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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible?" That's really quite judgemental. You have no idea what they're looking at. | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. " | |||
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"Never, I don't understand the whole phone thing tbh unless it's an emergency why just why? And what is so important? More important than your kids? Life? " Yes and I wonder the same | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible?" Wow. Huge generalisation. As a single dad of two, when the youngest is in the buggy and eldest on the buggy board, this is a rare bit of time I get to use to talk to someone. I’ll either be texting the person I’m meeting to let them know I’m undoubtedly running late or calling them to do the same. Time it very limited with kids, if you’re a parent, you know this. | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. " It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement | |||
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"I think it's absolutely fine to sometimes chat on your phone or look at something when out with your kids. Having said that I have on many occasions seem parents totally ignore their child as they are too busy with their phone. On one occasion I remember a child in a buggy on the bus trying to talk to his mum, who was doing something on her phone (she didn't look up from it once in 20 minutes) totally ignored him them after a couple of minutes shouting at him to shut the fuck up! There has to be a balance. " That is right it is always about balance | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? Wow. Huge generalisation. As a single dad of two, when the youngest is in the buggy and eldest on the buggy board, this is a rare bit of time I get to use to talk to someone. I’ll either be texting the person I’m meeting to let them know I’m undoubtedly running late or calling them to do the same. Time it very limited with kids, if you’re a parent, you know this. " Well said, some ppl live in this very ideal world dont they. I don't have kids but most of my friends do and so does my reg guy, they never get any time so when the kids are occupied they have to take there moment. | |||
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"No. We're raising a generation who believe they're of secondary importance to Facebook or chatting to someone else. If it's to let someone know you're running late or similar then yes, of course. Get it done then put your phone away. The one I really hate is when you see other parents at the swings with their kids and they're completely ignoring them for phone time. Phubbing your kids isn't right... and we all know it really " well said | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? Wow. Huge generalisation. As a single dad of two, when the youngest is in the buggy and eldest on the buggy board, this is a rare bit of time I get to use to talk to someone. I’ll either be texting the person I’m meeting to let them know I’m undoubtedly running late or calling them to do the same. Time it very limited with kids, if you’re a parent, you know this. " I've brought up two kids as a single parent and 90% of the time my phone was turned off as didn't need to talk to others as always prefered seeing them in person, also the kids didn't invariably make me run late. Bringing up the kids was a rewarding and fulfilling thing for me and "my time" a marvelous bonus not a necessity. I get that it had it's frustrations and hardships but that just seemed a natural downside to having the kids permanently ... 27 years done and dusted now is me time but luckily still don't have to do it on the phone | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? Wow. Huge generalisation. As a single dad of two, when the youngest is in the buggy and eldest on the buggy board, this is a rare bit of time I get to use to talk to someone. I’ll either be texting the person I’m meeting to let them know I’m undoubtedly running late or calling them to do the same. Time it very limited with kids, if you’re a parent, you know this. I've brought up two kids as a single parent and 90% of the time my phone was turned off as didn't need to talk to others as always prefered seeing them in person, also the kids didn't invariably make me run late. Bringing up the kids was a rewarding and fulfilling thing for me and "my time" a marvelous bonus not a necessity. I get that it had it's frustrations and hardships but that just seemed a natural downside to having the kids permanently ... 27 years done and dusted now is me time but luckily still don't have to do it on the phone " | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement " Absolutely agree How do you know shes not calling her sister to ask about a poorly parent? Or texting the dad as somethings come up? I use my phone when I'm with my child, does it make me a bad parent? No. Maybe I'm texting her step mum to arrange picking her up from school? Maybe I'm on the phone to the hospital as I spend far too much time there? This is why I teach my daughter to not make judgements about people and their circumstances. | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement Absolutely agree How do you know shes not calling her sister to ask about a poorly parent? Or texting the dad as somethings come up? I use my phone when I'm with my child, does it make me a bad parent? No. Maybe I'm texting her step mum to arrange picking her up from school? Maybe I'm on the phone to the hospital as I spend far too much time there? This is why I teach my daughter to not make judgements about people and their circumstances. " | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible?" Why on earth did you assume they are Facebook? They're probably on fab!!! | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement Absolutely agree How do you know shes not calling her sister to ask about a poorly parent? Or texting the dad as somethings come up? I use my phone when I'm with my child, does it make me a bad parent? No. Maybe I'm texting her step mum to arrange picking her up from school? Maybe I'm on the phone to the hospital as I spend far too much time there? This is why I teach