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"I don’t believe anything anyone says when they message me until proved otherwise." This completely!! T | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? " I've not come across liars as such but very negative people yes | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X " He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over. | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over." Thanks, I won't | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over." Sounds like something you encountered | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? " An insult ? Why do you feel insulted ? | |||
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"I don’t believe anything anyone says when they message me until proved otherwise." Me neither! | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over. Sounds like something you encountered " Fear the Beard.......... | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " Maybe they went to bed, and stayed online.... | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " hey some show online all the time if they dont log out and leave laptop on its a common misconception | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over. Sounds like something you encountered Fear the Beard.......... " And the bread | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " oooooooo How do you KNOW they were online? Serious Question | |||
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"It's a pity when people see themselves as having such a lack of anything positive to offer that they need to make stuff up. The only way to genuinely resolve that is to get out and grab life by the balls, challenge yourself, get a job that gives you the feel-good factor. Help others less fortunate or just achieve something! It gives you plenty to talk about without having to feel like you're bragging, but enables you to be a great person to know. We can all do that........and while you're at it be a version of you that you like, which people will get positive vibes from, both on Fab and in the rest of your life! Feeling good about yourself is better than any drug!! " Yes it really is. I was telling Prince Phillip exactly that this morning in MY big car. | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. hey some show online all the time if they dont log out and leave laptop on its a common misconception " I know. I've got up a couple of times and thought ....... fuck it looks like ive been in here all night ..... and I haven't , I haven't , I haven't ..... | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. oooooooo How do you KNOW they were online? Serious Question " Might have looked at their pics a little bit | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over. Sounds like something you encountered Fear the Beard.......... And the bread " I do t have any..... | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. " Okay. Next Question........... Have you ever met him ? | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. oooooooo How do you KNOW they were online? Serious Question Might have looked at their pics a little bit " Don't blush. That's what they are there for xx | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over. Sounds like something you encountered Fear the Beard.......... And the bread I do t have any....." You got any buns then ? | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. Okay. Next Question........... Have you ever met him ? " Not yet | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. " You sound like a control freak. | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. Okay. Next Question........... Have you ever met him ? Not yet " So you don't really know him at all well. | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. You sound like a control freak." I'm really not. | |||
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"You look like the type of girl to have an healthy anus on you X He means well. Just don't turn your back or bend over. Sounds like something you encountered Fear the Beard.......... And the bread I do t have any..... You got any buns then ?" None of those either, I’m going to have to settle for beans on plate.... | |||
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"It's a pity when people see themselves as having such a lack of anything positive to offer that they need to make stuff up. The only way to genuinely resolve that is to get out and grab life by the balls, challenge yourself, get a job that gives you the feel-good factor. Help others less fortunate or just achieve something! It gives you plenty to talk about without having to feel like you're bragging, but enables you to be a great person to know. We can all do that........and while you're at it be a version of you that you like, which people will get positive vibes from, both on Fab and in the rest of your life! Feeling good about yourself is better than any drug!! Yes it really is. I was telling Prince Phillip exactly that this morning in MY big car. " | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. You sound like a control freak. I'm really not. " I don't think you are either. Insecure maybe but not a control freak. | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? " It's the Internet ffs.... You already know how much people you actually know lie on FB, Insta, etc., about their amazing lives, their 'just woke up' with a full make-up and artfully tousled hair photos, and how sticking a new 'cause' badge on their profile pics there every week makes them seem socially conscious, charitable and deserving of sainthoods.... So why would you be surprised that a stranger would lie on Fab? I'm not saying everyone lies all the time about everything... Just to accept it as a reality that folk may not always be telling the complete truth. | |||
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"What lies? You mean I'm not the most stunning woman those guys have ever seen? Nah, the lies don't bother me, they're usually quite obvious. " What?????!!! You mean I don't have the best ass on Fab?! | |||
