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"Im in agreement, nothing wrong with a hello how are you, i find the war and peace type first messages off putting but guess everyone is different " It is all about preference. I agree with you, no need for war and peace in a first message that may not be welcomed by the recipient | |||
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"We've just received a message that just said "Hey" What is the point. The only good thing is that you don't have to bother opening it before blocking and deleting." Agreed that is hard to progress but maybe a similar response (just a hiya) may encourage greater conversations?? | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it." Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged?" Oh, I've had messages go unread, been deleted and all sorts. You have to appreciate that this is how this site works. Think of all those takeaway menus that get shoved through your door. Someone might have spent a lot of time designing it, and 9 times out of 10, they'll end up in the bin. | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged?" This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life. | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life." River deep please read as I hadn’t claimed women to be anything. If I have please let me know so that I can amend. Cheers | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they need to put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it." This | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life." Ignorance is definitely bliss with some people, my thoughts were much the same lol | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life. River deep please read as I hadn’t claimed women to be anything. If I have please let me know so that I can amend. Cheers" "Or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged?" Care to explain how this is not calling someone thick? | |||
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"We've just received a message that just said "Hey" What is the point. The only good thing is that you don't have to bother opening it before blocking and deleting." Tbh I dont really mind that Call me superficial but it’s looks I go for on here (physical sexual attraction) so better someone doesn’t spend ages typing a message for no reason in my eyes. If I like the pics that ‘hey’ could turn into a lot more | |||
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""Hi" is the most unimaginative, generic message possible. If that's how somebody is going to start, how much effort are they going to put in after that? This isn't us sitting in a pub and somebody is able to walk past us and say hi to try and start a conversation. This is a place where we have written a profile, given our names (at least pseudonyms) and put up photos. If you like that then respond to it. "Hi" can be sent to 10,000 0eople and it tells us nothing. Often profiles are devoid of information too. If somebody can't be bothered with anything more to even attempt to pique our interest then we're not interested. To use the pub analogy, it's like using a microphone to say "Hi" to everybody in the pub and being surprised that most people just carry on with whatever they are doing without paying any attention to it. " I love that analogy | |||
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"If a profile says,don't me message me with a hi or a hello,and you find this unacceptable,then don't message them,it's not rocket science. What's the problem?" Indeed. I have real difficulty understanding why some people can't work this out, and instead want to complain as if it's these people with 'standards' that are ones with the problem. Kinda like those that come on asking how to get in touch with people whose age limits prevent them from messaging. | |||
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"If a profile says,don't me message me with a hi or a hello,and you find this unacceptable,then don't message them,it's not rocket science. What's the problem?" Very good point ^^ Personally I don't mind a "hello" type message as it is a very acceptable way to open a conversation, but I do check out their profile before replying, so if a "hello, how are you doing type" message is backed up with an interesting profile then I'll happily chat. Never understood the need for a novel type approach to first messages that people require. If you walked up to me in a pub and said all that I'd think you were a raving luny hahahahahahahaha | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life. River deep please read as I hadn’t claimed women to be anything. If I have please let me know so that I can amend. Cheers "Or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged?" Care to explain how this is not calling someone thick?" Not that I agree with the OP (we get dozens of messages like that and all ignored - the writer is hoping to join the most intimate part of our lives, the last they can do is demonstrate that they have taken the time to view our profile and shows how they believe we can all get on) but tbf to him the 'intellectual challenged' comment wasn't his, it was used in the reply he is quoting and he is asking if that sentiment applies elsewhere -not at all dating it is his opinion. | |||