my daughter to not make judgements about people and their circumstances. " Bingo! | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? Wow. Huge generalisation. As a single dad of two, when the youngest is in the buggy and eldest on the buggy board, this is a rare bit of time I get to use to talk to someone. I’ll either be texting the person I’m meeting to let them know I’m undoubtedly running late or calling them to do the same. Time it very limited with kids, if you’re a parent, you know this. I've brought up two kids as a single parent and 90% of the time my phone was turned off as didn't need to talk to others as always prefered seeing them in person, also the kids didn't invariably make me run late. Bringing up the kids was a rewarding and fulfilling thing for me and "my time" a marvelous bonus not a necessity. I get that it had it's frustrations and hardships but that just seemed a natural downside to having the kids permanently ... 27 years done and dusted now is me time but luckily still don't have to do it on the phone " | |||
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"I think the sadest think I see and I see it a lot, is when you have a family out for dinner together and all of them are on thire phones and hardly talking at all. " We have a rule that no one is allowed their phone/technololgy at all, at mealtimes. As for using their phone whilst pushing their pushchair, how do you know they hadn't been at the park for 3 hours and spent all that time playing with their child? Maybe their child had been playing up for hours and the parent needed some 'me time'. Parents are allowed to do some stuff for themselves during the day too you know. Why be so judgemental? | |||
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"I think the sadest think I see and I see it a lot, is when you have a family out for dinner together and all of them are on thire phones and hardly talking at all. We have a rule that no one is allowed their phone/technololgy at all, at mealtimes. As for using their phone whilst pushing their pushchair, how do you know they hadn't been at the park for 3 hours and spent all that time playing with their child? Maybe their child had been playing up for hours and the parent needed some 'me time'. Parents are allowed to do some stuff for themselves during the day too you know. Why be so judgemental?" | |||
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"People get judgemental, and people get defensive. To those that are judgemental, it happens so get over it. It happens for many different reasons. And it's not limited to just people with kids. To those defensive about it, have you honestly never been knocked in to with a pram, or kids running around wild while their parent is not paying attention on the phone and thought "get off your phone you stupid cunt, and watch what is going on around you?" I know I have. I'm not afraid to admit it despite knowing that sometimes they will have had a solid reasonable reason to be focused on their phone. What I do is stop walking, move in near a wall or corner and make the text/phonecall if I'm likely to be distracted. " , | |||
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"People get judgemental, and people get defensive. To those that are judgemental, it happens so get over it. It happens for many different reasons. And it's not limited to just people with kids. To those defensive about it, have you honestly never been knocked in to with a pram, or kids running around wild while their parent is not paying attention on the phone and thought "get off your phone you stupid cunt, and watch what is going on around you?" I know I have. I'm not afraid to admit it despite knowing that sometimes they will have had a solid reasonable reason to be focused on their phone. What I do is stop walking, move in near a wall or corner and make the text/phonecall if I'm likely to be distracted. " | |||
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"Give your child some of your attention. They won’t be little for long and you will miss out on so much. Enjoy being with them, there isn’t anything that important happening on your phone that warrants ignoring your children. " That is right | |||
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"When I lived in spain you see English family come on holiday and at bar and restaurants kids and parents.on there mobile no conversation at all my Spanish and Italian friends would never allow or do such a thing " , they seem much more family orientated | |||
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"What if they’re following google maps for directions? I’ve done that a few times. Plus... it’s sort of the opposite way around now - my 13 year old glued to her phone 24/7 and me fighting to get any conversation out of her. " They are probably not, if your daughter is doing that, you could ask her to put it down for a while so that you can chat | |||
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"When I lived in spain you see English family come on holiday and at bar and restaurants kids and parents.on there mobile no conversation at all my Spanish and Italian friends would never allow or do such a thing " I don’t allow phones at the dinner table | |||
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"When I lived in spain you see English family come on holiday and at bar and restaurants kids and parents.on there mobile no conversation at all my Spanish and Italian friends would never allow or do such a thing I don’t allow phones at the dinner table " , Quite right | |||
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"What if they’re following google maps for directions? I’ve done that a few times. Plus... it’s sort of the opposite way around now - my 13 year old glued to her phone 24/7 and me fighting to get any conversation out of her. They are probably not, if your daughter is doing that, you could ask her to put it down for a while so that you can chat " Haha. Well... Chatting to mum about her day is way less cool than her Snapchat group (or whatever it is)... so I’m informed. | |||
