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"After the shit that happened last year my self worth was very low. But now it's on an all time high. It'll take someone a long time and a lot of effort to change that again Lessons have been learned " Very very very similar! | |||
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"99% of the time it's very high. When It's not I just rude it out. I don't consciously guard it against outside factors I'm just very lucky that I genuinely only care what my loved ones think of me. My father is the same, although he has taken it to extremes in his old age. I don't know if you meant this for people who don't have issues with self worth though and I'm sorry if you didn't." I think it's for everybody! Those who struggle and those who don't. Because not struggling might be a temporary state. | |||
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"Quite good and I’m very quick to leave folk who don’t treat me how I believe I should be treated. " , I think that's key. | |||
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"Its very high. I erased all negative people out my life and apart from family and friends dont care less what anyone else thinks of me" That is a key step removing the negative people even if they are family. That is tough for me. | |||
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"I think self worth and self love are very different. Also depending on your experience with relationships (even friends and family) can have a huge influence on your self worth. " Absolutely. | |||
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"Mine goes up and down a lot. I find it takes ages to build it up and something small can knock it back down again pretty quick. Thankfully at the moment things are good. " There is an app Arkeo that helps you track it. It is developing so more functionality to come from the little I know. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. " It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general). | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general)." I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? | |||
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"Mine goes up and down a lot. I find it takes ages to build it up and something small can knock it back down again pretty quick. Thankfully at the moment things are good. There is an app Arkeo that helps you track it. It is developing so more functionality to come from the little I know." I’ll check it out, thank you. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general).I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? " Neutral. Depends on how they interact with you, at least for me. Do they drag you up or bring you down? Do they support or criticise you for your issues ("you should just be more like me!" yeah, can't, cheers) | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general).I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? " I find it can do both, you compare yourself to family and friends in their life positions and you can feel yours doesn’t match up. | |||
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"My self worth is never validated by anyone else, Confidence might have been crushed a few times but not my self worth " This. There are few people whose opinion of me actually matters to me. I could count them on one hand and not run out of fingers. My self-worth is high although my confidence fluctuates wildly in different areas of my life. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general).I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? I find it can do both, you compare yourself to family and friends in their life positions and you can feel yours doesn’t match up. " As with anything in life; comparison is the thief of joy, it's why social media can have such a detrimental effect on mental health. I do my absolute best to never compare my journey with anyone else's as you never, ever know the full story. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. " It's the how do we guard against it hardening us up to others I struggle with. And what if one person can can devalue you but also build up at the same time. Suck a conflict! I fear I've already stopped letting people in and created a protective bubble that's hard to come out of. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's the how do we guard against it hardening us up to others I struggle with. And what if one person can can devalue you but also build up at the same time. Suck a conflict! I fear I've already stopped letting people in and created a protective bubble that's hard to come out of. " Cynicism is bloody tempting and probably unhelpful | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general).I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? Neutral. Depends on how they interact with you, at least for me. Do they drag you up or bring you down? Do they support or criticise you for your issues ("you should just be more like me!" yeah, can't, cheers)" Ah yes. I understand that. There's a fine line between encouragement and lack of understanding or empathy. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general).I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? I find it can do both, you compare yourself to family and friends in their life positions and you can feel yours doesn’t match up. " So for you self worth depends on life position? | |||
