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"What is the learning disability? Not all learning disability automatically makes someone vulnerable" | |||
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"Does anyone have any? Just recently found out about Jenni Lee and Hannah Hays. Both of their stories are pretty heart breaking. Jenni is a gambling addict who got hooked on crystal meth and lives in the Las Vegas storm drains. Hannah has a learning disability and it turns out she had it before she joined the industry. She was involved in a car crash when she was 16 and got into the industry at 18 (I think). I'm guessing the crash is why she has a learning disability. I feel bad for both of them, but especially Hannah since it's hard to know if she really knew what she was getting herself into. I hope she did and I hope she loves what she does, but I feel uncomfortable knowing that her agents got her jobs despite knowing that she has a learning disability. It just feels like she was a vulnerable young girl being exploited and I really hope that wasn't the case. I don't think I could watch their videos anymore now that I know more about them." Exploitation of the vulnerable and those who feel they have little choice are common in the porn industry. That's why my husband and I don't watch it. If there's a chance that the people in the video have been coerced in some way then I don't want any part of that. (I'm not interested in having a debate with anyone over this, it's just my personal view) | |||
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"Does anyone have any? Just recently found out about Jenni Lee and Hannah Hays. Both of their stories are pretty heart breaking. Jenni is a gambling addict who got hooked on crystal meth and lives in the Las Vegas storm drains. Hannah has a learning disability and it turns out she had it before she joined the industry. She was involved in a car crash when she was 16 and got into the industry at 18 (I think). I'm guessing the crash is why she has a learning disability. I feel bad for both of them, but especially Hannah since it's hard to know if she really knew what she was getting herself into. I hope she did and I hope she loves what she does, but I feel uncomfortable knowing that her agents got her jobs despite knowing that she has a learning disability. It just feels like she was a vulnerable young girl being exploited and I really hope that wasn't the case. I don't think I could watch their videos anymore now that I know more about them." do you think porn stars enjoy their work then lol its a job once youve been doing it a while like any job it becomes monotonous, routine, mundane | |||
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"This is a weird thread. J don't know any porn stars names let alone their back story. " I was thinking the same. | |||
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"This is a weird thread. J don't know any porn stars names let alone their back story. I was thinking the same." Why? This is an open forum... some Men can be “name nerds”......whether it be the names of sports men, actors/actresses even in vanilla movies....so why not porn stars....just means they watch it enough to remember the names | |||
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"This is a weird thread. J don't know any porn stars names let alone their back story. I was thinking the same. Why? This is an open forum... some Men can be “name nerds”......whether it be the names of sports men, actors/actresses even in vanilla movies....so why not porn stars....just means they watch it enough to remember the names " Did we say it shouldn't have been posted?! Nope, don't think we did. We just expressed our opinion as we are entitled to do on an open forum | |||
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"This is a weird thread. J don't know any porn stars names let alone their back story. I was thinking the same. Why? This is an open forum... some Men can be “name nerds”......whether it be the names of sports men, actors/actresses even in vanilla movies....so why not porn stars....just means they watch it enough to remember the names Did we say it shouldn't have been posted?! Nope, don't think we did. We just expressed our opinion as we are entitled to do on an open forum " What I think is even stranger is the fact that you seemed to get upset by a comment that was just a fact...#touchy | |||
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"Does anyone have any? Just recently found out about Jenni Lee and Hannah Hays. Both of their stories are pretty heart breaking. Jenni is a gambling addict who got hooked on crystal meth and lives in the Las Vegas storm drains. Hannah has a learning disability and it turns out she had it before she joined the industry. She was involved in a car crash when she was 16 and got into the industry at 18 (I think). I'm guessing the crash is why she has a learning disability. I feel bad for both of them, but especially Hannah since it's hard to know if she really knew what she was getting herself into. I hope she did and I hope she loves what she does, but I feel uncomfortable knowing that her agents got her jobs despite knowing that she has a learning disability. It just feels like she was a vulnerable young girl being exploited and I really hope that wasn't the case. I don't think I could watch their videos anymore now that I know more about them." Ooh yeah, this makes me a bit uncomfortable too | |||
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"Jon Ronson has done some interesting pieces on porn stars and the industry in general. Check out his Butterfly Effect podcast. " Victoria Coren-Mitchell tried to make a porn film without exploiting anyone (behind the camera, sadly), and wrote a book "once more, with feeling" about her experiences. | |||
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"Does anyone have any? Just recently found out about Jenni Lee and Hannah Hays. Both of their stories are pretty heart breaking. Jenni is a gambling addict who got hooked on crystal meth and lives in the Las Vegas storm drains. Hannah has a learning disability and it turns out she had it before she joined the industry. She was involved in a car crash when she was 16 and got into the industry at 18 (I think). I'm guessing the crash is why she has a learning disability. I feel bad for both of them, but especially Hannah since it's hard to know if she really knew what she was getting herself into. I hope she did and I hope she loves what she does, but I feel uncomfortable knowing that her agents got her jobs despite knowing that she has a learning disability. It just feels like she was a vulnerable young girl being exploited and I really hope that wasn't the case. I don't think I could watch their videos anymore now that I know more about them. Exploitation of the vulnerable and those who feel they have little choice are common in the porn industry. That's why my husband and I don't watch it. If there's a chance that the people in the video have been coerced in some way then I don't want any part of that. (I'm not interested in having a debate with anyone over this, it's just my personal view)" | |||