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"When I lived in spain you see English family come on holiday and at bar and restaurants kids and parents.on there mobile no conversation at all my Spanish and Italian friends would never allow or do such a thing I don’t allow phones at the dinner table " Oh no, I draw the line at that too. | |||
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"What if they’re following google maps for directions? I’ve done that a few times. Plus... it’s sort of the opposite way around now - my 13 year old glued to her phone 24/7 and me fighting to get any conversation out of her. They are probably not, if your daughter is doing that, you could ask her to put it down for a while so that you can chat Haha. Well... Chatting to mum about her day is way less cool than her Snapchat group (or whatever it is)... so I’m informed. " Not much you can do then. I think the question is more about younger children, who need your attention and security whilst out walking | |||
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"I’m on mine quite a bit sometimes when I’m doing stuff with my kids. Means I can work and spend time with them at the same time. Better than piling them to a child minders whilst I sit in the office. How do you all know what people are doing on their phones " Yes that makes sense, it's when out walking with children, that we have to be aware | |||
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"I’m on mine quite a bit sometimes when I’m doing stuff with my kids. Means I can work and spend time with them at the same time. Better than piling them to a child minders whilst I sit in the office. How do you all know what people are doing on their phones " hence my comment re following google maps whilst walking. I genuinely have done this many a time with my child when somewhere new... people are so quick to judge. | |||
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"I’m on mine quite a bit sometimes when I’m doing stuff with my kids. Means I can work and spend time with them at the same time. Better than piling them to a child minders whilst I sit in the office. How do you all know what people are doing on their phones hence my comment re following google maps whilst walking. I genuinely have done this many a time with my child when somewhere new... people are so quick to judge. " No judgement here, but not all mums are doing that | |||
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"Bloody hell, I'd love to be as perfect as some of you parents out there! When my daughter was little I very rarely, if ever, went on my phone while with her, however, I try not to judge those that do, you don't know their situation." | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement " Very true | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement Very true" Some people should Spend less time judging others and more time concentrating on their own lives. | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? That's really quite judgemental. You have no idea what they're looking at. " this OP Mine is used for work purposes and I have my computer on my phone. How do you know what they are looking at OP | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement Very true Some people should Spend less time judging others and more time concentrating on their own lives. " Agreed. There really are far worse things parents could do than check their phones whilst out with children. Goodness me... | |||
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"I’m on mine quite a bit sometimes when I’m doing stuff with my kids. Means I can work and spend time with them at the same time. Better than piling them to a child minders whilst I sit in the office. How do you all know what people are doing on their phones hence my comment re following google maps whilst walking. I genuinely have done this many a time with my child when somewhere new... people are so quick to judge. " | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible?" Or they are working and trying to bring up their kids at the same time it’s hard! | |||
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"I’m not judging anyone but I am saying they are missing out. I work with families so I see it all the time. They’re not in a strange place getting directions, they not working, they’re on FB and WhatsApp and make no secret of it. No that doesn’t apply to everyone but it does apply to a lot of people, not just when they’re walking around either. I think it’s a sad sign of the times. " This ^^^ unfortunately | |||
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"Similar subject, but I work in a hotel and I often see families come down to eat, all plugged into various devices and it annoys me at time. Though I appreciate it when families come down to the bar on an evening in particular, and instead of phones and tablets they have stuff like puzzles and games that everyone can enjoy as a family." I’m an autism mum haha iPads are the only reason we can actually eat out x | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? That's really quite judgemental. You have no idea what they're looking at. this OP Mine is used for work purposes and I have my computer on my phone. How do you know what they are looking at OP" Agreed but would you let your children run around, in the street, whilst you're working on your phone? | |||
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"Do you have kids shag? If not then it's very hard for you to pass judgement in any form on how a parent manages their children and time. It’s always those without kids who like to pass judgement Very true Some people should Spend less time judging others and more time concentrating on their own lives. " True. I have my rules for my kids which I’m sure other people do. I’m only really bothered about my own to be honest! | |||
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"Similar subject, but I work in a hotel and I often see families come down to eat, all plugged into various devices and it annoys me at time. Though I appreciate it when families come down to the bar on an evening in particular, and instead of phones and tablets they have stuff like puzzles and games that everyone can enjoy as a family. I’m an autism mum haha iPads are the only reason we can actually eat out x " another reason for using devices when around children that others haven’t considered... | |||