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"Lying about going off line isn't great but isn't the worst kind of lies I've encountered here. It's an annoyance I agree but at least it's not a married man saying he's single " I've had much much worse. I'm just this as an example. | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? It's the Internet ffs.... You already know how much people you actually know lie on FB, Insta, etc., about their amazing lives, their 'just woke up' with a full make-up and artfully tousled hair photos, and how sticking a new 'cause' badge on their profile pics there every week makes them seem socially conscious, charitable and deserving of sainthoods.... So why would you be surprised that a stranger would lie on Fab? I'm not saying everyone lies all the time about everything... Just to accept it as a reality that folk may not always be telling the complete truth." A lie can break a heart And can tear you apart A lie so grievous can place you in the dock But most on FAB tell porkies about the size of their cock A lie can bring about a pregnant hiatus Particularly about ones marital status There are little white lies of no concern And those when told in hell you will burn But on FAB there are no lies to be told Moreover manipulation of the truth if I maybe so bold But in this plastic hall in which we tread About lies sufficient has been said So take everything with a pinch of salt So the resultant situation is not your fault | |||
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"The place is full of lies and perversion- it’s actually an under cover training ground for the Tory party " Here again Boris ? | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? It's the Internet ffs.... You already know how much people you actually know lie on FB, Insta, etc., about their amazing lives, their 'just woke up' with a full make-up and artfully tousled hair photos, and how sticking a new 'cause' badge on their profile pics there every week makes them seem socially conscious, charitable and deserving of sainthoods.... So why would you be surprised that a stranger would lie on Fab? I'm not saying everyone lies all the time about everything... Just to accept it as a reality that folk may not always be telling the complete truth." Like this! No one has a perfect life. We're all jealous to some degree when we see some rich, beautiful, famous clothes-horse. Apart from being stood up or ghosted by the odd single woman or couple I don't think I've encountered a single woman who appeared to be anything less than themselves. | |||
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"I like it the forum is comedy gold " Shag | |||
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"The secret is to not take anything seriously " Shall I take that seriously ? OMG What do I do now ??? | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. Maybe they went to bed, and stayed online.... " As immoral acts go, I'm not convinced this is the worst lie ever told and you're unaware of the circumstances of his bedroom activity. | |||
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"The secret is to not take anything seriously Shall I take that seriously ? OMG What do I do now ???" | |||
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"Some people lie about their age and sexual orientation it's disgusting" I know. Like some young straight guy had it on his profile that he wasn't young and he wasn't straight. | |||
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"Whilst I agree that the deceptions that can exist on sites like this are many and varied I wonder if we don’t, collectively breed such behaviour. This site has changed as has the lifestyle and as such as we have become more confident or assured in what we desire. We have created lists of what people must be, what they must look like and how they must behave. We have set strict rules on what their situation must be, and demand proof at every turn Now there is nothing wrong with this but in doing so we have created numerous barriers. It is these barriers that breed the lies as people seek to negotiate their way round them. For example consider a profile written that says. “Looking for uninhibited sexual fun, must accommodate” only one lie could be told. Now consider “looking for single male between 30-40, must accommodate, prefer regular play partner, must feel the same, fit and healthy, intelligent and sensual, good body and manhood”, quite a lot of lies could be told. The argument would be “well I am clear what I want”, yes this is true but we may actually breed deception. The response to the first profile could be “hi, I can accommodate, I’m married but get the house to myself occasionally”, you could then delete or block as the messenger had no need to lie as your profile did not demand it, whereas responding to the second scenario, depending on their situation they are more likely to lie and thus deceive you into meeting then. Difficult one for sure. But perhaps sometimes the way we write our desires or profiles actually encourages deception. Perhaps the more you know, the less you show is the right way forward. Long post, waffles and I am not claiming I am right, just a musing, nothing more. " I see what you're saying and in part I agree but I think you're looking in the wrong direction. The emphasis isn't on the deceived to make life easier, it should be on the deceiver to be less so. People are perfectly entitled to ask for what they want, it 'should be' that people are honest, although of course people will always lie where sex is involved. | |||
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"Some people lie about their age and sexual orientation it's disgusting I know. Like some young straight guy had it on his profile that he wasn't young and he wasn't straight. " Fab is full of lies & deceit | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " LMAO You do know you can take this internet thingy to bed with you? Right? | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. hey some show online all the time if they dont log out and leave laptop on its a common misconception I know. I've got up a couple of times and thought ....... fuck it looks like ive been in here all night ..... and I haven't , I haven't , I haven't ....." omg liar liar liar pants on fire | |||
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"Some people lie about their age and sexual orientation it's disgusting I know. Like some young straight guy had it on his profile that he wasn't young and he wasn't straight. " | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. LMAO You do know you can take this internet thingy to bed with you? Right?" It's in a little box isn't it | |||
