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"Yes. End of thread. " they probably cause most accidents | |||
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"Cruise control on at 70 at 5am....it’s amazing how poor peoples driving discipline is in general. Try it if you ever find yourself on the motorway at such an hour." | |||
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"No, we stay there to overtake the half dead in the slow lane and only go into the fast lane to piss off the Audis who think 72 mph is good for the fast lane. Fair's fair. Gotta have a laugh somewhere, right?" You do know there is no such thing as a slow or fast lane? Only one lane and two over taking lanes. And thats why we have MLM's | |||
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"I'm perplexed at what really pulled the driving standards here down to such a low level. " Some of it is this so called slow/fast lane thing. Once you overtake everyone should be in the inside lane. People belive its safer to stay in the middle, even when they are a hazard. People are sheep, they see others do it and do the same. Poor driver awareness and skills. Meh No one is perfect, and we forget lessons as we get older and get in a routine. | |||
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"No, we stay there to overtake the half dead in the slow lane and only go into the fast lane to piss off the Audis who think 72 mph is good for the fast lane. Fair's fair. Gotta have a laugh somewhere, right? You do know there is no such thing as a slow or fast lane? Only one lane and two over taking lanes. And thats why we have MLM's " It is also not illegal to undertake as long as you are not breaking the speed limit & not constantly lane stopping. I do it all the time on less busy motorways & times. S | |||
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"No, we stay there to overtake the half dead in the slow lane and only go into the fast lane to piss off the Audis who think 72 mph is good for the fast lane. Fair's fair. Gotta have a laugh somewhere, right? You do know there is no such thing as a slow or fast lane? Only one lane and two over taking lanes. And thats why we have MLM's " 72 mph is also breaking the speed limit and could get you done for speeding!! Anyone driven on the m25 recently? All 4 lanes are driving lanes apparently and you're lucky to get over 50mph in some parts | |||
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"No, we stay there to overtake the half dead in the slow lane and only go into the fast lane to piss off the Audis who think 72 mph is good for the fast lane. Fair's fair. Gotta have a laugh somewhere, right? You do know there is no such thing as a slow or fast lane? Only one lane and two over taking lanes. And thats why we have MLM's 72 mph is also breaking the speed limit and could get you done for speeding!! Anyone driven on the m25 recently? All 4 lanes are driving lanes apparently and you're lucky to get over 50mph in some parts " Spend more of my time on the m25 than I’d like to. The smart motoway systems fo work. Sadly they don’t seem to have improved people’s Lane discipline when it’s in full flow | |||
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"Yes. End of thread. " Along with the non indicator using bmw brigade | |||
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"people that really should be shot are the tits with ridiculously bright LED headlights that dont understand what the leveler thumbwheel is for. " if you have hid lights there is no adjustment, it's automatic, it has to be by law, but I do agree, they don't work very well | |||
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"Yes. End of thread. " Hell yes, red mist time with them!!! | |||
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"No, we stay there to overtake the half dead in the slow lane and only go into the fast lane to piss off the Audis who think 72 mph is good for the fast lane. Fair's fair. Gotta have a laugh somewhere, right? You do know there is no such thing as a slow or fast lane? Only one lane and two over taking lanes. And thats why we have MLM's 72 mph is also breaking the speed limit and could get you done for speeding!! Anyone driven on the m25 recently? All 4 lanes are driving lanes apparently and you're lucky to get over 50mph in some parts Spend more of my time on the m25 than I’d like to. The smart motoway systems fo work. Sadly they don’t seem to have improved people’s Lane discipline when it’s in full flow" Problem with all widened motorways (4 lane) like sections of the M25 is that they didn’t ban HGV’s from the third lane & they should have done.. S | |||
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"Problem with all widened motorways (4 lane) like sections of the M25 is that they didn’t ban HGV’s from the third lane & they should have done.. S" Absolutely this! | |||
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"And the plonkers that think their day running lights have them covered at night. Seen plenty driving about with no rear lights on. " Also this. | |||
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"No, we stay there to overtake the half dead in the slow lane and only go into the fast lane to piss off the Audis who think 72 mph is good for the fast lane. Fair's fair. Gotta have a laugh somewhere, right? You do know there is no such thing as a slow or fast lane? Only one lane and two over taking lanes. And thats why we have MLM's " Amazing the amount of people who dont understand how lanes work | |||
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"There are times I could go full on michael Douglas (falling down) But to be honest I'm sure I make other drivers feel the same way The middle lane is all mine!! MINE I TELL YOU!! " I'll hold them down you lot can have a field day | |||
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"There are times I could go full on michael Douglas (falling down) But to be honest I'm sure I make other drivers feel the same way The middle lane is all mine!! MINE I TELL YOU!! " D FENS! | |||
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"I'm not "undertaking" you... I just safely ignoring you. If I can pass you on the inside lane, you're clearly doing something wrong. It shouldn't be possible." Is undertaking illegal? I always thought the police would pull you for it. However, people on motoring forums say it isn’t actually. I know it’s ok when lanes of traffic are slowing. | |||
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"I'm not "undertaking" you... I just safely ignoring you. If I can pass you on the inside lane, you're clearly doing something wrong. It shouldn't be possible. Is undertaking illegal? I always thought the police would pull you for it. However, people on motoring forums say it isn’t actually. I know it’s ok when lanes of traffic are slowing. " I *think* I know it's not. But it's not even a case of pulling out infront of them... if I'm 30, 50, 200m ahead of them before I change lanes again, they are irrelevant to my driving. | |||
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"Yes. End of thread. " Absolutely!!! You can undertake them or overtake them by moving from inside lane to outside and back using indicators and they still carry oblivious - grrrrrrrrrr!! lol | |||