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"Similar subject, but I work in a hotel and I often see families come down to eat, all plugged into various devices and it annoys me at time. Though I appreciate it when families come down to the bar on an evening in particular, and instead of phones and tablets they have stuff like puzzles and games that everyone can enjoy as a family. I’m an autism mum haha iPads are the only reason we can actually eat out x " Oh yeah, I get that We have a family who stay regulaly and their son's autistic, he always has his headphones in his tablet which works for them. | |||
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"Similar subject, but I work in a hotel and I often see families come down to eat, all plugged into various devices and it annoys me at time. Though I appreciate it when families come down to the bar on an evening in particular, and instead of phones and tablets they have stuff like puzzles and games that everyone can enjoy as a family. I’m an autism mum haha iPads are the only reason we can actually eat out x " Yes. And this for me too | |||
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"I don't believe for one moment that every parent that is on the phone whilst out with their children has a legitimate reason though ... unfortunately the call of social media is very great for lots and lots of people. Only have to go to restaurants or pubs to realise that your table is the only one actually talking more than sometimes nowadays! " No of course not. And nobody is saying that, but unless you are looking over their shoulder (then stop being fucking nosey and rude) or they are blatantly making it obvious what they are looking at you have no idea what they are truely doing on their phone or how important it might be. Which is exactly what it comes down to, some will not be doing anything other than social media while some will have a serious reason to be on their phone. There is no high ground opinion to this whole thing because there are "right and wrong' reasons for doing why they are doing so. Those that are glued to their phone need to look at themselves but won't because they don't give a shit in the first place. | |||
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"Similar subject, but I work in a hotel and I often see families come down to eat, all plugged into various devices and it annoys me at time. Though I appreciate it when families come down to the bar on an evening in particular, and instead of phones and tablets they have stuff like puzzles and games that everyone can enjoy as a family. I’m an autism mum haha iPads are the only reason we can actually eat out x another reason for using devices when around children that others haven’t considered..." And that's a very good reason | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible?" Pushing a buggy whilst snapchatting and smoking is actually quite a skill. | |||
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"Meh, it doesn't bother me really. As long as they aren't putting the phone before their child or getting in my way then it's fine. It's easy to judge but that could be the first five or ten minutes to have some 'me' time that parent has had all day. " Well said. | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? Pushing a buggy whilst snapchatting and smoking is actually quite a skill. " Haha! | |||
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"I certainly dont miss out on my child just because I may use my phone while out." No neither do I. | |||
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"I don't believe for one moment that every parent that is on the phone whilst out with their children has a legitimate reason though ... unfortunately the call of social media is very great for lots and lots of people. Only have to go to restaurants or pubs to realise that your table is the only one actually talking more than sometimes nowadays! " What makes you think you get to choose what reason is legitimate or not? | |||
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"I certainly dont miss out on my child just because I may use my phone while out." Either do I, this thread really makes me roll my eyes... | |||
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"I don't believe for one moment that every parent that is on the phone whilst out with their children has a legitimate reason though ... unfortunately the call of social media is very great for lots and lots of people. Only have to go to restaurants or pubs to realise that your table is the only one actually talking more than sometimes nowadays! What makes you think you get to choose what reason is legitimate or not?" I haven't choosen anything lol | |||
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"They are in my opinion, very insecure that they have to look at their phone while walking with kids or their dogs. Its a sad world when people are glued to the phone..... stupid fuckas " Oh mate... WHAT?! Click bait... | |||
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"They are in my opinion, very insecure that they have to look at their phone while walking with kids or their dogs. Its a sad world when people are glued to the phone..... stupid fuckas " Insecure?? That doesn’t even make sense! | |||
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"Both of my boys are now tucked up in bed asleep, is it ok if I get my phone out now? Don’t want anyone thinking I’m a bad parent and all... " | |||
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"Both of my boys are now tucked up in bed asleep, is it ok if I get my phone out now? Don’t want anyone thinking I’m a bad parent and all... " You can the difference being, they are the safety of their home | |||
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"I don't believe for one moment that every parent that is on the phone whilst out with their children has a legitimate reason though ... unfortunately the call of social media is very great for lots and lots of people. Only have to go to restaurants or pubs to realise that your table is the only one actually talking more than sometimes nowadays! What makes you think you get to choose what reason is legitimate or not? I haven't choosen anything lol " You're saying you everyone has a legitimate reason, how do you know and who decides what's legitimate? | |||