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"Thought it times out after 5 mins none activity maybe he nudged his phone" Maybe his battery died and then the battery fairy that had seen him being nice to the poor destitute frozen battery factory workers gave him a new battery whilst he slept .....awwwwww | |||
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"Was offline before he showed as online though. Okay. Next Question........... Have you ever met him ? Not yet " He might of been in bed but browsing , couldn’t sleep, didn’t wanna chat, jeeeeez is that a rabbit I can smell on the boil ? | |||
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"We don't log out so it always looks like we're on line & we use multiple devices & we access our account at different times & different places from each other. Doesn't necessarily mean we are actively on the site. " This Also, if I want to have a break from chatting then I'll be having a nosey on the forum instead. If someone starts getting narky about stuff like that, then they soon find themselves blocked. | |||
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"I don’t believe anything anyone says when they message me until proved otherwise." Yep, I'm just as cynical. Prob more so since my bullshit radar failed to pick up on ex. | |||
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"We don't log out so it always looks like we're on line & we use multiple devices & we access our account at different times & different places from each other. Doesn't necessarily mean we are actively on the site. This Also, if I want to have a break from chatting then I'll be having a nosey on the forum instead. If someone starts getting narky about stuff like that, then they soon find themselves blocked." Exactly. I’d say about one in ten times that I log on I look at messages. I just go on the forums. Hardly ever look at messages. I probably look really ignorant but I honestly forget to look. | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? I've not come across liars as such but very negative people yes " Maybe cos you're not looking for single men? | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " I'm often online in bed. Also, if you don't log out, you're "online" for longer than you are. | |||
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"I don’t believe anything anyone says when they message me until proved otherwise." Bingo, We have a winner OP, Set filters, Block everyone & then use the site as you wish. You’ve hidden your profile, Take a break for a while if you need to, come back if you want to. We did & starting to get jaded now again now, but the site isn’t going to change so you either have to change the way you use it, change your expectations or leave really. Best Wishes S&H | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " That's been petty | |||
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"It's a pity when people see themselves as having such a lack of anything positive to offer that they need to make stuff up. The only way to genuinely resolve that is to get out and grab life by the balls, challenge yourself, get a job that gives you the feel-good factor. Help others less fortunate or just achieve something! It gives you plenty to talk about without having to feel like you're bragging, but enables you to be a great person to know. We can all do that........and while you're at it be a version of you that you like, which people will get positive vibes from, both on Fab and in the rest of your life! Feeling good about yourself is better than any drug!! " I def need to grab some balls this year, mwahahaha | |||
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"We don't log out so it always looks like we're on line & we use multiple devices & we access our account at different times & different places from each other. Doesn't necessarily mean we are actively on the site. " I too do this... I use the mobile desktop rather than the app, so sometimes when I'm just opening Chrome to check a bus/cinema timetable, order groceries, or other such humdrum things, my browser will open on Fab because it's the last thing I viewed the day before and I forgot to hit 'home' before I closed the browser. I've had those annoying 'but you were online!' accusations in the past where someone got tetchy with me for not replying immediately to messages... It never ends well. | |||
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" I see what you're saying and in part I agree but I think you're looking in the wrong direction. The emphasis isn't on the deceived to make life easier, it should be on the deceiver to be less so. People are perfectly entitled to ask for what they want, it 'should be' that people are honest, although of course people will always lie where sex is involved. " I agree but that isn’t the way the world works, give people more opportunity to be truthful than deceitful and they will take it, lies are complicated. Unrealistic expectations and hoop infested profiles will always breed lies and in response those that have been deceived being unhappy or hurt. By complicating our narrative and making explicit demands on realistic or unrealistic expectations we are single-handedly responsible for the manner in which people engage us. You can either give them the tools to deceive you or you can give them the opportunity to be open and honest. But again maybe I just view things from strange angles | |||
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"Wow. I'm now bunny boiler. Not a control freak. I'm just finding it hard to trust anyone with happened to me recently. I was completely and massively lied to. Now every little thing is bugging me as I dont want a repeat." That was meant to say no bunny boiler | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " Minor, We have three phones, two laptops & two tablets, At anytime at least one is usually logged on. I was on last night in bed (insomnia) & my phone went flat while looking at the forum so O slung it on the floor & tried to go back to sleep. I guess I stayed logged on all night then? S | |||
