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"I think a lot of people need to learn to think before they speak when it comes to comments or questions around whether or why people have children or not. As a woman in my late 20s, myself and my friends get a lot of questions about it and for many it can be a very painful subject for a number of reasons. It's not just limited to women who don't have children. I have a friend who I really wish people would stop asking her if she was having more." My girlfriend gets it all the time. Pisses her right off. | |||
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"I had it said to me often. Yep, years of miscarriages, agony, and heartbreak. But ain’t I lucky. Now that I have a kid, it’s ‘bet you wish you didn’t have him!’ Erm " Jesus christ, people are just atrocious | |||
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"As a mum to 3 grown up intelligent and beautiful daughters, I particularly hate people saying "Do you wish you'd had a boy" No, not really twat face " Yeah I get that too | |||
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"Does anyone think of what could potentially lie behind for the recipient of this seemingly fairly innocent comment? Reason I ask is I’m dealing with something in my professional life and after scrutiny and being on the end of this comment myself it’s not as innocuous as it seems to some people. Just a ramble " Not here to make kids or have them if that's what you mean OP | |||
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"It's a thoughtless remark. You have no idea if someone's been trying for years to have a baby, or suffers infertility, or has had a miscarriage, stillbirth, etc. I think people should keep their opinions of other people's childlessness to themselves. Same as comments like "when are you going to have another?", "are you going to try for a girl now you've got 3 boys?", etc with people who already have kids. " I agree with this. Some folk are just insensitive bellends. | |||
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"Does anyone think of what could potentially lie behind for the recipient of this seemingly fairly innocent comment? Reason I ask is I’m dealing with something in my professional life and after scrutiny and being on the end of this comment myself it’s not as innocuous as it seems to some people. Just a ramble Not here to make kids or have them if that's what you mean OP" Not what I mean. But understand I wasn’t really clear. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy " I'm so sorry to hear that. I would consider punching them in the face a perfectly reasonable reaction. Surely in this day and age people are more aware of these heartbreaking issues. Ignorance isn't always an excuse for such extreme insensitivity in my opinion. | |||
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"I have no desire to have kids and never have had that maternal urge. That's nobody else's business though. As it happens it would be incredibly difficult for me to conceive even if I did want to, and I probably wouldn't be able to carry to term. Once again, that's nobody else's business. I was pregnant in my 20s but lost the baby before I realised it, as the father was abusive and beat me to the point where I miscarried. Nobody else's business. My miscarriage was incomplete and I ended up going into hospital for a D&C and then developed Asherman syndrome. Nobody else's business. So sure, if someone wants to question me on my childless state I'm quite happy to discuss in great detail. Most of the time I brush it aside with the fact I've never wanted kids. For the terminally tactless, the incurably nosy, I will give chapter and verse, and I will guarantee they will regret their insistence on an explanation more than I regret the necessity of telling them." What a strong lady you must be to have been through so much and still have the strength to teach these people a lesson in sensitivity. Big respect to you for being so open about these things. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy I'm so sorry to hear that. I would consider punching them in the face a perfectly reasonable reaction. Surely in this day and age people are more aware of these heartbreaking issues. Ignorance isn't always an excuse for such extreme insensitivity in my opinion." I agree. Sometimes a little thought goes a very long way. Making any sort of comment on a person's situation can be deeply insensitive. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy " While I don't have kids, nor do I really plan on having any, I know full well what it means for people to want kids and go through similar things as yourself. My mum had 2 miscarriages before me. Even during her pregnancy with me she thought she had miscarried, even the doctors thought so. But there I was (turns out I'm a chimaera twin). My brother and his fiancé had a stillbirth. Friends of mine struggled to conceive for a good number of years. I have seen what such "minor" comments can do to people going through such things and while some will say don't be so sensitive, it most definitely is not as simple as that. People take for granted too much without thinking outside of a narrow view, and put too much of their own opinion out in to the world when it is not needed or wanted. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy While I don't have kids, nor do I really plan on having any, I know full well what it means for people to want kids and go through similar things as yourself. My mum had 2 miscarriages before me. Even during her pregnancy with me she thought she had miscarried, even the doctors thought so. But there I was (turns out I'm a chimaera twin). My brother and his fiancé had a stillbirth. Friends of mine struggled to conceive for a good number of years. I have seen what such "minor" comments can do to people going through such things and while some will say don't be so sensitive, it most definitely is not as simple as that. People take for granted too much without thinking outside of a narrow view, and put too much of their own opinion out in to the world when it is not needed or wanted." | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy I'm so sorry to hear that. I would consider punching them in the face a perfectly reasonable reaction. Surely in this day and age people are more aware of these heartbreaking issues. Ignorance isn't always an excuse for such extreme insensitivity in my opinion." Thanks Lacey. Sometimes it just washes over me and I just ignore it but other times the ignorance gets right under my skin. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy While I don't have kids, nor do I really plan on having any, I know full well what it means for people to want kids and go through similar things as yourself. My mum had 2 miscarriages before me. Even during her pregnancy with me she thought she had miscarried, even the doctors thought so. But there I was (turns out I'm a chimaera twin). My brother and his fiancé had a stillbirth. Friends of mine struggled to conceive for a good number of years. I have seen what such "minor" comments can do to people going through such things and while some will say don't be so sensitive, it most definitely is not as simple as that. People take for granted too much without thinking outside of a narrow view, and put too much of their own opinion out in to the world when it is not needed or wanted." | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy While I don't have kids, nor do I really plan on having any, I know full well what it means for people to want kids and go through similar things as yourself. My mum had 2 miscarriages before me. Even during her pregnancy with me she thought she had miscarried, even the doctors thought so. But there I was (turns out I'm a chimaera twin). My brother and his fiancé had a stillbirth. Friends of mine struggled to conceive for a good number of years. I have seen what such "minor" comments can do to people going through such things and while some will say don't be so sensitive, it most definitely is not as simple as that. People take for granted too much without thinking outside of a narrow view, and put too much of their own opinion out in to the world when it is not needed or wanted." It's the 'dont be so sensitive' comments that push my buttons | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x " My son had a disability and after he passed I was told by a family member that 'he was better off'. I never spoke to her again. | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x My son had a disability and after he passed I was told by a family member that 'he was better off'. I never spoke to her again." Wow. What an insensitive and totally thoughtless thing to say!! I'm not surprised you didn't speak to her again. x | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x My son had a disability and after he passed I was told by a family member that 'he was better off'. I never spoke to her again." Family can be the worst, I’m sorry you had to hear that x | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x " People disgust me. My lack of children apparently makes me an unnatural subhuman monster ... At least I had the manners to bite my tongue rather than respond (every time it's happened). | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x My son had a disability and after he passed I was told by a family member that 'he was better off'. I never spoke to her again." Not much shocks me but that statement does. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy I'm so sorry to hear that. I would consider punching them in the face a perfectly reasonable reaction. Surely in this day and age people are more aware of these heartbreaking issues. Ignorance isn't always an excuse for such extreme insensitivity in my opinion. Thanks Lacey. Sometimes it just washes over me and I just ignore it but other times the ignorance gets right under my skin. " Of course it does, you're human. Big hugs! And in response to what you said to Kietonel, I've personally never understood why the responsibility is on the person who has experienced so much pain to bury their feelings when the alternative of other people taking a second to think before they speak is surely much easier. Also people attempting to not be sensitive to it only means people continue to say the same things and hurt more people. Personally I don't think that the discomfort someone may feel knowing they have deeply upset someone when they may not have intended to trumps the pain of the person they have hurt and maybe that experience might lead them to have more thought in the future. | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x " I have no words. What is wrong with people!? | |||
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"It’s an off the cuff comment that hurts a lot of people. No one knows why someone hasn’t had children, or indeed a child is no longer around. People need to learn to think before they speak, as so many reasons. Due to medical reasons I had my son late in life and got these comments from my early 20s. He is my little miracle and something I thought I’d never experience. Now I get ‘I bet you wish you didn’t have him, imagine what you could be doing’....... really !!! " thats awful!!! what a thing to say | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x People disgust me. My lack of children apparently makes me an unnatural subhuman monster ... At least I had the manners to bite my tongue rather than respond (every time it's happened). " I never feel like there's anything I can say that's helpful but I really hate that you feel like that I'm sorry people can't be kinder xx | |||
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"What a strong lady you must be to have been through so much and still have the strength to teach these people a lesson in sensitivity. Big respect to you for being so open about these things." Thankyou. Like most of the women who have responded, I'd prefer not to be questioned about it but sometimes I am. If someone is genuinely just making conversation then it stops at "I've never wanted them", it's only if they make things awkward that I'll put them on the spot. It doesn't matter what you do as a woman you're going to be judged for it. I'd just rather people let others live their lives without feeling the need to tell them they're doing it wrong. My life, my choices, my situation. I'll deal with it my own way, no matter what interference or judgement I get from people who have no idea of the truth. | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x My son had a disability and after he passed I was told by a family member that 'he was better off'. I never spoke to her again. Wow. What an insensitive and totally thoughtless thing to say!! I'm not surprised you didn't speak to her again. x" I gave her a very public mouthful and I'm glad I did. Family or not, you never know what someone has or is going through. | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy " ill hold them down for you! | |||
