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"The issue is a complete lack of respect, for their parents, for the police, for their communities and for themselves. Even in a reletively small prosperous town like mine we have street rats who totally disrespect everything. I have to say I blame society in general, we are fast becoming a society of too many do gooders, there is no deterent anymore, police dont have the power they used too, I was frightened of my local copper when I grew up, now the street rats just hurl abuse and the police dont do anything because they simply dont have the resources and the time to deal with all the red tape health and safety and human rights bollocks! If these little shits dont act like humans then they should not have the same rights as one!! Sorry but I also blame the parents, if you are responsible enough to have a child then you are responsible enough to teach them right from wrong! Like a previous comment, if it were one of mine I would be marching them down the police station myself with a list of all their mates names and addresses too! This country is going down the pan, we need to get real and deal with this antisocial behavior harshly, I for one would happily pay another couple of pence income tax to combat it and build more prisons, actually put another % on VAT instead of income tax to catch the benefit scammers (which lets be honest are the ones rioting) and get them to contribute to society rather than bleed it dry!" I was going to add something along the same lines of that but no need as you have pretty much summed up my exact thboughts on the matter so I agree with your views on this 100%. I must say tho as a Wigan lad my self it was shocking to watch the video footage in question as apart from the disgrace of the kids in question I also felt some shame for the town in which I live. Some comfort perhaps to say well its not just Wigan its all over the country but then again there in lays the problem and I must say as people have above its got to start with the home and parents and then also give back the powers to people in authority like school teachers etc etc to bring back some diclipline to kids | |||
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" So whilst the mother didn't encourage her daughter to become a thief, she certainly did little (on the surface of it) to prevent a repeat occurence." Exactly... in cases such as this then child benefit should be stopped! Then I am sure the parents wouldnt have any problem knocking sense into the little fekkers!!! | |||
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"The issue is a complete lack of respect, for their parents, for the police, for their communities and for themselves. Even in a reletively small prosperous town like mine we have street rats who totally disrespect everything. I have to say I blame society in general, we are fast becoming a society of too many do gooders, there is no deterent anymore, police dont have the power they used too, I was frightened of my local copper when I grew up, now the street rats just hurl abuse and the police dont do anything because they simply dont have the resources and the time to deal with all the red tape health and safety and human rights bollocks! If these little shits dont act like humans then they should not have the same rights as one!! Sorry but I also blame the parents, if you are responsible enough to have a child then you are responsible enough to teach them right from wrong! Like a previous comment, if it were one of mine I would be marching them down the police station myself with a list of all their mates names and addresses too! This country is going down the pan, we need to get real and deal with this antisocial behavior harshly, I for one would happily pay another couple of pence income tax to combat it and build more prisons, actually put another % on VAT instead of income tax to catch the benefit scammers (which lets be honest are the ones rioting) and get them to contribute to society rather than bleed it dry! I was going to add something along the same lines of that but no need as you have pretty much summed up my exact thboughts on the matter so I agree with your views on this 100%. I must say tho as a Wigan lad my self it was shocking to watch the video footage in question as apart from the disgrace of the kids in question I also felt some shame for the town in which I live. Some comfort perhaps to say well its not just Wigan its all over the country but then again there in lays the problem and I must say as people have above its got to start with the home and parents and then also give back the powers to people in authority like school teachers etc etc to bring back some diclipline to kids" Oh come on, just say it: we want to give the little s**ts a beating! | |||
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"The issue is a complete lack of respect, for their parents, for the police, for their communities and for themselves. Even in a reletively small prosperous town like mine we have street rats who totally disrespect everything. I have to say I blame society in general, we are fast becoming a society of too many do gooders, there is no deterent anymore, police dont have the power they used too, I was frightened of my local copper when I grew up, now the street rats just hurl abuse and the police dont do anything because they simply dont have the resources and the time to deal with all the red tape health and safety and human rights bollocks! If these little shits dont act like humans then they should not have the same rights as one!! Sorry but I also blame the parents, if you are responsible enough to have a child then you are responsible enough to teach them right from wrong! Like a previous comment, if it were one of mine I would be marching them down the police station myself with a list of all their mates names and addresses too! This country is going down the pan, we need to get real and deal with this antisocial behavior harshly, I for one would happily pay another couple of pence income tax to combat it and build more prisons, actually put another % on VAT instead of income tax to catch the benefit scammers (which lets be honest are the ones rioting) and get them to contribute to society rather than bleed it dry! I was going to add something along the same lines of that but no need as you have pretty much summed up my exact thboughts on the matter so I agree with your views on this 100%. I must say tho as a Wigan lad my self it was shocking to watch the video footage in question as apart from the disgrace of the kids in question I also felt some shame for the town in which I live. Some comfort perhaps to say well its not just Wigan its all over the country but then again there in lays the problem and I must say as people have above its got to start with the home and parents and then also give back the powers to people in authority like school teachers etc etc to bring back some diclipline to kids Oh come on, just say it: we want to give the little s**ts a beating! " | |||