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"I'm perplexed at what really pulled the driving standards here down to such a low level. " poor instruction | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. " Well you're wrong. Practise doing better. the ONLY time this is fine is in bad weather. It was pissing down driving back from a club on Saturday night on the M6, and after aquaplaning a couple of times I felt the middle lane was the legitimately safest place to be. Past that, hell no. | |||
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"I'm perplexed at what really pulled the driving standards here down to such a low level. poor instruction " No, I think they were always the same, possibly even getting better. I wasn't taught any motorway driving, and given I lived at least an hour from any Motorway, could never have done so realistically. | |||
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"I'm perplexed at what really pulled the driving standards here down to such a low level. poor instruction No, I think they were always the same, possibly even getting better. I wasn't taught any motorway driving, and given I lived at least an hour from any Motorway, could never have done so realistically." I agree, the driving test is way harder than it was back in the day. That said i think like everything these days there is a degree of teaching by rote, rather than getting people to think for themselves. As a driver you need to be able to think not just sit behind a wheel and follow a process | |||
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"Can we also kill truck drivers that decide its a good idea to overtake the truck in front driving at 55, while they're flat out at 55.5mph, uphill, fully laden on a dual carriagway or 2 lane motorway during busy periods....which takes about 2 miles to complete? It will save me the hassle of pulling in front of them at the bottom of the next hill and gradually reducing my speed to around 50 in revenge " I know your pain | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. Well you're wrong. Practise doing better. the ONLY time this is fine is in bad weather. It was pissing down driving back from a club on Saturday night on the M6, and after aquaplaning a couple of times I felt the middle lane was the legitimately safest place to be. Past that, hell no." Disagree with that lol. | |||
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"If I admit to being a middle lane hogger on the odd occasion, does that mean I need some form of punishment ? D x" I would be happy to dish it out to you lol | |||
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"Yes. End of thread. " As far as threads go this is a very obvious one. Of course they should get the death penalty, which would involve them trying to cross the motorway on foot blindfolded so they can’t see what’s coming. | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. " What happens when someone else above the speed limit (which they shouldn’t be) comes up in the inside lane (which they should be)? Potentially dangerous. | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. Well you're wrong. Practise doing better. the ONLY time this is fine is in bad weather. It was pissing down driving back from a club on Saturday night on the M6, and after aquaplaning a couple of times I felt the middle lane was the legitimately safest place to be. Past that, hell no. Disagree with that lol. " Lol whether you agree or not middle lane hogging is dangerous and against the law | |||
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"Yes. End of thread. they probably cause most accidents " Speeding, tail gating and drink driving does more so put them up 1st | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. Well you're wrong. Practise doing better. the ONLY time this is fine is in bad weather. It was pissing down driving back from a club on Saturday night on the M6, and after aquaplaning a couple of times I felt the middle lane was the legitimately safest place to be. Past that, hell no. Disagree with that lol. Lol whether you agree or not middle lane hogging is dangerous and against the law " Definitely not dangerous in road works at the speed limit for that section. Sitting at 80-85mph in the middle lane is not also a problem. Sitting at 70 or lower in the middle lane with nothing on the inside lane is without doubt poor driving. | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. Well you're wrong. Practise doing better. the ONLY time this is fine is in bad weather. It was pissing down driving back from a club on Saturday night on the M6, and after aquaplaning a couple of times I felt the middle lane was the legitimately safest place to be. Past that, hell no. Disagree with that lol. Lol whether you agree or not middle lane hogging is dangerous and against the law Definitely not dangerous in road works at the speed limit for that section. Sitting at 80-85mph in the middle lane is not also a problem. Sitting at 70 or lower in the middle lane with nothing on the inside lane is without doubt poor driving. " You may not see it as a problem but it's illegal lol The middle lane is for over taking, if you're not over taking you shouldnt be crusing in the middle lane. | |||
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"For me it’s fine to sit in the middle lane if you are above the speed limit or at the limit in road works and outside lane free of traffic. Well you're wrong. Practise doing better. the ONLY time this is fine is in bad weather. It was pissing down driving back from a club on Saturday night on the M6, and after aquaplaning a couple of times I felt the middle lane was the legitimately safest place to be. Past that, hell no. Disagree with that lol. Lol whether you agree or not middle lane hogging is dangerous and against the law Definitely not dangerous in road works at the speed limit for that section. Sitting at 80-85mph in the middle lane is not also a problem. Sitting at 70 or lower in the middle lane with nothing on the inside lane is without doubt poor driving. You may not see it as a problem but it's illegal lol The middle lane is for over taking, if you're not over taking you shouldnt be crusing in the middle lane. " Depends on the distance people are in front of you and the speed you are going. Keep swapping lanes inside to outside I see often is clearly more dangerous that knowing the speed difference and not swapping lanes. | |||
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"Depends on the distance people are in front of you and the speed you are going. Keep swapping lanes inside to outside I see often is clearly more dangerous that knowing the speed difference and not swapping lanes. " Tuning out and sitting in the middle, especially on cruise control lowers your situational awareness. Effective lane changing keeps drives more alert and engaged in the traffic flows. | |||
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"Depends on the distance people are in front of you and the speed you are going. Keep swapping lanes inside to outside I see often is clearly more dangerous that knowing the speed difference and not swapping lanes. Tuning out and sitting in the middle, especially on cruise control lowers your situational awareness. Effective lane changing keeps drives more alert and engaged in the traffic flows." Lol it’s that’s what you believe good for you lol | |||
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