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"I have studied child psychology and education and there is a worrying trend between parental interaction and the increased daily use of mobile phones and child development such as speech and toilet training. I understand that every situation is different and every child develops differently, these are just statistical trends that are appearing over time. " That doesn't surprise me..... | |||
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"Both of my boys are now tucked up in bed asleep, is it ok if I get my phone out now? Don’t want anyone thinking I’m a bad parent and all... You can the difference being, they are the safety of their home " Right ok, so if I only hand my youngest and he was asleep in the pram, then I’m not allowed to get my phone out then? Believe you me, I keep my children as safe as possible at all times. | |||
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"Both of my boys are now tucked up in bed asleep, is it ok if I get my phone out now? Don’t want anyone thinking I’m a bad parent and all... You can the difference being, they are the safety of their home Right ok, so if I only hand my youngest and he was asleep in the pram, then I’m not allowed to get my phone out then? Believe you me, I keep my children as safe as possible at all times. " I didn't say that and obviously your child is perfectly safe. I was talking about the toddlers running around near a busy road, whilst the parent is on the phone | |||
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"Couldn’t give a fuck what anyone else is doing or how they live there life to many people with an opinion these days .. just live and let live " But you can’t! You must pass judgment. Especially when children are involved and everyone else knows best! | |||
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"I work full time so every chance i get to spend time with my child is precious - phone goes on silent and its parent and child time. Could be baking reading a favourite book or just something simple like going out for a walk." That's lovely to hear | |||
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"Couldn’t give a fuck what anyone else is doing or how they live there life to many people with an opinion these days .. just live and let live But you can’t! You must pass judgment. Especially when children are involved and everyone else knows best! " I haven't seen anyone judge you personally. | |||
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"Anyone with kids posting on this thread now is technically a bad parent by some people's logic. " Seems to be that way sadly. | |||
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"Anyone with kids posting on this thread now is technically a bad parent by some people's logic. " Exactly.... leave people alone | |||
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"Anyone with kids posting on this thread now is technically a bad parent by some people's logic. " I think you should look at my post I have said there are obviously some good mums on here. | |||
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"I don't believe for one moment that every parent that is on the phone whilst out with their children has a legitimate reason though ... unfortunately the call of social media is very great for lots and lots of people. Only have to go to restaurants or pubs to realise that your table is the only one actually talking more than sometimes nowadays! What makes you think you get to choose what reason is legitimate or not? I haven't choosen anything lol You're saying you everyone has a legitimate reason, how do you know and who decides what's legitimate? " It was in reference to posts previous to my original comment | |||
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"I have studied child psychology and education and there is a worrying trend between parental interaction and the increased daily use of mobile phones and child development such as speech and toilet training. I understand that every situation is different and every child develops differently, these are just statistical trends that are appearing over time. " And this is what they notice in schools unfortunately. Delayed development because of a lack of interaction, particularly with regard to speech. It’s not all parents and it’s not all the time but staff are aware of the ones that have been raised in that environment. | |||
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"As a society we are slowly but surely eroding our freedom of choice " Agree | |||
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"I have studied child psychology and education and there is a worrying trend between parental interaction and the increased daily use of mobile phones and child development such as speech and toilet training. I understand that every situation is different and every child develops differently, these are just statistical trends that are appearing over time. " I imagine to have such a profound effect on development the phone usage would need to be significantly impeding parental-child interaction. This is probably an extreme example. Most phone usage by parents will likely fall somewhere at the less extreme end... | |||
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"As a society we are slowly but surely eroding our freedom of choice Agree " Also agree | |||
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"As a society we are slowly but surely eroding our freedom of choice " That is the smartest thing I have heard from a cock..err, I meant cock pic. Err, I meant someone with a cock pic! | |||
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"How did we ever manage to live without a phone" I remember having to wait in line to use a public phone haha | |||
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"As a society we are slowly but surely eroding our freedom of choice That is the smartest thing I have heard from a cock..err, I meant cock pic. Err, I meant someone with a cock pic! " Haha it’s not just the that does the thinking | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible?" Probably using facebook or something like that? Assumptions! When you ASSUME you make an ASS of U and ME! | |||