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"The issue is a complete lack of respect, for their parents, for the police, for their communities and for themselves. Even in a reletively small prosperous town like mine we have street rats who totally disrespect everything. I have to say I blame society in general, we are fast becoming a society of too many do gooders, there is no deterent anymore, police dont have the power they used too, I was frightened of my local copper when I grew up, now the street rats just hurl abuse and the police dont do anything because they simply dont have the resources and the time to deal with all the red tape health and safety and human rights bollocks! If these little shits dont act like humans then they should not have the same rights as one!! Sorry but I also blame the parents, if you are responsible enough to have a child then you are responsible enough to teach them right from wrong! Like a previous comment, if it were one of mine I would be marching them down the police station myself with a list of all their mates names and addresses too! This country is going down the pan, we need to get real and deal with this antisocial behavior harshly, I for one would happily pay another couple of pence income tax to combat it and build more prisons, actually put another % on VAT instead of income tax to catch the benefit scammers (which lets be honest are the ones rioting) and get them to contribute to society rather than bleed it dry! I was going to add something along the same lines of that but no need as you have pretty much summed up my exact thboughts on the matter so I agree with your views on this 100%. I must say tho as a Wigan lad my self it was shocking to watch the video footage in question as apart from the disgrace of the kids in question I also felt some shame for the town in which I live. Some comfort perhaps to say well its not just Wigan its all over the country but then again there in lays the problem and I must say as people have above its got to start with the home and parents and then also give back the powers to people in authority like school teachers etc etc to bring back some diclipline to kids Oh come on, just say it: we want to give the little s**ts a beating! " Cannot agree more ..and yes start to fine the parents too and make them pay up ...not 50p per week. | |||
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" Cannot agree more ..and yes start to fine the parents too and make them pay up ...not 50p per week. " Too right, whats the point of a fine if they pay a frigging £1 then it gets written off in 2 years time!! As said before too many do gooders in this country. These parasites on society need to be dealt with swiftly and firmly, although i dont necessarily agree with cutting hands off for stealing I do agree an eye for an eye, steal something worth £200 then the fine is £200 plus court costs dont pay up within 6 months then fine doubled, not paid up in 12 months then prison for minimum of 6 months and no early releases (and dont get me started on the prison system, cells should be overcrowded and have buckets in the corner not frigging ensuite hotel rooms with flat screen TV's)!!! Grrrr I wish I was home secretary! | |||
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"kids don't get punnished enough for the crimes that they do, i have 3 boys all under 11 and i will try my best to keep them away from gangs as they grow up as i think thats how it starts. " i agree, i have an 11 year old daughter and shes not allowed out the house alone, i dont even allow her to the shop thats 3 doors away alone, where i live its normal to see pre school kids on the park alone, but because theres a lot of drugs and trouble with gangs of kids where i live i want to know where mine is all the time, she does getting picked on because of it and all the local mums call me a snob and ive had abouse shouted at me because i wont let my daughter out to mix with their kids but all that does it makes me realise why i dont wanty my daughter mixing with these people im far from a snob and yes it bothers be my daughter gets made fun of by the local kids because shes not allowed out the house at 11 but im more bothered about knowing shes safe and not upto no good, it can be hard at times but we just have to do our best | |||
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"kids don't get punnished enough for the crimes that they do, i have 3 boys all under 11 and i will try my best to keep them away from gangs as they grow up as i think thats how it starts. i agree, i have an 11 year old daughter and shes not allowed out the house alone, i dont even allow her to the shop thats 3 doors away alone, where i live its normal to see pre school kids on the park alone, but because theres a lot of drugs and trouble with gangs of kids where i live i want to know where mine is all the time, she does getting picked on because of it and all the local mums call me a snob and ive had abouse shouted at me because i wont let my daughter out to mix with their kids but all that does it makes me realise why i dont wanty my daughter mixing with these people im far from a snob and yes it bothers be my daughter gets made fun of by the local kids because shes not allowed out the house at 11 but im more bothered about knowing shes safe and not upto no good, it can be hard at times but we just have to do our best" Naughty that is good parenting nothing to be ashamed of. To me it is the difference between bring up children and letting them raise thenselves | |||
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