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"Going to bed and going to sleep are different. I wouldn't get too angry about it." And could have quite easily changed his mind and returned online without thinking he needed to inform the OP. | |||
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"People here lie as much as they do everywhere else i've found. It's unfortunate you've become jaded to the point of immediately mistrusting anything messaged your way Not everything people tell you are lies and i'm sure a number of genuine compliments come your way. It's separating the chaff from the wheat that becomes challenging. If your experience here in rooted in constant suspicion, how can it be a good one? " I'd agree with this. Take some time to find the positive again on here - good people do exist. If I feel particularly disheartened, I take a break. That helps. | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? " Yup you get them all on here why can’t people just tell the truth lies are such a killer and so obvious to | |||
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"The online thing, sometimes I go to bed but wake and look at my phone have a quick glance at wats app or fab and go back off again so it may not be a lie. But yes lots do lie here, as they do everyehere. I am not very good at the trust things these days. It has to be earned" My thoughts exactly but they are not universal thoughts. I got told I wasn't compatible with someone because I couldn't trust him (as a conscious decision). We'd only exchanged some messages over a spate of an hour. | |||
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"Wow. I'm now bunny boiler. Not a control freak. I'm just finding it hard to trust anyone with happened to me recently. I was completely and massively lied to. Now every little thing is bugging me as I dont want a repeat." But what is it you're hoping will happen with this guy? Are you looking for a relationship with someone? Why does it matter if he was online? | |||
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"Wow. I'm now bunny boiler. Not a control freak. I'm just finding it hard to trust anyone with happened to me recently. I was completely and massively lied to. Now every little thing is bugging me as I dont want a repeat. But what is it you're hoping will happen with this guy? Are you looking for a relationship with someone? Why does it matter if he was online? " I don't mean that to sound harsh, I just genuinely don't understand what the issue is. | |||
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" I see what you're saying and in part I agree but I think you're looking in the wrong direction. The emphasis isn't on the deceived to make life easier, it should be on the deceiver to be less so. People are perfectly entitled to ask for what they want, it 'should be' that people are honest, although of course people will always lie where sex is involved. I agree but that isn’t the way the world works, give people more opportunity to be truthful than deceitful and they will take it, lies are complicated. Unrealistic expectations and hoop infested profiles will always breed lies and in response those that have been deceived being unhappy or hurt. By complicating our narrative and making explicit demands on realistic or unrealistic expectations we are single-handedly responsible for the manner in which people engage us. You can either give them the tools to deceive you or you can give them the opportunity to be open and honest. But again maybe I just view things from strange angles " I see your point, I really do but I think the onus is on people to be honest. What you're saying is somewhat akin to saying that people in short skirts 'ask for' assault. The blame should always lie with the deceiver not the deceived. | |||
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"It's a pity when people see themselves as having such a lack of anything positive to offer that they need to make stuff up. The only way to genuinely resolve that is to get out and grab life by the balls, challenge yourself, get a job that gives you the feel-good factor. Help others less fortunate or just achieve something! It gives you plenty to talk about without having to feel like you're bragging, but enables you to be a great person to know. We can all do that........and while you're at it be a version of you that you like, which people will get positive vibes from, both on Fab and in the rest of your life! Feeling good about yourself is better than any drug!! I def need to grab some balls this year, mwahahaha " A guy should be so lucky! What a smile!!!! | |||
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"Wow. I'm now bunny boiler. Not a control freak. I'm just finding it hard to trust anyone with happened to me recently. I was completely and massively lied to. Now every little thing is bugging me as I dont want a repeat." Then assume lies until proved otherwise. Just as a temp safety net. | |||
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"Wow. I'm now bunny boiler. Not a control freak. I'm just finding it hard to trust anyone with happened to me recently. I was completely and massively lied to. Now every little thing is bugging me as I dont want a repeat." If this is your current frame of mind, perhaps it would be better for you to take a time out and step back for a bit. Time really does wonders to help heal some wounds. Regardless of what type of relationship you're looking for here, your inability to trust and focus on inconsequential details won't bring you any positive results i'm afraid | |||
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"It's a pity when people see themselves as having such a lack of anything positive to offer that they need to make stuff up. The only way to genuinely resolve that is to get out and grab life by the balls, challenge yourself, get a job that gives you the feel-good factor. Help others less fortunate or just achieve something! It gives you plenty to talk about without having to feel like you're bragging, but enables you to be a great person to know. We can all do that........and while you're at it be a version of you that you like, which people will get positive vibes from, both on Fab and in the rest of your life! Feeling good about yourself is better than any drug!! I def need to grab some balls this year, mwahahaha A guy should be so lucky! What a smile!!!! " Oh they will be lucky - I have lost time to make up for | |||
