back but realistically I prob wont Snap,reason we all work for the NHS is we want to care for other people,and despite the very challenging conditions atm,that's what we do... " | |||
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"How is your mum this morning op? " Okay thanks. They still haven't found a bed but atleast she has a stretcher. | |||
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"How is your mum this morning op? Okay thanks. They still haven't found a bed but atleast she has a stretcher." Which is more than many who have been waiting. I haven't been to a hospital for years and I never remember it like this. | |||
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"How is your mum this morning op? Okay thanks. They still haven't found a bed but atleast she has a stretcher." That's so awful! I really feel for you all. I hope she gets a bed soon. I'm sure they are doing all that they can. | |||
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"How is your mum this morning op? Okay thanks. They still haven't found a bed but atleast she has a stretcher. That's so awful! I really feel for you all. I hope she gets a bed soon. I'm sure they are doing all that they can. " Yes the staff are brilliant. | |||
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"My mother has been waiting in hospital for a bed since 12:30 pm today. Its 9 pm now and still no bed. I didn't expect it to be like this " Last weekend i waited 22 hours for a hospital bed to become vacant for me.. in the end i discharged myself | |||
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