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"I just read a profile that appears to be more common on this site. I don’t know if it’s a lot more common amongst one section of the site or others. My main search is usually for single women but I have seen these with couples profiles also. I’d imagine there are single male profiles like these too. They’re the ones that say. DO NOT contact me with a hello, a hi or good evening. Normally followed by I’m fine thanks or some other statement that rubbishes the art of conversation. I’m sticking my neck out by saying that every conversation has a start middle and end. If you are taking the time to write me a hello I’ll respond with a hi. It is not a friggin offence to greet a stranger with hello. Be that here, vanilla sites or the real world. Rant over enjoy 2020" thats true but the ones that highlight it get that message 30 times a day everyday and for the last 15 years | |||
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"I just read a profile that appears to be more common on this site. I don’t know if it’s a lot more common amongst one section of the site or others. My main search is usually for single women but I have seen these with couples profiles also. I’d imagine there are single male profiles like these too. They’re the ones that say. DO NOT contact me with a hello, a hi or good evening. Normally followed by I’m fine thanks or some other statement that rubbishes the art of conversation. I’m sticking my neck out by saying that every conversation has a start middle and end. If you are taking the time to write me a hello I’ll respond with a hi. It is not a friggin offence to greet a stranger with hello. Be that here, vanilla sites or the real world. Rant over enjoy 2020" That works as a good filter if you don't like it | |||
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"I just read a profile that appears to be more common on this site. I don’t know if it’s a lot more common amongst one section of the site or others. My main search is usually for single women but I have seen these with couples profiles also. I’d imagine there are single male profiles like these too. They’re the ones that say. DO NOT contact me with a hello, a hi or good evening. Normally followed by I’m fine thanks or some other statement that rubbishes the art of conversation. I’m sticking my neck out by saying that every conversation has a start middle and end. If you are taking the time to write me a hello I’ll respond with a hi. It is not a friggin offence to greet a stranger with hello. Be that here, vanilla sites or the real world. Rant over enjoy 2020" It does make things difficult, I am in agreement there are profiles like this which make you think how do you approach things? I generally still ask as long as the rest of the message has some structure and something else to it than just that. I guess the point is to not just say those two things? | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life. River deep please read as I hadn’t claimed women to be anything. If I have please let me know so that I can amend. Cheers "Or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged?" Care to explain how this is not calling someone thick? Not that I agree with the OP (we get dozens of messages like that and all ignored - the writer is hoping to join the most intimate part of our lives, the last they can do is demonstrate that they have taken the time to view our profile and shows how they believe we can all get on) but tbf to him the 'intellectual challenged' comment wasn't his, it was used in the reply he is quoting and he is asking if that sentiment applies elsewhere -not at all dating it is his opinion. " It would appear that he did not fully understand my comments, because I wasn't for one moment, suggesting anyone was thick with my 'intellectually challenged' comment that he appears to have taken completely put of context when he copied it. I was simply making an observation about first impressions, and how someone may get completely the wrong idea about someone based simply on the effort they have put into a first message. If I get a simple 'hey' or 'hello', I don't form an opinion of the senders intellectual capability, but what such a message does tell me is that the lack of effort demonstrated in their message would indicate that they probably haven't read even bothered to read my profile and that, even if I were to respond, the conversation would likely grind to a halt fairly quickly. | |||
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"Im in agreement, nothing wrong with a hello how are you, i find the war and peace type first messages off putting but guess everyone is different " Agreed. The long messages are usually copied and paste to all. I’ve had the same message sent several times by the same guys. At first I thought, oh great a guy that puts an effort in. Then they’ve not replied or ignored my thank you but you’re not for us and sent the same message! Lol The hello ones gives them an ‘in’ and gives you a chance to read up on their profile and pics before deciding to send an hello reply! | |||
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"Yeah nothing wrong with just saying hello " There is if the profiler you wish to say hello to, specifically asks you not to. | |||
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"I think the point that the OP, and many single men on here, miss is that everyone is different and has different preferences to how they are approached, similarly not everyone will find an attraction to you enough to want to reply. So ultimately why worry about those that won't meet you? Better to focus on those who you *do* align with surely? If someone states in their profile that they don't like a "Hi, how are you?" type message - you have two choices - either don't message them, or send a message that is more than that - it really *is* that simple. Similarly if you don't get a reply having sent a message, accept it and move on - again it really is that simple." see aint he a great dude well done forum pops | |||