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"The lies are just ridiculous. I find it such an insult! Anyone else feel like this or just utterly amazed at some of the lies people come out with? I've not come across liars as such but very negative people yes Maybe cos you're not looking for single men? " well true but although some single men obviously let us down one still has to believe the genuinely nice guys are still out there and not prejudge based on the baddies | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. " What is wrong with that? What a strange thing to get worked up about. We let people live their lives how they wish and we live our lives how we like to. Try it sometime....you may be pleasantly surprised. | |||
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"Wow. I'm now bunny boiler. Not a control freak. I'm just finding it hard to trust anyone with happened to me recently. I was completely and massively lied to. Now every little thing is bugging me as I dont want a repeat. But what is it you're hoping will happen with this guy? Are you looking for a relationship with someone? Why does it matter if he was online? I don't mean that to sound harsh, I just genuinely don't understand what the issue is. " I was thinking the same, OP have you met or just chatting? If it’s just chatting & getting along maybe even asking f meeting then you may not be the only one he/they/she is chatting too? You want our undivided attention on Fab, Ok then you need to stop talking & meet us because we’ve learnt that until that happens assume it never will & that probably applies ten fold for single guys. S | |||
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"It's a pity when people see themselves as having such a lack of anything positive to offer that they need to make stuff up. The only way to genuinely resolve that is to get out and grab life by the balls, challenge yourself, get a job that gives you the feel-good factor. Help others less fortunate or just achieve something! It gives you plenty to talk about without having to feel like you're bragging, but enables you to be a great person to know. We can all do that........and while you're at it be a version of you that you like, which people will get positive vibes from, both on Fab and in the rest of your life! Feeling good about yourself is better than any drug!! I def need to grab some balls this year, mwahahaha A guy should be so lucky! What a smile!!!! Oh they will be lucky - I have lost time to make up for " Lol! Jealous - much! | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. What is wrong with that? What a strange thing to get worked up about. We let people live their lives how they wish and we live our lives how we like to. Try it sometime....you may be pleasantly surprised." People do seem to get hung up on minor details! I've chatted to some great people here, who then suddenly flip out on an insignificant comment, or if taken too long to reply, or minor details on my profile. I think a lot of people can't manage non-exclusivity well, or the fact that people have real lives outside of Fab. If that's the case, then Fab sadly isn't for you. But I do think the few genuine people here deserve the chance of more face-to-face meets to establish relationships/friendships. | |||
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" I see what you're saying and in part I agree but I think you're looking in the wrong direction. The emphasis isn't on the deceived to make life easier, it should be on the deceiver to be less so. People are perfectly entitled to ask for what they want, it 'should be' that people are honest, although of course people will always lie where sex is involved. I agree but that isn’t the way the world works, give people more opportunity to be truthful than deceitful and they will take it, lies are complicated. Unrealistic expectations and hoop infested profiles will always breed lies and in response those that have been deceived being unhappy or hurt. By complicating our narrative and making explicit demands on realistic or unrealistic expectations we are single-handedly responsible for the manner in which people engage us. You can either give them the tools to deceive you or you can give them the opportunity to be open and honest. But again maybe I just view things from strange angles I see your point, I really do but I think the onus is on people to be honest. What you're saying is somewhat akin to saying that people in short skirts 'ask for' assault. The blame should always lie with the deceiver not the deceived. I think that analogy is egregious to be perfectly honest and nullifies everything I have said with no defence and I find that insulting. People need to take responsibility for their actions both sides in this instance, you cannot expect the world to conform to a utopia that will/may never exist therefore, where possible you can/should control the way people interact with you, you may have to make sacrifices but that’s the nature of life, compromises are required. This in no way is true of the way people dress. Everyone has a right to express themselves without fear of assault and again, I find it abhorrent that you draw a parallel analogy. That’s me out. " I'm aware that I'm being something of an idealist in this situation and I did say that I agree with you to a point. I'm also not saying that you're agreeing with any form of assault. | |||
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"This place can make you cynical, OP. It must in a way. Sweating the small stuff is a recipe for insanity. I understand not being able to let it go. But if you can't, Fab will be very challenging for you. I'm sorry. " This. People lie, they just do, especially when the libido gets involved. I’ve never been bothered by it. Lies usually come from a place of insecurity or fear, a feeling like you have to present as something ‘other’ than yourself to please someone else. So I take the view that I should provide an environment where people feel secure enough not to need to lie to me and where they know they won’t be judged for having lied to me, and it usually eventually stops. Getting angry and upset about it is just counterproductive and reinforces their motive for deceptive behaviour. Realise that it is usually little to do with you and let it go. | |||