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"I see it all the time when you go out especially when they walk with the buggie so they cant see what they are up to, they are probably using facebook or something like that, what is your view of it is it being responsible? That's really quite judgemental. You have no idea what they're looking at. " Does it matter what they are viewing? | |||
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"How did we ever manage to live without a phone I remember having to wait in line to use a public phone haha " In general we managed to get from a to b without needing to contaçt someone on the way. I couldnt push a pram and use a phone anyway, the things are tricky to steer one handed. | |||
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"How did we ever manage to live without a phone I remember having to wait in line to use a public phone haha In general we managed to get from a to b without needing to contaçt someone on the way. I couldnt push a pram and use a phone anyway, the things are tricky to steer one handed." Can you not multitask then.... I can use a phone drink a beer and smoke a fag | |||
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"As a society we are slowly but surely eroding our freedom of choice Agree Also agree " I am not a photographer, but I can picture me and you together! | |||
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"How did we ever manage to live without a phone I remember having to wait in line to use a public phone haha In general we managed to get from a to b without needing to contaçt someone on the way. I couldnt push a pram and use a phone anyway, the things are tricky to steer one handed." I was just about to say the same thing to both points, I still turn my phone to silent when out so I can do what I want without interruption and I can't steer the pram with one hand anyway, them wheels now go every direction !! On another note, I received a lovely graze on my heel today while out, someone walked right into me , they were not looking where they were going as they were on their phone ....buggers !! | |||
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"PS I think of me time when my kids were young as something after the kids were in bed rather than walking down the street, surely that can't be relaxing?" Definitely this ^^^ saw it as a bonus not a necessity! | |||
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"I think the sadest think I see and I see it a lot, is when you have a family out for dinner together and all of them are on thire phones and hardly talking at all. We have a rule that no one is allowed their phone/technololgy at all, at mealtimes. As for using their phone whilst pushing their pushchair, how do you know they hadn't been at the park for 3 hours and spent all that time playing with their child? Maybe their child had been playing up for hours and the parent needed some 'me time'. Parents are allowed to do some stuff for themselves during the day too you know. Why be so judgemental?" I'm not being judgemental! I'm saying it's very sad that technically is taking over our lives. | |||
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"I think the sadest think I see and I see it a lot, is when you have a family out for dinner together and all of them are on thire phones and hardly talking at all. We have a rule that no one is allowed their phone/technololgy at all, at mealtimes. As for using their phone whilst pushing their pushchair, how do you know they hadn't been at the park for 3 hours and spent all that time playing with their child? Maybe their child had been playing up for hours and the parent needed some 'me time'. Parents are allowed to do some stuff for themselves during the day too you know. Why be so judgemental? I'm not being judgemental! I'm saying it's very sad that technically is taking over our lives. " You make a lot of sense darling | |||
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"I have studied child psychology and education and there is a worrying trend between parental interaction and the increased daily use of mobile phones and child development such as speech and toilet training. I understand that every situation is different and every child develops differently, these are just statistical trends that are appearing over time. I imagine to have such a profound effect on development the phone usage would need to be significantly impeding parental-child interaction. This is probably an extreme example. Most phone usage by parents will likely fall somewhere at the less extreme end... " I think personally the worrying thing for me reading the study at the time was that when it was understood that the child was having development issues then why not limit your screen time and spend more time to help your child. My daughter had speech development problems so we spent hours on phonics cards. She is now the best speller in her year taking her GCSE's and only occasionally drops her r`s | |||
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"Bet 58% of them live in poverty " Poverty judgemental you font have to have kids to live in poverty | |||
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"I think the sadest think I see and I see it a lot, is when you have a family out for dinner together and all of them are on thire phones and hardly talking at all. We have a rule that no one is allowed their phone/technololgy at all, at mealtimes. As for using their phone whilst pushing their pushchair, how do you know they hadn't been at the park for 3 hours and spent all that time playing with their child? Maybe their child had been playing up for hours and the parent needed some 'me time'. Parents are allowed to do some stuff for themselves during the day too you know. Why be so judgemental? I'm not being judgemental! I'm saying it's very sad that technically is taking over our lives. " Its very judgemental what difference does it make to anyone what ppl do when there with there kids | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' " | |||