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"I just read a profile that appears to be more common on this site. I don’t know if it’s a lot more common amongst one section of the site or others. My main search is usually for single women but I have seen these with couples profiles also. I’d imagine there are single male profiles like these too. They’re the ones that say. DO NOT contact me with a hello, a hi or good evening. Normally followed by I’m fine thanks or some other statement that rubbishes the art of conversation. I’m sticking my neck out by saying that every conversation has a start middle and end. If you are taking the time to write me a hello I’ll respond with a hi. It is not a friggin offence to greet a stranger with hello. Be that here, vanilla sites or the real world. Rant over enjoy 2020" If the message just says hello or hi it goes in the bin. If it says hello or hi and there's actually a message that follows we'll read it. Assuming the sender has read our profile of course. If they haven't (99% of the time) it goes in the bin or gets a sarcastic reply. We look at the profile first and on rare occasions give a second chance. But it's rare..... | |||
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"We've just received a message that just said "Hey" What is the point. The only good thing is that you don't have to bother opening it before blocking and deleting. Tbh I dont really mind that Call me superficial but it’s looks I go for on here (physical sexual attraction) so better someone doesn’t spend ages typing a message for no reason in my eyes. If I like the pics that ‘hey’ could turn into a lot more " | |||
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"If a profile says,don't me message me with a hi or a hello,and you find this unacceptable,then don't message them,it's not rocket science. What's the problem? Indeed. I have real difficulty understanding why some people can't work this out, and instead want to complain as if it's these people with 'standards' that are ones with the problem. Kinda like those that come on asking how to get in touch with people whose age limits prevent them from messaging. " I find it standard to say hello to people. I’m no bard and would most definitely struggle to construct wordy intros 100% of the time. I’m one of those whose standards must be questioned as I’m a sucker for a sexy body. However, I appreciate others preferences. Whilst you find it annoying that I would post a question like this it is so that I can get better understanding. I hope that hasn’t put your nose too far out of joint? | |||
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"I think the point that the OP, and many single men on here, miss is that everyone is different and has different preferences to how they are approached, similarly not everyone will find an attraction to you enough to want to reply. So ultimately why worry about those that won't meet you? Better to focus on those who you *do* align with surely? If someone states in their profile that they don't like a "Hi, how are you?" type message - you have two choices - either don't message them, or send a message that is more than that - it really *is* that simple. Similarly if you don't get a reply having sent a message, accept it and move on - again it really is that simple." Agree with most points. I wonder if it a single guy issue. As I said originally I only notice things on the profiles that I search for. I’m sure there are single men profiles that bear the same, I just couldn’t account for those | |||
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" What frustrates me more though is when women are unable to hold a conversation and give very short responses. I'd rather no response if you're not interested. " That's a two way street though and is just two people finding they're not aligned or compatible, it's no different from normal life - some people you come across you'll exchange a few words with and that'll be it, others you'll "click" with and the conversation will flow and you'll be friends for life - on here is no different | |||
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"I get a fair few "hi" or "you alright" messages each day - I tend to reply with an emoji and keep replying with a single emoji until such time as they either converse properly or disappear... Hi Hows you? Enjoying the site? Good Xmas? What you into? Why don't you talk? And so forth! If they can't string a sentence together then neither do I " Agreed. I would hope that if you had have responded the sender would open up the conversation by assuming that your response would be a signal of interest to finding out more about the person. Unless the opening conversation was acknowledged with a definite no towards their approach. | |||
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"Hi OP If we get just a one word message, we will tend to view the profile (if there actually is one), read their bio and then have a quick nosey at their pics. If they are of interest we will say a polite hi back, if not then it will either be a sorry not for us or if it’s a blank profile a straight, block / delete." | |||