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"Regretting posting this massively. Find it hard to get my head around why people lie on a site such as this when ultimately we are all here because we something in particular. I get where decadent is coming from though, if you list you specifics then people may lie to get round them. And I get that. I'd much rather someone says they have other playmates and says when they're free than have someone say they are free and don't have others and make up excuses that are just really unbelievable and expect me to buy it. . I dont want to hear what people think I want to hear. I'd rather the honesty. At least I know where I am with that. Not looking for a relationship so I have no need to be bugged many things. Its just a case of if someone lies or isn't honest about the small tiny unimportant things then what else do they lie about or leave out. Like the tiny detail I posted about. Unimportant but could make you wonder. Say someone lies about their age, again unimportant in reality, but doesn't actually tell you their actual age for months on end, doesn't that just display a lie that they can keep and continue to do so and when you did find out, youre not bothered by the age but you're bothered by the fact they kept it hidden so long. " Don't feel bad for posting. From your other posts I get the impression you've had a bit of a rough time with someone who you thought you could trust. When you go through something like like and realise what you thought you had was just lies it distorts your view on things for a while. It can make you obsess on the little lies as you are hesitant to get caught out again. Be kind to yourself, take some time out if you need it and use this place however you want to xx | |||
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"I don't want a relationship. I dont want exclusivity either. I expect anyone I take an interest in or vice versa to have other playmates but I want is that they are honest about it. The recent thing where I got lied to etc.....he wanted exclusive, said all sorts of things and didn't like me me going near anyone else at all. Yet he was fucking someone else the whole time and had a couples profile with her on here. I'd just like the same honesty back as I give not games or lies or someone controlling me. Yet I've been called a bunny boiler and control freak on here. I'll unhide my profile so you can see what it says " Now you’ve I hid it, yes I would | |||
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"Best I leave I think. " Don't leave. Just take everything with pinch of salt on here. Learn what you want and meet the people you want. Don't get hung up on small details like people saying they went to bed. I often say goodnight to people on here and Could still be on here an hour later usually in the forums or chatting. And guys I meet and chat to are the same they are often online when they say they are heading to bed it's not a big deal as far as I'm concerned. As for the guys who tell me I'm the sexiest thing they have ever seen etc that just makes me laugh I see myself every morning I know I am far from model material. But you know I have fun with the people I meet and I have made some great friends. Just use here the way you want to and if you are genuinely unhappy here and it is causing you stress then hide your profile and take a break for a bit x | |||
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"Regretting posting this massively. Find it hard to get my head around why people lie on a site such as this when ultimately we are all here because we something in particular. I get where decadent is coming from though, if you list you specifics then people may lie to get round them. And I get that. I'd much rather someone says they have other playmates and says when they're free than have someone say they are free and don't have others and make up excuses that are just really unbelievable and expect me to buy it. . I dont want to hear what people think I want to hear. I'd rather the honesty. At least I know where I am with that. Not looking for a relationship so I have no need to be bugged many things. Its just a case of if someone lies or isn't honest about the small tiny unimportant things then what else do they lie about or leave out. Like the tiny detail I posted about. Unimportant but could make you wonder. Say someone lies about their age, again unimportant in reality, but doesn't actually tell you their actual age for months on end, doesn't that just display a lie that they can keep and continue to do so and when you did find out, youre not bothered by the age but you're bothered by the fact they kept it hidden so long. " Don't feel bad for posting, but maybe reconsider what you're looking for and be open from the outset? If this was a truly honest site, then everyone will be publicly posting their real names, faces and locations too. Ergo, lying/discretion behaviour is inate here and you just have to see past that. People will open up when trust is built - and that works both ways. As for age, if someone did lie, but you got on well nonetheless and didn't tell you until after 6months of lots of mutual fun. Then potentially, that's 6months you may have missed out on if the person was immediately disregarded due to their true age. Positivity Hang in there and good things will come. | |||