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" It's the how do we guard against it hardening us up to others I struggle with. And what if one person can can devalue you but also build up at the same time. Suck a conflict! I fear I've already stopped letting people in and created a protective bubble that's hard to come out of. " I know exactly what you mean. It's safe and you can't get hurt in the bubble but at the same point, it limits you from having a meaningful connection with anyone. I made the conscious decision to not let the shitty behaviour of others limit my life. I think that it's important to remember that others treating you badly is a reflection of them, not you. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's the how do we guard against it hardening us up to others I struggle with. And what if one person can can devalue you but also build up at the same time. Suck a conflict! I fear I've already stopped letting people in and created a protective bubble that's hard to come out of. Cynicism is bloody tempting and probably unhelpful " It's desperately unhelpful. Cynicism is the side effect of being on fab though. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's the how do we guard against it hardening us up to others I struggle with. And what if one person can can devalue you but also build up at the same time. Suck a conflict! I fear I've already stopped letting people in and created a protective bubble that's hard to come out of. Cynicism is bloody tempting and probably unhelpful It's desperately unhelpful. Cynicism is the side effect of being on fab though. " Not just Fab for me. Hey ho. My experience would lend itself to making me cynical. I'm not wired like that and wish I were. | |||
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"I think it's hard. Self worth is obviously based on your own value of yourself but it's hard not to let outside influences/other people affect that. We're naturally social creatures and the actions of those close to us can hurt our personal value. How do we guard against that without becoming hardened to others? It's a balance I think. I'm sure there's a line here about being fluid like water or like a tree in the wind; bending but not breaking. After a tough few years, Im very careful about the people that I let close to me and who's opinion I allow to count. It's incredibly hard, and I know this all too well. It's taken me a very long time to build a base line. There's fluctuation around that depending on external factors but the core remains. Knowing who to trust is particularly key in a place like this (and in general).I Does being around people with good self worth help or hinder? I find it can do both, you compare yourself to family and friends in their life positions and you can feel yours doesn’t match up. So for you self worth depends on life position?" It’s not the only thing but it is part of it health, family, friends, career, it all comes into it. | |||
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"Virtually nonexistent. It's a hard fight trying to rebuild when so many people let you know you're worth nothing to them. They can't all be wrong... can they?" Large groups of people are known to have made very poor decisions, throughout history. Maybe consider those who you are listening or paying attention to | |||
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"What's your self worth like? How do you build it? How do you guard it against outside factors (people, events) and make it about you? (Don't need to reveal anything too deep here, obviously this could be very personal. Worth thinking about and discussing. Always relevant on Fab!)" I have an extremely low opinion of myself, worthless and unnecessary is how I see myself. Mr | |||
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"Virtually nonexistent. It's a hard fight trying to rebuild when so many people let you know you're worth nothing to them. They can't all be wrong... can they? Large groups of people are known to have made very poor decisions, throughout history. Maybe consider those who you are listening or paying attention to " Ultimately your strongest ally is you. | |||
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"Virtually nonexistent. It's a hard fight trying to rebuild when so many people let you know you're worth nothing to them. They can't all be wrong... can they?" Of course they can. If people don’t take the time to get to know you and how you tick then they never get to see the real you. If they don’t get to see the real you (when you’ve let your guard down and let people in) then they’re not going to appreciate you and all your quirks. You have to believe you’re a bloke worth knowing. You have a lot to give, you have a lot to offer. You have to learn to love yourself first. Realise what an interestingly unique person you are. Easier said than done I know. | |||
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"What's your self worth like? How do you build it? How do you guard it against outside factors (people, events) and make it about you? (Don't need to reveal anything too deep here, obviously this could be very personal. Worth thinking about and discussing. Always relevant on Fab!) I have an extremely low opinion of myself, worthless and unnecessary is how I see myself. Mr" You aren’t worthless or unnecessary but until you believe that, I don’t know if you’ll believe it from a stranger on the internet. | |||
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"wise words. I will bear them in mind the next time my boss tells me or makes me feel uncomfortable. " You have the power to tell your boss that he has no right to say things that he may be saying or to make you feel uncomfortable, of course, I don't know what's being said or what that person's attitude to you is, but if it's unacceptable, don't accept it. | |||
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"I have my own view of my self worth, it is currently low, but rising. Having been dropped, abandoned, let down, pushed away (you get the idea) by friends old and new I no longer let people close enough for me to care what their opinion of me is. There are people that only value you for as long as they gain from it. As soon as they no longer see a gain, you no longer have a value (to them). If enough people do that you start to see the pattern. " That's a problem with them, not a problem with you, I've gone through similair as yourself, I believed it was me, but it wasn't and isn't, I now appreciate and focus on those who stay and continue to value me, that's the positive I hold onto, you can do it also. | |||