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"I think the point that the OP, and many single men on here, miss is that everyone is different and has different preferences to how they are approached, similarly not everyone will find an attraction to you enough to want to reply. So ultimately why worry about those that won't meet you? Better to focus on those who you *do* align with surely? If someone states in their profile that they don't like a "Hi, how are you?" type message - you have two choices - either don't message them, or send a message that is more than that - it really *is* that simple. Similarly if you don't get a reply having sent a message, accept it and move on - again it really is that simple. Agree with most points. I wonder if it a single guy issue. As I said originally I only notice things on the profiles that I search for. I’m sure there are single men profiles that bear the same, I just couldn’t account for those" I think it's a single guy issue to have an issue with it - because of the number imbalance here and because a lot of single guys have the wrong expectations of the site, it's mostly single men who struggle to find the right balance and approach. I'd imagine very few single men would put "don't send a hi" type thing in their profile because most are so desperate to get attention any attention that a simple "hi" would be welcomed. | |||
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"I'm afraid that I can totally understand why people feel the need to put such comments on their profiles. Writing a message should be thought of in the same way as one might have wriiten a letter around a century ago. Put what you want to say into it. Try and engage the reader. Unfortunately, a lot of people are of the assumption that, because communication is electronic, and therefore delivery virtually instant, that they are somehow engaged in a live conversation - which, of course, is not the case. If someone wishes to capture my interest, they needto put more than just one or two words, or it's going to be deleted, and I may have formed a completely wrong impression of the sender, in thinking that they may be somewhat intellectually challenged and, lets's face it, first impressions count, and you only get one chance to make it. Thank you for your balanced response. I assume you’re someone who has confidence in the way he speaks/dictates letters and mails. I question how you feel when a well written, perfectly structured opening email is deleted. Does that not make you feel bad to know that someone didn’t appreciate your effort or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged? This is hilarious! So now ladies are thick if they don't reply?! Get a grip. They may just not fancy you, be innundated with messages or be too busy with real life. River deep please read as I hadn’t claimed women to be anything. If I have please let me know so that I can amend. Cheers "Or do you question whether the recipient is somewhat intellectually challenged?" Care to explain how this is not calling someone thick? Not that I agree with the OP (we get dozens of messages like that and all ignored - the writer is hoping to join the most intimate part of our lives, the last they can do is demonstrate that they have taken the time to view our profile and shows how they believe we can all get on) but tbf to him the 'intellectual challenged' comment wasn't his, it was used in the reply he is quoting and he is asking if that sentiment applies elsewhere -not at all dating it is his opinion. It would appear that he did not fully understand my comments, because I wasn't for one moment, suggesting anyone was thick with my 'intellectually challenged' comment that he appears to have taken completely put of context when he copied it. I was simply making an observation about first impressions, and how someone may get completely the wrong idea about someone based simply on the effort they have put into a first message. If I get a simple 'hey' or 'hello', I don't form an opinion of the senders intellectual capability, but what such a message does tell me is that the lack of effort demonstrated in their message would indicate that they probably haven't read even bothered to read my profile and that, even if I were to respond, the conversation would likely grind to a halt fairly quickly." Thank you for clarifying that the comment was not made by me. Like some took offence to that quote. | |||
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"I think the point that the OP, and many single men on here, miss is that everyone is different and has different preferences to how they are approached, similarly not everyone will find an attraction to you enough to want to reply. So ultimately why worry about those that won't meet you? Better to focus on those who you *do* align with surely? If someone states in their profile that they don't like a "Hi, how are you?" type message - you have two choices - either don't message them, or send a message that is more than that - it really *is* that simple. Similarly if you don't get a reply having sent a message, accept it and move on - again it really is that simple. Agree with most points. I wonder if it a single guy issue. As I said originally I only notice things on the profiles that I search for. I’m sure there are single men profiles that bear the same, I just couldn’t account for those I think it's a single guy issue to have an issue with it - because of the number imbalance here and because a lot of single guys have the wrong expectations of the site, it's mostly single men who struggle to find the right balance and approach. I'd imagine very few single men would put "don't send a hi" type thing in their profile because most are so desperate to get attention any attention that a simple "hi" would be welcomed." Again I agree and thank you for your comment. I don’t know if some men on here write this on their profile. I wouldn’t as it restricts the opportunity to get to know some of the great people I have from Fab. | |||
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