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"Regretting posting this massively. Find it hard to get my head around why people lie on a site such as this when ultimately we are all here because we something in particular. I get where decadent is coming from though, if you list you specifics then people may lie to get round them. And I get that. I'd much rather someone says they have other playmates and says when they're free than have someone say they are free and don't have others and make up excuses that are just really unbelievable and expect me to buy it. . I dont want to hear what people think I want to hear. I'd rather the honesty. At least I know where I am with that. Not looking for a relationship so I have no need to be bugged many things. Its just a case of if someone lies or isn't honest about the small tiny unimportant things then what else do they lie about or leave out. Like the tiny detail I posted about. Unimportant but could make you wonder. Say someone lies about their age, again unimportant in reality, but doesn't actually tell you their actual age for months on end, doesn't that just display a lie that they can keep and continue to do so and when you did find out, youre not bothered by the age but you're bothered by the fact they kept it hidden so long. Don't feel bad for posting. From your other posts I get the impression you've had a bit of a rough time with someone who you thought you could trust. When you go through something like like and realise what you thought you had was just lies it distorts your view on things for a while. It can make you obsess on the little lies as you are hesitant to get caught out again. Be kind to yourself, take some time out if you need it and use this place however you want to xx" Trust is as important on here as anywhere else. Put the whole thing into context and you have every right to feel bad. It won't be of much comfort in the short term I know, ut there, are people on here with integrity, decency and honesty. Carry on being beautiful - it means you win and the person who hurt you loses ultimately. | |||
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"I don't want a relationship. I dont want exclusivity either. I expect anyone I take an interest in or vice versa to have other playmates but I want is that they are honest about it. The recent thing where I got lied to etc.....he wanted exclusive, said all sorts of things and didn't like me me going near anyone else at all. Yet he was fucking someone else the whole time and had a couples profile with her on here. I'd just like the same honesty back as I give not games or lies or someone controlling me. Yet I've been called a bunny boiler and control freak on here. I'll unhide my profile so you can see what it says " You're not the first and won't be the last. It's not nice when it happens. | |||
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"Regretting posting this massively. Find it hard to get my head around why people lie on a site such as this when ultimately we are all here because we something in particular. I get where decadent is coming from though, if you list you specifics then people may lie to get round them. And I get that. I'd much rather someone says they have other playmates and says when they're free than have someone say they are free and don't have others and make up excuses that are just really unbelievable and expect me to buy it. . I dont want to hear what people think I want to hear. I'd rather the honesty. At least I know where I am with that. Not looking for a relationship so I have no need to be bugged many things. Its just a case of if someone lies or isn't honest about the small tiny unimportant things then what else do they lie about or leave out. Like the tiny detail I posted about. Unimportant but could make you wonder. Say someone lies about their age, again unimportant in reality, but doesn't actually tell you their actual age for months on end, doesn't that just display a lie that they can keep and continue to do so and when you did find out, youre not bothered by the age but you're bothered by the fact they kept it hidden so long. Don't feel bad for posting, but maybe reconsider what you're looking for and be open from the outset? If this was a truly honest site, then everyone will be publicly posting their real names, faces and locations too. Ergo, lying/discretion behaviour is inate here and you just have to see past that. People will open up when trust is built - and that works both ways. As for age, if someone did lie, but you got on well nonetheless and didn't tell you until after 6months of lots of mutual fun. Then potentially, that's 6months you may have missed out on if the person was immediately disregarded due to their true age. Positivity Hang in there and good things will come." Public pics to be honest? There are professions that would look down on this! | |||
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"I don't want a relationship. I dont want exclusivity either. I expect anyone I take an interest in or vice versa to have other playmates but I want is that they are honest about it. The recent thing where I got lied to etc.....he wanted exclusive, said all sorts of things and didn't like me me going near anyone else at all. Yet he was fucking someone else the whole time and had a couples profile with her on here. I'd just like the same honesty back as I give not games or lies or someone controlling me. Yet I've been called a bunny boiler and control freak on here. I'll unhide my profile so you can see what it says " He sounds like a rotten person and I can absolutely understand why you’re having trouble trusting people as a result. I’m with you, I would be just as upset in your situation - I think the hypocrisy and controlling behaviour would upset me even more than the dishonesty. Myself, I take the view that pretty much everyone I talk to is probably lying about something, and I just have to hope it’s nothing potentially dangerous. There is only one person I’ve chosen to trust completely, and I know if he breaks that trust I’ll be devastated. So I really do understand where you’re coming from and I don’t think you’re a bunny boiler or a control freak. But I think there’s a risk that worrying about small things could lead you down that path - I say that because I have had to be careful about that in the past. | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. In the grand scheme of things, is bedtime really a major issue? Wow - just managed to read the entire thread. I think that the OP used this as an example... To be fair, if I was happily chatting to somebody, and in the middle of a conversation, then they said they are off to bed but seen them online later, I would also question it. Of course there could be a gazillion explanations. But she's allowed to question it, yes? But I think the OP's point is, lies in general, and this obviously stemmed from being messed about in the past. We all need to develop slightly thicker skin on Fab, but the question I have for you all, are we actually allowed to be human? Just an observation.... xx Niki Thank you!! Even if it was a dating site, looking for marriage, I think it's more than controlling to expect someone to tell you the details of their life. Once you