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"As a woman you’re damned if you do, and damned if you don’t. People can be very insensitive. I have 2 sons with disabilities, my daughter is fine but, I’ve received comments that say aren’t you glad you’ve got one child that’s normal x My son had a disability and after he passed I was told by a family member that 'he was better off'. I never spoke to her again." I'd have really had to restrain myself from Punching her lights out.... I've got 2 boys, we suffered for years with miscarriages etc and the 2nd one is my little miracle boy.... I'm Grateful for what I have and wouldn't ever ask anyone about whether they feel they're missing out or other such stupidness | |||
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"I haven't been lucky enough to have kids unfortunately. I've had loads of miscarriages, a couple of which nearly killed me. So when people make these types of comments I just want to punch them in the face. Hmmm, maybe I need some more therapy ill hold them down for you! " | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens " Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. | |||
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"As a mum to 3 grown up intelligent and beautiful daughters, I particularly hate people saying "Do you wish you'd had a boy" No, not really twat face " Ha ha totally understand that - I have x4 beautiful boys and get “trying for a girl were we”, errr no fuck face just children | |||
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"As a mum to 3 grown up intelligent and beautiful daughters, I particularly hate people saying "Do you wish you'd had a boy" No, not really twat face Ha ha totally understand that - I have x4 beautiful boys and get “trying for a girl were we”, errr no fuck face just children " | |||
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"Id love kids. " I was in the position where I was going to try which took a lot of soul searching as I never thought I could be a good dad. It was then snatched away. So whilst people in the office comment on my lifestyle sometimes the jibes can be too much as I dearly wanted it. I know they probably mean nothing by it but wish people would think more. | |||
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"It's a thoughtless remark. You have no idea if someone's been trying for years to have a baby, or suffers infertility, or has had a miscarriage, stillbirth, etc. I think people should keep their opinions of other people's childlessness to themselves. Same as comments like "when are you going to have another?", "are you going to try for a girl now you've got 3 boys?", etc with people who already have kids. " Exactly this! The sympathetic sidewards head tilt followed by 'oh but I bet the boys would love a little sister to dote on and protect' Sure, maybe, but they'll never get to find out! | |||
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"Thanks to my kids I got to play with Lego and action men all over again " I would love an excuse to play with a scalextric | |||
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"Thanks to my kids I got to play with Lego and action men all over again I would love an excuse to play with a scalextric " Do you need one? | |||
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"I tend to get questions like 'don't you wish you had one of each?', 'but don't you think you're depriving her by not giving her siblings?' No I bloody well don't, I had one child and that was my choice, people need to learn to keep some opinions to themselves. " Well said. I have just the one as well and don’t want anymore! | |||
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"I tend to get questions like 'don't you wish you had one of each?', 'but don't you think you're depriving her by not giving her siblings?' No I bloody well don't, I had one child and that was my choice, people need to learn to keep some opinions to themselves. " There's an Aesop's fable about all the mother animals boasting about how many young they have. Eventually someone asks the mother lion how many cubs she has. She replies "I've got one, but that one is a lion." | |||
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"Does anyone think of what could potentially lie behind for the recipient of this seemingly fairly innocent comment? Reason I ask is I’m dealing with something in my professional life and after scrutiny and being on the end of this comment myself it’s not as innocuous as it seems to some people. Just a ramble " Not lucky...was premeditated. | |||
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"Thanks to my kids I got to play with Lego and action men all over again I would love an excuse to play with a scalextric Do you need one? " Yes. Bit soul destroying racing yourself. | |||
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"Does anyone think of what could potentially lie behind for the recipient of this seemingly fairly innocent comment? Reason I ask is I’m dealing with something in my professional life and after scrutiny and being on the end of this comment myself it’s not as innocuous as it seems to some people. Just a ramble Not lucky...was premeditated." What was? | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. " Due to having cancer I can't have kids, so dogs suit me just fine. The show emotions, they communicate in their own way, they show more compassion than some humans. | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. " Equally, you can't punt your child out of a flap in the door when they're getting on your tits (well you can, but the bloody do-gooders like to whinge about it)....also, you don't seem to be allowed to put your child in a kennel for two weeks while you jet off to the caribbean, without people complaining | |||
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"How can not having children be lucky really.. " cos if you don't want any and have managed not to slip up, then you're lucky that you're not lumbered with a dependant you don't really want around | |||
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"How can not having children be lucky really.. cos if you don't want any and have managed not to slip up, then you're lucky that you're not lumbered with a dependant you don't really want around" true. Theres always that I guess. | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. Equally, you can't punt your child out of a flap in the door when they're getting on your tits (well you can, but the bloody do-gooders like to whinge about it)....also, you don't seem to be allowed to put your child in a kennel for two weeks while you jet off to the caribbean, without people complaining " Believe me, they do. My wife and I were Foster carers for about 20 years (well actually she still us). It's saddening the number of people that don't want the kids they have. Treating them poorly, neglecting them or abusing them. Especially when you read posts like those above. | |||