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"I have my own view of my self worth, it is currently low, but rising. Having been dropped, abandoned, let down, pushed away (you get the idea) by friends old and new I no longer let people close enough for me to care what their opinion of me is. There are people that only value you for as long as they gain from it. As soon as they no longer see a gain, you no longer have a value (to them). If enough people do that you start to see the pattern. That's a problem with them, not a problem with you, I've gone through similair as yourself, I believed it was me, but it wasn't and isn't, I now appreciate and focus on those who stay and continue to value me, that's the positive I hold onto, you can do it also. " Absolutely. | |||
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"It's been shit. I've been feeling really low. But something changed yesterday and total I feel like I've got more self worth than I've had in a long time. It's made me re-evaluate things and realise that if something isn't helping my self worth then it's maybe not worth fighting for " That's so bloody true x | |||
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"I have my own view of my self worth, it is currently low, but rising. Having been dropped, abandoned, let down, pushed away (you get the idea) by friends old and new I no longer let people close enough for me to care what their opinion of me is. There are people that only value you for as long as they gain from it. As soon as they no longer see a gain, you no longer have a value (to them). If enough people do that you start to see the pattern. That's a problem with them, not a problem with you, I've gone through similair as yourself, I believed it was me, but it wasn't and isn't, I now appreciate and focus on those who stay and continue to value me, that's the positive I hold onto, you can do it also. Absolutely." Thanks. Yes that is the stance I have now taken. However it is currently the uphill battle of regaining the worth that was lost because of them. | |||
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"I have my own view of my self worth, it is currently low, but rising. Having been dropped, abandoned, let down, pushed away (you get the idea) by friends old and new I no longer let people close enough for me to care what their opinion of me is. There are people that only value you for as long as they gain from it. As soon as they no longer see a gain, you no longer have a value (to them). If enough people do that you start to see the pattern. That's a problem with them, not a problem with you, I've gone through similair as yourself, I believed it was me, but it wasn't and isn't, I now appreciate and focus on those who stay and continue to value me, that's the positive I hold onto, you can do it also. Absolutely. Thanks. Yes that is the stance I have now taken. However it is currently the uphill battle of regaining the worth that was lost because of them. " You've got this | |||
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"Every one needs to remember, it's OK to not be OK, how you feel today isn't how you might feel tomorrow, next week or next month etc No matter how you might feel, always reach it if you need to, don't ever be afraid to speak to someone. How others treat you is a reflection of thier worth, not your own, don't let anyone treat you any less that what you feel you deserve and keep in mind, when you reach your lowest, the only way is up. " How lovely | |||
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"I'm fortunate to have very good self esteem / self worth, on the whole. I have had the occasional dip in the past but have learnt how to deal with negative influences. Some people are just not healthy to be around and the way you manage their impact is important." Yes. And some people are good, but not good for you. | |||
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"I know what I'm worth..... About £1.37." With or without pocket fluff ? | |||
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"Every one needs to remember, it's OK to not be OK, how you feel today isn't how you might feel tomorrow, next week or next month etc No matter how you might feel, always reach it if you need to, don't ever be afraid to speak to someone. How others treat you is a reflection of thier worth, not your own, don't let anyone treat you any less that what you feel you deserve and keep in mind, when you reach your lowest, the only way is up. " It's a nice idea, but it's just not true. People are only ok with you not being ok if they don't have to see it. Anyone who can't fake happiness to an acceptable standard on demand is required to fuck off and stop spoiling the mood for everyone else. That's why I've run out of socials I can go to, I can't deal with people who only stop ignoring me to tell me to cheer up, or walk over and shout "SMILE!" in my face. | |||
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"Two quotes I had stuck to my wall at work... Learn to be in love with the person in the mirror, who has been through so much and is still standing and Self worth is vital to your HAPPINESS, if you don’t feel good about YOU, you can’t feel good about anything else " | |||
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"Every one needs to remember, it's OK to not be OK, how you feel today isn't how you might feel tomorrow, next week or next month etc No matter how you might feel, always reach it if you need to, don't ever be afraid to speak to someone. How others treat you is a reflection of thier worth, not your own, don't let anyone treat you any less that what you feel you deserve and keep in mind, when you reach your lowest, the only way is up. It's a nice idea, but it's just not true. People are only ok with you not being ok if they don't have to see it. Anyone who can't fake happiness to an acceptable standard on demand is required to fuck off and stop spoiling the mood for everyone else. That's why I've run out of socials I can go to, I can't deal with people who only stop ignoring me to tell me to cheer up, or walk over and shout "SMILE!" in my face." It's not about others acceptance, it's about your own, coming to understand why you aren't OK and finding what will change that, because only you can change that, it is possible but if you arent there yet, don't look to those that run when you need them, seek the support you need from the right person's or groups. Seek the help you need if you feel you do need it. | |||