develop an actual relationship, that's the time to expect more info on what they are up to, and even then, not a rigid account of what they are doing at all times. I'd run faster than I'm capable of if anyone questioned anything I do in my life, here. If I don't like the way a conversation is going with someone, I just move on. No one is obligated to give me any info they don't want to. Expecting so much info from anyone does sound bunny boilerish to me. I'm not trying to speak for the OP but I think the point of the thread isn't that she asked for information or anything like that. It's that he offered the information then appeared to return online after, meaning that it's probable that he was lying about what he'd said. I don't think that the OP is claiming any form of control over the guy, it's the question of 'why lie?' that's been thrown up. " Think my problem is with this thread is that if it was a male who posted it the response would have been a lot worse. I tend to not regard the op gender before I reply so people get my response regardless of gender. Although looking at the thread there's a lot going on beyond the time someone went to sleep. And I feel sorry that it's blown up in this way | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. In the grand scheme of things, is bedtime really a major issue? Wow - just managed to read the entire thread. I think that the OP used this as an example... To be fair, if I was happily chatting to somebody, and in the middle of a conversation, then they said they are off to bed but seen them online later, I would also question it. Of course there could be a gazillion explanations. But she's allowed to question it, yes? But I think the OP's point is, lies in general, and this obviously stemmed from being messed about in the past. We all need to develop slightly thicker skin on Fab, but the question I have for you all, are we actually allowed to be human? Just an observation.... xx Niki Thank you!! Even if it was a dating site, looking for marriage, I think it's more than controlling to expect someone to tell you the details of their life. Once you develop an actual relationship, that's the time to expect more info on what they are up to, and even then, not a rigid account of what they are doing at all times. I'd run faster than I'm capable of if anyone questioned anything I do in my life, here. If I don't like the way a conversation is going with someone, I just move on. No one is obligated to give me any info they don't want to. Expecting so much info from anyone does sound bunny boilerish to me. I'm not trying to speak for the OP but I think the point of the thread isn't that she asked for information or anything like that. It's that he offered the information then appeared to return online after, meaning that it's probable that he was lying about what he'd said. I don't think that the OP is claiming any form of control over the guy, it's the question of 'why lie?' that's been thrown up. Think my problem is with this thread is that if it was a male who posted it the response would have been a lot worse. I tend to not regard the op gender before I reply so people get my response regardless of gender. Although looking at the thread there's a lot going on beyond the time someone went to sleep. And I feel sorry that it's blown up in this way " I was thinking exactly the same. If it was a guy he’d be controlling and vilified. | |||
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"He said he was going to bed at 9:30, there's no reason to doubt he did that. And if he was still awake an hour later and popped back onto fab for a nosey, that doesn't make him a liar. Or does he have to run his online activity past everyone he's chatting to in case they're keeping tabs? " I'd be fuming if this happened to ISI weird I'm stalking their prof | |||
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"Like getting a message that says Went to bed at 9.30 But you know they were online way past that. In the grand scheme of things, is bedtime really a major issue? Wow - just managed to read the entire thread. I think that the OP used this as an example... To be fair, if I was happily chatting to somebody, and in the middle of a conversation, then they said they are off to bed but seen them online later, I would also question it. Of course there could be a gazillion explanations. But she's allowed to question it, yes? But I think the OP's point is, lies in general, and this obviously stemmed from being messed about in the past. We all need to develop slightly thicker skin on Fab, but the question I have for you all, are we actually allowed to be human? Just an observation.... xx Niki Thank you!! Even if it was a dating site, looking for marriage, I think it's more than controlling to expect someone to tell you the details of their life. Once you develop an actual relationship, that's the time to expect more info on what they are up to, and even then, not a rigid account of what they are doing at all times. I'd run faster than I'm capable of if anyone questioned anything I do in my life, here. If I don't like the way a conversation is going with someone, I just move on. No one is obligated to give me any info they don't want to. Expecting so much info from anyone does sound bunny boilerish to me." Well you've replied to my comment, and I'm scratching my head a little to see how you got from the point I was making to the point you made. She wasn't questioning him. She was questioning why people lie. That is the OP. She gave an example that was widely misread and criticised. There is a massive difference. PLUS: She didn't ask for the info - he volunteered it. She's human, right? The OP was questioning why people lie in general. if she hadn't brought that particular example up, you'd all be cheering her on, telling her how there are so many fibbers on fab! Nobody mentioned a dating site or marriage. Nobody, especially the OP didn't have any expectations, other than honesty and that in a generalistic term, not only with regards to the unfortunate specific example. Please put yourself in her situation and see how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot and you had people misreading your OP. Lets keep this positive, please. No need to judge and call people bunny boilers. xN | |||
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