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"John Dough springs to mind who committed suicide. He was featured in one of the Louis Theroux documentaries about the US porn industry." | |||
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"John Dough springs to mind who committed suicide. He was featured in one of the Louis Theroux documentaries about the US porn industry." That was very sad. | |||
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"This is a weird thread. J don't know any porn stars names let alone their back story. I was thinking the same. Why? This is an open forum... some Men can be “name nerds”......whether it be the names of sports men, actors/actresses even in vanilla movies....so why not porn stars....just means they watch it enough to remember the names Did we say it shouldn't have been posted?! Nope, don't think we did. We just expressed our opinion as we are entitled to do on an open forum What I think is even stranger is the fact that you seemed to get upset by a comment that was just a fact...#touchy" Awww you're funny Which bit was a fact? You're assumption that he was a name nerd (bit rude go call him a nerd but hey, who am I to judge?) Or you're assumption that i care enough about your opinion to get upset about it? Little secret....none of this is real, it's all just online blustering. I big enough and ugly enough to not get so invested. You asked a question of me and _iss_tress after we stated we thought it was a weird thread (in an open forum as you helpfully pointed out) so I answered using some of your helpful information to back it up. Not a sign of upset involved. People are so quick to accuse those who have different views as bring 'upset' or 'touchy' when in fact we just don't agree with them and are able to defend our position with words. | |||
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"This is a weird thread. J don't know any porn stars names let alone their back story. I was thinking the same. Why? This is an open forum... some Men can be “name nerds”......whether it be the names of sports men, actors/actresses even in vanilla movies....so why not porn stars....just means they watch it enough to remember the names Did we say it shouldn't have been posted?! Nope, don't think we did. We just expressed our opinion as we are entitled to do on an open forum What I think is even stranger is the fact that you seemed to get upset by a comment that was just a fact...#touchy Awww you're funny Which bit was a fact? You're assumption that he was a name nerd (bit rude go call him a nerd but hey, who am I to judge?) Or you're assumption that i care enough about your opinion to get upset about it? Little secret....none of this is real, it's all just online blustering. I big enough and ugly enough to not get so invested. You asked a question of me and _iss_tress after we stated we thought it was a weird thread (in an open forum as you helpfully pointed out) so I answered using some of your helpful information to back it up. Not a sign of upset involved. People are so quick to accuse those who have different views as bring 'upset' or 'touchy' when in fact we just don't agree with them and are able to defend our position with words. " And there you go again.... | |||
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"As much as no-one likes to hear about exploitation of individuals, in a generic way, why merely pick on the porn industry. The music industry is littered with exploitation and abuse, as is the film industry itself (how about Harvey Weinstein as a modern example) and no-one says they don't watch film or listen to music due to exploitation. The comic industry is rife with exploitation of talent. In terms of porn no-one talks about the talent in the industry who have their bills paid by doing the work. Is not the issue with porn is that some of it reflects the sexism and misogyny within society rather than being evil of itself. These days in porn with pay clips people are in control of their own movies. Too many people just respond on the basis of their own prejudices. Personally I think the exploitation of staff by Philip Green and John Ashley are equally relevant which is why I no longer shop at Sports Direct or shops owned by Philip Green. " | |||
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"As much as no-one likes to hear about exploitation of individuals, in a generic way, why merely pick on the porn industry. The music industry is littered with exploitation and abuse, as is the film industry itself (how about Harvey Weinstein as a modern example) and no-one says they don't watch film or listen to music due to exploitation. The comic industry is rife with exploitation of talent. In terms of porn no-one talks about the talent in the industry who have their bills paid by doing the work. Is not the issue with porn is that some of it reflects the sexism and misogyny within society rather than being evil of itself. These days in porn with pay clips people are in control of their own movies. Too many people just respond on the basis of their own prejudices. Personally I think the exploitation of staff by Philip Green and John Ashley are equally relevant which is why I no longer shop at Sports Direct or shops owned by Philip Green. " I couldn’t agree more - having ”dabbled” in the sex industry, there is much more exploitation going on in big business on a much larger scale then there is in the porn industry. An example: an elected MP recently said that people with learning difficulties should not get as much benefits because don’t understand the concept of money. Exploitation exists where ever people can take advantage of others. It is talked about in porn because porn is a ’sexy/interesting’ subject to talk about, not because it is more prevalent or widespread. | |||
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"The real question is why do you give a flying fuck about pornstars when there are people in much worse situations... " It's an interesting discussion? There's always someone worse off, so using that logic we'd never discuss any bad situation. | |||
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"The real question is why do you give a flying fuck about pornstars when there are people in much worse situations... " Their real people too, Somebody might say the same about you ! | |||
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"(how about Harvey Weinstein as a modern example). " Nonce | |||
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