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"I think a lot of people need to learn to think before they speak when it comes to comments or questions around whether or why people have children or not. As a woman in my late 20s, myself and my friends get a lot of questions about it and for many it can be a very painful subject for a number of reasons. It's not just limited to women who don't have children. I have a friend who I really wish people would stop asking her if she was having more." Wait till you get into your 30's. Iv been under pressure for years, people get so opinionated about women who don't have children. | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. Due to having cancer I can't have kids, so dogs suit me just fine. The show emotions, they communicate in their own way, they show more compassion than some humans. " Dogs are amazing and owning a dog is on my list of things to do, once I know I'll be able to do it and not let one down. I'm glad yours bring you comfort. | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. Due to having cancer I can't have kids, so dogs suit me just fine. The show emotions, they communicate in their own way, they show more compassion than some humans. Dogs are amazing and owning a dog is on my list of things to do, once I know I'll be able to do it and not let one down. I'm glad yours bring you comfort. " I have three. They are expensive as they eat tons and get into scrapes that mean vet bills. They also cover my house in muddy prints so I have to chase them round with a mop. The oldest also barks at me 04:00 in the morning as he needs letting out as his bladder won’t hold. They also impact on my plans to go away all the time. But I wouldn’t swap them for the world. They helped me through some tough times and they are always pleased to see me. The thump thump of the tail on the floor when I got up in the night with PTSD kept me going. Love them. | |||
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"I think a lot of people need to learn to think before they speak when it comes to comments or questions around whether or why people have children or not. As a woman in my late 20s, myself and my friends get a lot of questions about it and for many it can be a very painful subject for a number of reasons. It's not just limited to women who don't have children. I have a friend who I really wish people would stop asking her if she was having more. Wait till you get into your 30's. Iv been under pressure for years, people get so opinionated about women who don't have children. " | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. Due to having cancer I can't have kids, so dogs suit me just fine. The show emotions, they communicate in their own way, they show more compassion than some humans. Dogs are amazing and owning a dog is on my list of things to do, once I know I'll be able to do it and not let one down. I'm glad yours bring you comfort. I have three. They are expensive as they eat tons and get into scrapes that mean vet bills. They also cover my house in muddy prints so I have to chase them round with a mop. The oldest also barks at me 04:00 in the morning as he needs letting out as his bladder won’t hold. They also impact on my plans to go away all the time. But I wouldn’t swap them for the world. They helped me through some tough times and they are always pleased to see me. The thump thump of the tail on the floor when I got up in the night with PTSD kept me going. Love them. " this brought a lump to my throat | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. Due to having cancer I can't have kids, so dogs suit me just fine. The show emotions, they communicate in their own way, they show more compassion than some humans. Dogs are amazing and owning a dog is on my list of things to do, once I know I'll be able to do it and not let one down. I'm glad yours bring you comfort. I have three. They are expensive as they eat tons and get into scrapes that mean vet bills. They also cover my house in muddy prints so I have to chase them round with a mop. The oldest also barks at me 04:00 in the morning as he needs letting out as his bladder won’t hold. They also impact on my plans to go away all the time. But I wouldn’t swap them for the world. They helped me through some tough times and they are always pleased to see me. The thump thump of the tail on the floor when I got up in the night with PTSD kept me going. Love them. " That's lovely | |||
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"Who needs kids, just get a dog. Far easier to look after, cheaper and most of them are more compassionate and loving than kids when they reach the teens Cos you can't look into your dog's eyes and see your own looking back at you. Your dog won't grow up to remind you of treasured family members you've lost. You won't see your dog using your gifts that you've passed on. And while your dog may be a credit to you he's not part of you. Due to having cancer I can't have kids, so dogs suit me just fine. The show emotions, they communicate in their own way, they show more compassion than some humans. Dogs are amazing and owning a dog is on my list of things to do, once I know I'll be able to do it and not let one down. I'm glad yours bring you comfort. I have three. They are expensive as they eat tons and get into scrapes that mean vet bills. They also cover my house in muddy prints so I have to chase them round with a mop. The oldest also barks at me 04:00 in the morning as he needs letting out as his bladder won’t hold. They also impact on my plans to go away all the time. But I wouldn’t swap them for the world. They helped me through some tough times and they are always pleased to see me. The thump thump of the tail on the floor when I got up in the night with PTSD kept me going. Love them. " My mums last border collie helped her through a violent divorce, the loss of her parents, me moving out of the house. Not to mention me going through radiotherapy, she never left myside when I was at home recovering from the operation, the treatment. Dogs have been known to save people mentally as well. | |||
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