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"Every one needs to remember, it's OK to not be OK, how you feel today isn't how you might feel tomorrow, next week or next month etc No matter how you might feel, always reach it if you need to, don't ever be afraid to speak to someone. How others treat you is a reflection of thier worth, not your own, don't let anyone treat you any less that what you feel you deserve and keep in mind, when you reach your lowest, the only way is up. It's a nice idea, but it's just not true. People are only ok with you not being ok if they don't have to see it. Anyone who can't fake happiness to an acceptable standard on demand is required to fuck off and stop spoiling the mood for everyone else. That's why I've run out of socials I can go to, I can't deal with people who only stop ignoring me to tell me to cheer up, or walk over and shout "SMILE!" in my face. It's not about others acceptance, it's about your own, coming to understand why you aren't OK and finding what will change that, because only you can change that, it is possible but if you arent there yet, don't look to those that run when you need them, seek the support you need from the right person's or groups. Seek the help you need if you feel you do need it. " One of the central issues causing my depression is loneliness and isolation, and the depression apparently makes me intolerable to be around. | |||
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"Every one needs to remember, it's OK to not be OK, how you feel today isn't how you might feel tomorrow, next week or next month etc No matter how you might feel, always reach it if you need to, don't ever be afraid to speak to someone. How others treat you is a reflection of thier worth, not your own, don't let anyone treat you any less that what you feel you deserve and keep in mind, when you reach your lowest, the only way is up. It's a nice idea, but it's just not true. People are only ok with you not being ok if they don't have to see it. Anyone who can't fake happiness to an acceptable standard on demand is required to fuck off and stop spoiling the mood for everyone else. That's why I've run out of socials I can go to, I can't deal with people who only stop ignoring me to tell me to cheer up, or walk over and shout "SMILE!" in my face. It's not about others acceptance, it's about your own, coming to understand why you aren't OK and finding what will change that, because only you can change that, it is possible but if you arent there yet, don't look to those that run when you need them, seek the support you need from the right person's or groups. Seek the help you need if you feel you do need it. One of the central issues causing my depression is loneliness and isolation, and the depression apparently makes me intolerable to be around." Have you maybe tried group therapy/support groups in your area? Being with people who feel the same as you do and getting together and talking? They’ll be aware of how you feel because they feel that way too. The trouble with normal socials is that they are full of people who are probably (usually) not depressed. People who are happy and out enjoying themselves just see someone sat not smiling and not joining in as someone who is being miserable, because they’re not aware of the bigger picture. That just makes you feel worse. | |||
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"Every one needs to remember, it's OK to not be OK, how you feel today isn't how you might feel tomorrow, next week or next month etc No matter how you might feel, always reach it if you need to, don't ever be afraid to speak to someone. How others treat you is a reflection of thier worth, not your own, don't let anyone treat you any less that what you feel you deserve and keep in mind, when you reach your lowest, the only way is up. It's a nice idea, but it's just not true. People are only ok with you not being ok if they don't have to see it. Anyone who can't fake happiness to an acceptable standard on demand is required to fuck off and stop spoiling the mood for everyone else. That's why I've run out of socials I can go to, I can't deal with people who only stop ignoring me to tell me to cheer up, or walk over and shout "SMILE!" in my face. It's not about others acceptance, it's about your own, coming to understand why you aren't OK and finding what will change that, because only you can change that, it is possible but if you arent there yet, don't look to those that run when you need them, seek the support you need from the right person's or groups. Seek the help you need if you feel you do need it. One of the central issues causing my depression is loneliness and isolation, and the depression apparently makes me intolerable to be around. Have you maybe tried group therapy/support groups in your area? Being with people who feel the same as you do and getting together and talking? They’ll be aware of how you feel because they feel that way too. The trouble with normal socials is that they are full of people who are probably (usually) not depressed. People who are happy and out enjoying themselves just see someone sat not smiling and not joining in as someone who is being miserable, because they’re not aware of the bigger picture. That just makes you feel worse. " I've done the therapy, can't find a support group in the area. There are just too many skills I never developed. | |||
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