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"One of my bugbears is that. Nothing to do with me but seeing some useless wonder pushing a pushchair whilst checking their Facebook grinds my gears" I have to agree. | |||
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"I think the sadest think I see and I see it a lot, is when you have a family out for dinner together and all of them are on thire phones and hardly talking at all. We have a rule that no one is allowed their phone/technololgy at all, at mealtimes. As for using their phone whilst pushing their pushchair, how do you know they hadn't been at the park for 3 hours and spent all that time playing with their child? Maybe their child had been playing up for hours and the parent needed some 'me time'. Parents are allowed to do some stuff for themselves during the day too you know. Why be so judgemental? I'm not being judgemental! I'm saying it's very sad that technically is taking over our lives. Its very judgemental what difference does it make to anyone what ppl do when there with there kids " Oh I'm sure you never make judgements. | |||
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"One of my bugbears is that. Nothing to do with me but seeing some useless wonder pushing a pushchair whilst checking their Facebook grinds my gears" A useless wonder? | |||
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"I work in a busy area with a lot of traffic there's a junior school near my work and I see it all the time young kids running on and off the road with parents oblivious on there phones, I'm a dad and understand time is precious but so are your children I miss walking my lad to school it a perfect time to talk, even when out with him I will only use my phone when it's needed. The same when out with family and friends it's time you will never get back and the chances are what ever is on your phone will still be there later on. Enjoy the time you have with you family and friends. Well that's my two pence worth anyway " | |||
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"One of my bugbears is that. Nothing to do with me but seeing some useless wonder pushing a pushchair whilst checking their Facebook grinds my gears A useless wonder? " | |||
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"One of my bugbears is that. Nothing to do with me but seeing some useless wonder pushing a pushchair whilst checking their Facebook grinds my gears A useless wonder? " Keeley! | |||
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"One of my bugbears is that. Nothing to do with me but seeing some useless wonder pushing a pushchair whilst checking their Facebook grinds my gears A useless wonder? " Do I know you? You look like my future girlfriend! | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' " People aren't judging mum's like you | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' People aren't judging mum's like you " No, they’re judging people they know nothing about who they’ve just seen in the street, who could easily be mums like her. Fighting demons and trying to stay sane... | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' People aren't judging mum's like you No, they’re judging people they know nothing about who they’ve just seen in the street, who could easily be mums like her. Fighting demons and trying to stay sane... " Isn't that what a lot of people do about all sorts of things. | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' People aren't judging mum's like you No, they’re judging people they know nothing about who they’ve just seen in the street, who could easily be mums like her. Fighting demons and trying to stay sane... Isn't that what a lot of people do about all sorts of things. " Yes, it seems so. | |||
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"Very judgemental, yous know nothing about ppls personal life. Yous wouldn't like them prying into what life you may or may not have. " And when children's lives are at risk, no one should pry? | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' People aren't judging mum's like you No, they’re judging people they know nothing about who they’ve just seen in the street, who could easily be mums like her. Fighting demons and trying to stay sane... Isn't that what a lot of people do about all sorts of things. Yes, it seems so. " The point is people make judgements all the time, we all do and I just don't think this is any different. | |||
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"I'm a mum and I use my phone when out with my kid. I also spend a lot of time focused on him. People can judge me based on a minute snapshot if they wish. I suffered badly from postnatal depression. My phone was my lifeline. I was often talking to someone to avoid having a panic attack, or reading about coping mechanisms. Other times I was talking to friends to stop me losing what little sanity I had left. It's so easy to judge people and make snap judgements. Reminds me of that saying 'you don't know what demons people are fighting. Be kind always' People aren't judging mum's like you No, they’re judging people they know nothing about who they’ve just seen in the street, who could easily be mums like her. Fighting demons and trying to stay sane... " Well that's not me | |||
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"Some of the people on this thread saying people are to judgy would be the first to judge a parant who was on their phone when their child gets run over. " , Exactly | |||
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"Some of the people on this thread saying people are to judgy would be the first to judge a parant who was on their phone when their child gets run over. , Exactly" As with the impaired speech development example above, this is a very extreme example that is clearly problematic parenting. There are shades of grey in between the extreme of ‘you must never touch your phone when your child is present’ and being so consumed with your phone to the extent your child ends up under a car. On this thread it feels as though anyone who touches their phones in their child’s presence is being judged. They aren’t all neglectful awful parents, is my point. | |||
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