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Rail fares is set to increase by 2.7%

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is it just me or do you also think how they can justify the increase? I dont see any improvement on the network whilst the prices is getting higher, here in london a one day travel card costs £12.70, how much does it cost where you live?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Don' even think about making any comparison with many European countries. With out doubt we are being "taken to the cleaners" !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I wonder how high they can increase the percentages with?

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

But there are hedge fund managers and stock brokers, down to their last tens of millions...don't be so heartless!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don' even think about making any comparison with many European countries. With out doubt we are being "taken to the cleaners" !!"

When you highlight the stark contrasts it is clear as day that we’re being taken to the cleaners. Northern rail regularly have canceled or delayed trains yet their passes are between 1-1.5k a year. Leeds to Manchester is absolutely abysmal for trains!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I've no idea how they can justify it. Probably because we're at their mercy without many other options. Imagine any other service being this shit and then trying to put their prices up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it just me or do you also think how they can justify the increase? I dont see any improvement on the network whilst the prices is getting higher, here in london a one day travel card costs £12.70, how much does it cost where you live?"

£26.30 for a London one for me. I always use my card on the tube thing now though. Don’t think there’s any difference. Someone did say it’s cheaper to do that but not sure if it is.

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Let's not forget that they increase the fares twice a year so they actually go up by approx 5% over the year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've no idea how they can justify it. Probably because we're at their mercy without many other options. Imagine any other service being this shit and then trying to put their prices up."

As you say, they don't have to justify it, as they have a captive market.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"But there are hedge fund managers and stock brokers, down to their last tens of millions...don't be so heartless!"
Yes it goes towards their wages not services.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've no idea how they can justify it. Probably because we're at their mercy without many other options. Imagine any other service being this shit and then trying to put their prices up."
That is right as we have to use the trains to commute.

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By *hezuMan
over a year ago

London

And they want people to use public transport instead of cars to lower pollution, if i'm paying the same as I would for petrol i'd rather have privacy and convenience..

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over a year ago

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

As a daily train user I begrudge the increase but really the fiver it has gone up each month for my pass is only a pint, and in that time I probably make 50 journeys and so it is only 10p a time.

Trains run on diesel and/or electricity. Have your electricity bills gone up? Is it costing you more to fill the car each time? Just one reason why prices have to rise. Also, did you get a pay rise at year end or financial year end? So did the drivers and conductors and all the other staff. Costs can't stay the same year on year.

Ooh but the profits just pays shareholders. Yep, and some of that could well be what your pension fund is invested in, and so benefitting you later in life.

Price rises are capped by the government, to stop them being too exorbitant, but they would still increase even if the whole system was renationalised I'm afraid.

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire


"As a daily train user I begrudge the increase but really the fiver it has gone up each month for my pass is only a pint, and in that time I probably make 50 journeys and so it is only 10p a time.

Trains run on diesel and/or electricity. Have your electricity bills gone up? Is it costing you more to fill the car each time? Just one reason why prices have to rise. Also, did you get a pay rise at year end or financial year end? So did the drivers and conductors and all the other staff. Costs can't stay the same year on year.

Ooh but the profits just pays shareholders. Yep, and some of that could well be what your pension fund is invested in, and so benefitting you later in life.

Price rises are capped by the government, to stop them being too exorbitant, but they would still increase even if the whole system was renationalised I'm afraid. "

But some prices, especially long distance, are ridiculous and don't encourage people to use the train network, that could be looked into.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"As a daily train user I begrudge the increase but really the fiver it has gone up each month for my pass is only a pint, and in that time I probably make 50 journeys and so it is only 10p a time.

Trains run on diesel and/or electricity. Have your electricity bills gone up? Is it costing you more to fill the car each time? Just one reason why prices have to rise. Also, did you get a pay rise at year end or financial year end? So did the drivers and conductors and all the other staff. Costs can't stay the same year on year.

Ooh but the profits just pays shareholders. Yep, and some of that could well be what your pension fund is invested in, and so benefitting you later in life.

Price rises are capped by the government, to stop them being too exorbitant, but they would still increase even if the whole system was renationalised I'm afraid. "

All good loi ta but most people don't get a 3% pay rise each yeat

Least of all for making no improvement since the last.

The rail franchise contracts need a complete overhaul

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While I'd love to get the train more, the cost of some trips and the overall convenience just means it's much easy to simply drive.

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By *ezzelsMan
over a year ago

cheshire and north wales

There are many reasons for the cost of train travel in UK..including privatising and decentralisation of services..Victorian infrastructure, the shear cost of maintenance and track cleaning..they can only work.a few hours each night before heading tracks back, env costs and energy costs, shareholder models, lack of joined up thinking, ..still...I juts paid 303 quid for a return to London from Chester...and 400 quid for a flight to Dubai..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it just me or do you also think how they can justify the increase? I dont see any improvement on the network whilst the prices is getting higher, here in london a one day travel card costs £12.70, how much does it cost where you live?"

So firstly London has by far the best public transport network in England and TFL is run separate from the rest of England

Secondly your not seeing any improvement in the most heavily invested area in England?

London has the highest investment per person 5-6x some other areas

How would you feel if you are living in an area with poor public transport that doesn't get much investment or improvements yet still have to pay the price rises for them to be spent elsewhere?

Unfortunately the element of public transport is that it really does require and depend on investment and today we are all having to pay for the under investment of the past mainly form the Thatcher era and the work of Dr Beeching (worth a Google) and the division of British Rail

Public transport can often be a cheap way of travelling

Short distance fairs are usually subsidised by local councils at individual rates but long distances are not and this is why long distance train tickets are extremely expensive

Buying in advance, split ticketing, traveling off peak or rail cards can often save you alot of money and worth considering

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"There are many reasons for the cost of train travel in UK..including privatising and decentralisation of services..Victorian infrastructure, the shear cost of maintenance and track cleaning..they can only work.a few hours each night before heading tracks back, env costs and energy costs, shareholder models, lack of joined up thinking, ..still...I juts paid 303 quid for a return to London from Chester...and 400 quid for a flight to Dubai.."

The £ 303 Chester London must be First Class....???

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By *opinovMan
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

By contrast - in Germany, rail fares are being reduced by 10% ... nothing to do with being state owned of course.

As for rail in the UK, much is foreign owned by foreign governments who are able to channel considerable profits (from British tickets) back into their own national infrastructure... they are their own single shareholders... but God forbid we do anything sensible like that here coz that would be socialism, and we don't like that do we?

Fuck sake, we really do deserve the self-inflicted shit we wallow in!

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